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| 201281 (79hp) | Quote: Originally posted by enigma01 And it has the non-sport US spec 330 wheels. By the way, I don't think I would call this a review. Where are all the 550i reviews? I'm surprised that there are hardly any reviews of the most powerful version yet. I asked the BMW folks at the NY Auto Show about the lack of reviews on the 550i. They said they had not yet given the 550i to the media to test drive. No further explanation. Your strategy could be to promote them separately to get another wave of media exposure.
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| isaac123 (153hp) | I asked the same thing and got a similar answer at the New York Auto Show. BMW's decision to withhold the 550i from testing is starting to make me very nervous. I have no experience in marketing, but potential F10 550 buyers are already incentivized to wait indefinitely for the new M5 to come out. You might think that BMW would now like to create some excitement around this model.
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| wel (153hp) | Very positive review of the 530d from Auto Express. This applies to the STANDARD suspension.
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| 16071981 (588hp) | I wouldn't believe it until I got to take a test drive myself, lol
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| iluvme! (457hp) | Updated with 550i test drive Motortrend: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=386167
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| joey23 (126hp) | Updated with Jeremy Clarkson's praise for the 535i http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387459
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| trindade (917hp) | For those of you who know some German. An article from the German car magazine AutoBild.de comparing the 530d, 530d GT and 730d. In the end the ranking is: 1. 530d 2. 730d 3. 530d GT For those of you who don't understand German, there are lots of comparison pictures of the cars. http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-7...=40&now=27#mmg
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| plastics (774hp) | Quote: Originally written by gorban For those of you who know some German. An article from the German car magazine AutoBild.de comparing the 530d, 530d GT and 730d. In the end the ranking is: 1. 530d 2. 730d 3. 530d GT For those of you who don't understand German, there are lots of comparison pictures of the cars. http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-7...=40&now=27#mmg Thank you for reminding me of Autobild. I bought the magazine last week, and only if you're a rear passenger are you more or less better off in the 7 Series, to be brief. And his braking distance was shorter. But paying 20,000 euros (in Germany) more than for the 530d is your own decision. In any case, the color, appearance and wheels of the tested 730d are excellent in my opinion compared to the silver gray 530d....
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| 1397 (235hp) | Other Autocar reviewer http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...30d-SE/246781/
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| vishwen (964hp) | Review list updated.
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| 535i///M (451hp) | Updated with NY Times general overview: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=410025
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| gabriel10 (223hp) | Here is the Car and Driver comparison test on YouTube:
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| playa23 (202hp) | Here's the CNET review of the 535i, I hope this isn't a repost. http://reviews.cnet.com/sedan/2011-b...=2011+BMW+535i
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| nacional1 (749hp) | List updated.
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| 271989 (553hp) | http://www.myavidgolfer.com/articles...epartment_id=8
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| watsup1 (877hp) | Telegraph.co.uk F11 530d Touring review. The almost most perfect car in the world. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...the-world.html
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| 2bananas (910hp) | Updated.
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| nokian70 (463hp) | This appears to be a new review. Very comprehensive. http://www.mercurynews.com/cars/ci_1...nclick_check=1
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| 28101983 (605hp) | Quote: Originally written by Goodchip This appears to be a new review. Very comprehensive. http://www.mercurynews.com/cars/ci_1...nclick_check=1 This is a very good review of the car. Just right in terms of ride, handling and steering compared to the E60 and E39.
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| T111 (614hp) | Car&Driver test drive of the 2011 BMW 535i xDrive model. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
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| 07011986 (285hp) | This guy says that the xDrive steering is the same as the RWD car. He obviously didn't drive it. I have the xDrive and it doesn't have electric steering. He should drive the car before writing the review. John
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| jillybean (773hp) | Comparison test from the German AMS: 530d x-drive vs. A6 3.0 tdi quattro vs. E350cdi 4-matic. BMW ends up in last place. Loses to Audi in the disciplines of handling, performance, braking, economy, etc. Loses to MB in the discipline of comfort. This is the first comparison test I've ever seen of a 5 Series losing out to its premium German rivals. The new Audi has caught up. While Audi has lost weight since the last model, BMW has increased. http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/v...10.html?show=2
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| 190700 (488hp) | I'm so happy.
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| punks (581hp) | I love it! Fantastic design...can't wait to see it in person...can't wait to see the M5!
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| 2013F10 (626hp) | Where are these photos taken???
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| pft: (335hp) | I like the back: the front looks too soft. Should have been more aggressive. It looks like a regular current Gen 3 series: All in all it's good, but....
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| 061289 (516hp) | Quote: Originally written by JMD0977. I like the back: the front looks too soft. Should have been more aggressive. It looks like a regular current Gen 3 series: Overall it's good, but... I agree.
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| daddy101 (746hp) | The more I look at the pictures, the more I fall in love with the car. PS: I'm a fan of BMW, and that started with the E60 series, so I don't find the current 5 Series as ugly as some others you say, IMO
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| Shaff77 (63hp) | Simply beautiful! I love it!!
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| MedJ911 (964hp) | Looks beautiful, especially the rear. What I miss most is the angry front look of e60
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| dogbert (35hp) | I love it! For some reason it kind of reminds me of the E39... which is good because visually it's one of my favorite BMWs
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| ginger1234 (248hp) | I really like the back. However, I am waiting for the dam to improve things. The headlights still look confused though. Overall it looks like a Hyundai to me...I don't know why.
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| mememe3 (864hp) | The M5 variant will be sexy as hell.
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| karenina (315hp) | Impressive, I can't wait to see what the M5 turns out to be like.
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| QxXM93Js (990hp) | I hate the taillights part in the trunk, that angle to the bumper (downwards) always bothers me. The flat line of the F's taillights was retained01
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| panthers11 (777hp) | Damn... I wouldn't mind one of those 550i's!!
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| chenf (877hp) | - The back looks good. The side profile looks a bit long in the nose, with a Volvo-like grille overhang. The front is fine, but the hood is too busy. The outer folds aren't quite right - look better in MSport guise. Strange positioning of the i-Drive cont
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| goody2shoe (116hp) | The family tree photos reminded me of Cookie Monster on Sesame Street singing his famous song: One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong... And he didn't sing about the F10.
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| honolulu1 (752hp) | In my opinion it would look better if the lower part of the taillights were aligned with the lines of the rear bumper. Something like this (made with paint). I think these downward lines don't help at all
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| 123456.. (181hp) | SIMPLE JANE
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| 110280 (39hp) | I like the rear, but I'm not sure about the front fascia. I can't wait to see the M-Tech Sport package and M5 versions!
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| gattone (252hp) | Looks great from the back... actually reminiscent of the 3 Series Coupe. The side view works...but the front view was more aggressive. Overall thumbs up. The interior is reminiscent of mine 7....
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| puccini (504hp) | I really like what they did. I just got my M3 but may need to upgrade to the M5 in 3 years.
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| adam14 (213hp) | BMW 523i BMW 528i Body Number of doors/seats 4 / 5 4 / 5 Length/width/height (empty) mm 4899 / 1860 / 1464 4899 / 1860 / 1464 Wheelbase mm 2968 2968 Track width front/rear mm 1600 / 1627 1600 / 1627 Ground clearance mm 141 141 Turning circle m 11.95 11.95 Tank capacity approx. Ltr 70 70 Cooling system incl. heating Ltr 9.0 9.0 Engine oil 1) Ltr 6.5 6.5 Empty weight according to DIN/EU kg 1625 / 1700 ( 1650 / 1725) 1635 / 1710 (1655 / 1730) Max. payload according to DIN kg 610 610 Max. permissible load kg 2235 (2260) 2245 (2265) Max. axle load front/rear kg 1070 / 1265 (1070 / 1270) 1070 / 1265 (1070 / 1270) Max .Trailer payload (12%), braked/unbraked kg 1900 / 750 (2000 / 750) 2000 / 750 Max. roof load/max. Trailer coupling kg 100/90 100/90 Luggage compartment capacity ltr 520 520 Air resistance Cw x A 0.28 x 2.35 0.28 x 2.35 Drive configuration/number of cylinders/valves In-line six-cylinder / 4 In-line six-cylinder / 4 Engine technology Direct fuel injection (High Precision Injection ), Lean operation Direct fuel injection (High Precision Injection), Lean operation displacement, effective displacement 2996 2996 Stroke / bore mm 88.0 / 85.0 88.0 / 85.0 Compression ratio: 1 12.0 12.0 Fuel quality min. RON 91 min. RON 91 Max. power kW/HP 150 / 204 190 / 258 at rpm 6100 6600 Max. torque Nm/lb-ft 270/ 199 310/228 At rpm 1500-4250 2600-5000 Electrical system Battery/Installation Ah/– 80 (90) / Luggage compartment 80 (90) / Luggage compartment Alternator A/W 210 / 2940 210 / 2940 Driving dynamics and safety suspension, front Double wishbone axle with separate lower wishbone level, aluminum, small steering roll radius, anti-dive suspension, rear integral V multi-link axle, aluminum, with steering function, anti-squat and anti-dive, double acoustic separation Brakes at the front Single-piston aluminum swivel caliper disc brakes in Frame structure diameter mm 330 x 24 / internally ventilated 348 x 30 / internally ventilated rear brakes single-piston aluminum pivoting caliper disc brakes diameter mm 330 x 20 / internally ventilated 330 x 20 / internally ventilated driving stability systems series: DSC incl. ABS and dynamic traction control DTC, cornering brake control CBC, dynamic brake control DBC, dry brake function, fading compensation, start-off assistant, optional : Adaptive Drive Safety equipment as standard: Airbags for driver and front passenger, side airbags for driver and front passenger, head airbags for front and rear seats, three-point automatic belts on all seats with belt stoppers, belt tensioners and belt force limiters at the front, crash-active headrests at the front, crash sensors, tire puncture indicator. Steering Electric power steering (EPS) with Servotronic, optional: Integral Active Steering Total steering ratio: 1 17.1 17.1 tires front/rear 225/55 R17 97W 225/ 55 R17 97W rims front/rear 8J x 17 light alloy 8J x 17 light alloy BMW ConnectedDrive Comfort Optional: BMW Assist including information service, remote control functions and V-Info+, BMW TeleServices, integration mobile devices infotainment Optional: access to the Internet, BMW Online included Parking Info, National Info, Google Directory Service, News, Weather Realtime and BMW Routes Safety Optional: Adaptive cornering lights with cornering lights, variable light distribution and adaptive headlight range control, high beam assistant, Park Distance Control, reversing camera, surround view including side view and top view, BMW Night Vision with person detection, head-up display, parking assistant, collision warning with brake actuation function in combination with Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go, lane change warning, lane departure warning, speed limit information, Speed limiter, automatic/extended emergency transmission Transmission type Six-speed manual transmission (optional: eight-speed automatic with Steptronic) Gear ratios I :1 4.323 (4.714) 3.498 (4.714) II :1 2.456 (3.143) 1.984 (3.143) III :1 1.659 (2.106) 1.313 (2.106) IV :1 1.230 (1.667) 1.000 (1.667) V :1 1.000 (1.285) 0.809 (1.285) VI. :1 0.848 (1,000 ) 0.701 (1,000) VII :1 – :1 3,938 (3,295) 3,300 (3,295)5
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| chicha (121hp) | I'm so happy.
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| bunga (224hp) | I love it! Fantastic design...can't wait to see it in person...can't wait to see the M5!
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| joeboxer (376hp) | Where are these photos taken???
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| muruga (437hp) | I like the back: the front looks too soft. Should have been more aggressive. It looks like a regular current Gen 3 series: All in all it's good, but....
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| jackson! (531hp) | Quote: Originally written by JMD0977. I like the back: the front looks too soft. Should have been more aggressive. It looks like a regular current Gen 3 series: Overall it's good, but... I agree.
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| 110057 (19hp) | The more I look at the pictures, the more I fall in love with the car. PS: I'm a fan of BMW, and that started with the E60 series, so I don't find the current 5 Series as ugly as some others you say, IMO
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| ceasar (212hp) | Simply beautiful! I love it!!
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| louise23 (369hp) | Looks beautiful, especially the rear. What I miss most is the angry front look of e60
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| alyssa13 (441hp) | I love it! For some reason it kind of reminds me of the E39... which is good because visually it's one of my favorite BMWs
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| nikki23 (739hp) | I really like the back. However, I am waiting for the dam to improve things. The headlights still look confused though. Overall it looks like a Hyundai to me...I don't know why.
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| senior10 (772hp) | The M5 variant will be sexy as hell.
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| hardstyle1 (484hp) | Impressive, I can't wait to see what the M5 turns out to be like.
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| padmavathi (630hp) | I hate the taillights part in the trunk, that angle to the bumper (downwards) always bothers me. The flat line of the F's taillights was retained01
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| marito (11hp) | Damn... I wouldn't mind one of those 550i's!!
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| sudoku (495hp) | - The back looks good. The side profile looks a bit long in the nose, with a Volvo-like grille overhang. The front is fine, but the hood is too busy. The outer folds aren't quite right - look better in MSport guise. Strange positioning of the i-Drive cont
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| lovekids (56hp) | The family tree photos reminded me of Cookie Monster on Sesame Street singing his famous song: One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong... And he didn't sing about the F10.
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| dynomite (921hp) | In my opinion it would look better if the lower part of the taillights were aligned with the lines of the rear bumper. Something like this (made with paint). I think these downward lines don't help at all
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| 101268 (636hp) | SIMPLE JANE
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| 131283 (657hp) | I like the rear, but I'm not sure about the front fascia. I can't wait to see the M-Tech Sport package and M5 versions!
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| smail.ru (674hp) | Looks great from the back... actually reminiscent of the 3 Series Coupe. The side view works...but the front view was more aggressive. Overall thumbs up. The interior is reminiscent of mine 7....
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| rickross (913hp) | I really like what they did. I just got my M3 but may need to upgrade to the M5 in 3 years.
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| Winston (128hp) | BMW 523i BMW 528i Body Number of doors/seats 4 / 5 4 / 5 Length/width/height (empty) mm 4899 / 1860 / 1464 4899 / 1860 / 1464 Wheelbase mm 2968 2968 Track width front/rear mm 1600 / 1627 1600 / 1627 Ground clearance mm 141 141 Turning circle m 11.95 11.95 Tank capacity approx. Ltr 70 70 Cooling system incl. heating Ltr 9.0 9.0 Engine oil 1) Ltr 6.5 6.5 Empty weight according to DIN/EU kg 1625 / 1700 ( 1650 / 1725) 1635 / 1710 (1655 / 1730) Max. payload according to DIN kg 610 610 Max. permissible load kg 2235 (2260) 2245 (2265) Max. axle load front/rear kg 1070 / 1265 (1070 / 1270) 1070 / 1265 (1070 / 1270) Max . trailer load (12 %), braked/unbraked kg 1900/750 (2000/750) 2000/750 Max. roof load/max. Trailer coupling kg 100/90 100/90 Luggage compartment capacity ltr 520 520 Air resistance CW x A 0.28 x 2.35 0.28 x 2.35 Drive unit Config./No. of cylinders/valves In-line six-cylinder / 4 In-line six-cylinder / 4 Engine technology Direct fuel injection (High Precision Injection), lean operation Direct fuel injection (High Precision Injection), lean operation Displacement, effective cm³ 2996 2996 Stroke / bore mm 88.0 / 85.0 88.0 / 85.0 Compression ratio :1 12.0 12.0 Fuel quality min. RON 91 min. RON 91 Maximum power kW/ HP 150/204 190/258 at rpm 6100 6600 Max. torque Nm/lb-ft 270/199 310/228 at rpm 1500-4250 2600-5000 Electrical system Battery/Installation Ah/- 80 (90) / Luggage 80 (90) / Luggage compartment Alternator A/W 210 / 2940 210 / 2940 Driving dynamics and safety Front suspension double-link axle with separate lower handlebar level, aluminum, small steering roll radius, anti-dive rear suspension Integral V multi-link axle aluminum with steering function, anti-squat and anti-dive, double acoustic separation Front brakes Single-piston aluminum swing caliper disc brakes in frame structure Diameter mm 330 x 24 / Internally ventilated 348 x 30 / internally ventilated rear brakes Single-piston aluminum swivel caliper disc brakes diameter mm 330 x 20 / internally ventilated 330 x 20 / internally ventilated Driving stability systems Series: DSC incl. ABS and DTC Dynamic traction control, CBC Cornering Brake Control, DBC Dynamic Brake Control, dry braking function, fading compensation, start-off assistant, optional : Adaptive Drive Safety equipment Standard: Airbags for driver and front passenger, Side airbags for the driver and front passenger, head airbags for the front and rear seats, three-point automatic belts on all seats with belt stoppers, belt tensioners and belt force limiters at the front, crash-active headrests at the front, crash sensors, tire puncture indicator. Steering Electric power steering (EPS) with Servotronic, optional: integral active steering, total steering gear: 1 17.1 17.1 tires front/rear 225/55 R17 97W 225/55 R17 97W rims front/rear 8J x 17 light alloy 8J x 17 light alloy BMW ConnectedDrive Comfort Optional: BMW Assist including information service, remote control functions and V-Info+, BMW TeleServices, integration of mobile devices Infotainment Optional: Access to the Internet, BMW Online including parking information, country information, Google Directory Service, News, weather real-time and BMW Routes Safety Optional: Adaptive cornering lights with cornering lights, variable light distribution and adaptive headlight range control, high beam assistant, Park Distance Control, reversing camera, surround view including side view and top view, BMW Night Vision with recognition of the number of people, head-up display, Parking assistant, collision warning with brake actuation function in combination with active cruise control with stop & go, lane change warning, lane departure warning, speed limit info, speed limit device, Automatic/extended emergency call transmission Transmission type Six-speed manual transmission (optional: eight-speed automatic with Steptronic) Gear ratios I :1 4.323 (4.714) 3.498 (4.714) II :1 2.456 (3.143) 1.984 (3.143) III :1 1.659 (2.106) 1.313 (2.106) IV :1 1.230 (1.667) 1.000 (1.667) V :1 1.000 (1.285) 0.809 (1.285) VI :1 0.848 (1.000) 0.701 (1.000) VII :1 – (0.839) – (0.839) :1 3,938 (3,295) 3,300 (3,295)5
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| skittlez1 (53hp) | no start control?
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| torres123 (267hp) | So here is the real question. Does anyone know if you can get an LCI 550i with a 6 speed manual transmission??
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| lions (635hp) | The only thing that matters is the steering changes. Oh, little update. The interior looks beautiful. Unfortunately, nothing can be done about the bloated curb weight and the 116 wheelbase.
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| doremi123 (196hp) | Has anyone noticed that there are two additional buttons on the seat above the lumbar support? Are they bringing back the side bolsters? Sigh. Now is a good time to upgrade.
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| 11112 (202hp) | I can't say for sure, but how are the taillights different? Are they darker???
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| davidk (42hp) | Quote: Originally posted by kthankzbye Has anyone noticed that there are two extra buttons on the seat above the lumbar support? Are they bringing back the side bolsters? Sigh. Now is a good time to upgrade. The multi-contour seats/comfort seats here in Europe also have the adjustable side bolsters on the models before LCI.
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| cosmo2 (261hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ATX78703 The only thing that matters is the steering changes. Oh, little update. The interior looks beautiful. Unfortunately, nothing can be done about the bloated curb weight and the 116 wheelbase. I agree. Aesthetically there was never a problem. BMW could go for all the luxury/tech features, but ultimately the F10 will be judged by the poor steering before LCI. Hopefully the LCI will change that.
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| newyork69 (262hp) | In my opinion the big advantages are: - LED headlights - B&O stereo system - iDrive with touch controller. That makes it a win in my opinion.
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| cchrono (929hp) | BMW should NOT have increased the price. Navigation should be standard on a car like the 5 Series. Wouldn't you expect a sat-nav in a luxury sedan if you're sitting with your butt in the car? So WTF BMW!!! and why no update to the N55 engine. not even a performance boost!!! When will the N55 be phased out? We need more power
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| yankee2 (85hp) | Quote: Originally written by dbs600 I can't say exactly, but how are the taillights different? Are they darker? Read the posts on page one.
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| r1r2r3r4 (576hp) | Quote: Originally written by Stavros No launch control? Read the full press release, it's here.
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| okmnji (479hp) | I like most of it.
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| abcdef (98hp) | There should be a performance increase or weight loss that would bring the 5 Series to A level6
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| gaby (816hp) | Quote: Originally posted by aajami This looks sooo ghetto. I understand the need to maximize profits, but approach it from the top by increasing sales, not by nickel and diming the production process with terrible shortcuts like this. Wow. In fact, BMW has moved the turn signals to the side mirror housing across its entire range, as a European law will soon come into force requiring all vehicles sold in the EU to have turn signals in the mirror housing. BMW was the only manufacturer in Europe that still had them on the fenders.
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| sundown (203hp) | Quote: Originally written by hyperboost BMW should NOT have increased the price. Navigation should be standard on a car like the 5 Series. Wouldn't you expect a sat-nav in a luxury sedan if you're sitting with your butt in the car? So WTF BMW!!! and why no update to the N55 engine. not even a performance boost!!! When will the N55 be phased out? We need more power. The N55 successor will come onto the market in the 4 Series Gran Coupe and then establish itself in the rest of the model range
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| 136479 (275hp) | Quote: Originally posted by r3dbimmer89 In fact, BMW has moved the turn signals to the side mirror housings across its entire lineup because European laws are about to come into force requiring all vehicles sold in the EU to have turn signals in the mirror housing. BMW was the only manufacturer in Europe that still had them on the fenders. I'm sorry, that's not what I meant. I wasn't referring to moving the turn signals into the mirrors, which I don't mind at all and is actually better on most vehicles. What I was reacting to was the fact that BMW didn't want to create new faceplates to accommodate this change and instead appears to be continuing to use the pre-LCI plates and just adding a model identification/plate where the turn signal used to be it. Looks cheap and reflects BMW's poor economy attitude to the world.
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| 050393 (867hp) | Quote: Originally written by Needsdecaf. Read the full press release, it's here. Unfortunately there is no launch control in the 5 series automatic. Only in the 1,3 and 6 series with 8-speed automatic transmission. Why? https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__2223
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| cheska (602hp) | I don't really like the new exterior - the extra lines in the front and rear bumper are unnecessary. The LED headlight option for all models is cool. I'm more interested in the E-Class facelift, but maybe because I don't have one. I also prefer the old taillights, 3 wires are too many like that 7.
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| Melanie1 (235hp) | Quote: Originally posted by aajami I'm sorry, that's not what I meant. I wasn't referring to moving the turn signals into the mirrors, which I don't mind at all and is actually better on most vehicles. What I was reacting to was the fact that BMW didn't want to create new faceplates to accommodate this change and instead appears to be continuing to use the pre-LCI plates and just adding a model identification/plate where the turn signal used to be it. Looks cheap and reflects BMW's poor economy attitude to the world. Ok, got it...on that note I definitely agree!
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| fuckaduck (664hp) | Quote: Originally written by Stavros Unfortunately there is no launch control in the 5 series automatic. Only in the 1,3 and 6 series with 8-speed automatic transmission. Why? https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__2223 Launch Control is available on F10 models equipped with the Sport Automatic transmission that is standard on the 550i. This is noted in the press release in the first post.
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| hotmail. (654hp) | Are there any pictures or information about the new exterior/interior colors? When will the configurator be switched to the LCI????
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| ranma12 (262hp) | Quote: Originally posted by williamNJ Are there any pictures or information on the new exterior/interior colors? When will the configurator be switched to the LCI? Expect all of this in late June or July.
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| 051986 (770hp) | no start control?
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| daniel9 (578hp) | So here is the real question. Does anyone know if you can get an LCI 550i with a 6 speed manual transmission??
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| kaitlyn3 (53hp) | The only thing that matters is the steering changes. Oh, little update. The interior looks beautiful. Unfortunately, nothing can be done about the bloated curb weight and the 116 wheelbase.
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| pap (23hp) | Has anyone noticed that there are two additional buttons on the seat above the lumbar support? Are they bringing back the side bolsters? Sigh. Now is a good time to upgrade.
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| babyface12 (478hp) | I can't say for sure, but how are the taillights different? Are they darker???
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| 200680 (842hp) | Quote: Originally posted by kthankzbye Has anyone noticed that there are two extra buttons on the seat above the lumbar support? Are they bringing back the side bolsters? Sigh. Now is a good time to upgrade. The multi-contour seats/comfort seats here in Europe also have the adjustable side bolsters on the models before LCI.
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| 271987 (130hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ATX78703 The only thing that matters is the steering changes. Oh, little update. The interior looks beautiful. Unfortunately, nothing can be done about the bloated curb weight and the 116 wheelbase. I agree. Aesthetically there was never a problem. BMW could go for all the luxury/tech features, but ultimately the F10 will be judged by the poor steering before LCI. Hopefully the LCI will change that.
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| dewitt (844hp) | In my opinion the big advantages are: - LED headlights - B&O stereo system - iDrive with touch controller. That makes it a win in my opinion.
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| ibarra (298hp) | BMW should NOT have increased the price. Navigation should be standard on a car like the 5 Series. Wouldn't you expect a sat-nav in a luxury sedan if you're sitting with your butt in the car? So WTF BMW!!! and why no update to the N55 engine. not even a performance boost!!! When will the N55 be phased out? We need more power
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| need (151hp) | Quote: Originally written by dbs600 I can't say exactly, but how are the taillights different? Are they darker? Read the posts on page one.
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| 25041992 (808hp) | Quote: Originally written by Stavros No launch control? Read the full press release, it's here.
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| jason19 (913hp) | I like most of it.
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| boulogne (304hp) | There should be a performance increase or weight loss that would bring the 5 Series to A level6
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| 120806 (794hp) | Quote: Originally posted by aajami This looks sooo ghetto. I understand the need to maximize profits, but approach it from the top by increasing sales, not by nickel and diming the production process with terrible shortcuts like this. Wow. In fact, BMW has moved the turn signals to the side mirror housing across its entire range, as a European law will soon come into force requiring all vehicles sold in the EU to have turn signals in the mirror housing. BMW was the only manufacturer in Europe that still had them on the fenders.
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| Danster535D (221hp) | Quote: Originally written by hyperboost BMW should NOT have increased the price. Navigation should be standard on a car like the 5 Series. Wouldn't you expect a sat-nav in a luxury sedan if you're sitting with your butt in the car? So WTF BMW!!! and why no update to the N55 engine. not even a performance boost!!! When will the N55 be phased out? We need more power. The N55 successor will come onto the market in the 4 Series Gran Coupe and then establish itself in the rest of the model range
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| rayman1 (349hp) | Quote: Originally posted by r3dbimmer89 In fact, BMW has moved the turn signals to the side mirror housings across its entire lineup because European laws are about to come into force requiring all vehicles sold in the EU to have turn signals in the mirror housing. BMW was the only manufacturer in Europe that still had them on the fenders. I'm sorry, that's not what I meant. I wasn't referring to moving the turn signals into the mirrors, which I don't mind at all and is actually better on most vehicles. What I was reacting to was the fact that BMW didn't want to create new faceplates to accommodate this change and instead appears to be continuing to use the pre-LCI plates and just adding a model identification/plate where the turn signal used to be it. Looks cheap and reflects BMW's poor economy attitude to the world.
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| adriana (112hp) | Quote: Originally written by Needsdecaf. Read the full press release, it's here. Unfortunately there is no launch control in the 5 series automatic. Only in the 1,3 and 6 series with 8-speed automatic transmission. Why? https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__2223
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| edward23 (814hp) | I don't really like the new exterior - the extra lines in the front and rear bumper are unnecessary. The LED headlight option for all models is cool. I'm more interested in the E-Class facelift, but maybe because I don't have one. I also prefer the old taillights, 3 wires are too many like that 7.
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| ChrisHTX (675hp) | Quote: Originally posted by aajami I'm sorry, that's not what I meant. I wasn't referring to moving the turn signals into the mirrors, which I don't mind at all and is actually better on most vehicles. What I was reacting to was the fact that BMW didn't want to create new faceplates to accommodate this change and instead appears to be continuing to use the pre-LCI plates and just adding a model identification/plate where the turn signal used to be it. Looks cheap and reflects BMW's poor economy attitude to the world. Ok, got it...on that note I definitely agree!
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| hfvbkm (289hp) | Quote: Originally written by Stavros Unfortunately there is no launch control in the 5 series automatic. Only in the 1,3 and 6 series with 8-speed automatic transmission. Why? https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__2223 Launch Control is available on F10 models equipped with the Sport Automatic transmission that is standard on the 550i. This is noted in the press release in the first post.
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| 15975321 (6hp) | Are there any pictures or information about the new exterior/interior colors? When will the configurator be switched to the LCI????
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| ricardo2 (434hp) | Quote: Originally posted by williamNJ Are there any pictures or information on the new exterior/interior colors? When will the configurator be switched to the LCI? Expect all of this in late June or July.
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| Johnkwick (23hp) | Better photos:
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| 20061977 (235hp) | Schön
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| gnaget (21hp) | Quote: Originally written by Theride. Call me crazy, but it looks better than the sedan. +1 T
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| jeshua (599hp) | it looks better than the sedan!!!
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| Bmr3sn (196hp) | win!
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| savage12 (729hp) | new video they just posted on Facebook. http://www.bmw.tv/com/home/showVideo...articleID=7021
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| Bigozz (557hp) | Quote: Originally posted by UdubBadger, new video they just posted on Facebook. http://www.bmw.tv/com/home/showVideo...articleID=7021 Nice video. Thanks for the link.
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| ringo123 (29hp) | In any case, I'm really starting to like this new 5 Series.
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| david99 (824hp) | This is really an eye-catcher!! and I think it looks better than the sedan too
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| THMSNL (363hp) | Quote: That was then – this is now: Consumer tastes are changing. Body-on-frame SUVs are dead, as Ford switched to monobody construction with the Explorer in 2011/12. Car buyers seeking practical transportation options are considering station wagons, and some manufacturers have vehicles ready, most notably Cadillac's CTS Wagon and recent news from Lexus is strongly considering including a station wagon in its next IS iteration. I question BMW's consideration of replacing the Touring in the US with a heavier, more expensive, less practical vehicle with a limited powertrain. It seems logical that a great marketing department would be able and willing to create a business plan and create demand for great looking, sophisticated, practical and sporty transportation like the F11. If not, allow me to try. I'll do it for free! You have such an amazing product here, I can't stop thinking about it! Yes, it's true, unfortunately consumers' demands are not changing in the direction of the BMW 5 Series Touring. In recent years we have noticed a decline in the US market for touring models, and BMW had previously warned that engine variants and model ranges would sooner or later be discontinued in certain markets. Unfortunately, the 5 Series Touring is a loss in the North American market. The inclusion of the 5 Series Gran Turismo offers a replacement that departs from the utilitarian stigma that the Touring had. What was noticed with this new concept (the 5 Series Gran Turismo) is that customers appreciate the flexibility and variability of a station wagon in a car that doesn't look like it. The 5 Series Gran Turismo offers an impressive balance of luxury and comfort with typical BMW precision in a package that is anything but conventional. With Gran Turismo, we noticed, particularly in Europe, when the car went on sale in November, that the majority of cars delivered to customers were actually new BMW cars. I can't comment on the story for North America, although I assume it might be similar for some customers. With the introduction of the new X5 and 5 Series Gran Turismo, these will continue to be the choice for customers seeking flexibility and sporty luxury. The X5 offers all-wheel drive, while the 5 Series Gran Turismo will introduce xDrive later this year. The decision not to introduce the new BMW 5 Series Touring in North America is solely due to the declining demand for such vehicles. Sales of the E61 platform have fallen dramatically in North America. While the 5 Series Gran Turismo has sold more units than the E61Touring in North America so far this year.
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