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| +++: (846hp) | A $9 quart of oil every 900 miles seems excessive to me, but how do you argue or try to prove them (BMW) wrong? In most cases, I bet there must either be leaks in the seals or the rings have become a little sloppy in their cylinders. I have oily exhaust splatters all over my garage refrigerator, but not a single bit of soot from my Duramax diesel. You'd think the diesel would be the dirtier of the two, but apparently not.
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| teeter (471hp) | Quote: Posted by Chili Palmer A $9 quart of oil every 900 miles seems excessive to me, but how do you argue or try to prove them (BMW) wrong? In most cases I bet there must either be leaks in the seals or the rings have become a little sloppy in their cylinders. I have oily exhaust splatters all over my garage refrigerator, but not a single bit of soot from my Duramax diesel. You'd think the diesel would be the dirtier of the two, but apparently not. I was just wondering. did you break your car Italianate or did you buy your car used?
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| football90 (547hp) | Quote: Posted by The X Men Quote: Posted by Chili Palmer A $9 quart of oil every 900 miles seems excessive to me, but how do you argue or try to prove them (BMW) wrong? In most cases, I bet that either there must be leaks in the seals or the rings have become a little sloppy in their cylinders. I have oily exhaust splatters all over my garage refrigerator, but not a single bit of soot from my Duramax diesel. You'd think the diesel would be the dirtier of the two, but apparently not. I was just wondering. Did you break in your car the Italian way or did you buy your car used? It was an Executive CPO with 18,000 miles when I purchased it. So that means it was driven hard for 18,000 miles since whoever owned it had no real responsibility other than not crashing it..
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| 18081981 (512hp) | Quote: Originally Posted by Chili Palmer It was an executive CPO with 18,000 miles when I bought it. So that means it traveled 18,000 miles hard, because whoever owned it had no real responsibility other than not to crash it. Yeah, I bet these guys made it out before the car got hot.
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| sammer (515hp) | I need to purchase new tires on my 2011 BMW 550i non-Xdrive with Sport Package. The car came with Michelin Primacy Run Flats. The front is 245/40 R 19 and the rear is 275/35 R 19. I've heard good things about the Michelin Pilot Super Sports, but they are not run flats. Does anyone have any opinions on how non-runflat tires work? THANKS
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| airbag (165hp) | XLR8 - I used the super sports driver on my 335i, replacing the OEM RFTs. While I can't comment on what they would do on the 550 (mine is brand new), I CAN say that I have gone through several sets of them on the 335 over the years. These are AWESOME tires. They ride well, are quiet, and perform well in all weather conditions. I'll probably get these for the 550 when it's time to replace the stock RFTs. For safety reasons, I have a Continental ContiComfort kit to keep in the trunk. It is composed of a mini-compressor and a flat goo solution that can repair small tire damages if necessary. Luckily I never needed to use it - around $80 at TireRack, so cheap peace of mind.
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| 06091994 (884hp) | Quote: Originally posted by XLR8_24/7 I need new tires on my 2011 BMW 550i non-Xdrive with the Sport package. The car came with Michelin Primacy Run Flats. The front is 245/40 R 19 and the rear is 275/35 R 19. I've heard good things about the Michelin Pilot Super Sports, but they are not run flats. Does anyone have any opinions on how non-runflat tires work? Thanks I have a 550 sport quirky like you. The Pilots will change your life. I actually switched from the Michelin RF's on 19 msports to the new OEM M5 20 with drivers and was worried the 20's would be harsher on the bumps - they are 3x softer and handle like a new car. Honestly, it's night and day when it comes to comfort and handling.
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| dedmoroz (821hp) | I opted for the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 on my 2012 550 with XDrive and the change compared to the Goodyear LS2 is quite noticeable! The handling has improved considerably and the Michelins roll very well in light snow! A friend of mine at a dealership gave me a reasonable price for a bent 19 wheel that I sent for repair to Ye Olde Wheel & Welding. After smoothing and a superb resurfacing job I have a full size spare in the trunk..
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| 21121979 (340hp) | Have the Pilot SS on my 535 with the staggered setup and the increase in grip is astounding. I actually thought the Dunlop RFs were good, other than a horribly short lifespan. The SS riders definitely ride smoother while being more precise. The car handles much better with them. If you're OK with a no-RFT, that's great. I'm still waiting to see how it wears over time especially since I want to take all the turns faster on these things.
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| ihatemylife (952hp) | I want to thank everyone for answering my questions. Place an order for the Michelin Pilot Super Sports today.
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| conner123 (661hp) | I have an offset 535 set up with a new set of Michelin AS3s. I switched to an all-season tire for the few days we have frozen precipitation. After 2400 miles and replacing two warped rear tires. I now have tire noise between 70 and 80 mph. The tire carrier replaced them and I have a set of Michelin PSS in the garage waiting to be fitted.....Luckily it's raining today! I also have a BMW mobility kit and a dynaplug that I carry in my trunk. I haven't used it on a car yet, but it fixed a motorcycle tire in a flash. No glue needed and everything is contained in a self-contained, rechargeable tool. http://www.dynaplug.com
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| 17021988 (243hp) | skalberti: Thanks for the comments and information on the dynaplug. I just ordered my Michelin Pilot Super Sports from TireRack.com and will also order the Dyna Plug. I can't wait to receive my new Michelins and will update once installed.
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| mona1234 (746hp) | You will love having high-performance non-runflat tires. This has made an extremely noticeable difference for me. I replaced the Primacy RFTs with Bridgestone Potenza S-04s. Much more grip, plus a smoother, quieter ride and just half the price of what it would cost to get a new Primacy in the event of a breakdown. Plus, road hazard insurance only costs around $80/set, compared to $1,000+ at the dealership..
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| jackoff1 (422hp) | I need to purchase new tires on my 2011 BMW 550i non-Xdrive with Sport Package. The car came with Michelin Primacy Run Flats. The front is 245/40 R 19 and the rear is 275/35 R 19. I've heard good things about the Michelin Pilot Super Sports, but they are not run flats. Does anyone have any opinions on how non-runflat tires work? THANKS
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| jrcfyjxrf (700hp) | XLR8 - I used the super sports driver on my 335i, replacing the OEM RFTs. While I can't comment on what they would do on the 550 (mine is brand new), I CAN say that I have gone through several sets of them on the 335 over the years. These are AWESOME tires. They ride well, are quiet, and perform well in all weather conditions. I'll probably get these for the 550 when it's time to replace the stock RFTs. For safety reasons, I have a Continental ContiComfort kit to keep in the trunk. It is composed of a mini-compressor and a flat goo solution that can repair small tire damages if necessary. Luckily I never needed to use it - around $80 at TireRack, so cheap peace of mind.
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| karpova (16hp) | Quote: Originally posted by XLR8_24/7 I need new tires on my 2011 BMW 550i non-Xdrive with the Sport package. The car came with Michelin Primacy Run Flats. The front is 245/40 R 19 and the rear is 275/35 R 19. I've heard good things about the Michelin Pilot Super Sports, but they are not run flats. Does anyone have any opinions on how non-runflat tires work? Thanks I have a 550 sport quirky like you. The Pilots will change your life. I actually switched from the Michelin RF's on 19 msports to the new OEM M5 20 with drivers and was worried the 20's would be harsher on the bumps - they are 3x softer and handle like a new car. Honestly, it's night and day when it comes to comfort and handling.
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| 14041977 (889hp) | I opted for the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 on my 2012 550 with XDrive and the change compared to the Goodyear LS2 is quite noticeable! The handling has improved considerably and the Michelins roll very well in light snow! A friend of mine at a dealership gave me a reasonable price for a bent 19 wheel that I sent for repair to Ye Olde Wheel & Welding. After smoothing and a superb resurfacing job I have a full size spare in the trunk..
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| taufik (719hp) | Have the Pilot SS on my 535 with the staggered setup and the increase in grip is astounding. I actually thought the Dunlop RFs were good, other than a horribly short lifespan. The SS riders definitely ride smoother while being more precise. The car handles much better with them. If you're OK with a no-RFT, that's great. I'm still waiting to see how it wears over time especially since I want to take all the turns faster on these things.
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| 900000 (567hp) | I want to thank everyone for answering my questions. Place an order for the Michelin Pilot Super Sports today.
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| 15011979 (214hp) | I have an offset 535 set up with a new set of Michelin AS3s. I switched to an all-season tire for the few days we have frozen precipitation. After 2400 miles and replacing two warped rear tires. I now have tire noise between 70 and 80 mph. The tire rack put them out and I have a set of Michelin PSS in the garage waiting to be fitted.....Luckily it's raining today! I also have a BMW mobility kit and a dynaplug that I carry in my trunk. I haven't used it on a car yet, but it fixed a motorcycle tire in a flash. No glue needed and everything is contained in a self-contained, rechargeable tool. http://www.dynaplug.com
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| 10071992 (821hp) | skalberti: Thanks for the comments and information on the dynaplug. I just ordered my Michelin Pilot Super Sports from TireRack.com and will also order the Dyna Plug. I can't wait to receive my new Michelins and will update once installed.
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| 04091987 (9hp) | You will love having high-performance non-runflat tires. This has made an extremely noticeable difference for me. I replaced the Primacy RFTs with Bridgestone Potenza S-04s. Much more grip, plus a smoother, quieter ride and just half the price of what it would cost to get a new Primacy in the event of a breakdown. Plus, road hazard insurance only costs around $80/set, compared to $1,000+ at the dealership..
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| paraguay (630hp) | I started the car this morning to warm it up and a transmission malfunction warning popped up with an icon to schedule an immediate service appointment. I turned the car off and on again to find the same message. The third time the message went out. I called my SA and he told me to drive the car to the dealership if possible or he would send a tow. The dealership is only about 10 miles away and I can get there via back roads, no highway required. I decided to drive the car and it is now in the dealer's service area. I'm on loan 328 right now, but come on!!!! 300 miles traveled carefully and now this? Anyone else with similar experience.
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| nt (95hp) | Quote: Originally posted by nal13 I started the car this morning to warm it up and a cylinder malfunction warning popped up with an icon to schedule an immediate service appointment. I turned the car off and on again to find the same message. The third time the message went out. I called my SA and he told me to bring the car back if possible now or he would send a tow. I decided to drive the car and it is now in the dealer's service area. I'm on loan 328 right now, but come on!!!! 300 miles traveled carefully and now this? Anyone else with similar experience. sorry to hear that! I have about 3k on my car now, and haven't experienced this with my '14 550xi...please keep us posted on what they find.
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| 17041985 (280hp) | Had this happened on my 11 550xi, but it's because I beat the car. The coil packs were replaced at 25,000 miles but I believe they only replaced 3, the other 3 were replaced about 1000 miles ago because the car kept going into limp mode when I hit it..
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| 011193 (486hp) | There is a term in the industry called infant mortality...even if things work initially, a small percentage of parts will fail in a short period of time. That's why they give you a guarantee... whereas a downside happens, and it's just the luck of the draw. If they experience too many failures, they either change suppliers or redesign the part. If it was really common, they would do a recall. It's one of those things you have to live with and the chances of it happening again are pretty low, but still there..
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| 080891 (155hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jadnashuanh There is a term in the industry called infant mortality...even if things work initially, a small percentage of parts will fail in a short time. That's why they give you a guarantee... whereas a downside happens, and it's just the luck of the draw. If they experience too many failures, they either change suppliers or redesign the part. If it was really common, they would do a recall. It's one of those things you have to live with and the chances of it happening again are pretty low, but still present. I wouldn't be as worried if it was an electrical problem. Transmission problems scare me. I really hope this isn't the beginning of a lemon. Fortunately, CT has a very good lemon law and if the car is out of service for more than 30 days for the same problem, the consumer is entitled to a new vehicle. I hope it was a simple glitch but I'll have to wait until Monday morning to see.
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| 100982 (810hp) | Quote: Originally posted by nal13 I started the car this morning to warm it up and a transmission malfunction warning popped up with an icon to schedule an immediate service appointment. I turned the car off and on again to find the same message. The third time the message went out. I called my SA and he told me to drive the car to the dealership if possible or he would send a tow. The dealership is only about 10 miles away and I can get there via back roads, no highway required. I decided to drive the car and it is now in the dealer's service area. I'm on loan 328 right now, but come on!!!! 300 miles traveled carefully and now this? Anyone else with similar experience. I had a 2011 550i and the transmission malfunction warning light came on frequently (more than it should). Many times it was nothing and he bit himself after the car was turned off and back on. Once the fuel pump needed to be replaced and another time the clutch needed to be replaced (it was a 6 speed MT). The good news was never paid a cent with the guarantee but it is very inconvenient and annoying. As another said, I think it's really the luck of the draw (I hope).
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| helga_557634 (952hp) | Without knowing what turns this light on, keep in mind that the transmission is made up of both many mechanical elements AND many electronic sensors to monitor and activate the elements...it may not be a problem at all. mechanical problem, as evidenced by your ability to drive it to the dealership. On my vehicle I had two electrical problems, resolved under warranty: the electronic parking brake switch was defective almost from the first day after delivery to Germany, and about a year later I had problems with the electronic switch that opens the tailgate. In this case there were no problems and I was able to continue driving the vehicle, but both were repaired and the problem did not recur. I have a little over a year left in the warranty and I hope everything else shows up too before that happens. Our BMW cars are far more electronically complex than probably anything else we own...it's a credit to the manufacturer that they don't break something more often.!
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| F360 (477hp) | Nal13 - sorry to hear this news. Let us know what they find. I'm guessing it's minor - more likely a bad sensor or electronic part with only 300 miles than something mechanical.
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| aerodyne (435hp) | I just received a call from BMW customer service. It's a fuel injector problem and at least one needs to be replaced. They will have the part on Wednesday and I should pick up the car in the afternoon. I hope this is the only problem I have with this car..
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| 5482 (198hp) | When I ordered my 2001 325i (navigation was all new for that year in the 3 - no car on any lot had it) I went to pick up the car and it had DSC and a brake light on from PICK-UP. with 14 miles on the clock. I was younger and definitely misinformed (it was my first BMW). The CA told me it was normal when the blah blah blah was whatever... I don't even remember his excuse right now, but I should have put two and two together, ALL light on the dashboard is generally a bad sign. Then again, every time I spoke to my CA, he kept calling me by the wrong name too - distracted guy. Long story short, I picked up the car, drove it 100 miles home (I got it from another dealer who was able to get a better deal), then immediately sent it to my dealer local where it would continue to be maintained for the rest, that's 6 years with me. It turned out to be a bad wheel sensor - nothing more. But it gave me the idea to start my experience with BMW and my new 325i. Well the car stayed with me for 6 years and 125,000 miles. There were minor issues here and there - mostly common things for an e46 - blower resistor motors, window seal creaks, etc. The most serious problem he ever had was an oil separator well over 100,000 miles. The point is, I wouldn't let that worry you. Some cars, like my 325i, that start out with problems end up being rock solid. So, maybe I would consider that good luck! You solved the first problem, and maybe that paved the way for a nice, solid ownership experience..
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| ninjaman (826hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass. So, maybe I would consider that good luck! You solved the first problem, and maybe that paved the way for a nice, solid ownership experience. Thank you for the words of encouragement.
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| daniel04 (890hp) | I just got my car back. The one faulty fuel injector was replaced and I hope this will be my one and only problem with this car. I felt dizzy when I got behind the wheel again, like a kid in a candy store. It really is an awesome machine..
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| sucette (124hp) | It's good to know you got it back!
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| arenas (710hp) | I started the car this morning to warm it up and a transmission malfunction warning popped up with an icon to schedule an immediate service appointment. I turned the car off and on again to find the same message. The third time the message went out. I called my SA and he told me to drive the car to the dealership if possible or he would send a tow. The dealership is only about 10 miles away and I can get there via back roads, no highway required. I decided to drive the car and it is now in the dealer's service area. I'm on loan 328 right now, but come on!!!! 300 miles traveled carefully and now this? Anyone else with similar experience.
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| 1wifey (593hp) | Quote: Originally posted by nal13 I started the car this morning to warm it up and a cylinder malfunction warning popped up with an icon to schedule an immediate service appointment. I turned the car off and on again to find the same message. The third time the message went out. I called my SA and he told me to bring the car back if possible now or he would send a tow. I decided to drive the car and it is now in the dealer's service area. I'm on loan 328 right now, but come on!!!! 300 miles traveled carefully and now this? Anyone else with similar experience. sorry to hear that! I have about 3k on my car now, and haven't experienced this with my '14 550xi...please keep us posted on what they find.
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| 260495 (11hp) | Had this happened on my 11 550xi, but it's because I beat the car. The coil packs were replaced at 25,000 miles but I believe they only replaced 3, the other 3 were replaced about 1000 miles ago because the car kept going into limp mode when I hit it..
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| michelle02 (683hp) | There is a term in the industry called infant mortality...even if things work initially, a small percentage of parts will fail in a short period of time. That's why they give you a guarantee... whereas a downside happens, and it's just the luck of the draw. If they experience too many failures, they either change suppliers or redesign the part. If it was really common, they would do a recall. It's one of those things you have to live with and the chances of it happening again are pretty low, but still there..
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| hollywood5 (659hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jadnashuanh There is a term in the industry called infant mortality...even if things work initially, a small percentage of parts will fail in a short time. That's why they give you a guarantee... whereas a downside happens, and it's just the luck of the draw. If they experience too many failures, they either change suppliers or redesign the part. If it was really common, they would do a recall. It's one of those things you have to live with and the chances of it happening again are pretty low, but still present. I wouldn't be as worried if it was an electrical problem. Transmission problems scare me. I really hope this isn't the beginning of a lemon. Fortunately, CT has a pretty good lemon law and if the car is out of service for more than 30 days for the same problem, the consumer is entitled to a new vehicle. I hope it was a simple glitch but I'll have to wait until Monday morning to see.
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| googol (495hp) | Quote: Originally posted by nal13 I started the car this morning to warm it up and a transmission malfunction warning popped up with an icon to schedule an immediate service appointment. I turned the car off and on again to find the same message. The third time the message went out. I called my SA and he told me to drive the car to the dealership if possible or he would send a tow. The dealership is only about 10 miles away and I can get there via back roads, no highway required. I decided to drive the car and it is now in the dealer's service area. I'm on loan 328 right now, but come on!!!! 300 miles traveled carefully and now this? Anyone else with similar experience. I had a 2011 550i and the transmission malfunction warning light came on frequently (more than it should). Many times it was nothing and he bit himself after the car was turned off and back on. Once the fuel pump needed to be replaced and another time the clutch needed to be replaced (it was a 6 speed MT). The good news was never paid a cent with the guarantee but it is very inconvenient and annoying. As another said, I think it's really the luck of the draw (I hope).
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| 181096 (867hp) | Without knowing what turns this light on, keep in mind that the transmission is made up of both many mechanical elements AND many electronic sensors to monitor and activate the elements...it may not be a problem at all. mechanical problem, as evidenced by your ability to drive it to the dealership. On my vehicle I had two electrical problems, resolved under warranty: the electronic parking brake switch was defective almost from the first day after delivery to Germany, and about a year later I had problems with the electronic switch that opens the tailgate. In this case there were no problems and I was able to continue driving the vehicle, but both were repaired and the problem did not recur. I have a little over a year left in the warranty and I hope everything else shows up too before that happens. Our BMW cars are far more electronically complex than probably anything else we own...it's a credit to the manufacturer that they don't break something more often.!
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| 111222333q (481hp) | Nal13 - sorry to hear this news. Let us know what they find. I'm guessing it's minor - more likely a bad sensor or electronic part with only 300 miles than something mechanical.
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| 130987 (578hp) | I just received a call from BMW customer service. It's a fuel injector problem and at least one needs to be replaced. They will have the part on Wednesday and I should pick up the car in the afternoon. I hope this is the only problem I have with this car..
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| mariola (476hp) | When I ordered my 2001 325i (navigation was all new for that year in the 3 - no car on any lot had it) I went to pick up the car and it had DSC and a brake light on from PICK-UP. with 14 miles on the clock. I was younger and definitely misinformed (it was my first BMW). The CA told me it was normal when the blah blah blah was whatever... I don't even remember his excuse right now, but I should have put two and two together, ALL light on the dashboard is generally a bad sign. Then again, every time I spoke to my CA, he kept calling me by the wrong name too - distracted guy. Long story short, I picked up the car, drove it 100 miles home (I got it from another dealer who was able to get a better deal), then immediately sent it to my dealer local where it would continue to be maintained for the rest, that's 6 years with me. It turned out to be a bad wheel sensor - nothing more. But it gave me the idea to start my experience with BMW and my new 325i. Well the car stayed with me for 6 years and 125,000 miles. There were minor issues here and there - mostly common things for an e46 - blower resistor motors, window seal creaks, etc. The most serious problem it ever had was an oil separator well over 100,000 miles. The point is, I wouldn't let that worry you. Some cars, like my 325i, that start out with problems end up being rock solid. So, maybe I would consider that good luck! You solved the first problem, and maybe that paved the way for a nice, solid ownership experience..
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| ilovegreen (704hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass. So, maybe I would consider that good luck! You solved the first problem, and maybe that paved the way for a nice, solid ownership experience. Thank you for the words of encouragement.
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| aiden123 (806hp) | I just got my car back. The one faulty fuel injector was replaced and I hope this will be my one and only problem with this car. I felt dizzy when I got behind the wheel again, like a kid in a candy store. It really is an awesome machine..
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| 210986 (866hp) | It's good to know you got it back!
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| chippie (765hp) | Hello everyone, I'm an E90 guy but recently I drove my dad's CTS and it was actually pretty cool. It wasn't as sporty as the 3 but the comfort was much better. I suppose this remains true for BMW and its 5 series. My question is that as I like a little more luxury, I then think about a 5 series. So my question is: is anyone from a series of three and if so, do you regret your decision? Thanks for reading!
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| love999 (974hp) | I had a 2009 e90, and now a 2013 f10. Waaay more luxury and refinement in the f10. Not as sporty or easy to carry, but I don't regret that decision at all. The 5 is a great car.
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| 1jayden (463hp) | I came from an old 3 series (2005 E46 sedan) and now have a 2011 535i M-Sport. Although I miss the sportiness of my ZHP 6 speed, I am in love with my F10. Great all-around car, and even with the smaller engine it has enough power for my needs.
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| rubyruby (365hp) | I had an e92 then a B8-S4. My wife and I now drive F10s. Refinement and comfort are way ahead of the 3 Series. I was just in a 3 Series F30 loaner for the last three days and there's really no comparison between the two. Don't get me wrong, the F30 is a great machine, but you're dealing with a different beast when you move up a class..
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| PYE46M3 (975hp) | I owned 3 series cars for 13 years (e46 and e90) and now have an f10 550xi. A few points I can share - take them for what they're worth as they are largely my opinion, and others may disagree: 1. Driving The 3 Series is a fun car, and The 5 is certainly bigger, but I don't buy the misconception that the 5 is less of a sports sedan, won't be fun, or isn't just as capable of being tossed around. So far I have found the 5 to be an AMAZING car in terms of performance. The wider stance takes a little getting used to, but in my daily dynamic driving I found no limitations. It's not like I come around a corner and say, Damn, I better slow this down - my 3 might do it, but the 5 can't. This is simply not the case. If you've seen some of my other reviews/articles on the 5, you'll know that I'm a big fan of the Dynamic Handling Package (DHP). In many ways I feel like the 550xi I now own handles BETTER than my 335i with sport suspension thanks to the DHP. The active anti-roll stabilization makes the car feel like 1,000 pounds lighter than it really is, and I was able to throw it pretty hard into a corner, and the car just stays FLAT. My 335 (and previous 325 e46s) would clearly roll if asked to do the same, especially after years of stressing over passive suspensions. The DHP's active dampers are also amazing. You can make the car stiff and tight or comfortable – your choice with just one click. It sounds like you like the convenience side, which means you'll like this system. When you want the car to feel more like your old 3 with a sports suspension, click it into Sport or Sport+ mode, and off you go. Long story short, I think DHP is probably THE best option that can be installed on a 5 Series to improve the driving experience. You'll also notice that it's a heavier car with more road presence. The 3 tends to blow on the highway with some side winds, can bounce on the ground with rough surfaces, etc. - not so much with the 5. It gives me a little more presence, which makes the car feel flatter. foot at high speed. 2. Technology The technology of the 5 is to die for. Plain and simple, it's like a spaceship. It's just a matter of knowing how much you want or can afford, as much of it is optional. I almost loaded the car because I couldn't decide. The luxury seating option with active seats and ventilation is nice. ACC Stop and Go is essential if you plan to drive on congested highways and take longer journeys. The Driver Assistance Plus package is also very interesting. Head-up display. Soft close doors. Automatic tailgate. LED lights. Cameras, cameras and MORE cameras... I think I've already counted 8 or 9 cameras on this car, all with varying purposes: helping you park, seeing cross traffic, automatically reading road signs, etc. . BMW ConnectedDrive is also great from what I've seen so far: stream music of your choice, control the car remotely (locking, unlocking, vehicle location, ventilation, etc.) from your smartphone, concierge services , sending addresses from Google to your navigation system, e-mail /texts/FB/twitter directly in the car, voice dictation, etc. The list is long. The technology in the Series 5 is huge. I had fun just reading the manual. This will make you go, whoa...no way.
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| gamers1 (49hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass I have owned 3 series cars for 13 years (e46 and e90) and now have an f10 550xi. A few points I can share - take them for what they're worth as they are largely my opinion, and others may disagree: 1. Driving The 3 Series is a fun car, and The 5 is certainly bigger, but I don't buy the misconception that the 5 is less of a sports sedan, won't be fun, or isn't just as capable of being tossed around. So far I have found the 5 to be an AMAZING car in terms of performance. The wider stance takes a little getting used to, but in my daily dynamic driving I found no limitations. It's not like I come around a corner and say, Damn, I better slow this down - my 3 might do it, but the 5 can't. This is simply not the case. If you've seen some of my other reviews/articles on the 5, you'll know that I'm a big fan of the Dynamic Handling Package (DHP). In many ways I feel like the 550xi I now own handles BETTER than my 335i with sport suspension thanks to the DHP. The active anti-roll stabilization makes the car feel like 1,000 pounds lighter than it actually is, and I was able to throw it pretty hard into a corner, and the car just stays FLAT. My 335 (and previous 325 e46s) would clearly roll if asked to do the same, especially after years of stressing over passive suspensions. The DHP's active dampers are also amazing. You can make the car stiff and tight or comfortable – your choice with just one click. It sounds like you like the convenience side, which means you'll like this system. When you want the car to feel more like your old 3 with a sports suspension, click it into Sport or Sport+ mode, and off you go. Long story short, I think DHP is probably THE best option that can be installed on a 5 Series to improve the driving experience. You'll also notice that it's a heavier car with more road presence. The 3 tends to blow on the highway with some side winds, can bounce on the ground with rough surfaces, etc. - not so much with the 5. It gives me a little more presence, which makes the car feel flatter. foot at high speed. 2. Technology The technology of the 5 is to die for. Plain and simple, it's like a spaceship. It's just a matter of knowing how much you want or can afford, as much of it is optional. I almost loaded the car because I couldn't decide. The luxury seating option with active seats and ventilation is nice. ACC Stop and Go is essential if you plan to drive on congested highways and take longer journeys. The Driver Assistance Plus package is also very interesting. Head-up display. Soft close doors. Automatic tailgate. LED lights. Cameras, cameras and MORE cameras... I think I've already counted 8 or 9 cameras on this car, all with varying purposes: helping you park, seeing cross traffic, automatically reading road signs, etc. . BMW ConnectedDrive is also great from what I've seen so far: stream music of your choice, control the car remotely (locking, unlocking, vehicle location, ventilation, etc.) from your smartphone, concierge services , sending addresses from Google to your navigation system, e-mail /texts/FB/twitter directly in the car, voice dictation, etc. The list is long. The technology in the Series 5 is huge. I had fun just reading the manual..
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| fuckyou89 (719hp) | Hello everyone, I'm an E90 guy but recently I drove my dad's CTS and it was actually pretty cool. It wasn't as sporty as the 3 but the comfort was much better. I suppose this remains true for BMW and its 5 series. My question is that as I like a little more luxury, I then think about a 5 series. So my question is: is anyone from a series of three and if so, do you regret your decision? Thanks for reading!
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| ambri (833hp) | I had a 2009 e90, and now a 2013 f10. Waaay more luxury and refinement in the f10. Not as sporty or easy to carry, but I don't regret that decision at all. The 5 is a great car.
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| eastside2 (499hp) | I came from an old 3 series (2005 E46 sedan) and now have a 2011 535i M-Sport. Although I miss the sportiness of my ZHP 6 speed, I am in love with my F10. Great all-around car, and even with the smaller engine it has enough power for my needs.
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| compact (242hp) | I had an e92 then a B8-S4. My wife and I now drive F10s. Refinement and comfort are way ahead of the 3 Series. I was just in a 3 Series F30 loaner for the last three days and there's really no comparison between the two. Don't get me wrong, the F30 is a great machine, but you're dealing with a different beast when you move up a class..
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| miranda123 (728hp) | I have owned 3 series cars for 13 years (e46 and e90) and now have an f10 550xi. A few points I can share - take them for what they're worth as they are largely my opinion, and others may disagree: 1. Driving The 3 Series is a fun car, and The 5 is certainly bigger, but I don't buy the misconception that the 5 is less of a sports sedan, won't be fun, or isn't just as capable of being tossed around. So far I have found the 5 to be an AMAZING car in terms of performance. The wider stance takes a little getting used to, but in my daily dynamic driving I found no limitations. It's not like I come around a corner and say, Damn, I better slow this down - my 3 might do it, but the 5 can't. This is simply not the case. If you've seen some of my other reviews/articles on the 5, you'll know that I'm a big fan of the Dynamic Handling Package (DHP). In many ways I feel like the 550xi I now own handles BETTER than my 335i with sport suspension thanks to the DHP. The active anti-roll stabilization makes the car feel like 1,000 pounds lighter than it actually is, and I was able to throw it pretty hard into a corner, and the car just stays FLAT. My 335 (and previous 325 e46s) would clearly roll if asked to do the same, especially after years of stressing over passive suspensions. The DHP's active dampers are also amazing. You can make the car stiff and tight or comfortable – your choice with just one click. It sounds like you like the convenience side, which means you'll like this system. When you want the car to feel more like your old 3 with a sports suspension, click it into Sport or Sport+ mode, and off you go. Long story short, I think DHP is probably THE best option that can be installed on a 5 Series to improve the driving experience. You'll also notice that it's a heavier car with more road presence. The 3 tends to blow on the highway with some side winds, can bounce on the ground with rough surfaces, etc. - not so much with the 5. It gives me a little more presence, which makes the car feel flatter. foot at high speed. 2. Technology The technology of the 5 is to die for. Plain and simple, it's like a spaceship. It's just a matter of knowing how much you want or can afford, as much of it is optional. I almost loaded the car because I couldn't decide. The luxury seating option with active seats and ventilation is nice. ACC Stop and Go is essential if you plan to drive on congested highways and take longer journeys. The Driver Assistance Plus package is also very interesting. Head-up display. Soft close doors. Automatic tailgate. LED lights. Cameras, cameras and MORE cameras... I think I've already counted 8 or 9 cameras on this car, all with varying purposes: helping you park, seeing cross traffic, automatically reading road signs, etc. . BMW ConnectedDrive is also great from what I've seen so far: stream music of your choice, control the car remotely (locking, unlocking, vehicle location, ventilation, etc.) from your smartphone, concierge services , sending addresses from Google to your navigation system, e-mail /texts/FB/twitter directly in the car, voice dictation, etc. The list is long. The technology in the Series 5 is huge. I had fun just reading the manual. This will make you go, whoa...no way.
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| foreveryou (909hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass I have owned 3 series cars for 13 years (e46 and e90) and now have an f10 550xi. A few points I can share - take them for what they're worth as they are largely my opinion, and others may disagree: 1. Driving The 3 Series is a fun car, and The 5 is certainly bigger, but I don't buy the misconception that the 5 is less of a sports sedan, won't be fun, or isn't just as capable of being tossed around. So far I have found the 5 to be an AMAZING car in terms of performance. The wider stance takes a little getting used to, but in my daily dynamic driving I found no limitations. It's not like I come around a corner and say, Damn, I better slow this down - my 3 might do it, but the 5 can't. This is simply not the case. If you've seen some of my other reviews/articles on the 5, you'll know that I'm a big fan of the Dynamic Handling Package (DHP). In many ways I feel like the 550xi I now own handles BETTER than my 335i with sport suspension thanks to the DHP. The active anti-roll stabilization makes the car feel like 1,000 pounds lighter than it really is, and I was able to throw it pretty hard into a corner, and the car just stays FLAT. My 335 (and previous 325 e46s) would clearly roll if asked to do the same, especially after years of stressing over passive suspensions. The DHP's active dampers are also amazing. You can make the car stiff and tight or comfortable – your choice with just one click. It sounds like you like the convenience side, which means you'll like this system. When you want the car to feel more like your old 3 with a sports suspension, click it into Sport or Sport+ mode, and off you go. Long story short, I think DHP is probably THE best option that can be installed on a 5 Series to improve the driving experience. You'll also notice that it's a heavier car with more road presence. The 3 tends to blow on the highway with some side winds, can bounce on the ground with rough surfaces, etc. - not so much with the 5. It gives me a little more presence, which makes the car feel flatter. foot at high speed. 2. Technology The technology of the 5 is to die for. Plain and simple, it's like a spaceship. It's just a matter of knowing how much you want or can afford, as much of it is optional. I almost loaded the car because I couldn't decide. The luxury seating option with active seats and ventilation is nice. ACC Stop and Go is essential if you plan to drive on congested highways and take longer journeys. The Driver Assistance Plus package is also very interesting. Head-up display. Soft close doors. Automatic tailgate. LED lights. Cameras, cameras and MORE cameras... I think I've already counted 8 or 9 cameras on this car, all with varying purposes: helping you park, seeing cross traffic, automatically reading road signs, etc. . BMW ConnectedDrive is also great from what I've seen so far: stream music of your choice, control the car remotely (locking, unlocking, vehicle location, ventilation, etc.) from your smartphone, concierge services , sending addresses from Google to your navigation system, e-mail /texts/FB/twitter directly in the car, voice dictation, etc. The list is long. The technology in the Series 5 is huge. I had fun just reading the manual..
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| eminem. (123hp) | So today I took the 550xi for a trip of about 200 miles - visiting family for the day. I had the chance to ride some beautiful back roads, highways, and winding parkways. What an explosion! DHP: First of all, let me just say that dynamic management is AMAZING. For those who live in the New York metropolitan area and have EVER traveled I-684 through Westchester County, you know that this highway is a complete selling point in terms of road quality. There are several miles of completely broken concrete, creating many uneven surfaces. My 335i with normal sport suspension was bouncing sideways on a lot of this mess... making the ride jerky, uncomfortable and grindy. Even my Audi Q5 jumps a bit on it despite it being an SUV with lots of cushion. Well, the 550's Comfort shocks made all the difference. Even with the RFTs, the ride was comfortable, controlled and confidence-inspiring. The car never floated, or jumped, or even felt a moment's discomfort. I switched to Sport mode to check the difference, and it was clear. In Sport, the car has tightened up enough that the ride feels familiar - still not as bad as the 335i, but clearly equally bumpy territory. When I took short two-lane rides, the sport mode was great. The car was sharper in the steering, firmer in the suspension and more responsive in the throttle. And as for the anti-roll, I can't say enough good things about what BMW has done here. This system is truly amazing. While it won't completely eliminate body roll if you really throw the car, in spirited driving conditions it will corner almost flat...just to make me smile at every turn. Ultimately, if you're looking to buy a 5 and aren't sure (like I was) about a typical stiff passive sport suspension or DHP, I'd definitely go with DHP. It truly gives you two cars in one: comfortable and quiet when you want it, and sporty and responsive when you need it. I have a feeling we're going to see BMW eventually phase out passive suspensions altogether in the coming years. This may also explain why they stopped offering the M Sport suspension on the 5 - assuming you opt for DHP over standard. I'm sure others may differ (and have valid reasons) - but for me, this car's DHP is shaping up to be one of the best features. Luxury Seats: I also spent some time playing with the Active Seats and Ventilated Seats, both part of the Luxury Seating package. The active seats were surprisingly good at their job. I was a little tired of them doing little more than poking my butt, but I have to say they work as advertised. The seat moves slowly, lifting your left cheek, then your right, and so on. These small changes in elevation really prevent your muscles from settling and possibly cramping. Although I drove a decent amount today, I'm curious to see how it works on a much longer trip and will report back. But if you do a lot of driving, this may actually be a good option to consider. Ventilated seats? I guess they do what they say. It's winter and I'm wearing clothes that are probably too thick to properly measure their effectiveness, but they give off a slight breeze from the perforations in the seat, which I imagine on a very hot day will be considerably more intense than on 'a winter day. LED lighting: I also tried the!
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| south1 (516hp) | Well done!! Great reviews, buddy! I'm about to order a 550ix and your reviews have been EXTREMELY helpful! THANKS! Good luck to you.
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| 10121992 (923hp) | GOOD!
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| maremare (590hp) | Pretty crazy!!! You're a little jealous. I have a question. I'm 18 years old, I just finished my first car which was an e60. My father is buying me my next car, which is a BMW F10. I'm looking at a 2011 BMW 535i, quite loaded with an MSRP of $67,000. It has an M Sport exterior, jet black, black Dakota leather. From the photos this car has the sport/comfort setting for the suspension. Does this mean the car has a dynamic handling package or an M sports suspension? I looked up the VIN on a BMW site, and it says I have Here is a photo of the sticker. And what the site told me. In the photo on the site, look at 2,3 and 6. Is this the large suspension you are talking about? Is it the same on the '11? I've heard complaints about the ride of the 2011 5 Series, but I was never sure if they were talking about this suspension setup on my possible next car, or the standard suspension..
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| 0741020 (271hp) | Here is the sticker for this specific car
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| lexi123 (476hp) | Boss – from the photo you posted I would say the car is equipped with DHP. The interior of every 5 is equipped with a comfort/sport toggle switch - so you can't go alone in the photos. For cars without DHP, the toggle switch can adjust the transmission (throttle and steering) but not the chassis (shocks). For cars WITH DHP, the toggle switch can be configured to adjust the transmission AND chassis. The toggle switch's iDrive settings menu will allow you to choose, for each setting, whether you want the drivetrain and chassis to be affected by the mode. But again, from the gear you show here, it appears to have DHP. You can always ask the seller for confirmation - if it's from a BMW dealership, they can easily tell you. Now, whether DHP is the same on an '11 as it is on a '14, I don't know. Maybe someone can comment there. My car is a '14, so I can't comment on how DHP feels on a '11. Like many systems, especially with LCI, things may have been improved or tweaked - keep in mind that the F10 was also introduced in 2011 and many systems will see changes from year to year. I know the standard suspension was changed for the LCI model year (2014). I have driven the standard pre-LCI and LCI suspension and can say the feel is different (better for the LCI) as well as significantly improved steering. Good luck in your search.
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| seo12345 (504hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass Boss - from the photo you posted I would say the car is equipped with DHP. The interior of every 5 is equipped with a comfort/sport toggle switch - so you can't go alone in the photos. For cars without DHP, the toggle switch can adjust the transmission (throttle and steering) but not the chassis (shocks). For cars WITH DHP, the toggle switch can be configured to adjust the transmission AND chassis. The toggle switch's iDrive settings menu will allow you to choose, for each setting, whether you want the drivetrain and chassis to be affected by the mode. But again, from the gear you show here, it appears to have DHP. You can always ask the seller for confirmation - if it's from a BMW dealership, they can easily tell you. Now, whether DHP is the same on an '11 as it is on a '14, I don't know. Maybe someone can comment there. My car is a '14, so I can't comment on how DHP feels on a '11. Like many systems, especially with LCI, things may have been improved or tweaked - keep in mind that the F10 was also introduced in 2011 and many systems will see changes from year to year. I know the standard suspension was changed for the LCI model year (2014). I have driven the standard pre-LCI and LCI suspension and can say the feel is different (better for the LCI) as well as significantly improved steering. Good luck in your search. I understand what you are saying. The car comes from a private seller. How do I ask him to check? Give me all the details step by step. By the way, thank you for your detailed answer, very very useful!
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| reece1 (155hp) | Quote: Posted by BossBeamer Quote: Posted by ezmaass Boss - based on the photo you posted, I would say the car is equipped with DHP. The interior of every 5 is equipped with a comfort/sport toggle switch - so you can't go alone in the photos. For cars without DHP, the toggle switch can adjust the transmission (throttle and steering) but not the chassis (shocks). For cars WITH DHP, the toggle switch can be configured to adjust the transmission AND chassis. The toggle switch's iDrive settings menu will allow you to choose, for each setting, whether you want the drivetrain and chassis to be affected by the mode. But again, from the gear you show here, it appears to have DHP. You can always ask the seller for confirmation - if it's from a BMW dealership, they can easily tell you. Now, whether DHP is the same on an '11 as it is on a '14, I don't know. Maybe someone can comment there. My car is a '14, so I can't comment on how DHP feels on a '11. Like many systems, especially with LCI, things may have been improved or tweaked - keep in mind that the F10 was also introduced in 2011 and many systems will see changes from year to year. I know the standard suspension was changed for the LCI model year (2014). I have driven the standard pre-LCI and LCI suspension and can say the feel is different (better for the LCI) as well as significantly improved steering. Good luck in your search. I understand what you are saying. The car comes from a private seller. How do I ask him to check? Give me all the details step by step. By the way, thank you for your detailed answer, very very useful! The 2011 and 2014 DBHs are the same. In this photo, the dynamic transmission is DDC (sport, normal and comfort). Adaptive drive is active roll stabilization, where it reduces body roll when cornering. I have DHP on my 2011 and it says the exact same thing. If you are unsure just look under the car at the rear stabilizer bar, right in the middle is a black box that controls the stabilizer bars. http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...ide-e39-2.html. Go to message #19. Cars without ARS have a long continuous bar. Nice review, ezmass. You should try comfort vs sport mode if you're driving through Soho in New York. These paved roads are an incredible test. In the sport you will feel every brick and it is very bumpy. Shocks, comfort and bumps will disappear and feel very smooth, it's like driving on a flat road. This always impresses my friends. Enjoy the car .
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| kishor (60hp) | Way to divert the OP's thread..... Lol
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| warfare (116hp) | Is DHP exactly the same as the Adaptive Drive option available in the UK? I recently ordered a 530d with AD for delivery March 14, and it's great to hear recent opinions on how owners perceive the active suspension..
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| asd654 (506hp) | fseyyad - I'm not sure how the packages and/or their names might differ from those in the US. There is a package here in the United States called the Dynamic Handling Package (DHP). From the description, BMW says that DHP is essentially an adaptive driving system. Adaptive Drive is the combination of active roll stabilization and dynamic dampers. At least that's what you read on the website when configuring a car. So, just keep in mind that there are two pieces to the puzzle: anti-roll + dynamic dampers. I know you in the UK have the option to purchase many options separately without packages - so perhaps you should just check with your CA, or another UK member can comment here.
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| iloveu8 (876hp) | ezmaass - yes, the adaptive player is definitely these 2 components. it was simply a question of whether there was anything additional included in the DHP. What can you say about the ride height of the car? is this modified by DHP vs normal or M sport. And we don't have the option of all-wheel drive in the UK, so that's something we're denied..
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| cougars (64hp) | Nice review, seats sound great for long trips. Quote: Originally posted by fseyyad ezmaass - yes, the adaptive player is definitely those 2 components. it was simply a question of whether there was anything additional included in the DHP. What can you say about the ride height of the car? is this modified by DHP vs normal or M sport. And we don't have the option of all-wheel drive in the UK, so that's something we're denied. I believe only the M-Sport suspension lowers the car by 10mm.
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| ball12 (233hp) | fseyyad - That's a good question - I'm not sure there is anything other than Adaptive Drive in the DHP. You know, there's so much marketing at play in these names that it really muddies the facts. From what I can tell, though, it's just the two systems: anti-roll and electronic dampers. As for the ride height, it's not great. I tend to leave my cars stock and the wheel spacing on the DHP setup works for me. That doesn't sound ridiculous, but it's also not as low as many on these forums would like. I guess it's a personal preference. You can see the photos I posted in my thread on Tuesday when I picked up the car. If you're the type who needs the car low to the ground (see the photo of remmib's sig block as an example), the looks of the DHP system probably won't make you happy. I don't know if you can swap the springs for something lower without affecting the system? Maybe someone who has done this (or looked into it) can comment there. On another note, day three today featured a bit of snow driving. We've already had the first inch today with about 8-12 expected tonight into tomorrow. I had to run some errands, so I took the 550xi out for a spin. OK, so it's now officially dirty due to slushy roads, but hey, that's what happens in winter! The xDrive worked well. It gripped perfectly and I could feel a tire here and there come loose from a dead stop when trying to turn and/or go up a hill. Each time, the system hooked up and seemed to effectively adjust torque to tires with traction. I can't wait to see how it performs in deeper snow...especially since I'm a little disappointed with my Q5's quattro system. This car is heavy, though, and it shows when you lose traction when stopping. I approached a stop on an unplowed road where the ABS engaged, and you can definitely feel the added weight of this car as it slides. I played a little with the heated steering wheel: I could take it or leave it. Even though it heats the wheel, it seems a bit unnecessary to me. I know others, however, who claim they can't live without it. Finally, today I came across the iDrive screen which shows the power and torque dials - quite new. I'm not sure this is useful, but it's a nice little new feature. She is now warm and resting in the garage.... waiting for the snow to arrive. Hopefully we won't get as much as they predict, but it's also supposed to get down to -5 degrees as well...brrrr. As if blowing snow wasn't bad enough, I hate it even more when I'm literally freezing. Use caution if driving in the NE today/tomorrow.
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| babyboys (121hp) | I really miss DHP on my new 2014 550Xi, I had it on my last 2011 740i, the new 2014 Msport 550xi doesn't handle as well as my old 740i. they should make DHP a must-have with the Msport option on XI at least. well...i need to improve the handling of the car by modifying the springs and stabilizer bars.
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| monikaayers (518hp) | Quote: Originally posted by audiogolf I really miss having DHP on my new 2014 550Xi, I had it on my last 2011 740i, the new 2014 Msport 550xi doesn't handle as well as my old 740i. they should make DHP a must-have with the Msport option on XI at least. well...i need to improve the handling of the car by modifying the springs and stabilizer bars. I agree with you. I am now a strong supporter of the DHP...I can become the spokesperson for the DHP if they let me. You feel day and night with the standard suspension. I couldn't consider the M Sport suspension due to my desire for an xDrive car (not available), but my previous 335i had a sport suspension, so I have a good idea of what I'm missing with a passive sport setup . I truly believe that DHP is superior to anything passive. Adjustable dampers may be considered creature comforts by proponents of passive sports suspension (since the M Sport suspension is quite good as far as suspensions go), but active roll anti-roll is another thing entirely and cannot be matched with nothing. passive. In a corner it really shines!
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| N0_Hesi_F10 (557hp) | So today I took the 550xi for a trip of about 200 miles - visiting family for the day. I had the chance to ride some beautiful back roads, highways, and winding parkways. What an explosion! DHP: First of all, let me just say that dynamic management is AMAZING. For those who live in the New York metropolitan area and have EVER traveled I-684 through Westchester County, you know that this highway is a complete selling point in terms of road quality. There are several miles of completely broken concrete, creating many uneven surfaces. My 335i with normal sport suspension was bouncing sideways on a lot of this mess... making the ride jerky, uncomfortable and grindy. Even my Audi Q5 jumps a bit on it despite it being an SUV with lots of cushion. Well, the 550's Comfort shocks made all the difference. Even with the RFTs, the ride was comfortable, controlled and confidence-inspiring. The car never floated, jumped, or even felt for a moment uncomfortable. I switched to Sport mode to check the difference, and it was clear. In Sport, the car has tightened up enough that the ride feels familiar - still not as bad as the 335i, but clearly equally bumpy territory. When I took short two-lane rides, the sport mode was great. The car was sharper in the steering, firmer in the suspension and more responsive in the throttle. And as for the anti-roll, I can't say enough good things about what BMW has done here. This system is truly amazing. While it won't completely eliminate body roll if you really throw the car, in spirited driving conditions it will corner almost flat...just to make me smile at every turn. Ultimately, if you're looking to buy a 5 and aren't sure (like I was) about a typical stiff passive sport suspension or DHP, I'd definitely go with DHP. It truly gives you two cars in one: comfortable and quiet when you want it, and sporty and responsive when you need it. I have a feeling we're going to see BMW eventually phase out passive suspensions altogether in the coming years. This may also explain why they stopped offering the M Sport suspension on the 5 - assuming you opt for DHP over standard. I'm sure others may differ (and have valid reasons) - but for me, this car's DHP is shaping up to be one of the best features. Luxury Seats: I also spent some time playing with the Active Seats and Ventilated Seats, both part of the Luxury Seating package. The active seats were surprisingly good at their job. I was a little tired of them doing little more than poking my butt, but I have to say they work as advertised. The seat moves slowly, lifting your left cheek, then your right, and so on. These small changes in elevation really prevent your muscles from settling and possibly cramping. Although I drove a decent amount today, I'm curious to see how it works on a much longer trip and will report back. But if you do a lot of driving, this may actually be a good option to consider. Ventilated seats? I guess they do what they say. It's winter and I'm wearing clothes that are probably too thick to properly measure their effectiveness, but they give off a slight breeze from the perforations in the seat, which I imagine on a very hot day will be considerably more intense than on 'a winter day. LED lighting: I also have!
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| carlinha (798hp) | Well done!! Great reviews, buddy! I'm about to order a 550ix and your reviews have been EXTREMELY helpful! THANKS! Good luck to you.
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| rudy123 (783hp) | GOOD!
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| ansyn (817hp) | Pretty crazy!!! You're a little jealous. I have a question. I'm 18 years old, I just finished my first car which was an e60. My father is buying me my next car, which is a BMW F10. I'm looking at a 2011 BMW 535i, quite loaded with an MSRP of $67,000. It has an M Sport exterior, jet black, black Dakota leather. From the photos this car has the sport/comfort setting for the suspension. Does this mean the car has a dynamic handling package or an M sports suspension? I looked up the VIN on a BMW site, and it says I have Here is a photo of the sticker. And what the site told me. In the photo on the site, look at 2,3 and 6. Is this the large suspension you are talking about? Is it the same on the '11? I've heard complaints about the ride of the 2011 5 Series, but I was never sure if they were talking about this suspension setup on my possible next car, or the standard suspension..
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| 147852963 (41hp) | Here is the sticker for this specific car
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| austin22 (541hp) | Boss - from the photo you posted I would say the car is equipped with DHP. The interior of every 5 is equipped with a comfort/sport toggle switch - so you can't go alone in the photos. For cars without DHP, the toggle switch can adjust the transmission (throttle and steering) but not the chassis (shocks). For cars WITH DHP, the toggle switch can be configured to adjust the transmission AND chassis. The toggle switch's iDrive settings menu will allow you to choose, for each setting, whether you want the drivetrain and chassis to be affected by the mode. But again, from the gear you show here, it appears to have DHP. You can always ask the seller for confirmation - if it's from a BMW dealership, they can easily tell you. Now, whether DHP is the same on an '11 as it is on a '14, I don't know. Maybe someone can comment there. My car is a '14, so I can't comment on how DHP feels on a '11. Like many systems, especially with LCI, things may have been improved or tweaked - keep in mind that the F10 was also introduced in 2011 and many systems will see changes from year to year. I know the standard suspension was changed for the LCI model year (2014). I have driven the standard pre-LCI and LCI suspension and can say the feel is different (better for the LCI) as well as significantly improved steering. Good luck in your search.
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| feifei (277hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass Boss - from the photo you posted I would say the car is equipped with DHP. The interior of every 5 is equipped with a comfort/sport toggle switch - so you can't go alone in the photos. For cars without DHP, the toggle switch can adjust the transmission (throttle and steering) but not the chassis (shocks). For cars WITH DHP, the toggle switch can be configured to adjust the transmission AND chassis. The toggle switch's iDrive settings menu will allow you to choose, for each setting, whether you want the drivetrain and chassis to be affected by the mode. But again, from the gear you show here, it appears to have DHP. You can always ask the seller for confirmation - if it's from a BMW dealership, they can easily tell you. Now, whether DHP is the same on an '11 as it is on a '14, I don't know. Maybe someone can comment there. My car is a '14, so I can't comment on how DHP feels on a '11. Like many systems, especially with LCI, things may have been improved or tweaked - keep in mind that the F10 was also introduced in 2011 and many systems will see changes from year to year. I know the standard suspension was changed for the LCI model year (2014). I have driven the standard pre-LCI and LCI suspension and can say the feel is different (better for the LCI) as well as significantly improved steering. Good luck in your search. I understand what you are saying. The car comes from a private seller. How do I ask him to check? Give me all the details step by step. By the way, thank you for your detailed answer, very very useful!
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| lyle (503hp) | Quote: Posted by BossBeamer Quote: Posted by ezmaass Boss - based on the photo you posted, I would say the car is equipped with DHP. The interior of every 5 is equipped with a comfort/sport toggle switch - so you can't go alone in the photos. For cars without DHP, the toggle switch can adjust the transmission (throttle and steering) but not the chassis (shocks). For cars WITH DHP, the toggle switch can be configured to adjust the transmission AND chassis. The toggle switch's iDrive settings menu will allow you to choose, for each setting, whether you want the drivetrain and chassis to be affected by the mode. But again, from the gear you show here, it appears to have DHP. You can always ask the seller for confirmation - if it's from a BMW dealership, they can easily tell you. Now, whether DHP is the same on an '11 as it is on a '14, I don't know. Maybe someone can comment there. My car is a '14, so I can't comment on how DHP feels on a '11. Like many systems, especially with LCI, things may have been improved or tweaked - keep in mind that the F10 was also introduced in 2011 and many systems will see changes from year to year. I know the standard suspension was changed for the LCI model year (2014). I have driven the standard pre-LCI and LCI suspension and can say the feel is different (better for the LCI) as well as significantly improved steering. Good luck in your search. I understand what you are saying. The car comes from a private seller. How do I ask him to check? Give me all the details step by step. By the way, thank you for your detailed answer, very very useful! The 2011 and 2014 DBHs are the same. In this photo, the dynamic transmission is DDC (sport, normal and comfort). Adaptive drive is active roll stabilization, where it reduces body roll when cornering. I have DHP on my 2011 and it says the exact same thing. If you are unsure just look under the car at the rear stabilizer bar, right in the middle is a black box that controls the stabilizer bars. http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...ide-e39-2.html. Go to message #19. Cars without ARS have a long continuous bar. Nice review, ezmass. You should try comfort vs sport mode if you're driving through Soho in New York. These paved roads are an incredible test. In the sport you will feel every brick and it is very bumpy. Shocks, comfort and bumps will disappear and feel very smooth, it's like driving on a flat road. This always impresses my friends. Enjoy the car .
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| 140776 (985hp) | Way to divert the OP's thread..... Lol
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| azerty11 (116hp) | Is DHP exactly the same as the Adaptive Drive option available in the UK? I recently ordered a 530d with AD for delivery March 14, and it's great to hear recent opinions on how owners perceive the active suspension..
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| 180478 (309hp) | fseyyad - I'm not sure how the packages and/or their names might differ from those in the US. There is a package here in the United States called the Dynamic Handling Package (DHP). From the description, BMW says that DHP is essentially an adaptive driving system. Adaptive Drive is the combination of active roll stabilization and dynamic dampers. At least that's what you read on the website when configuring a car. So, just keep in mind that there are two pieces to the puzzle: anti-roll + dynamic dampers. I know you in the UK have the option to purchase many options separately without packages - so perhaps you should just check with your CA, or another UK member can comment here.
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| ashton123 (302hp) | ezmaass - yes, the adaptive player is definitely these 2 components. it was simply a question of whether there was anything additional included in the DHP. What can you say about the ride height of the car? is this modified by DHP vs normal or M sport. And we don't have the option of all-wheel drive in the UK, so that's something we're denied..
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| steeve13m (176hp) | Nice review, seats sound great for long trips. Quote: Originally posted by fseyyad ezmaass - yes, the adaptive player is definitely those 2 components. it was simply a question of whether there was anything additional included in the DHP. What can you say about the ride height of the car? is this modified by DHP vs normal or M sport. And we don't have the option of all-wheel drive in the UK, so that's something we're denied. I believe only the M-Sport suspension lowers the car by 10mm.
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| graziano (502hp) | fseyyad - That's a good question - I'm not sure there is anything other than Adaptive Drive in the DHP. You know, there's so much marketing at play in these names that it really muddies the facts. From what I can tell, though, it's just the two systems: anti-roll and electronic dampers. As for the ride height, it's not great. I tend to leave my cars stock and the wheel spacing on the DHP setup works for me. That doesn't sound ridiculous, but it's also not as low as many on these forums would like. I guess it's a personal preference. You can see the photos I posted in my thread on Tuesday when I picked up the car. If you're the type who needs the car low to the ground (see the photo of remmib's sig block as an example), the looks of the DHP system probably won't make you happy. I don't know if you can swap the springs for something lower without affecting the system? Maybe someone who has done this (or looked into it) can comment there. On another note, day three today featured a bit of snow driving. We've already had the first inch today with about 8-12 expected tonight into tomorrow. I had to run some errands, so I took the 550xi out for a spin. OK, so it's now officially dirty due to slush on the roads, but hey, that's what happens in winter! The xDrive worked well. It gripped perfectly and I could feel a tire here and there come loose from a dead stop while trying to turn and/or go up a hill. Each time, the system hooked up and seemed to effectively adjust torque to tires with traction. I can't wait to see how it performs in deeper snow...especially since I'm a little disappointed with my Q5's quattro system. This car is heavy, though, and it shows when you lose traction when stopping. I approached a stop on an unplowed road where the ABS engaged, and you can definitely feel the added weight of this car as it slides. I played a little with the heated steering wheel: I could take it or leave it. Even though it heats the wheel, it seems a bit unnecessary to me. I know others, however, who claim they can't live without it. Finally, today I came across the iDrive screen which shows the power and torque dials - quite new. I'm not sure this is useful, but it's a nice little new feature. She is now warm and resting in the garage.... waiting for the snow to arrive. Hopefully we won't get as much as they predict, but it's also supposed to get down to -5 degrees as well...brrrr. As if blowing snow wasn't bad enough, I hate it even more when I'm literally freezing. Use caution if driving in the NE today/tomorrow.
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| 270793 (609hp) | I really miss DHP on my new 2014 550Xi, I had it on my last 2011 740i, the new 2014 Msport 550xi doesn't handle as well as my old 740i. they should make DHP a must-have with the Msport option on XI at least. well...i need to improve the handling of the car by modifying the springs and stabilizer bars.
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| sharp1 (176hp) | Quote: Originally posted by audiogolf I really miss having DHP on my new 2014 550Xi, I had it on my last 2011 740i, the new 2014 Msport 550xi doesn't handle as well as my old 740i. they should make DHP a must-have with the Msport option on XI at least. well...i need to improve the handling of the car by modifying the springs and stabilizer bars. I agree with you. I am now a strong supporter of the DHP...I can become the spokesperson for the DHP if they let me. You feel day and night with the standard suspension. I couldn't consider the M Sport suspension due to my desire for an xDrive car (not available), but my previous 335i had a sport suspension, so I have a good idea of what I'm missing with a passive sport setup . I truly believe that DHP is superior to anything passive. Adjustable dampers may be considered creature comforts by proponents of passive sports suspension (since the M Sport suspension is quite good as far as suspensions go), but active roll anti-roll is another thing entirely and cannot be matched with nothing. passive. In a corner it really shines!
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| bubba1234 (812hp) | Need help!! has the N55 ever been recalled for this issue?? Some screws are broken naturally. generally 2 years. normal driving. they said it was because the high operating pressure was a design problem. many cars have the same problem in China. 335 535 X5 X6... And they deny it! all repair costs are the responsibility of the customer. does anyone know? here is a photo and a link http://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thre...6325775-1.html
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| Pstephana (987hp) | The link doesn't help without translation
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| en (192hp) | Need help!! has the N55 ever been recalled for this issue?? Some screws are broken naturally. generally 2 years. normal driving. they said it was because the high operating pressure was a design problem. many cars have the same problem in China. 335 535 X5 X6... And they deny it! all repair costs are the responsibility of the customer. does anyone know? here is a photo and a link http://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thre...6325775-1.html
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| chicago7 (690hp) | The link doesn't help without translation
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| 080384 (761hp) | We are picking up our 2014 528i on 7/12/13 and today a guy pulled out in front of my wife to attempt an illegal U-turn. All the airbags in the car went off The front end is smashed - my wife hit the guy's passenger door and a lamp post All the tires remained inflated I think he may have rolled again. More importantly, my wife came away with a small burn on her arm from the airbag - the other guy was driving a 2008 Kia and he went to the hospital. First responders told him it was a serious accident. Oh, she spilled her tea all over the place and her iPhone was demolished (separated screen and bent frame). I believe in the safety of these cars.
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| jeanette (625hp) | Sorry to hear that, hope she's okay
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| andrey1 (769hp) | Wow, I'm glad she's okay. We are all lucky that our cars are very safe.
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| shuttle (3hp) | Seems like a lot to ask but would they total a brand new car because all the airbags went off and the car has front end damage.
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| qazsedc (121hp) | It's never possible to know without proper inspection, but I hope, and would be quite surprised, if this is all total looking at this picture. Sorry if that's not what you were hoping to hear. I am very happy to hear that your wife is doing well. I too am very reassured to know that my wife and children are traveling in a safe and well-designed car. Keep us posted on your progress, good luck!
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| dragon79 (141hp) | I don't think it will be total either. Not good to know the car might not be the same in the next 36 months.
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| 2M (691hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SDf10 Wow, I'm glad she's okay. We are all lucky that our cars are very safe. +1 I also doubt it is totaled. I have a friend who has a new My friend found a lawyer and got a settlement from the insurance company for the reduced value of the car. I would check it if they decide to repair it, and have it repaired by an authorized BMW repair shop. GL Keep us informed
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| alejandra3 (751hp) | They will fix it.
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| jazmin123 (873hp) | Yeah, I know they'll fix it. The car is at the body shop of the automobile group where we bought it - this was about five minutes after the accident. I'm thinking about my plan to wait a bit to get my next BMW. If she had been in our community, it would have been much worse. that worries me.
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| victor10 (415hp) | I'm glad your wife is okay!
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| 11011990 (250hp) | How Diminished Value on a Lease Works?
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| angelo123 (573hp) | The bottom line is that the car did its job and protected your wife
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| REYOM (170hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Grover432 They will fix it. Yes, unless the frame is bent, they will replace just about anything, and it's still cheaper.
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| wcdd93H9pQ (280hp) | Estimation: $23,272
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| hallo2 (168hp) | Quote: Originally posted by tomegun Estimate: $23,272 That was quick. So that’s the beauty of a lease: you don’t have a diminished value problem. Simply return the car at the end of the lease. I'm glad your wife is okay..
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| SNOOPY (292hp) | The damage is now $35,000 and the USAA adjuster told me that the damage percentage of the car's total is 65% of the car's value. I don't really know how to calculate the value of a 2014 with around 400 miles. This may be one of those cases of a car depreciating as it leaves the lot. Does anyone know how to calculate the value of a car if new or how an insurance company would do it??
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| mary23 (519hp) | I hope they total it. I'm glad your wife is okay
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| 121072 (113hp) | Quote: Originally posted by tomegun The damages are now at $35,000 and the USAA adjuster told me that the damage percentage of the car's total is 65% of the car's value. the car. I don't really know how to calculate the value of a 2014 with around 400 miles. This may be one of those cases of a car depreciating as it leaves the lot. Anyone know how to calculate the value of a car this new or how an insurance company would do it? How much did you pay for the car? You can have GAP insurance from BMW or your own carrier. Assuming you didn't put any money down, you should be able to buy a new one with the insurance money..
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| N0m0r3 (162hp) | Quote: Posted by Grover432 How much did you pay for the car? You can have GAP insurance from BMW or your own carrier. Assuming you didn't put any money down, you should be able to buy a new one with the insurance money. About $61,000. I didn't deposit anything - instead I chose to make multiple security deposits.
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| MMAJNKE (621hp) | I'm really glad everyone is gone. I hope legal action is pending - so you will be paid for the inconvenience caused.
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| kellys (349hp) | Quote: Originally posted by tomegun About $61,000. I didn't deposit anything, instead I chose to make multiple security deposits. If $35,000 is 65% of its value, that means the appraiser estimates the car is worth about $54,000, meaning you're underwater by about $7,000 if the car turns out to be a loss. in Canada, we benefit from gap insurance included by BMW in our rentals. I hope your car is not a loss.
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| sticks (416hp) | Quote: Posted by tomegun Quote: Posted by Grover432 How much did you pay for the car? You can have GAP insurance from BMW or your own carrier. Assuming you didn't put any money down, you should be able to buy a new one with the insurance money. About $61,000. I didn't deposit anything, instead I chose to make multiple security deposits. If they total it, do you lose your multiple security deposits?
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