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shar-vin (546hp) Or maybe the engine is starting to run in

facebox (420hp) Hey guys, has anyone ever installed the 3D Design diffuser on a non-M5? I assume it's the same fit as the M5 diffuser on the M-sport bumper - I wonder if anyone has tried that. I prefer this look to the Vorsteiner version - I think the lines are cleaner. Thoughts? It's here

01121995 (505hp) Or both!

killer09 (918hp) Quote: Originally posted by mryakanisachoad Or, both! I agree!

friends23 (599hp) Quote: Originally posted by flatoutstud This is probably wishful thinking, but I just put 2000 miles on my 535i 6MT and the car feels faster than when I first got it. Maybe it's the weather at 20 degrees... I noticed the same thing after 2000 miles, a big difference, much more responsive, and also the revs allowed it to go all the way to the red line, which he never did at full throttle before ± 2000 miles

dude22 (801hp) [QUOTE=flatoutstud,13447362]This is probably wishful thinking, but I just put 2000 miles on my 535i 6MT and the car seems faster than when I first bought it. Maybe it's the 20 degree temperature...[/QUOTE Did you respect the BMW station wagon until the end or not? I was just wondering if you did something a little different.

audrey123 (551hp) [QUOTE=SUMO12] Quote: Posted by flatoutstud This is probably wishful thinking, but I just put 2000 miles on my 535i 6MT and the car seems faster than when I first got it. Maybe it's the 20 degree temperature...[/QUOTE Did you respect the BMW station wagon until the end or not? I was just wondering if you did something a little different. I don't know what BMW's recommended break-in is, so I can't really comment. What I can say is that I haven't really driven the car yet. The car suddenly felt a lot more responsive this week.

berlinbruns (853hp) This is probably wishful thinking, but I just put 2000 miles on my 535i 6MT and the car seems faster than when I first bought it. Maybe it's 20 degree weather...

simorodok62 (479hp) Or maybe the engine is starting to run in

iloveanime (385hp) Or both!

1eminem (251hp) Quote: Originally posted by mryakanisachoad Or, both! I agree!

23051979 (418hp) Quote: Originally posted by flatoutstud This is probably wishful thinking, but I just put 2000 miles on my 535i 6MT and the car feels faster than when I first got it. Maybe it's the weather at 20 degrees... I noticed the same thing after 2000 miles, a big difference, much more responsive, and also the revs allowed it to go all the way to the red line, which he never did at full throttle before ± 2000 miles

///M5Canuck (182hp) [QUOTE=flatoutstud,13447362]This is probably wishful thinking, but I just put 2000 miles on my 535i 6MT and the car seems faster than when I first bought it. Maybe it's the 20 degree temperature...[/QUOTE Did you respect the BMW station wagon until the end or not? I was just wondering if you did something a little different.

froggy101 (395hp) [QUOTE=SUMO12] Quote: Posted by flatoutstud This is probably wishful thinking, but I just put 2000 miles on my 535i 6MT and the car seems faster than when I first got it. Maybe it's the 20 degree temperature...[/QUOTE Did you respect the BMW station wagon until the end or not? I was just wondering if you did something a little different. I don't know what BMW's recommended break-in is, so I can't really comment. What I can say is that I haven't really driven the car yet. The car suddenly felt a lot more responsive this week.

12121994 (543hp) How many gallons do our windshield washer fluid tanks hold? Should I put more than a gallon at a time? I don't use more fluid than in my other cars, but my car is greedy! I wish there was a way to control whether or not it's wasted on the headlights...

alex1977 (401hp) When the light comes on, I throw out a gallon and she takes it. I don't know how much beyond that it will take. Looking at the manual (hard copy), it's definitely not very technical - no fluid capabilities, etc...

cb (681hp) Same (when the light comes on it takes a whole gallon), which is why I wanted to know the capacity. I checked the manual and found it needed 1.325 gallons. THANKS!

gooberwolf (496hp) Acqui! I guess I didn't look hard enough. Cheers

cute21 (806hp) I always wondered what OEM windshield washer fluid was. It seems to have a higher alcohol content than what you buy in stores...which seems to make it evaporate faster and leave fewer stains/streaks. What does everyone use in their car and how do you like it?

danarcher (753hp) Quote: Originally posted by vdubturbo I always wondered what OEM windshield washer fluid was. It seems to have a higher alcohol content than what you buy in stores...which seems to make it evaporate faster and leave fewer stains/streaks. What does everyone use in their car and what do you like? Don't use anything in particular, whatever is at the gas station, an absurd $4.00 for 1 gallon now (of what is essentially water)! Noticed a difference after the dealer topped you off (?), I never realized they used something different... Good to know!

aabbcc123 (577hp) Quote: Originally posted by vdubturbo I always wondered what OEM windshield washer fluid was. It seems to have a higher alcohol content than what you buy in stores...which seems to make it evaporate faster and leave fewer stains/streaks. What does everyone use in their car and what do you like? Yes, I always liked the factory filling of BMWs. It's clear and smells great as you can smell it through the cabin. The usual stuff is blue and stains the car until you wash it. I think at least here in the US you can only buy the blue liquid, as some people may mistake the clear liquid for water and drink it. Therefore, only the factory filling is clear. I'm trying to make my factory fill last as long as possible...I just had over a year on the car and the dim light came on for the first time. It's time to get the blue shit

05091995 (153hp) Last July, when I was picking up my car, my salesman gave me two pitchers of BMW all-weather windshield cleaner rated for -45°C. It's purple. It contains methyl alcohol. This seems to work very well. My favorite is Rain-X windshield washer fluid, de-icer, good down to -40°C. It also contains methyl alcohol, is yellow in color, and contains a "bittering" agent so no one will drink it. It adds a water repellent that significantly improves the wiper's ability to remove water. It will not frost on your windshield down to -40°C. It costs more than the blue stuff and less than the BMW brand above, but I use less of it and can definitely see better. I get mine on sale or at Costco.

pillows (884hp) Quote: Originally posted by IaHawk I spent less than $75,000 you were looking at for a 2013 550i xdrive carbon black M sport with Dinan S2 chip, suspension and exhaust. The total package, including the Dinan mods, came to less than $72,000. I was trying to get close to an all-wheel drive M5 - mine doesn't have a dual-clutch transmission and has just a little less power than the M5 - but the all-wheel drive makes up for that. I had looked at an RS5 or S7 but opted for the 550i - no regrets. This awesome car is so much better than a VW Audi. My next car is the 550i and I plan on doing the same mods.

ardaturan (253hp) I buy the washer fluid concentrate from the dealership and mix it with distilled water. The price is 2.50 per jug. Does not stain paint or windshield.

10131013 (76hp) Quote: Originally posted by IaHawk I spent less than $75,000 you were looking at for a 2013 550i xdrive carbon black M sport with Dinan S2 chip, suspension and exhaust. The total package, including the Dinan mods, came to less than $72,000. I was trying to get close to an all-wheel drive M5 - mine doesn't have a dual-clutch transmission and has just a little less power than the M5 - but the all-wheel drive makes up for that. I had looked at an RS5 or S7 but opted for the 550i - no regrets. This awesome car is so much better than a VW Audi. My next car is the 550i and I plan on doing the same mods.

GermanKiwi (350hp) Do our windshield washer fluid reservoirs heat the fluid, and if not, why? GM vehicles are advertised as having the same!

29051990 (783hp) Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta Yes, I always liked the factory fill on BMWs. It's clear and smells great as you can smell it through the cabin. The usual stuff is blue and stains the car until you wash it. I think at least here in the US you can only buy the blue liquid, as some people may mistake the clear liquid for water and drink it. Therefore, only the factory filling is clear. I'm trying to make my factory fill last as long as possible...I just had over a year on the car and the dim light came on for the first time. Time to get the blue shit. You can always make your own windshield washer fluid. Save money too! Funny how windshield washer fluid went from $1 to $4 almost overnight. But the government keeps telling me there is no inflation, so I believe them. Why would they lie?

dima1989 (47hp) Quote: Originally posted by dbs600 Do our windshield washer fluid reservoirs heat the fluid, and if not, why? GM vehicles are advertised as having the same thing! My Series 1 fluid freezes all the time. Same for an old series 3 :-)

101987 (515hp) Quote: Originally posted by dbs600 Do our windshield washer fluid reservoirs heat the fluid, and if not, why? No need. Quote: Originally posted by mryakanisachoad My series 1 fluid freezes all the time. Same for an old 3 series :-) Decent windshield washer fluid is suitable for -25 and -40 degrees Fahrenheit. You wouldn't want to heat it all night if you live in a cold climate. The battery would die and the car would not start.

10011976 (645hp) A good windshield washer antifreeze should never freeze in the reservoir. If so, you need to mix it with water. It should be used at full power unless otherwise noted. Poor quality antifreeze can freeze on a cold windshield but never in the reservoir.

baseball (985hp) The reason I would like the tank, not just the nozzles, to be heated is not due to the risk of the liquid in the tank freezing (if someone puts water in their tank it will be bad all around, like tanks would). then crack!), but this way the liquid penetrates the snow/ice on the windshield better! Just having heated nozzles can only do so much and just ensure that the nozzles are clear....

liverpool3 (901hp) A good quality windshield washer fluid is necessary not only to help clean a dirty windshield and prevent icing in freezing weather, but also to reduce the risk of mold or fungus growing in the reservoir and making a mess. the pump filters. If you decide to mix your own, I recommend using distilled water to reduce the possibility that chemicals found in municipal water supplies will also add their own gunk to the system. A few dollars of cash should last the average driver for several months. I too like the smell of BMW fluid and my dealer tops off my car at every service. It also cleans very well and handles sub-freezing temperatures. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

sirrah (545hp) How many gallons do our windshield washer fluid tanks hold? Should I put more than a gallon at a time? I don't use more fluid than in my other cars, but my car is greedy! I wish there was a way to control whether or not it's wasted on the headlights...

120186 (630hp) When the light comes on, I throw out a gallon and she takes it. I don't know how much it will take beyond that. Looking at the manual (hard copy), it's definitely not very technical - no fluid capabilities, etc...

maximus2 (499hp) Same (when the light comes on it takes a whole gallon), which is why I wanted to know the capacity. I checked the manual and found it needed 1.325 gallons. THANKS!

viggyv (453hp) Acqui! I guess I didn't look hard enough. Cheers

lennart (606hp) I always wondered what OEM windshield washer fluid was. It seems to have a higher alcohol content than what you buy in stores...which seems to make it evaporate faster and leave fewer stains/streaks. What does everyone use in their car and how do you like it?

knockers (6hp) Quote: Originally posted by vdubturbo I always wondered what OEM windshield washer fluid was. It seems to have a higher alcohol content than what you buy in stores...which seems to make it evaporate faster and leave fewer stains/streaks. What does everyone use in their car and what do you like? Don't use anything in particular, whatever is at the gas station, an absurd $4.00 for 1 gallon now (of what is essentially water)! Noticed a difference after the dealer topped you off (?), I never realized they used something different... Good to know!

cessna172 (73hp) Quote: Originally posted by vdubturbo I always wondered what OEM windshield washer fluid was. It seems to have a higher alcohol content than what you buy in stores...which seems to make it evaporate faster and leave fewer stains/streaks. What does everyone use in their car and what do you like? Yes, I always liked the factory filling of BMWs. It's clear and smells great as you can smell it through the cabin. The usual stuff is blue and stains the car until you wash it. I think at least here in the US you can only buy the blue liquid, as some people may mistake the clear liquid for water and drink it. Therefore, only the factory filling is clear. I'm trying to make my factory fill last as long as possible...I just had over a year on the car and the dim light came on for the first time. It's time to get the blue shit

vfrfhjd (910hp) Last July, when I was picking up my car, my salesman gave me two pitchers of BMW all-weather windshield cleaner rated for -45°C. It's purple. It contains methyl alcohol. This seems to work very well. My favorite is Rain-X windshield washer fluid, de-icer, good down to -40°C. It also contains methyl alcohol, is yellow in color, and contains a "bittering" agent so no one will drink it. It adds a water repellent that significantly improves the wiper's ability to remove water. It will not frost on your windshield down to -40°C. It costs more than the blue stuff and less than the BMW brand above, but I use less of it and can definitely see better. I get mine on sale or at Costco.

ilovedogs2 (770hp) I buy the washer fluid concentrate from the dealership and mix it with distilled water. The price is 2.50 per jug. Does not stain paint or windshield.

misread (953hp) Do our windshield washer fluid reservoirs heat the fluid, and if not, why? GM vehicles are advertised as having the same!

yankee7 (356hp) Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta Yes, I always liked the factory fill on BMWs. It's clear and smells great as you can smell it through the cabin. The usual stuff is blue and stains the car until you wash it. I think at least here in the US you can only buy the blue liquid, as some people may mistake the clear liquid for water and drink it. Therefore, only the factory filling is clear. I'm trying to make my factory fill last as long as possible...I just had over a year on the car and the dim light came on for the first time. Time to get the blue shit. You can always make your own windshield washer fluid. Save money too! Funny how windshield washer fluid went from $1 to $4 almost overnight. But the government keeps telling me there is no inflation, so I believe them. Why would they lie?

rrrr (525hp) Quote: Originally posted by dbs600 Do our windshield washer fluid reservoirs heat the fluid, and if not, why? GM vehicles are advertised as having the same thing! My Series 1 fluid freezes all the time. Same for an old series 3 :-)

mamaia (453hp) Quote: Originally posted by dbs600 Do our windshield washer fluid reservoirs heat the fluid, and if not, why? No need. Quote: Originally posted by mryakanisachoad My series 1 fluid freezes all the time. Same for an old 3 series :-) Decent windshield washer fluid is suitable for -25 and -40 degrees Fahrenheit. You wouldn't want to heat it all night if you live in a cold climate. The battery would die and the car would not start.

12091983 (137hp) A good windshield washer antifreeze should never freeze in the reservoir. If so, you need to mix it with water. It should be used at full power unless otherwise noted. Poor quality antifreeze can freeze on a cold windshield but never in the reservoir.

mike89 (259hp) The reason I would like the tank, not just the nozzles, to be heated is not due to the risk of the liquid in the tank freezing (if someone puts water in their tank it will be bad all around, like tanks would). then crack!), but this way the liquid penetrates the snow/ice on the windshield better! Just having heated nozzles can only do so much and just ensure the nozzles are clear....

11F10 (799hp) A good quality windshield washer fluid is necessary not only to help clean a dirty windshield and prevent icing in freezing weather, but also to reduce the risk of mold or fungus growing in the reservoir and making a mess. the pump filters. If you decide to mix your own, I recommend using distilled water to reduce the possibility that chemicals found in municipal water supplies will also add their own gunk to the system. A few dollars of cash should last the average driver for several months. I too like the smell of BMW fluid and my dealer tops off my car at every service. It also cleans very well and handles sub-freezing temperatures. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

mithrandir (96hp) Hello everyone, I have just ordered my new Carbon Black 535d M-Sport with the following specifications: • The M Sport package includes: BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line BMW Individual anthracite roof lining Hexagon M aluminum interior trim Aerodynamic package Suspension M sport M leather steering wheel Sports seats for driver and front passenger M 19 door sills M light alloy wheels Double-spoke 351 M • Sports automatic transmission • Adaptive transmission • Steering integrated active • Alarm system • Comfort access • Climate comfort windshield • Rear camera • Sunroof • Anti-dazzle mirrors • Active seat ventilation • Comfort seats (includes lumbar support and electric seat adjustment) • Heated driver's seats and passenger • High beam assist • Lane departure warning • Lane departure warning • Surround view • DAB+ digital tuner • Air conditioning 4-Z0NE • Automatic tailgate • Black grille • Additional 12V sockets • M rear spoiler I am also considering adding: • Voice control • Night vision • Parking assistant • HiFi speaker system (this is the next step compared to the standard system but it is NOT the top of the line professional HiFi System) I would certainly appreciate any thoughts from the community on the usefulness of adding the extra options (I still have about a week left to play with the final configuration of my order).

tendresse (844hp) Looks good, but you forgot Navi Pro. and head-up display (HUD). Navigation in conjunction with the incredible HUD. I will also upgrade to the new digital dashboard. And on a 535d, you would have to switch to hifi, hifi pro. I've had a lot of BMWs, but the 535d Xdrive I have now is the ultimate BMW with an incredible engine and traction. Was on the German autobahn in summer and had a speed of 260 km/h and it didn't stop. You made a good choice. Is there anything you're wondering. just ask. Well done. http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648543

sepatu (931hp) Quote: Originally posted by bimmer man looks good, but you forgot navi pro. and head-up display (HUD). Navigation in conjunction with the incredible HUD. I will also upgrade to the new digital dashboard. And on a 535d, you would have to switch to hifi, hifi pro. I've had a lot of BMWs, but the 535d Xdrive I have now is the ultimate BMW with an incredible engine and traction. Was on the German autobahn in summer and had a speed of 260 km/h and it didn't stop there. You made a good choice. Is there anything you're wondering. just ask. Well done. http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648543 Navi Pro and HUD are standard on the 535 in Australia, should have mentioned them I suppose. The digital instrument cluster is also standard here, but I'm strongly considering the stereo upgrade. Thank you for your thoughts. By the way, your car looks awesome! Very nice walk.

Voting (130hp) Quote: Originally posted by bmwombat Hi everyone, I have just ordered my new 535d M-Sport carbon black with the following specifications: • The M Sport package includes: BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line BMW Individual anthracite headliner Hexagon M aluminum interior trim Aerodynamic package M sports suspension M leather steering wheel Sports seats for driver and front passenger M door sills 19 M light alloy wheels with 351 M double spokes • Sports automatic transmission • Adaptive transmission • Integrated active steering • Alarm System • Comfort access • Climate comfort windshield • Rear camera • Sunroof • Anti-dazzle mirrors • Active seat ventilation • Comfort seats (includes lumbar support and electric seat adjustment) • Heated driver and passenger seats • Passenger assistance high beam • Lane departure warning • Lane change Caution • Surround View • DAB+ digital tuner • 4-Z0NE air conditioning • Automatic tailgate • Black grille • Additional 12V sockets • Rear spoiler M I am also considering adding: • Voice Control • Night Vision • Parking Assistant • HiFi Speaker System (this is the next step up from the standard system but is NOT the high-end professional HiFi system). I would definitely appreciate any thoughts from the community on whether it would be useful to add additional options (I still have about a week to go). to play with the final configuration of my command). Great spec! Congratulations! There is some conflicting information though... Judging by your post you have sports seats in the M package and comfort seats added below. I'd say you chose the latter, but perhaps you could clarify that one? Regarding additional options, I would only be interested in voice control and the HiFi Professional audio system (which is no longer the high-end system, by the way).).

party69 (173hp) Yes, comfort seats replace sports seats. WRT voice command, do you know if you can speak web addresses to type them using it? BTW, does anyone have an opinion on the usefulness of the optional Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)? I think it would be very useful to be able to monitor the pressure in the run flat tires (which are the only tires that can be found here on 5ers in Australia) to ensure they stay at the correct pressure - I learned my lesson with my first set of RFTs 2 cars ago, when they wore out in less than 10,000 Klm because I hadn't checked that they were kept at the correct pressure (told me cost AU$2,600 to replace 4 tires - dealer wanted A$3,200 for the set!!!!).

220781 (285hp) Use your money for a better stereo and ditch the night vision. In my opinion, night vision is not worth the price, and my opinion is that the person recognition system is full of flaws!

250574 (419hp) Quote: Originally posted by ajohansen Use your money for a better stereo and ditch the night vision. In my opinion, night vision is not worth the price, and my opinion is that the person recognition system is full of flaws! Yes... I also tend towards this point of view. There are a few other threads on this forum that aren't very complimentary of the Night Vision option... thanks.

091279 (154hp) Hello everyone, I have now made my final decisions on the final specs I want for my new Carbon Black 535d M-Sport: The standard specs are (as I know this differs from country to country): Auto start/stop function Brake energy regeneration Driving experience control incl. ECO PRO mode Electric power steering with Servotronic Active head restraints, driver and front passenger front airbags with occupant detection Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) incl. Dynamic Traction Control (DTC), Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), CBC and Brake Assist Head airbags for front and rear Side airbags for front passenger Cruise control with braking function Head-up display Parking Distance Control (PDC) - front and rear Bi-Xenon Headlights with headlight washers Electrically adjustable aspherical exterior mirrors with active heating Fog lights Rain sensor and automatic high beam control Ambient lighting Automatic air conditioning with regulation 2 zones (replaced by 4-zone climate control) Bluetooth preparation Control screen with 10.2" color display Stereo speaker system (replaced by HiFi speaker system with 205 W amplifier, etc.) Interior rearview mirror with function automatic anti-dazzle Internet functionality Leather multifunction steering wheel (replaced by an M steering wheel) Navigation system BMW Professional radio with CD Pass-through charging system USB audio interface Dakota leather upholstery Added options are: M Sport package includes: BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line BMW Individual headliner anthracite Aluminum interior trim Hexagon M Aerodynamic package M sports suspension M leather steering wheel Sports seats for driver and front passenger (replaced by comfort seats) M door sills Light alloy wheels 19 M Double-spoke 351 M sports automatic transmission Adaptive drive Integrated active steering Alarm system Comfort access Air conditioning Comfort windshield Rear camera Sunroof Anti-dazzle mirrors Active seat ventilation Comfort seats (includes lumbar support and electrical adjustment seat) Heated seat Driver and passenger high beam assist Lane departure waming Lane departure warning Surround View DAB+ 4-Z0NE digital tuner Air conditioning Automatic tailgate Black front grille (dealer installed) Rear spoiler M Now added: Voice Control Parking Assistant HiFi speaker system Tinted windows (legal on darkest street - dealer installed) Looks like late December delivery.

natanael (561hp) don't you have DAB Radio in Australia. It is recommended in Europe.

15091992 (501hp) Quote: Originally posted by bimmer man, don't you have DAB radio in Australia. It is recommended in Europe. Yes, I ordered the DAB+ Digital Tuner option. We only have it in the capitals but that's where I live anyway so it would be nice to have it.

syl (377hp) Quote: Cruise control with braking function Is it the one that follows the car in front? Otherwise, get this one...it's superb for heavy traffic and highway driving....

400703 (980hp) No, it's standard cruise control. I don't want the version you are referring to because we have this feature on our other car (Lexus IS250 Sports Luxury - it came standard) and after the first few times I used it on the highway I absolutely hated it and we didn't do it. I haven't used it in over 3 years + I don't drive during rush hour anyway. I hear what you're saying, but I guess it all comes down to personal preference anyway. Thanks for this thought'.

spinner1 (156hp) Quote: Originally posted by bmwombat No, it's standard cruise control. I don't want the version you are referring to because we have this feature on our other car (Lexus IS250 Sports Luxury - it came standard) and after the first few times I used it on the highway I absolutely hated it and we didn't do it. I haven't used it in over 3 years + I don't drive during rush hour anyway. I hear what you're saying, but I guess it all comes down to personal preference anyway. Thank you for this thought. Wasn't it good on the Lex? Because I also have it on my Land Cruiser (same manufacturer as Lexus) and I hate it there too, I think it's useless. But in my F10 I love it... it does the job extremely well, you can adjust it quite well from the steering wheel, it displays a lot of information on the HUD, etc.

robbie2 (854hp) Quote: Posted by tnikolov Wasn't he good on the Lex? Because I also have it on my Land Cruiser (same manufacturer as Lexus) and I hate it there too, I think it's useless. But in my F10, I love it... it does the job extremely well, you can adjust it pretty well from the steering wheel, it displays a lot of information on the HUD, etc. I certainly didn't like it on the Lexus. Plus, it's a 4,700 AUD (+ some tax) option here, so it's very hard for me to justify it given my previous experience with my Lexus..

bartelmus (142hp) Quote: Originally posted by bmwombat No, it's standard cruise control. I don't want the version you are referring to because we have this feature on our other car (Lexus IS250 Sports Luxury - it came standard) and after the first few times I used it on the highway I absolutely hated it and we didn't do it. I haven't used it in over 3 years + I don't drive during rush hour anyway. I hear what you're saying, but I guess it all comes down to personal preference anyway. Thank you for this thought. I completely agree with your preference. I tested the Stop & Go feature and decided to ditch it and just stick with the barebones braking feature. I hated the feeling that the car would accelerate/decelerate on its own rather than with direct input from the driver..

dominicana (127hp) Quote: Originally posted by rhinosaur I totally agree with your preference. I tested the Stop & Go feature and decided to ditch it and just stick with the barebones braking feature. I hated the feeling that the car would accelerate/decelerate on its own rather than under direct input from the driver. yes...this was the major problem I had with the same feature on my Lexus IS250 SL. I want to control braking/acceleration.

ashtray1 (748hp) Quote: Originally posted by bmwombat Hello everyone, I have now made my final decisions as to the final specs I want for my new Carbon Black 535d M-Sport: The standard specs are (as I know this differs from 'country to country): • Automatic start/Stop function • Regeneration of braking energy • Driving experience control incl. ECO PRO mode • Electric power steering with Servotronic • Active front head restraints • Driver and front passenger airbags with occupant detection • Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) incl. Dynamic Traction Control (DTC), Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), CBC and Brake Assist • Head airbags for front and rear • Side airbags for front passenger • Cruise control with braking function • Head-up display • Park Distance Control (PDC) - front and rear • Bi-xenon headlights with headlight washers • Aspherical exterior mirrors, electrically adjustable with active heating • Fog lights • Rain sensor and automatic high beam control • Ambient lighting • Automatic air conditioning with 2-zone control (replaced by 4-zone air conditioning) • Bluetooth preparation • Control screen with 10.2 color monitor • Radio system stereo speakers (replaced by HiFi speaker system with 205 W amplifier, etc.) • Interior rearview mirror with automatic dimming function • Internet functionality • Multifunction leather steering wheel (replaced by an M steering wheel) • Professional navigation system • BMW Professional radio with CD player • Direct charging system • USB audio interface • Dakota leather upholstery Added options are: • M Sport package includes: BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line BMW Individual headlining anthracite Aluminum interior trim Hexagon M Aerodynamic package M sports suspension M leather steering wheel Sports seats for driver and front passenger (replaced by comfort seats) Door sills M Light alloy wheels 19 M Double spokes 351 M • Sports automatic gearbox • Adaptive drive • Integrated active steering • Alarm system • Comfort access • Climate comfort windshield • Rear camera • Sunroof • Anti-dazzle mirrors • Active seat ventilation • Comfort seats (includes lumbar support and electric seat adjustment) • Heated driver and passenger seats • High beam assist • Lane departure warning • Lane departure warning • Surround view • DAB+ digital tuner • 4-Z0NE air conditioning • Automatic tailgate • Black front grille (dealer installed) • Rear spoiler M Now added: • Voice control • Parking assistant • HiFi speaker system • Tinted windows (darkest street legal - dealer installed) Looks like a late December delivery. I just missed the October build window - bugga! Delivery has now moved to the 3rd week in January 2013 - and good! However, this gives me time to add a few more options: • Tire pressure monitor • Music interface for smartphone I am also investigating whether or not I can swap the 351M rims for 312 (ferric gray) or 356..

lehman (870hp) Congratulations, an impressive spec! I think you made the right decision regarding adaptive cruise control and night vision. Both options are ridiculously expensive (like most BMW options: BTW). I would highly recommend the second best Pro HiFi system (Dirac 600W). It's well worth the extra money compared to the others. The 351M wheels look great but I've already had two accidents parking too close to the curb - a downside with the low profile tires and wheels 19

mclovin (294hp) Quote: Originally posted by Bimmernerd Congratulations, an impressive spec! I think you made the right decision regarding adaptive cruise control and night vision. Both options are ridiculously expensive (like most BMW options: BTW). I would highly recommend the second best Pro HiFi system (Dirac 600W). It's well worth the extra money compared to the others. The 351M wheels look great but I've already had two accidents parking too close to the curb - a downside with low profile tires and 19 wheels. I have already spent A$1300 to upgrade to the 205W system. Here in OZ the 600W system costs A$2900. and the high end B&O system costs A$13,000!!!! Do you really think it's worth it for me to pay an extra A$1,600 (on top of the A$1,300 I've already spent) for an in-car stereo? Actually, I'm interested in anyone's comments on this. Plus, I don't spend every day in the car because I work from home, so I don't have a daily commute or visiting clients to do..

clocks (80hp) I have HiFi Professional (i.e. the 600W system mentioned by Bimmernerd) and am extremely happy with it. I listen to heavy stuff (e.g. Tool) and this is the first system where I don't need to reduce the volume or bass to avoid distortion or vibration. The sound is crystal clear, very well balanced in the x, y, z dimensions and you have an equalization mode. 5 stars

130277 (664hp) Quote: Posted by rhinosaur I have HiFi Professional... 5 stars Glad to hear that. I ordered the same system for my F11 535i. Around 700 GBP in the UK. I considered the B&O (despite its very high cost) but ultimately decided against ordering it without a back-to-back comparison with the HiFi pro. Comparison demo not available - no dealer here appears to have a B&O equipped car. Well done, Richard.

15101990 (518hp) Honestly, the HiFi Professional beats the B/O by a long shot in a cost/benefit comparison. The first is already very good and costs less than a third of the price of the second. I would also add that I feel like the HiFi Professional system has received some recent improvements. When I tested a car in January this year (a 535d Touring built mid-2011, I believe), I could definitely feel that the sound was too spatially centered, to the point where I was doubting whether I should go there or No. In my car (MY 2013) it's not a problem at all.

jason21 (419hp) Hello everyone, I have just ordered my new Carbon Black 535d M-Sport with the following specifications: • The M Sport package includes: BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line BMW Individual anthracite roof lining Hexagon M aluminum interior trim Aerodynamic package Suspension M sport M leather steering wheel Sports seats for driver and front passenger M 19 door sills M light alloy wheels Double-spoke 351 M • Sports automatic transmission • Adaptive transmission • Integrated active steering • Alarm system • Comfort access • Bumper climate comfort breeze • Rear camera • Sunroof • Anti-dazzle mirrors • Active seat ventilation • Comfort seats (includes lumbar support and electric seat adjustment) • Heated driver and passenger seats • High beam assist • Exit warning lane • Lane change warning • Surround view • DAB+ digital tuner • 4-Z0NE air conditioning • Automatic tailgate • Black grille • Additional 12V sockets • Rear spoiler M I am also considering adding: • Voice control • Night vision • Assistant parking • HiFi speaker system (this is the next step up from the standard system but it is NOT the top of the line professional HiFi System) I would certainly appreciate any thoughts from the community on the usefulness of add the additional options (I still have about a week left to play with the final configuration of my order).

SILVIA (908hp) Looks good, but you forgot Navi Pro. and head-up display (HUD). Navigation in conjunction with the incredible HUD. I will also upgrade to the new digital dashboard. And on a 535d, you would have to switch to hifi, hifi pro. I've had a lot of BMWs, but the 535d Xdrive I have now is the ultimate BMW with an incredible engine and traction. Was on the German autobahn in summer and had a speed of 260 km/h and it didn't stop. You made a good choice. Is there anything you're wondering. just ask. Well done. http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648543

veneno (386hp) Quote: Posted by bimmer man looks good, but you forgot navi pro. and head-up display (HUD). Navigation in conjunction with the incredible HUD. I will also upgrade to the new digital dashboard. And on a 535d, you would have to switch to hifi, hifi pro. I've had a lot of BMWs, but the 535d Xdrive I have now is the ultimate BMW with an incredible engine and traction. Was on the German autobahn in summer and had a speed of 260 km/h and it didn't stop there. You made a good choice. Is there anything you're wondering. just ask. Well done. http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648543 Navi Pro and HUD are standard on the 535 in Australia, should have mentioned them I suppose. The digital instrument cluster is also standard here, but I'm strongly considering the stereo upgrade. Thank you for your thoughts. By the way, your car looks awesome! Very nice walk.

fuckyou6 (105hp) Quote: Originally posted by bmwombat Hi everyone, I have just ordered my new 535d M-Sport carbon black with the following specifications: • The M Sport package includes: BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line BMW Individual anthracite headliner Hexagon M aluminum interior trim Aerodynamic package M sports suspension M leather steering wheel Sports seats for driver and front passenger M door sills 19 M light alloy wheels with 351 M double spokes • Sports automatic transmission • Adaptive transmission • Integrated active steering • System alarm • Comfort access • Climate comfort windshield • Rear camera • Sunroof • Anti-dazzle mirrors • Active seat ventilation • Comfort seats (includes lumbar support and electric seat adjustment) • Heated driver and passenger seats • High beam assist • Lane departure warning • Lane departure warning • Surround view • DAB+ digital tuner • 4-Z0NE air conditioning • Automatic tailgate • Black grille • Additional 12V sockets • Rear spoiler M I am also considering add: • Voice control • Night vision • Parking assistant • HiFi speaker system (this is the next step up from the standard system but it is NOT the high end professional HiFi system) I would definitely appreciate any community's thoughts on the usefulness of adding additional options (I still have about a week to play with the final configuration of my command). Great spec! Congratulations! There is some conflicting information though... Judging by your post you have sports seats in the M package and comfort seats added below. I'd say you chose the latter, but perhaps you could clarify that one? Regarding additional options, I would only be interested in voice control and the HiFi Professional audio system (which is no longer the high-end system, by the way).).

cardigan (432hp) Yes, comfort seats replace sports seats. WRT voice command, do you know if you can speak web addresses to type them using it? BTW, does anyone have an opinion on the usefulness of the optional Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)? I think it would be very useful to be able to monitor the pressure in the run flat tires (which are the only tires that can be found here on 5ers in Australia) to ensure they stay at the correct pressure - I learned my lesson with my first set of RFTs 2 cars ago, when they wore out in less than 10,000 Klm because I hadn't checked that they were kept at the correct pressure (told me cost A$2,600 to replace 4 tires - dealer wanted A$3,200 for the set!!!!).

Markus (272hp) Use your money for a better stereo and ditch the night vision. In my opinion, night vision is not worth the price, and my opinion is that the person recognition system is full of flaws!

BEMR (808hp) Quote: Originally posted by ajohansen Use your money for a better stereo and ditch the night vision. In my opinion, night vision is not worth the price, and my opinion is that the person recognition system is full of flaws! Yes... I also tend towards this point of view. There are a few other threads on this forum that aren't very complimentary of the Night Vision option... thanks.

eminem21 (489hp) Hello everyone, I have now made my final decisions on the final specs I want for my new Carbon Black 535d M-Sport: The standard specs are (as I know this differs from country to country): Auto start/stop function Brake energy regeneration Driving experience control incl. ECO PRO mode Electric power steering with Servotronic Active head restraints, driver and front passenger front airbags with occupant detection Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) incl. Dynamic Traction Control (DTC), Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), CBC and Brake Assist Head airbags for front and rear Side airbags for front passenger Cruise control with braking function Head-up display Parking Distance Control (PDC) - front and rear Bi-Xenon Headlights with headlight washers Electrically adjustable aspherical exterior mirrors with active heating Fog lights Rain sensor and automatic high beam control Ambient lighting Automatic air conditioning with regulation 2 zones (replaced by 4 A/C zones) Bluetooth preparation Control screen with 10.2 color monitor Stereo speaker system (replaced by HiFi speaker system with 205 W amplifier, etc.) Interior rearview mirror with function automatic anti-dazzle Internet functionality Multifunction leather steering wheel (replaced by an M steering wheel) Navigation system BMW Professional radio with CD player Direct charging system USB audio interface Dakota leather upholstery Added options are: M Sport package includes: BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line BMW Individual roof lining anthracite Interior Aluminum trim Hexagon M Aerodynamic package M sports suspension M leather steering wheel Sports seats for driver and front passenger (replaced by comfort seats) M door sills 19 M light alloy wheels 351 M double-spoke sports automatic gearbox Adaptive drive Integrated active steering Alarm system Comfort Access Comfort air conditioning Windshield Rear camera Sunroof Anti-glare mirrors Active seat ventilation Comfort seats (includes lumbar support and electric seat adjustment) Heated seat Driver and passenger high beam assist Lane departure warning Waming Lane Change Warning Surround See DAB+ 4-Z0NE digital tuner Air conditioning Automatic tailgate Black front grille (dealer fitted) M rear spoiler Now added: Controlled parking assistant voice HiFi speaker system Window tint (darkest street legal - fitted by dealer) Looks like late December delivery.

cagatacos (202hp) don't you have DAB Radio in Australia. It is recommended in Europe.

sunshine17 (289hp) Quote: Originally posted by bimmer man, don't you have DAB radio in Australia. It is recommended in Europe. Yes, I ordered the DAB+ Digital Tuner option. We only have it in the capitals but that's where I live anyway so it would be nice to have it.

scroll (307hp) Quote: Cruise control with braking function Is it the one that follows the car in front? Otherwise, get this one...it's superb for heavy traffic and highway driving....

cactus (442hp) No, it's standard cruise control. I don't want the version you are referring to because we have this feature on our other car (Lexus IS250 Sports Luxury - it came standard) and after the first few times I used it on the highway I absolutely hated it and we didn't do it. I haven't used it in over 3 years + I don't drive during rush hour anyway. I hear what you're saying, but I guess it all comes down to personal preference anyway. Thanks for this thought'.

josh21 (317hp) Quote: Originally posted by bmwombat No, it's standard cruise control. I don't want the version you are referring to because we have this feature on our other car (Lexus IS250 Sports Luxury - it came standard) and after the first few times I used it on the highway I absolutely hated it and we didn't do it. I haven't used it in over 3 years + I don't drive during rush hour anyway. I hear what you're saying, but I guess it all comes down to personal preference anyway. Thank you for this thought. Wasn't it good on the Lex? Because I also have it on my Land Cruiser (same manufacturer as Lexus) and I hate it there too, I think it's useless. But in my F10 I love it... it does the job extremely well, you can adjust it quite well from the steering wheel, it displays a lot of information on the HUD, etc.

michael84 (876hp) Quote: Posted by tnikolov Wasn't he good on the Lex? Because I also have it on my Land Cruiser (same manufacturer as Lexus) and I hate it there too, I think it's useless. But in my F10, I love it... it does the job extremely well, you can adjust it quite well from the steering wheel, it displays a lot of information on the HUD, etc. I certainly didn't like it on the Lexus. Plus, it's a 4,700 AUD (+ some tax) option here, so it's very hard for me to justify it given my previous experience with my Lexus..

tyler15 (645hp) Quote: Originally posted by bmwombat No, it's standard cruise control. I don't want the version you are referring to because we have this feature on our other car (Lexus IS250 Sports Luxury - it came standard) and after the first few times I used it on the highway I absolutely hated it and we didn't do it. I haven't used it in over 3 years + I don't drive during rush hour anyway. I hear what you're saying, but I guess it all comes down to personal preference anyway. Thank you for this thought. I completely agree with your preference. I tested the Stop & Go feature and decided to ditch it and just stick with the barebones braking feature. I hated the feeling that the car would accelerate/decelerate on its own rather than with direct input from the driver..

macie1 (222hp) Quote: Originally posted by rhinosaur I totally agree with your preference. I tested the Stop & Go feature and decided to ditch it and just stick with the barebones braking feature. I hated the feeling that the car would accelerate/decelerate on its own rather than under direct input from the driver. yes...this was the major problem I had with the same feature on my Lexus IS250 SL. I want to control braking/acceleration.

navy (458hp) Quote: Originally posted by bmwombat Hello everyone, I have now made my final decisions as to the final specs I want for my new Carbon Black 535d M-Sport: The standard specs are (as I know this differs from 'country to country): • Automatic start/Stop function • Regeneration of braking energy • Driving experience control incl. ECO PRO mode • Electric power steering with Servotronic • Active front head restraints • Driver and front passenger airbags with occupant detection • Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) incl. Dynamic Traction Control (DTC), Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), CBC and Brake Assist • Head airbags for front and rear • Side airbags for front passenger • Cruise control with braking function • Head-up display • Park Distance Control (PDC) - front and rear • Bi-xenon headlights with headlight washers • Aspherical, electrically adjustable exterior mirrors with active heating • Fog lights • Rain sensor and automatic high beam control • Ambient lighting • Automatic climate control with 2-zone control (replaced by 4-zone climate control) • Bluetooth preparation • Control screen with 10.2 color monitor • Stereo speaker system (replaced by speaker system HiFi with 205 W amplifier, etc.) • Interior rearview mirror with automatic dimming function • Internet functionality • Multifunction leather steering wheel (replaced by M steering wheel) • Professional navigation system • BMW Professional radio with CD player • Charging system • USB audio interface • Dakota leather upholstery The added options are: • M Sport package includes: BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line BMW Individual anthracite roof trim Hexagon M aluminum interior trim Aerodynamic package M sports suspension M leather steering wheel Driver's sports seats and front passenger (replaced by comfort seats) M door sills 19 M 351 M light alloy wheels with double spokes • Sports automatic transmission • Adaptive drive • Integrated active steering • Alarm system • Comfort access • Climate comfort windshield • Rear camera • Sunroof • Dimming mirrors • Active seat ventilation • Comfort seats (includes lumbar support and electric seat adjustment) • Heated driver and passenger seats • High beam assistant • Lane departure warning • Lane departure warning • Surround view • DAB+ digital tuner • 4-Z0NE air conditioning • Automatic tailgate • Black grille (dealer fitted) • Rear spoiler M Now added: • Voice control • Parking assistant • HiFi speaker system • Tinted Windows (Darkest Street Legal - Installed by Dealer) Looks like a late December delivery. I just missed the October build window - bugga! Delivery has now moved to the 3rd week in January 2013 - and good! However, this gives me time to add a few more options: • Tire pressure monitor • Music interface for smartphone I am also investigating whether or not I can swap the 351M rims for 312 (ferric gray) or 356..

sparky01 (730hp) Congratulations, an impressive spec! I think you made the right decision regarding adaptive cruise control and night vision. Both options are ridiculously expensive (like most BMW options). I would highly recommend the second best Pro HiFi system (Dirac 600W). It's well worth the extra money compared to the others. The 351M wheels look great but I've already had two accidents parking too close to the curb - a downside with the low profile tires and wheels 19

240488 (94hp) Quote: Originally posted by Bimmernerd Congratulations, an impressive spec! I think you made the right decision regarding adaptive cruise control and night vision. Both options are ridiculously expensive (like most BMW options). I would highly recommend the second best Pro HiFi system (Dirac 600W). It's well worth the extra money compared to the others. The 351M wheels look great but I've already had two accidents parking too close to the curb - a downside with low profile tires and 19 wheels. I have already spent A$1300 to upgrade to the 205W system. Here in OZ the 600W system costs A$2900. and the high end B&O system costs A$13,000!!!! Do you really think it's worth it for me to pay an extra A$1,600 (on top of the A$1,300 I've already spent) for an in-car stereo? Actually, I'm interested in anyone's comments on this. Plus, I don't spend every day in the car because I work from home, so I don't have a daily commute or visiting clients to do..

lek (916hp) I have HiFi Professional (i.e. the 600W system mentioned by Bimmernerd) and am extremely happy with it. I listen to heavy stuff (e.g. Tool) and this is the first system where I don't need to reduce the volume or bass to avoid distortion or vibration. The sound is crystal clear, very well balanced in the x, y, z dimensions and you have an equalization mode. 5 stars

florida22 (598hp) Quote: Posted by rhinosaur I have HiFi Professional... 5 stars Glad to hear that. I ordered the same system for my F11 535i. Around 700 GBP in the UK. I considered the B&O (despite its very high cost) but ultimately decided against ordering it without a back-to-back comparison with the HiFi pro. Comparison demo not available - no dealer here appears to have a B&O equipped car. Well done, Richard.

ain123 (847hp) Honestly, the HiFi Professional beats the B/O by a long shot in a cost/benefit comparison. The first is already very good and costs less than a third of the price of the second. I would also add that I feel like the HiFi Professional system has received some recent improvements. When I tested a car in January this year (a 535d Touring built mid-2011, I believe), I could definitely feel that the sound was too spatially centered, to the point where I was doubting whether I should go there or No. In my car (MY 2013) it's not a problem at all.

donkey7 (217hp) What is this ticking (!?): I just started hearing it tonight! In the second clip, it's there, builds up in intensity, then stops, but comes back...

deathnote2 (827hp) Quote: Originally posted by dbs600 What is that ticking sound (!?): I just started hearing it tonight! In the second clip, it's there, builds up in intensity, then stops, but comes back It looks like a Diesel engine. I don't know why but it's definitely not normal.

atport1 (151hp) A sticky riser? Bad gas? It actually looks like a fuel injector. That's how it sounds sometimes - think static electricity.

friends07 (563hp) This is the fuel tank vent valve. The valve is located near the air box. It's completely normal to hear it and then it goes away. Different conditions cause it to actuate faster/slower or not at all.

mentira1 (957hp) What engine is it??

26091992 (501hp) An N63 in a 750Li

allan (450hp) Isn't the N63 a direct injection engine? If so, the ticking of the piezo injectors is normal... I have a similar sound on the N54, and the newer N20s have very very loud injectors, almost sounding like a diesel..

cielito (195hp) I'm not sure, because I've had the car for two years and haven't noticed it until now. Can you hear how persistent it is in the first clip, but only heard for a few moments in the second clip, after which you hear a normal engine noise...?

1patches (583hp) Mine does the same thing on startup (N55) and it goes away after about 5 minutes. I've been doing this since day one and have had it for 3 months now with no issues.

180390 (796hp) Quote: Posted by j535i Mine does the same thing on startup (N55) and disappears after about 5 minutes. It's been done since day one and I've had it for 3 months now with no issues. Okay, thanks, but the car had already been driving for about 10-15 minutes when the video was shot (running into a restaurant to pick up dinner)... Maybe just a coincidence.

jermaine1 (695hp) If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't low octane fuel cause this ticking noise ??

gzmdesign (184hp) I'm not sure, but I always use Sunoco Ultra, which has an octane rating of 93....

10121995 (71hp) Quote: Originally posted by Chinese_food If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't low octane fuel cause this ticking noise? Low octane fuel will not cause a ticking noise at idle at all. Yes, the N63 is direct injection. All BMW direct injection engines are noisy, it's normal that it sounds like they do in the video. For the 2nd time. This ticking noise is coming from the fuel tank vent valve. That's why you hear it sometimes and sometimes not. It simply operates according to its normal cycle. It acts in different conditions. Ambient temperature, fuel level, etc. all have an effect on when it will trigger. That's why you hear it sometimes and sometimes not

barnie (737hp) What is this ticking (!?): I just started hearing it tonight! In the second clip, it's there, builds up in intensity, then stops, but comes back...

jaaay (933hp) Quote: Originally posted by dbs600 What is that ticking sound (!?): I just started hearing it tonight! In the second clip, it's there, builds up in intensity, then stops, but comes back It looks like a Diesel engine. I don't know why but it's definitely not normal.

ryan101 (12hp) A sticky riser? Bad gas? It actually looks like a fuel injector. That's how it sounds sometimes - think static electricity.

baxter2 (695hp) This is the fuel tank vent valve. The valve is located near the air box. It's completely normal to hear it and then it goes away. Different conditions cause it to actuate faster/slower or not at all.

03071993 (658hp) What engine is it??

cthuttdyf (329hp) An N63 in a 750Li

sissie (912hp) Isn't the N63 a direct injection engine? If so, the piezo injectors ticking is normal... I have a similar sound on the N54, and the newer N20s have very very loud injectors, almost sounding like a diesel..

jR-LA (10hp) I'm not sure, because I've had the car for two years and haven't noticed it until now. Can you hear how persistent it is in the first clip, but only heard for a few moments in the second clip, after which you hear a normal engine noise...?

mik (54hp) Mine does the same thing on startup (N55) and it goes away after about 5 minutes. I've been doing this since day one and have had it for 3 months now with no issues.

07051994 (676hp) Quote: Posted by j535i Mine does the same thing on startup (N55) and disappears after about 5 minutes. It's been done since day one and I've had it for 3 months now with no issues. Okay, thanks, but the car had already been driving for about 10-15 minutes when the video was shot (running into a restaurant to pick up dinner)... Maybe just a coincidence.

babyface12 (667hp) If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't low octane fuel cause this ticking noise ??

28011989 (747hp) I'm not sure, but I always use Sunoco Ultra, which has an octane rating of 93....

28031988 (603hp) Quote: Originally posted by Chinese_food If I'm not mistaken, wouldn't low octane fuel cause this ticking noise? Low octane fuel will not cause a ticking noise at idle at all. Yes, the N63 is direct injection. All BMW direct injection engines are noisy, it's normal that it sounds like they do in the video. For the 2nd time. This ticking noise is coming from the fuel tank vent valve. That's why you hear it sometimes and sometimes not. It simply operates according to its normal cycle. It acts in different conditions. Ambient temperature, fuel level, etc. all have an effect on when it will trigger. That's why you hear it sometimes and sometimes not

now (507hp) I've been hiding on all 3 tables for the last few months.... What are your comparisons, say....A7....CLS550....550i M-Sport.....both in terms of appearance and modding? I got out of an M6 convertible last year...and just jumped into an SL55 as a temporary car...but I'll be getting rid of it by summer. I like how a Dinan tune can take the 550i up to 500 hp and 580 torque (quicker than the SL55 and probably the E63/E64 M6). I haven't really looked at the Panamera as they are still in the 70's even for the bone models, let alone the S or Turbos. Why get that when you could modify a 550? I don't see many CLSs around...are they just not as popular as MB thought? I also doubt they have many tuning options. I wouldn't mind a CLS63...but they still cost $100,000. I just don't think the extra power justifies $40k more than a CLS550...everything else between the cars is basically the same. A7...I know Audi is the star at the moment...but I wonder how the ride compares to BMW/Benz. I also doubt there are many tuning options for this car. Jag I just don't feel it's a young person's car (I'm 32) and I rarely see them driving. Audi A8...same here...not sure if this is designed as a modding car. It looks nice...better than the XJ...but it seems the A7 is the more practical car than the A8. I had an F01 750li and loved the size.....

rjvgm.nth (919hp) I've been hiding on all 3 tables for the last few months.... What are your comparisons, say....A7....CLS550....550i M-Sport.....both in terms of appearance and modding? I got out of an M6 convertible last year...and just jumped into an SL55 as a temporary car...but I'll be getting rid of it by summer. I like how a Dinan tune can take the 550i up to 500 hp and 580 torque (quicker than the SL55 and probably the E63/E64 M6). I haven't really looked at the Panamera as they are still in the 70's even for the bone models, let alone the S or Turbos. Why get that when you could modify a 550? I don't see many CLSs around...are they just not as popular as MB thought? I also doubt they have many tuning options. I wouldn't mind a CLS63...but they still cost $100,000. I just don't think the extra power justifies $40k more than a CLS550...everything else between the cars is basically the same. A7...I know Audi is the star at the moment...but I wonder how the ride compares to BMW/Benz. I also doubt there are many tuning options for this car. Jag I just don't feel it's a young person's car (I'm 32) and I rarely see them driving. Audi A8...same here...not sure if this is designed as a modding car. It looks nice...better than the XJ...but it seems the A7 is the more practical car than the A8. I had an F01 750li and loved the size.....

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