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| maxwell123 (855hp) | This black/piano brown interior is AMAZING! These seats look amazing!
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| suchitra (849hp) | Honestly, I can't see it that way. I think it's more driver focused than the E60 was (which was completely flat - not focusing on the passenger or driver). The layout of the air conditioning, stereo and iDrive screen is slightly angled towards the driver. The only part I admit is VERY strange is why they chose to put the leather edge on the driver's side, making it look like the passenger owns the shifter and iDrive buttons, and if followed, everything else too. But don't be fooled by the fact that it's angled towards the driver..
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| blue34 (487hp) | ^at least there's a 16 speaker unit to make up for that!
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| 74gangsta (605hp) | English part http://www.bmw.de/de/de/general/conf...ion&model=FS11 UK also has better equipment levels than catalog? http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesand...-bmwuk,00.html Standard in UK: - Leather Bluetooth Pro Radio Amibinet lights USB RFT tires Parking sensors keyless start SHark-fin ariel EXtended Air Con
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| fierce (862hp) | Arrgh! No 6 speeds on the 550! WTF.
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| ViperJPB (96hp) | 20The k euro difference between the 535i and 550i... makes it hard to justify the twin-turbo V8 over the twin-turbo I-6... but it also seems to have a lot more standard options. I want mine to be dark gray like Phillip posted
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| FETCHMAIL-DAEMON (203hp) | Doesn't it look more like black? I think Sophisto Gray is slightly lighter.
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| 25011988 (679hp) | Great! Thanks for sharing!
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| 270291 (501hp) | How do you get the damn thing to work? I can't select options or change the color of the car
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| massari (103hp) | Thanks for posting this, I just spent an hour playing on this thing
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| 70707070 (181hp) | Very busy times!
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| 251081 (558hp) | I love it - please bring diesel options to the US, my X5 35d is amazing and a diesel 5 would be amazing.
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| chicken69 (875hp) | Quote: Originally published by Philippe Bonjour. Is it Black Saphir metallic paint? ??
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| babyboi (71hp) | This will be a stunning car, especially the 550 and M varieties..
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| fantik (641hp) | Yeah, you're right. Ferrari must have made a mistake. DSGs are not where they are at. AUTOS are the future.
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| polling (454hp) | Quote: Originally posted by mapezzul I couldn't agree with you more! I bet you haven't been able to drive it yet with the auto sport option - includes the technically updated gear shift mechanism like the option currently available in the E60. I hate to tell everyone that the 550i won't benefit from DCT. Especially in AWD form. Building a DCT that can handle torque transfer isn't cheap and BMW won't do it. Newer sports cars shift just as quickly and can handle torque better. There will still be some tricks in sports cars that will do everything the DCT can do. Until you can drive the new 8-speed sports car, I think many of you DCT fans should relax. A change is coming and it is for the better. Don't be surprised to see Porsche/VW lose PDK in the future with BMW... Um... no. What will happen is that the DSG technology will be improved to handle the increase in torque. The new M5 has DSG.
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| henryBMW4 (696hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TT C6 Footie - With all due respect, don't tell us an automatic can compete with a dual clutch transmission. It's ridiculous. Anyone who has driven a DCT will tell you it's the ONLY choice. From someone who has driven a DCT transmission for the last 6 years, I probably have more knowledge of it than most and certainly a lot more knowledge than you. I'm telling you there's a good chance the M5 won't get a DCT for several reasons, but the main one is that the DCT can't keep up with the torque numbers the M5 will put out (it currently only supports 550 Nm comfortably and 600 Nm straight). Quote: Originally published by TT C6. Also, please do not say what BMW will or will not have to pay unless you have a reliable source..
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| agermedia (736hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TT C6 Yeah, you're right. Ferrari must have made a mistake. DSGs are not where they are at. AUTOS are the future. Ferrari is a different breed of animal and is not positioned as a sports/luxury sedan. Also regarding Auto being the future. If I told you about the future you wouldn't believe me.
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| babby (992hp) | Quote: Originally published by Alchem Uhm..no. What will happen is that the DSG technology will be improved to handle the increase in torque. The new M5 is equipped with DSG. Originally I would have been of the same opinion, but after testing the new ZF8sp I can conclude that it is actually better than many here think and is remarkably similar in feel and performance. action to that of the DCT. Another thing about it is that it handles impeccably, which those familiar with M-DCT will know is not always the case..
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| scott22 (361hp) | Footie - You have driven an SMG (single) clutch automatic transmission for years, but you have NOT driven a DOUBLE clutch (DSG) transmission in years. The technology is brand new to the mainstream automotive market. SMG was great on a race track, but horrible on the street. DSG is the future and will be in ALL cars in the near future. The new M5 definitely gets the M-DCT. So, dual clutch transmissions ARE the BEST transmissions available...and will only get better. The bottom line is this: If the 550xi doesn't get the BEST available transmission (DCT), I'll buy an Audi S4/RS4 or Porsche Panamera instead. Don't let us down BMW.
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| 17101985 (917hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TT C6 Footie - You have driven an SMG (single) clutch automatic transmission for years, but you have NOT driven a DOUBLE clutch transmission (DSG) in years. The technology is brand new to the mainstream automotive market. SMG was great on a race track, but horrible on the street. DSG is the future and will be in ALL cars in the near future. The new M5 definitely gets the M-DCT. So, dual clutch transmissions ARE the BEST transmissions available...and will only get better. The bottom line is this: If the 550xi doesn't get the BEST available transmission (DCT), I'll buy an Audi S4/RS4 or Porsche Panamera instead. Don't let us down BMW. Well there you have it, the comment above proves how little you know. For starters, the Audi TT3.2 was the first car to offer a DSG gearbox in early 2003. I drove one a few times, even though I didn't actually own one. My first DSG was a Mk5 GTI in 2005 which my wife used for 18 months, then upgraded to a manual GTI after that. I just sold my E92 M3 M-DCT in August after using it for a year. Trust me, I know more about DCT gearboxes than you think.
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| 160688 (451hp) | Little do I know? You make me laugh. I drove my cousin's A3 DSG as soon as Audi let her order one. The A3 and TT are chick cars. So, no shit, you weren't impressed. Why don't you go drive the new MB SLS AMG, the Ferrari 458 Italia or even the lowly GTR and get back to me on how good a DSG is. BMW's version of the Dual Clutch (DCT) in the E92 M3 is BMW's FIRST and ONLY attempt at a DSG transmission and it needs some fine-tuning. But DSG is the future. Anyone who supports the above obviously knows nothing.
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| swisher1 (226hp) | Quote: Posted by TT C6 Little do I know? You make me laugh. I drove my cousin's A3 DSG as soon as Audi let her order one. The A3 and TT are chick cars. So, no shit, you weren't impressed. Why don't you go drive the new MB SLS AMG, the Ferrari 458 Italia or even the lowly GTR and get back to me on how great a DSG is. BMW's version of the Dual Clutch (DCT) in the E92 M3 is BMW's FIRST and ONLY attempt at a DSG transmission and it needs some fine-tuning. But DSG is the future. Anyone who says the above obviously knows nothing about it. My evil, I must clearly bow to your infinite wisdom. I'll respond when you've posted a few thousand more posts and become a little more worldly..
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| ingeras (602hp) | Quote: Posted by TT C6 Little do I know? You make me laugh. I drove my cousin's A3 DSG as soon as Audi let her order one. The A3 and TT are chick cars. So, no shit, you weren't impressed. Why don't you go drive the new MB SLS AMG, the Ferrari 458 Italia or even the lowly GTR and get back to me on how good a DSG is. BMW's version of the Dual Clutch (DCT) in the E92 M3 is BMW's FIRST and ONLY attempt at a DSG transmission and it needs some fine-tuning. But DSG is the future. Anyone who says the above obviously knows nothing about it. wow...you clearly must know something more than what Footie and I (including all our internal sources) know. I'm glad you think DSG (as you keep calling it and it's Audi/VW terminology with a Borg Warner transmission) will be the future, and I invite you to keep thinking that. Since you know a lot, you should also know that the Porsche PDK and BMW DCT are designed and produced by the same people, but they are a different animal. I was told that the DCT would be short-lived (in fact, I think I first wrote it in August - someone can verify) by someone with direct knowledge of the situation. The new ZF can do everything the DCT can – with less weight and handle all the torque. In fact, there's nothing the DCT (or DSG since we're apparently discussing VAG cars here) can't do much better than the new ZF with the Sport guts. BMW was actually kind enough to foreshadow this for us... The new 8-speed with paddles introduces everyone to the new pull/pull way of selecting gears, which only exists in cars /// Mr. In talking with ///M engineers, they also stated that a DCT had little advantage over these new cars, saving a tenth of time (per lap) for an extra $10,000 (DCT to handle torque ) little sense. BMW is not Ferrari. Most people who buy these cars never even use them at 75% capacity. True enthusiasts don't buy AWD 550s as a performance car either, it's that simple. I also won't participate in personal attacks and I think that someone with such a small number of posts (despite being a member for over 3 years) and who obviously has no idea who has connections to where, should really be careful what he says to certain people because you never know who you might annoy and what information they might not tell to the forum as a whole.....this has happened before. Oh and TT6, you also need to realize that some people here drive prototypes and may have had experience way before you, especially when DSG was only introduced to the US after the EU. .. Think about 6 months to a year. before and you will realize that you may be out of your league. -M
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| lollipop. (466hp) | Quote: Originally published by Alchem Uhm..no. What will happen is that the DSG technology will be improved to handle the increase in torque. The new M5 is equipped with DSG. Not in a BMW. Not to mention a 550. They're still testing a few different options in the ///M5 (DCT doesn't win due to cost). Gerhard Wagner is the head of powertrain technology at ZF... He said that by 2013, with a few rare exceptions, we will have completely converted from six to eight gears. But he does not foresee an increase beyond this number of speeds in the coming years. He believes eight-speed torque converter transmissions will remain state-of-the-art for the foreseeable future. He also says: “In the future, we see the double clutch continuing to be aimed more at the sports segment and particularly at rear-wheel drive. This is why the Z4 will keep it as an option, just like the M3 until the end of its life....
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| diablo666 (558hp) | Yeah, you're right. Ferrari must have made a mistake. DSGs are not where they are. AUTOS are the future.
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| 090979 (173hp) | Quote: Originally posted by mapezzul I couldn't agree with you more! I bet you haven't been able to drive it yet with the auto sport option - includes the technically updated gear shift mechanism like the option currently available in the E60. I hate to tell everyone that the 550i won't benefit from DCT. Especially in AWD form. Building a DCT that can handle torque transfer isn't cheap and BMW won't do it. Newer sports cars shift just as quickly and can handle torque better. There will still be some tricks in sports cars that will do everything the DCT can do. Until you can drive the new 8-speed sports car, I think many of you DCT fans should relax. A change is coming and it is for the better. Don't be surprised to see Porsche/VW lose PDK in the future with BMW... Um... no. What will happen is that the DSG technology will be improved to handle the increase in torque. The new M5 has DSG.
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| ThatRWD (917hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TT C6 Footie - With all due respect, don't tell us an automatic can compete with a dual clutch transmission. It's ridiculous. Anyone who has driven a DCT will tell you it's the ONLY choice. From someone who has driven a DCT transmission for the last 6 years, I probably have more knowledge of it than most and certainly a lot more knowledge than you. I'm telling you there's a good chance the M5 won't get a DCT for several reasons, but the main one is that the DCT can't keep up with the torque numbers the M5 will put out (it currently only supports 550 Nm comfortably and 600 Nm straight). Quote: Originally published by TT C6. Also, please do not say what BMW will or will not have to pay unless you have a reliable source..
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| 011287 (68hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TT C6 Yeah, you're right. Ferrari must have made a mistake. DSGs are not where they are at. AUTOS are the future. Ferrari is a different breed of animal and is not positioned as a sports/luxury sedan. Also regarding Auto being the future. If I told you about the future you wouldn't believe me.
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| Iliketacos (828hp) | Quote: Originally published by Alchem Uhm..no. What will happen is that the DSG technology will be improved to handle the increase in torque. The new M5 is equipped with DSG. Originally I would have been of the same opinion, but after testing the new ZF8sp I can conclude that it is actually better than many here think and is remarkably similar in feel and performance. action to that of the DCT. Another thing about it is that it behaves impeccably, which those familiar with M-DCT will know is not always the case..
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| thunder5 (629hp) | Footie - You have driven an SMG (single) clutch automatic transmission for years, but you have NOT driven a DOUBLE clutch (DSG) transmission in years. The technology is brand new to the mainstream automotive market. SMG was great on a race track, but horrible on the street. DSG is the future and will be in ALL cars in the near future. The new M5 definitely gets the M-DCT. So, dual clutch transmissions ARE the BEST transmissions available...and will only get better. The bottom line is this: If the 550xi doesn't get the BEST available transmission (DCT), I'll buy an Audi S4/RS4 or Porsche Panamera instead. Don't let us down BMW.
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| pomona1 (888hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TT C6 Footie - You have driven an SMG (single) clutch automatic transmission for years, but you have NOT driven a DOUBLE clutch transmission (DSG) in years. The technology is brand new to the mainstream automotive market. SMG was great on a race track, but horrible on the street. DSG is the future and will be in ALL cars in the near future. The new M5 definitely gets the M-DCT. So, dual clutch transmissions ARE the BEST transmissions available...and will only get better. The bottom line is this: If the 550xi doesn't get the BEST available transmission (DCT), I'll buy an Audi S4/RS4 or Porsche Panamera instead. Don't let us down BMW. Well there you have it, the comment above proves how little you know. For starters, the Audi TT3.2 was the first car to offer a DSG gearbox in early 2003. I drove one a few times, even though I didn't actually own one. My first DSG was a Mk5 GTI in 2005 which my wife used for 18 months, then upgraded to a manual GTI after that. I just sold my E92 M3 M-DCT in August after using it for a year. Trust me, I know more about DCT gearboxes than you think.
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| bitch99 (115hp) | Little do I know? You make me laugh. I drove my cousin's A3 DSG as soon as Audi let her order one. The A3 and TT are chick cars. So, no, you weren't impressed. Why don't you go drive the new MB SLS AMG, the Ferrari 458 Italia or even the lowly GTR and get back to me on how great a DSG is. BMW's version of the Dual Clutch (DCT) in the E92 M3 is BMW's FIRST and ONLY attempt at a DSG transmission and it needs some fine-tuning. But DSG is the future. Anyone who supports the above obviously knows nothing.
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| famous11 (605hp) | Quote: Posted by TT C6 Little do I know? You make me laugh. I drove my cousin's A3 DSG as soon as Audi let her order one. The A3 and TT are chick cars. So, no shit, you weren't impressed. Why don't you go drive the new MB SLS AMG, the Ferrari 458 Italia or even the lowly GTR and get back to me on how good a DSG is. BMW's version of the Dual Clutch (DCT) in the E92 M3 is BMW's FIRST and ONLY attempt at a DSG transmission and it needs some fine-tuning. But DSG is the future. Anyone who says the above obviously knows nothing about it. My evil, I must clearly bow to your infinite wisdom. I'll respond when you've posted a few thousand more posts and become a little more worldly..
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| teller (732hp) | Quote: Posted by TT C6 Little do I know? You make me laugh. I drove my cousin's A3 DSG as soon as Audi let her order one. The A3 and TT are chick cars. So, no shit, you weren't impressed. Why don't you go drive the new MB SLS AMG, the Ferrari 458 Italia or even the lowly GTR and get back to me on how great a DSG is. BMW's version of the Dual Clutch (DCT) in the E92 M3 is BMW's FIRST and ONLY attempt at a DSG transmission and it needs some fine-tuning. But DSG is the future. Anyone who says the above obviously knows nothing about it. wow...you clearly must know something more than what Footie and I (including all our internal sources) know. I'm glad you think DSG (as you keep calling it and it's Audi/VW terminology with a Borg Warner transmission) will be the future, and I invite you to keep thinking that. Since you know a lot, you should also know that the Porsche PDK and BMW DCT are designed and produced by the same people, but they are a different animal. I was told that the DCT would be short-lived (in fact, I think I first wrote it in August - someone can verify) by someone with direct knowledge of the situation. The new ZF can do everything the DCT can – with less weight and handle all the torque. In fact, there's nothing the DCT (or DSG since we're apparently discussing VAG cars here) can't do much better than the new ZF with the Sport guts. BMW was actually kind enough to foreshadow this for us... The new 8-speed with paddles introduces everyone to the new pull/pull way of selecting gears, which only exists in cars /// Mr. In talking with ///M engineers they also stated that a DCT had little advantage over these new cars, saving a tenth of time (per lap) for an extra $10,000 (DCT to handle torque ) little sense. BMW is not Ferrari. Most people who buy these cars never even use them at 75% capacity. True enthusiasts don't buy AWD 550s as a performance car either, it's that simple. I also won't participate in personal attacks and I think that someone with such a small number of posts (despite being a member for over 3 years) and who obviously has no idea who has connections to where, should really be careful what he says to certain people because you never know who you might annoy and what information they might not tell to the forum as a whole.....it's happened before. Oh and TT6, you also have to realize that some people here drive prototypes and may have had experience way before you, especially when DSG was only introduced to the US after the EU. .. Think about 6 months to a year. before and you will realize that you may be out of your league. -M
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| mookie123 (156hp) | Quote: Originally published by Alchem Uhm..no. What will happen is that the DSG technology will be improved to handle the increase in torque. The new M5 is equipped with DSG. Not in a BMW. Not to mention a 550. They're still testing a few different options in the ///M5 (DCT doesn't win due to cost). Gerhard Wagner is the head of powertrain technology at ZF... He said that by 2013, with a few rare exceptions, we will have completely converted from six to eight gears. But he does not foresee an increase beyond this number of speeds in the coming years. He believes eight-speed torque converter transmissions will remain state-of-the-art for the foreseeable future. He also says: “In the future, we see the double clutch continuing to be aimed more at the sports segment and particularly at rear-wheel drive. This is why the Z4 will keep it as an option, just like the M3 until the end of its life....
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| 080482 (992hp) | hello everyone... has anyone seen any photos of what the M sports package will look like on the F10? and does anyone know when it will be available? Thanks in advance, Steven
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| hunnie (533hp) | I don't think the information on the M sports package is available. I would also like to see photos. most people here are talking about mid 2010 or fall 2010 for sports m.
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| passwerd (439hp) | Spring 2010 according to the link below. http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336277 This may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good start as a reference point.
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| 231123 (115hp) | NONE...I want 2c the standard f10 in 1st street
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| favorites (456hp) | Yeah man.. I'm also waiting for information on the individual package. These cars should arrive in Canada by April...
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| baybee (322hp) | hello everyone... has anyone seen any photos of what the M sports package will look like on the F10? and does anyone know when it will be available? Thanks in advance, Steven
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| 59fifty (435hp) | I don't think the information on the M sports package is available. I would also like to see photos. most people here are talking about mid 2010 or fall 2010 for sports m.
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| 212121q (186hp) | Spring 2010 according to the link below. http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336277 This may not be entirely accurate, but it's a good start as a reference point.
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| 19011986 (326hp) | NONE...I want 2c the standard f10 in 1st street
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| iloveu01 (775hp) | Yeah man.. I'm also waiting for information on the individual package. These cars should arrive in Canada by April...
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| logout (213hp) | Both cars are very beautiful although I love the design of the F10
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| church2 (747hp) | I still think the E60 is nicer.
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| chesterroh (425hp) | Quote: Posted by bmw 745d I still think the E60 is nicer. Rear quarter + trunk lid and strange, tall FTL sedan proportions That curve across the vehicle's profile and the F10's low, sporty roofline are beyond stunning
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| rafa123 (672hp) | I like both, but I like the E60 better.. maybe my eyes haven't adjusted to the new model yet.. LOL
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| xxkk01234 (221hp) | I should at least post a picture of an LCI e60..the cues on an LCI are a huge improvement over the pre-lci cues...
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| 13121986 (560hp) | I like the F10
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| 240179 (558hp) | F10 FTW!
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| sammie11 (944hp) | e60 ftw, the f10 looks like a big e90, which is not a good thing because having an e60, I can't avoid seeing the lines of the e90s as lines of cheaper BMW cars. I think the new f10 should have taken a new design route IMHO
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| irene123 (815hp) | As an E90 owner, I gotta love the F10 I might upgrade to, and my wife might not notice.
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| master24 (185hp) | I love the e60 but the f10 looks good too. It's tough because I haven't seen the f10 in person but I'm sure I'll love it. I'm looking to buy next year and almost considered buying a 2010 e60 because that would be a better deal but I think I'd go with the F10...can't beat that twin turbo engine.
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| the1andonl (971hp) | f10
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| Errowen (500hp) | F10
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| 666666k (118hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BimmerKoo F10 all the way yo!........it's bigger and wider. Ugh... I wouldn't call bigger to be better. BMW needs to stop the bigger, heavier trend in each of the redesign iterations.
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| singer123 (394hp) | The E60 is undoubtedly better looking than the F10. F10 has no enthusiasm - looks very lame-
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| kamil12 (908hp) | Both cars are very beautiful although I love the design of the F10
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| farhat (902hp) | I still think the E60 is nicer.
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| silver13 (188hp) | Quote: Posted by bmw 745d I still think the E60 is nicer. Rear quarter + trunk lid and weird, tall FTL sedan proportions That curve through the vehicle profile and the F10's low, sporty roofline are beyond stunning
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| lauren09 (125hp) | I like both, but I like the E60 better.. maybe my eyes haven't adjusted to the new model yet.. LOL
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| morgen (706hp) | I should at least post a picture of an LCI e60..the cues on an LCI are a huge improvement over the pre-lci cues...
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| rocket69 (396hp) | I like the F10
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| 110278 (144hp) | F10 FTW!
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| 101000 (839hp) | e60 ftw, the f10 looks like a big e90, which is not a good thing because having an e60, I can't avoid seeing the lines of the e90s as lines of cheaper BMW cars. I think the new f10 should have taken a new design route IMHO
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| 100480 (680hp) | As an E90 owner, I gotta love the F10 I might upgrade to, and my wife might not notice.
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| wapwap (347hp) | I love the e60 but the f10 looks good too. It's tough because I haven't seen the f10 in person but I'm sure I'll love it. I'm looking to buy next year and almost considered buying a 2010 e60 because that would be a better deal but I think I'd go with the F10...can't beat that twin turbo engine.
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| geoffct (936hp) | f10
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| bearded (82hp) | F10
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| cioccolato (264hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BimmerKoo F10 all the way yo!........it's bigger and wider. Ugh... I wouldn't call bigger to be better. BMW needs to stop the bigger, heavier trend in each of the redesign iterations.
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| jordans23 (964hp) | The E60 is undoubtedly better looking than the F10. F10 has no enthusiasm - looks very lame-
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| 2M (88hp) | Quote: Originally posted by pharding Is this Black Saphire metallic paint? Ugh... I don't think you can tell the difference between Jet and Sapphire on the virtual car displayed on a computer screen..
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| wholefoo (685hp) | Quote: Originally posted by RX7guy A $20,000 difference between the 535i and 550i... makes it hard to justify the twin-turbo V8 over the twin-turbo I-6... but it also seems to have a lot more standard options. I want mine to be dark gray like Phillip posted F10 535 I have a SINGLE dual pulse turbo
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| osito1 (296hp) | Please could someone translate the configuration options into German? I tried to do it one by one with a dictionary, but had to give up because half of the words didn't appear and it took too long. If anyone fluent in German could help it would be greatly appreciated!
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| funnyman (111hp) | Quote: Originally posted by dhoggm3 Arrgh! No 6 speeds on the 550! WTF. I understood that it was a chance, that's for sure??????
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| dare (214hp) | Direct from the BMW USA website. ??? The 535i and 550i will be available with a choice of 6-speed manual transmission, BMW's new 8-speed automatic transmission, or the new 8-speed "Sport Automatic" transmission..
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| 27051986 (879hp) | so what is the difference between 8 speed auto and 8 speed "sport" auto?
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| yamaha11 (696hp) | I thought the car with the black/brown interior was dark blue. Am I the only one who can't display the configurator correctly on my computer? using a macbook pro the page constantly flickers.
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| 16011992 (744hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Zen So what's the difference between the 8 speed automatic car and the 8 speed "sports" car? I think it's the same transexual. I assume the sport variant has (1) paddle shifters and (2) a sport mode for more aggressive shift programming..
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| 010580 (364hp) | Quote: Posted by enigma01 I think they are the same transsexuals. I assume the sport variant has (1) paddle shifters and (2) a sport mode for more aggressive shift programming. The brochure says: 8-speed Steptronic sports automatic transmission, with sports mode for particularly sporty driving and shift paddles on the leather sports steering wheel. The question remains what sporty driving actually means in practice: is it shorter shift times between gears or faster response times during downshifts or higher revs? ?
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| kandy1 (646hp) | Quote: Originally posted by pharding Is this Black Saphire metallic paint? Ugh... I don't think you can tell the difference between Jet and Sapphire on the virtual car displayed on a computer screen..
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| Logitech1 (807hp) | Quote: Originally posted by RX7guy A $20,000 difference between the 535i and 550i... makes it hard to justify the twin-turbo V8 over the twin-turbo I-6... but it also seems to have a lot more standard options. I want mine to be dark gray like Phillip posted F10 535 I have a SINGLE dual pulse turbo
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| doi (347hp) | Please could someone translate the configuration options into German? I tried to do it one by one with a dictionary, but had to give up because half of the words didn't appear and it took too long. If anyone fluent in German could help it would be greatly appreciated!
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| icecream123 (190hp) | Quote: Originally posted by dhoggm3 Arrgh! No 6 speeds on the 550! WTF. I understood that it was a chance, that's for sure??????
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| qqqqqqqqq1 (33hp) | Direct from the BMW USA website. ??? The 535i and 550i will be available with a choice of 6-speed manual transmission, BMW's new 8-speed automatic transmission, or the new 8-speed "Sport Automatic" transmission..
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| rockie1 (303hp) | so what is the difference between 8 speed auto and 8 speed "sport" auto?
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| valya-city (851hp) | I thought the car with the black/brown interior was dark blue. Am I the only one who can't display the configurator correctly on my computer? using a macbook pro the page constantly flickers.
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| sfm5 (736hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Zen So what's the difference between the 8 speed automatic car and the 8 speed "sports" car? I think it's the same transexual. I assume the sport variant has (1) paddle shifters and (2) a sport mode for more aggressive shift programming..
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| MEMMEZZ (18hp) | Quote: Posted by enigma01 I think they are the same transsexuals. I assume the sport variant has (1) paddle shifters and (2) a sport mode for more aggressive shift programming. The brochure says: 8-speed Steptronic sports automatic transmission, with sports mode for particularly sporty driving and shift paddles on the leather sports steering wheel. The question remains what sporty driving actually means in practice: is it shorter shift times between gears or faster response times during downshifts or higher revs? ?
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| crjhgbjy (235hp) | I found the link below on 5Series.net... seems to be one of the first video reviews of the F10: http://issue.imotormag.co.uk/1H4af7f...655.cde/page/ 4 Take advantage!
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| 16071991 (105hp) | great find!! I don't like what the jaguar looks like at all!! Why he would choose a JAG over 5 series is a conundrum to me!!
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| artiste (749hp) | To be honest, I think the XF is a better looking car too. As beautiful as this 5 is...it's a bit boring. Looks like a Series 3 and Series 7 combined, which is a safe design, but not a wow design.
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| crjnbyf (901hp) | how can it be more beautiful!! The facade is so ugly I can't even look at it!!
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| football73 (775hp) | Quote: Posted by keanu1 great find!! I don't like what the jaguar looks like at all!! Why he would choose a JAG over 5 series is a conundrum to me!! because he is British
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| rock1234 (111hp) | Quote: Originally posted by keanu1, how can it be more beautiful!! The facade is so ugly I can't even look at it!! The 5 has everything the Jag needs in terms of looks
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| wawa123 (225hp) | I have to agree...the Jag is nice, and certainly revolutionary for Jaguar's typical traditional design, but the F10 is just too sleek...more bulk, more weird details. Me like...
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| PNW_F10 (111hp) | bon!
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| cuteness (46hp) | Both models are a little conservative for my tastes, but the 5 is definitely the nicer of the two..
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| sarasa (813hp) | I found the link below on 5Series.net... seems to be one of the first video reviews of the F10: http://issue.imotormag.co.uk/1H4af7f...655.cde/page/ 4 Enjoy it!
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| 061189 (927hp) | great find!! I don't like what the jaguar looks like at all!! Why he would choose a JAG over 5 series is a conundrum to me!!
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| dave7002 (213hp) | To be honest, I think the XF is a better looking car too. As beautiful as this 5 is...it's a bit boring. Looks like a Series 3 and Series 7 combined, which is a safe design, but not a wow design.
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| jackie16 (941hp) | how can it be more beautiful!! The facade is so ugly I can't even look at it!!
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| NickeL (395hp) | Quote: Posted by keanu1 great find!! I don't like what the jaguar looks like at all!! Why he would choose a JAG over 5 series is a conundrum to me!! because he is British
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| consulting (513hp) | Quote: Originally posted by keanu1, how can it be more beautiful!! The facade is so ugly I can't even look at it!! The 5 has everything the Jag needs in terms of looks
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| wasdqe (632hp) | I have to agree...the Jag is nice, and certainly revolutionary for the typical traditional Jaguar design, but the F10 is just too sleek...more bulk, more weird details. Me like...
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| 280185 (732hp) | bon!
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| marie8 (116hp) | Both models are a little conservative for my tastes, but the 5 is definitely the nicer of the two..
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| dawood (50hp) | My girlfriend is going to return her leased 528i and wants to lease a new 2009 528xi with auto and navigation... MSRP $52,370.00. The best price we've heard so far is $646 per month, 3 years, 12,000 miles per year, no down payment...just sales tax, registration and 1st month. rent with loyalty from the owner and vacation bonus of $2500. That seems high to me. I pay $567 per month. for a 335i for $44,500 at the end of a 3 year lease. I would appreciate feedback on pricing. THANKS!
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| flaca1 (710hp) | You should split the transaction into parts to get the best price/monthly payments. Find out what people are paying in dollars compared to prices charged in the United States. Negotiate this without muddying the deal with financing/leasing. Then approach leasing by identifying the current money factor of the BMW FS. Insert these numbers into rental comparison software, then negotiate the rental contract..
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| 27061981 (655hp) | Is it possible to negotiate the rental contract with BMW FS? I agree with you, negotiate the price of the car first, then discuss financing/leasing, I didn't know BMW FS would also negotiate the leasing factors there (if they do, it's).
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| 060684 (669hp) | My girlfriend is going to return her leased 528i and wants to lease a new 2009 528xi with auto and navigation... MSRP $52,370.00. The best price we've heard so far is $646 per month, 3 years, 12,000 miles per year, no down payment...just sales tax, registration and 1st month. rent with loyalty from the owner and vacation bonus of $2500. That seems high to me. I pay $567 per month. for a 335i for $44,500 at the end of a 3 year lease. I would appreciate feedback on pricing. THANKS!
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| carlijn (911hp) | You should split the transaction into several pieces to get the best price/monthly payments. Find out what people are paying in dollars compared to prices charged in the United States. Negotiate this without muddying the deal with financing/leasing. Then approach leasing by identifying the current money factor of the BMW FS. Insert these numbers into rental comparison software, then negotiate the rental contract..
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| 9988776655 (717hp) | Is it possible to negotiate the rental contract with BMW FS? I agree with you, negotiate the price of the car first, then discuss financing/leasing, I didn't know BMW FS would also negotiate the leasing factors there (if they do, it's).
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| federer1 (812hp) | Anyone know if the following problems of the E60 will be solved: Heated seats even on the front Interval function on the windshield wipers The door opens on the first try (auto lock activated) The gearbox responds when you press the SW paddle, not after a while Corrosion issues The webasto does not heat up to a small point causing the screen to crack The navi does not move from the mat to the phone number when an incoming call The response time of the navi / idrive The navi places you furthest behind your route. Not interesting to see the areas already covered. The navi gives you the search criteria ahead of your route. Not around areas already crossed HU must be adjustable
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| Bodie217 (483hp) | I don't remember reading anything like old issues in any of the articles I read. To be honest, I'm worried about the problems with the new models.
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| chopper3 (461hp) | There isn't one, I think it's just your lemon
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| lucylucy (461hp) | Anyone know if the following problems of the E60 will be solved: Heated seats even on the front Interval function on the windshield wipers The door opens on the first try (auto lock activated) The gearbox responds when you press the SW paddle, not after a while Corrosion issues The webasto does not heat up to a small point causing the screen to crack The navi does not move from the mat to the phone number when an incoming call The response time of the navi / idrive The navi places you furthest behind your route. Not interesting to see the areas already covered. The navi gives you the search criteria ahead of your route. Not around areas already crossed HU must be adjustable
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