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| sanmartin (752hp) | It's been a few days and I'm still learning all the features. I really like the top view and front camera and I like the way the lights look. Here are some photos.
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| nlk10010 (102hp) | I agree...the technology in this vehicle is far superior to its German rivals. And the headlights.... WOW... super bright! Eliminate HIDs!
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| hannah96 (769hp) | The top view is the most interesting feature. People are always impressed by it. It also helps to brake your rims. I don't use the side view as much but it's good for stop signs. I just forgot to use it.
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| snowangel (602hp) | Yes, I love LEDs
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| diamond18 (385hp) | I know this is the 5 series forum, but I was curious if anyone had cross-shopped the vehicles and what were your thoughts? I know they do different things for different purposes. I will be upgrading from my 335i M-Sport to a 535 M-Sport or X5 Premium since we are about to start a family.
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| password24 (937hp) | X5 of course. I don't know about the others but it's pretty tight in my F10 with the car seat. I'm only 5'10 and the car seat can't fit behind me. The front passenger is snug with the car seat in the back. Also, after putting the stroller in the trunk. it's over. and most strollers are too long for the trunk. My Uppavista cannot go there directly. we had to take a snapshot.
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| IndotagSwizz (898hp) | For a new baby, the X5 will be more practical. There are a lot of things to carry around when they are little. Once they can sit in a booster seat, it doesn't matter anymore.
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| tanita (890hp) | I'm in pretty much the same dilemma myself and also coming from a Msport 335 sedan. The X5 and 535 are essentially the same price, but you get a lot more refinement in the 5 series compared to the Things just seem cheaper and assembled in the X5 for the same price. Another major concern for me is that the all-new X5 is expected to be released sometime in 2013. I saw a document somewhere that said the current I don't know how accurate this is.
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| bilgisayar (18hp) | Keep in mind that the X5's trunk space is incredibly small for such a huge car. I would go for an F11 if space is what you need.
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| direito (952hp) | I had the same considerations earlier in the year and opted for the 535i touring. The X5 wasn't as comfortable and couldn't realistically carry 7 people and was a little too tall, requiring getting into the car. The height meant more lifting was required to load the car seat and stroller. The ride is also bumpier, consumption is higher and overall less refined and responsive. The F11 fixed all of these issues while looking a lot nicer IMHO. The space is probably not as big as in the X5 but enough for the Maxi Cosi car seat and the Quinny stroller. The F11's trunk lid is lower, which makes loading/unloading easier, and trust me, there's a lot going on. My other car is an Audi Q5 and while it's not quite an X5, I think SUVs are nowhere near as comfortable as sedans/passenger cars. Good luck in your choice.
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| 221086 (437hp) | no F11 here yet. maybe the GT? haha.
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| 147123 (955hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Alan L. Another major concern for me is that the all-new X5 is expected to be released sometime in 2013. I saw a document somewhere that said the current X5 would end production in 10 /2012. I don't know how accurate this is. I think your dates are good. Outside of some specific months, it's realistic that the current X5 will be replaced in 2013 - at some point. So buying now is a very bad time, I think, because you're too early to benefit from any special offers at the end of the line, and you'll only have 18-20 months in the current form, before the next form begins to appear. your neighbors' driveway. I was still moving a lot of small children's items when I had my E61 - no complaints about space, so I imagine the F11 is just as competent in terms of space for gear needs for babies/toddlers. My kids - a little older now - have plenty of space in the F10 for themselves and all their stuff. Cheers.
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| 170594 (389hp) | Well, it's much easier to change your little baby's diaper in the trunk of an SUV than anywhere in a sedan. If you have a child aged 0-3, get an SUV. Period.
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| jack16 (562hp) | Quote: Originally Posted by iwinit Well, it's a lot easier to change your little baby's diaper in the trunk of an SUV than anywhere in a sedan. If you have a child aged 0-3, get an SUV. Period. yeah man. right on.
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| hunt3r (202hp) | I don't have kids but I imagine the X5 would be better suited to your needs. It's a shame the F11 isn't available in North America. Your other option is the 5GT it will be a good utility and sporty medium.
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| pass_word (443hp) | I love the X5, but we actually converted a Touareg and went to the 535 and have two car seats in the back with really no issues. I'm 6'4, and so the little guy behind me doesn't have a lot of space (I've programmed a seat adjustment for when he's in there), there's definitely enough space. I will say it's painful to bend over to put the kids in the seats...but if you can live with that and prefer the sedan, do it. It is, however, a rather pleasant dilemma to live with. And I think the X5 has much better resale value. But if you want to do some mods, I think the 5er is the best.
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| 271294 (497hp) | I experienced the exact same dilemma but ended up with the F10 even though I really preferred the X5. I chose the F10 because the X5 will be replaced soon and I tend to keep my cars for 4+ years. I actually think the X5 is a bit cheaper and offers more value, but the F10 has great looks. The only thing I regret with the F10 is not waiting long enough to find the options I wanted and not getting a V8. I can upgrade the options but I'm stuck with the engine. I miss the sound of the V8!
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| torrey (607hp) | Quote: Originally posted by sanf no F11 here yet. maybe the GT? haha. LOL! the GT is the most hideous thing ever...I still can't believe it was approved and built
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| firefighte (121hp) | Quote: Originally posted by armoredsaint I know this is the 5 series forum, but I was curious if anyone had cross-shopped the vehicles and what were your thoughts? I know they do different things for different purposes. I will be upgrading from my 335i M-Sport to a 535 M-Sport or X5 Premium since we are about to start a family. I had a 2007 x5 4.8. Biggest nightmare of my life. A real, honest turd with 24 dealer visits in 14 months. If you buy an X5, get the diesel, it's the only one that makes sense to me. I have a 2011 535 M sport, no problem with the Peg Perego baby seat and now a Recaro booster seat. I'm 6'3 and my wife is 5'7 and no problem. It's not the ideal baby mobile, but I still get a major fun-to-drive factor, a fast car, good looks, great fuel economy and for me, most importantly, it's not not an.5.
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| jessica04 (835hp) | For those considering installing baby seats or booster seats in the F10, please note that you need to purchase those with a very small base/support. The rear seats of the F10 are designed in such a way that the wide edges are tilted upwards. The actual usable width of car seats is quite small. I have 8 car seats at home and only 2 of them can barely fit in them.
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| Lindsay (42hp) | Quote: Originally posted by iwinit For those considering installing infant seats or booster seats in the F10, please note that you should purchase those with a very small base/support. The rear seats of the F10 are designed in such a way that the wide edges are tilted upwards. The actual usable width of car seats is quite small. I have 8 car seats at home and only 2 of them can barely fit. Which ones are you currently using? ??
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| pamela123 (825hp) | My F10 has no problem with my family of 5. 3 children in the back, including one in a car seat in the middle. Put the kids in an X5 back seat, same situation. You probably save a little in the trunk since there's no cap limit, but who wants to sit in another SUV, I say throw the kids in the back and move on!
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| grandma123 (718hp) | I was thinking about the X6, but it's too big for where I live, so I went with the F10. with F10, stroller in the trunk = no more luggage. curse the back roads and parking lots of Japan...
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| helene1 (49hp) | Yeah. no space in the trunk after a stroller. I should look into a series 7 next haha
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| tyree1 (786hp) | Quote: Posted by sanf Which 2 are you using now? I wouldn't recommend mine. They can barely adapt. It seems the Recaro booster seats are much better. I wish I had heard about Recaro seats before purchasing Graco.
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| chelsea. (108hp) | You're all joking, right? Not enough room for a baby in an F10? Changing diapers in a car? Men!, of course you can do it with one of these cars. The x5 is ideal for off-roading or towing your horses. The F10 is your choice when looking for one of the best-looking luxury sedans of this era. Easy choice, if I may say so.
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| tennis2 (804hp) | I know this is the 5 series forum, but I was curious if anyone had cross-shopped the vehicles and what were your thoughts? I know they do different things for different purposes. I will be upgrading from my 335i M-Sport to a 535 M-Sport or X5 Premium since we are about to start a family.
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| 1928374655 (658hp) | X5 of course. I don't know about the others but it's pretty tight in my F10 with the car seat. I'm only 5'10 and the car seat can't fit behind me. The front passenger is snug with the car seat in the back. Also, after putting the stroller in the trunk. it's over. and most strollers are too long for the trunk. My Uppavista cannot go there directly. we had to take a snapshot.
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| 030892 (144hp) | For a new baby, the X5 will be more practical. There are a lot of things to carry around when they are little. Once they can sit in a booster seat, it doesn't matter anymore.
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| chrisdoha (379hp) | I'm in pretty much the same dilemma myself and also coming from a Msport 335 sedan. The X5 and 535 are essentially the same price, but you get a lot more refinement in the 5 series compared to the Things just seem cheaper and assembled in the X5 for the same price. Another major concern for me is that the all-new X5 is expected to be released sometime in 2013. I saw a document somewhere that said the current I don't know how accurate this is.
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| ianbiz (337hp) | Keep in mind that the X5's trunk space is incredibly small for such a huge car. I would go for an F11 if space is what you need.
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| cowboy123 (406hp) | I had the same considerations earlier in the year and opted for the 535i touring. The X5 wasn't as comfortable and couldn't realistically carry 7 people and was a little too tall, requiring getting into the car. The height meant more lifting was required to load the car seat and stroller. The ride is also bumpier, consumption is higher and overall less refined and responsive. The F11 fixed all of these issues while looking a lot nicer IMHO. The space is probably not as big as in the X5 but enough for the Maxi Cosi car seat and the Quinny stroller. The F11's trunk lid is lower, which makes loading/unloading easier, and trust me, there's a lot going on. My other car is an Audi Q5 and while it's not quite an X5, I think SUVs are nowhere near as comfortable as sedans/passenger cars. Good luck in your choice.
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| iloveyou (681hp) | no F11 here yet. maybe the GT? haha.
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| zzxxccvv (903hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Alan L. Another major concern for me is that the all-new X5 is expected to be released sometime in 2013. I saw a document somewhere that said the current X5 would end production in 10 /2012. I don't know how accurate this is. I think your dates are good. Outside of some specific months, it's realistic that the current X5 will be replaced in 2013 - at some point. So buying now is a very bad time, I think, because you're too early to benefit from any special deals down the line, and you'll only have 18-20 months in the current form, before the next form begins to appear. your neighbors' driveway. I was still moving a lot of small children's items when I had my E61 - no complaints about space, so I imagine the F11 is just as competent in terms of space for gear needs for babies/toddlers. My kids - a little older now - have plenty of space in the F10 for themselves and all their stuff. Cheers.
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| kot123 (405hp) | Well, it's much easier to change your little baby's diaper in the trunk of an SUV than anywhere in a sedan. If you have a child aged 0-3, get an SUV. Period.
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| 031983 (788hp) | Quote: Originally Posted by iwinit Well, it's a lot easier to change your little baby's diaper in the trunk of an SUV than anywhere in a sedan. If you have a child aged 0-3, get an SUV. Period. yeah man. right on.
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| alexdok76 (277hp) | I don't have kids but I imagine the X5 would be better suited to your needs. It's a shame the F11 isn't available in North America. Your other option is the 5GT it will be a good utility and sporty medium.
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| spyroz (271hp) | I love the X5, but we actually converted a Touareg and went to the 535 and have two car seats in the back with really no issues. I'm 6'4, and so the little guy behind me doesn't have a lot of space (I've programmed a seat adjustment for when he's in there), there's definitely enough space. I will say it's painful to bend over to put the kids in the seats...but if you can live with that and prefer the sedan, do it. It is, however, a rather pleasant dilemma to live with. And I think the X5 has much better resale value. But if you want to do some mods, I think the 5er is the best.
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| amber01 (7hp) | I experienced the exact same dilemma but ended up with the F10 even though I really preferred the X5. I chose the F10 because the X5 will be replaced soon and I tend to keep my cars for 4+ years. I actually think the X5 is a bit cheaper and offers more value, but the F10 has great looks. The only thing I regret with the F10 is not waiting long enough to find the options I wanted and not getting a V8. I can upgrade the options but I'm stuck with the engine. I miss the sound of the V8!
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| 12081975 (459hp) | Quote: Originally posted by sanf no F11 here yet. maybe the GT? haha. LOL! the GT is the most hideous thing ever...I still can't believe it was approved and built
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| 251259a (374hp) | Quote: Originally posted by armoredsaint I know this is the 5 series forum, but I was curious if anyone had cross-shopped the vehicles and what were your thoughts? I know they do different things for different purposes. I will be upgrading from my 335i M-Sport to a 535 M-Sport or X5 Premium since we are about to start a family. I had a 2007 x5 4.8. Biggest nightmare of my life. A real, honest turd with 24 dealer visits in 14 months. If you buy an X5, get the diesel, it's the only one that makes sense to me. I have a 2011 535 M sport, no problem with the Peg Perego baby seat and now a Recaro booster seat. I'm 6'3 and my wife is 5'7 and no problem. It's not the ideal baby mobile, but I still get a major fun-to-drive factor, a fast car, good looks, great fuel economy and for me, most importantly, it's not not an.5.
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| asd (963hp) | For those considering installing baby seats or booster seats in the F10, please note that you need to purchase those with a very small base/support. The rear seats of the F10 are designed in such a way that the wide edges are tilted upwards. The actual usable width of car seats is quite small. I have 8 car seats at home and only 2 of them can barely fit in them.
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| dashawn1 (209hp) | Quote: Originally posted by iwinit For those considering installing infant seats or booster seats in the F10, please note that you should purchase those with a very small base/support. The rear seats of the F10 are designed in such a way that the wide edges are tilted upwards. The actual usable width of car seats is quite small. I have 8 car seats at home and only 2 of them can barely fit. Which ones are you currently using? ??
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| password78 (978hp) | My F10 has no problem with my family of 5. 3 children in the back, including one in a car seat in the middle. Put the kids in an X5 back seat, same situation. You probably save a little in the trunk since there's no cap limit, but who wants to sit in another SUV, I say throw the kids in the back and move on!
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| patch (984hp) | I was thinking about the X6, but it's too big for where I live, so I went with the F10. with F10, stroller in the trunk = no more luggage. curse the back roads and parking lots of Japan...
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| nandhini (734hp) | Yeah. no space in the trunk after a stroller. I should look into a series 7 next haha
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| elite (838hp) | Quote: Posted by sanf Which 2 are you using now? I wouldn't recommend mine. They can barely adapt. It seems the Recaro booster seats are much better. I wish I had heard about Recaro seats before purchasing Graco.
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| arnold1 (257hp) | You're all joking, right? Not enough room for a baby in an F10? Changing diapers in a car? Men!, of course you can do it with one of these cars. The x5 is ideal for off-roading or towing your horses. The F10 is your choice when looking for one of the best-looking luxury sedans of this era. Easy choice, if I may say so.
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| 21101981 (809hp) | Has anyone ever had this problem? How can I fix it? I have already made a backup without problem…
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| banana77 (17hp) | Has anyone had this problem before? How can I fix it? I have already made a backup without problem…
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| 25021977 (373hp) | Because I'm a crazy person and I organize events, I contacted BMWCCA for help with the 15th anniversary of the E46 M3 event. While chatting with them, I brought up the topic of how to attract BMW enthusiasts and younger members to join the national club. Long story short, I have the blessing of BMWCCA to publish this post to gather feedback on how BMWCCA can offer more things for enthusiasts and young members to join the national club. Please post your honest responses below and I will put them together to send nationally. Please also ask all your friends to chime in, whatever their thoughts, so I can present their feelings on a national level. Forum admins, help forum members find this so we can make our voices heard. Please also add your comments on how BMWCCA could support the forum if it has not already done so. The forums are the backbone of the enthusiast community, so we need your input, both good and bad. If people can't answer the forums, ask them to email me at [email protected] with the questions below. 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason why you are not a member? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| 13041984 (703hp) | Quote: Originally posted by m3dragon 1. Are you a current BMWCCA member? Yes. 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Everglades Chapter 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason you have not joined? N/A. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? Patroon chapter several times, not yet with the Everglades chapter. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? Host meet, drive, and dine events at least once a month. 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? Throw in some regional vs. regional softball/volleyball/baseball games for fun. 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? More discounts! 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? That would be interesting. 9. Open the comment/suggestion. It seems the Everglades Chapter has been somewhat quiet lately. They need to offer more events. Florida Bimmer is nice, even though everyone drives either an e92 335/M3. No diversity at all. It would be nice to see owners of e9, e21, e28 as well as e36 and common BMWs from the years 90..
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| ak47ak47 (141hp) | Thanks for the response and congratulations on the car. What M3 are you looking for and you haven't found it?
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| connor08 (936hp) | Because I'm a crazy person and I organize events, I contacted BMWCCA for help with the 15th anniversary of the E46 M3 event. While chatting with them, I brought up the topic of how to attract BMW enthusiasts and younger members to join the national club. Long story short, I have the blessing of BMWCCA to publish this post to gather feedback on how BMWCCA can offer more things for enthusiasts and young members to join the national club. Please post your honest responses below and I will put them together to send nationally. Please also ask all your friends to chime in, whatever their thoughts, so I can present their feelings on a national level. Forum admins, help forum members find this so we can make our voices heard. Please also add your comments on how BMWCCA could support the forum if it has not already done so. The forums are the backbone of the enthusiast community, so we need your input, both good and bad. If people can't answer the forums, ask them to email me at [email protected] with the questions below. 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason why you are not a member? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| katze1 (739hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? yes, since first purchasing Bimmer in 2002. 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know)" Hoosier ch. (Indiana) 3. If you are not a member, what is your reason for not joining? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? yes, dinners, meetings in Indycar garages, etc. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? Fun stuff for car enthusiasts, like Griot's Garage Detail Shop. They've already done it/Plainfield IN 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? The regional October festivals, at the beginning of October? , accessible with a reasonable drive. 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? They already support safe driving school events for teens. They do a lot of cool events. 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? This does not seem practical, except for members, negotiating access to rare genuine BMW parts. 9. Open a comment/suggestion. It pays for itself in spades if you buy a new or CPO vehicle.... sign up now!
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| spcl (93hp) | Quote: Originally posted by m3dragon 1. Are you a current BMWCCA member? No, it was. Quote: 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? GGC Quote: 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason you have not joined? Event track too expensive and too rare compared to the competition. Few events in my region (norcal). I signed up twice just because I wanted to see what it was like, and they got canceled twice. Autocrossers don't have enough driving time. Quote: 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? AutoX, Automotive inspection clinic. Quote: 9. Open a comment/suggestion. Open events to non-members for at least one or two events so they are incentivized to become members. Then charge the fee.
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| 09041983 (815hp) | If you're looking for a younger audience, you might want to try Facebook. Much of the forum traffic has moved to Facebook. As a CCA leader myself, I'd love to see what you find, as this is a topic we've been dealing with for several years. Good luck!
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| 2410 (437hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? No (this used to be the case) 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Hoosier ch. (Indiana) 3. If you are not a member, what is your reason for not joining? I was in Kansas, the Hoosier chapter doesn't have a good website that shows events, so I never know where or when to go. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? Yes, in Kansas. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? Detail Shops, Service Shops, Car Shows, Racing Events, Fast Times Kart Racing Events, Volunteer Work at Food Banks or other locations. 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? More track events. 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? N/A 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? That’s what the forum is for. 9. Open the comment/suggestion. I understand the 10% discount at the dealership is something, but compared to online prices it's not worth it..
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| meisha (724hp) | I am not a member, but I have been part of car clubs before. Here's what I've seen and why some clubs are dying or not growing. When they first arrive there is a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of people involved, then the club gets old, people get busy with other things, life takes over, only a few people actually run the show and they overwork themselves and leave. The people who are still involved are older, so the younger people don't want to be with the older people and even vice versa. Even though you get a range of ages in group activities, the two wants to do are different. The reason I'm not a member and considered becoming a member is because life got in the way, I had too many family and work commitments to add another. I really wanted to join because I want to get involved in track days and that's something I've never done at previous clubs and they didn't offer it. Personally, I don't mind hanging out with the younger ones, but I know people my age and older who don't like the younger ones for various reasons. My son and all his friends are always at my house working on their cars and fixing them because I have more tools than any of them and they like talking to me and I like talking to them because I'm learning lots of them. Just my two cents without answering your questionnaire
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| marshmallow (603hp) | Good answers guys. Keep them coming so I can report it to the National. Maestro thank you for the comments as you see it for your situation. Not everyone is the same so all opinions are welcome..
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| 151090 (529hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? No 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? California Golden Gate Chapter 3. If you are not a member, what is your reason for not joining? No real advantage to joining. Very few events are organized. Supplier discounts are low. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? No 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your area? More autocross events near San Francisco and track day events. Social events, maintenance days where everyone can come together and help work on each other's cars by doing basic maintenance, automotive detailing and projects. 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? It would be helpful to get parts and knowledge on installing DIY parts. 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| Nate4641 (743hp) | Quote: Originally posted by pseto If you're looking for a younger audience, you might want to try Facebook. Much of the forum traffic has moved to Facebook. As a CCA leader myself, I'd love to see what you find, as this is a topic we've been dealing with for several years. Good luck! I beat my local to find out what people want to do. They ignored me and I went national. It was also because I was ignored that I created my own national automobile group in 2006. I created a small one without all the red tape. Just search for my username and you'll see what I'm talking about LOL. I will share the results on any forums where this happens. All I ask is if you can ask people to honestly share their feelings, good and bad..
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| chessmaster (772hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? Yes, since 2006. 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Rocky Mountain Region 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW chapter? No meetings {yawn}. Mainly HPDEs, an AX, I just received my Club Racing license. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? More races, at the PCA 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? Oktoberfest sounds awesome, but it seems to be mostly East Coast. Do two such gatherings per year, one on or near each coast? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? Of course, although we seem to use our regional forum a lot for this purpose, as well as this forum and others. 9. Open the comment/suggestion. For me the club has a sort of Fuddy Duddy reputation, which seems to have been reinforced recently by the Roundel. I used to read mine cover to cover the day it showed up in my mailbox...now it stays. Maybe I've matured as a BMW owner over the past couple of years and don't crave information like I used to. Or maybe I'm just tired of people talking about the damn gauge. I don't know. I know the guys who run the BMWCCA are super nice and I really appreciate that they are looking for ways to reinvigorate the club..
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| casey7 (435hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? Yes 149159 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Gulf Coast 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason you have not joined? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? Yes as often as I'm in town. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? More tech events and driving events, social driving events. 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? More defensive driving events for all ages. 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? Yes 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| ashley99 (966hp) | Because I'm a crazy person and I organize events, I contacted BMWCCA for help with the 15th anniversary of the E46 M3 event. While chatting with them, I brought up the topic of how to attract BMW enthusiasts and younger members to join the national club. Long story short, I have the blessing of BMWCCA to publish this post to gather feedback on how BMWCCA can offer more things for enthusiasts and young members to join the national club. Please post your honest responses below and I will put them together to send nationally. Please also ask all your friends to chime in, whatever their thoughts, so I can present their feelings on a national level. Forum admins, help forum members find this so we can make our voices heard. Please also add your comments on how BMWCCA could support the forum if it has not already done so. The forums are the backbone of the enthusiast community, so we need your input, both good and bad. If people can't answer the forums, ask them to email me at [email protected] with the questions below. 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason why you are not a member? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| 555aaa (930hp) | I was on the BMW CCA website a year or two ago and, to be honest, I didn't see much benefit in joining. People interested enough in these cars to be on the forums are probably smart enough to find a good source of discounted parts, so 10% off at the dealer is nothing. I would be very interested if there were frequent invitations to track days and class work related to racing or track activities. On top of all this, BMW CCA did not explain or solicit reasons why I should join. Advertising or marketing seems non-existent.
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| reefer1 (81hp) | [quote] 1. Are you currently a member of the BMWCCA? no, it was. 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "don't know")? Pacific Northwest-Seattle 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason you are not a member? I joined and quit a year later. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? yes, a track day 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? yes and no. as noted above, most of us find parts through each other and on forums at much lower prices and/or have sponsorship/discount agreements with multiple suppliers. Quote: 9. Open a comment/suggestion. I found track days (a part that interests me) frustrating and too regimented. the instruction was poor, little track time, the cost was high and they refused to move me to a higher group even though I run at an advanced level everywhere else.
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| 140193 (877hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? Yes since 2002 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Evergaldes 3. If you are not a member, what is your reason for not joining? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? yes 5. What activities would you like to see the BMW sections carry out in your region? car show, caravan, auto cross (which allows convertibles) 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? East and West Coast October Festival 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? get dealers more involved in the club 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? maybe, what do you mean precisely? 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| amor1234 (134hp) | For those who aren't members, here are some reasons to join: 15% Dealer Discount: $500 to $1,500 off almost any new BMW (I got 1,000 when I bought an X3 to my wife) Roundel magazine (excellent club magazine, the best I've seen) Local Chapter Events
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| umpqua5 (914hp) | I gave up after my first year of membership. Not much interest in social events. Disappointed for not supporting members facing BMW related issues such as failing HPFPs etc. I felt like they were bowing to BMW instead of representing the owners. Better information/support in these forums.
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| holyghost1 (251hp) | 1. Yes 2. Chicago (aka WindyCity) 3. See #1 4. No 5. Autocrosses/Local Vendor Visits 6. Hmmmm...not sure about this one... 7. Keep the discount going! I also like Roundel. I hate that my two favorite writers can only write every two months now. 8. no 9. To be honest, I don't go to local events because it seems like everyone knows everyone and I don't want to be an outsider. So if there was one way to tell newcomers, we've got just the thing - whether it's one person or multiple people, we'll make sure you're introduced to others and part of the activities - even if you don't do it. I don't know anyone who could encourage me to attend an event/meeting.
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| Munzy (18hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? No 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? AZ has a BMWCCA chapter. A younger crowd runs azbmwcrew. 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason why you are not a member? Too expensive. Scratch that..... Does it have a price at all?? Maybe $20, but just under $50 for a sticker and a magazine? Exclusive events are not happening in my area, discounts available can be compensated in different ways (I've checked a few), I don't see any other benefits from joining. Maybe I just haven't researched it deeply enough, guilty, but it just doesn't sit well with me with the current list of benefits. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? Not yet 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your area? Organized collections, various automotive events, maybe an oil change discount from a dealer group or something...... 6. What activities would you like to see nationally? As noted above, a unified voice across BMW on what we think is both positive and negative. Technical articles, supplier showcases, ideas for formal modifications presented in a professional manner. 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? Not sure 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? That would be nice 9. Open comment/suggestion.[/QUOTE]Did I mention it's too expensive?
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| corazoncito (2hp) | Because I'm a crazy person and I organize events, I contacted BMWCCA for help with the 15th anniversary of the E46 M3 event. While chatting with them, I brought up the topic of how to attract BMW enthusiasts and younger members to join the national club. Long story short, I have the blessing of BMWCCA to publish this post to gather feedback on how BMWCCA can offer more things for enthusiasts and young members to join the national club. Please post your honest responses below and I will put them together to send nationally. Please also ask all your friends to chime in, whatever their thoughts, so I can present their feelings on a national level. Forum admins, help forum members find this so we can make our voices heard. Please also add your comments on how BMWCCA could support the forum if it has not already done so. The forums are the backbone of the enthusiast community, so we need your input, both good and bad. If people can't answer the forums, ask them to email me at [email protected] with the questions below. 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason why you are not a member? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| 280493 (795hp) | Quote: Originally posted by m3dragon 1. Are you a current BMWCCA member? Yes. 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Everglades Chapter 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason you have not joined? N/A. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? Patroon chapter several times, not yet with the Everglades chapter. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? Host meet, drive, and dine events at least once a month. 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? Throw in some regional vs. regional softball/volleyball/baseball games for fun. 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? More discounts! 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? That would be interesting. 9. Open the comment/suggestion. It seems the Everglades Chapter has been somewhat quiet lately. They need to offer more events. Florida Bimmer is nice, even though everyone drives either an e92 335/M3. No diversity at all. It would be nice to see owners of e9, e21, e28 as well as e36 and common BMWs from the years 90..
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| 07011993 (584hp) | Thanks for the response and congratulations on the car. What M3 are you looking for and you haven't found it?
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| kovach8 (267hp) | Because I'm a crazy person and I organize events, I contacted BMWCCA for help with the 15th anniversary of the E46 M3 event. While chatting with them, I brought up the topic of how to attract BMW enthusiasts and younger members to join the national club. Long story short, I have the blessing of BMWCCA to publish this post to gather feedback on how BMWCCA can offer more things for enthusiasts and young members to join the national club. Please post your honest responses below and I will put them together to send nationally. Please also ask all your friends to chime in, whatever their thoughts, so I can present their feelings on a national level. Forum admins, help forum members find this so we can make our voices heard. Please also add your comments on how BMWCCA could support the forum if it has not already done so. The forums are the backbone of the enthusiast community, so we need your input, both good and bad. If people can't answer the forums, ask them to email me at [email protected] with the questions below. 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason why you are not a member? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| kitkat2 (460hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? yes, since first purchasing Bimmer in 2002. 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know)" Hoosier ch. (Indiana) 3. If you are not a member, what is your reason for not joining? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? yes, dinners, meetings in Indycar garages, etc. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? Fun stuff for car enthusiasts, like Griot's Garage Detail Shop. They've already done it/Plainfield IN 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? The regional October festivals, at the beginning of October? , accessible with a reasonable drive. 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? They already support safe driving school events for teens. They organize a lot of cool events. 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? This does not seem practical, except for members, negotiating access to rare genuine BMW parts. 9. Open a comment/suggestion. It pays for itself in spades if you buy a new or CPO vehicle.... sign up now!
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| 03101983 (860hp) | Quote: Originally posted by m3dragon 1. Are you a current BMWCCA member? No, it was. Quote: 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? GGC Quote: 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason you have not joined? Event track too expensive and too rare compared to the competition. Few events in my region (norcal). I signed up twice just because I wanted to see what it was like, and they got canceled twice. Autocrossers don't have enough driving time. Quote: 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? AutoX, Automotive inspection clinic. Quote: 9. Open a comment/suggestion. Open events to non-members for at least one or two events so they are incentivized to become members. Then charge the fee.
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| cheezy (960hp) | If you're looking for a younger audience, you might want to try Facebook. Much of the forum traffic has moved to Facebook. As a CCA leader myself, I'd love to see what you find, as this is a topic we've been dealing with for several years. Good luck!
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| 25051987 (583hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? No (this used to be the case) 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Hoosier ch. (Indiana) 3. If you are not a member, what is your reason for not joining? I was in Kansas, the Hoosier chapter doesn't have a good website that shows events, so I never know where or when to go. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? Yes, in Kansas. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? Detail Shops, Service Shops, Car Shows, Racing Events, Fast Times Kart Racing Events, Volunteer Work at Food Banks or other locations. 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? More track events. 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? N/A 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? That’s what the forum is for. 9. Open the comment/suggestion. I understand the 10% discount at the dealership is something, but compared to online prices it's not worth it..
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| toshiba123 (173hp) | I am not a member, but I have been part of car clubs before. Here's what I've seen and why some clubs are dying or not growing. When they first arrive there is a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of people involved, then the club gets old, people get busy with other things, life takes over, only a few people actually run the show and they overwork themselves and leave. The people who are still involved are older, so the younger people don't want to be with the older people and even vice versa. Even though you get a range of ages in group activities, the two wants to do are different. The reason I'm not a member and considered becoming a member is because life got in the way, I had too many family and work commitments to add another. I really wanted to join because I want to get involved in track days and that's something I've never done at previous clubs and they didn't offer it. Personally, I don't mind hanging out with the younger ones, but I know people my age and older who don't like the younger ones for various reasons. My son and all his friends are always at my house working on their cars and fixing them because I have more tools than any of them and they like talking to me and I like talking to them because I'm learning lots of them. Just my two cents without answering your questionnaire
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| 23071982 (877hp) | Good answers guys. Keep them coming so I can report it to the National. Maestro thank you for the comments as you see it for your situation. Not everyone is the same so all opinions are welcome..
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| popcorn22 (977hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? No 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? California Golden Gate Chapter 3. If you are not a member, what is your reason for not joining? No real advantage to joining. Very few events are organized. Supplier discounts are low. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? No 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your area? More autocross events near San Francisco and track day events. Social events, maintenance days where everyone can come together and help work on each other's cars by doing basic maintenance, automotive detailing and projects. 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? It would be helpful to get parts and knowledge on installing DIY parts. 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| 190909 (744hp) | Quote: Originally posted by pseto If you're looking for a younger audience, you might want to try Facebook. Much of the forum traffic has moved to Facebook. As a CCA leader myself, I'd love to see what you find, as this is a topic we've been dealing with for several years. Good luck! I beat my local to find out what people want to do. They ignored me and I went national. It was also because I was ignored that I created my own national automobile group in 2006. I created a small one without all the red tape. Just search for my username and you'll see what I'm talking about LOL. I will share the results on any forums where this happens. All I ask is if you can ask people to honestly share their feelings, good and bad..
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| merlin123 (457hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? Yes, since 2006. 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Rocky Mountain Region 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW chapter? No meetings {yawn}. Mainly HPDEs, an AX, I just received my Club Racing license. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? More races, at the PCA 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? Oktoberfest sounds awesome, but it seems to be mostly East Coast. Do two such gatherings per year, one on or near each coast? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? Of course, although we seem to use our regional forum a lot for this purpose, as well as this forum and others. 9. Open the comment/suggestion. For me the club has a sort of Fuddy Duddy reputation, which seems to have been reinforced recently by the Roundel. I used to read mine cover to cover the day it showed up in my mailbox...now it stays. Maybe I've matured as a BMW owner over the past couple of years and don't crave information like I used to. Or maybe I'm just tired of people talking about the damn gauge. I don't know. I know the guys who run the BMWCCA are super nice and I really appreciate that they are looking for ways to reinvigorate the club..
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| dondon1 (225hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? Yes 149159 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Gulf Coast 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason you have not joined? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? Yes as often as I'm in town. 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? More tech events and driving events, social driving events. 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? More defensive driving events for all ages. 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? Yes 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| tiger18 (836hp) | Because I'm a crazy person and I organize events, I contacted BMWCCA for help with the 15th anniversary of the E46 M3 event. While chatting with them, I brought up the topic of how to attract BMW enthusiasts and younger members to join the national club. Long story short, I have the blessing of BMWCCA to publish this post to gather feedback on how BMWCCA can offer more things for enthusiasts and young members to join the national club. Please post your honest responses below and I will put them together to send nationally. Please also ask all your friends to chime in, whatever their thoughts, so I can present their feelings on a national level. Forum admins, help forum members find this so we can make our voices heard. Please also add your comments on how BMWCCA could support the forum if it has not already done so. The forums are the backbone of the enthusiast community, so we need your input, both good and bad. If people can't answer the forums, ask them to email me at [email protected] with the questions below. 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason why you are not a member? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your region? 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| 14071977 (662hp) | I was on the BMW CCA website a year or two ago and, to be honest, I didn't see much benefit in joining. People interested enough in these cars to be on the forums are probably smart enough to find a good source of discounted parts, so 10% off at the dealer is nothing. I would be very interested if there were frequent invitations to track days and class work related to racing or track activities. On top of all this, BMW CCA did not explain or solicit reasons why I should join. Advertising or marketing seems non-existent.
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| 130890 (401hp) | [quote] 1. Are you currently a member of the BMWCCA? no, it was. 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "don't know")? Pacific Northwest-Seattle 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason you are not a member? I joined and quit a year later. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? yes, a track day 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? yes and no. as noted above, most of us find parts through each other and on forums at much lower prices and/or have sponsorship/discount agreements with multiple suppliers. Quote: 9. Open a comment/suggestion. I found track days (a part that interests me) frustrating and too regimented. the instruction was poor, little track time, the cost was high and they refused to move me to a higher group even though I run at an advanced level everywhere else.
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| GAMEgates (410hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? Yes since 2002 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? Evergaldes 3. If you are not a member, what is your reason for not joining? 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? yes 5. What activities would you like to see the BMW sections carry out in your region? car show, caravan, auto cross (which allows convertibles) 6. What activities would you like to see at the national level? East and West Coast October Festival 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? get dealers more involved in the club 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? maybe, what do you mean precisely? 9. Open comment/suggestion.
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| jonathan16 (754hp) | For those who aren't members, here are some reasons to join: 15% Dealer Discount: $500 to $1,500 off almost any new BMW (I got 1,000 when I bought an X3 to my wife) Roundel magazine (excellent club magazine, the best I've seen) Local Chapter Events
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| christoph (561hp) | I gave up after my first year of membership. Not much interest in social events. Disappointed for not supporting members facing BMW related issues such as failing HPFPs etc. I felt like they were bowing to BMW instead of representing the owners. Better information/support in these forums.
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| aud (79hp) | 1. Yes 2. Chicago (aka WindyCity) 3. See #1 4. No 5. Autocrosses/Local Vendor Visits 6. Hmmmm...not sure about this one... 7. Keep the discount going! I also like Roundel. I hate that my two favorite writers can only write every two months now. 8. no 9. To be honest, I don't go to local events because it seems like everyone knows everyone and I don't want to be an outsider. So if there was one way to tell newcomers, we've got just the thing - whether it's one person or multiple people, we'll make sure you're introduced to others and part of the activities - even if you don't do it. I don't know anyone who could get me to an event/meeting.
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| 120288 (919hp) | 1. Are you currently a BMWCCA member? No 2. What is your regional club (if you don't know, just say "I don't know")? AZ has a BMWCCA chapter. A younger crowd runs azbmwcrew. 3. If you are not a member, what is the reason why you are not a member? Too expensive. Scratch that..... Does it have a price at all?? Maybe $20, but just under $50 for a sticker and a magazine? Exclusive events are not happening in my area, discounts available can be compensated in different ways (I've checked a few), I don't see any other benefits from joining. Maybe I just haven't researched it deeply enough, guilty, but it just doesn't sit well with me with the current list of benefits. 4. Have you attended a meeting or event with a BMW section? Not yet 5. What activities would you like to see BMW sections carry out in your area? Organized collections, various automotive events, maybe an oil change discount from a dealer group or something...... 6. What activities would you like to see nationally? As noted above, a unified voice across BMW on what we think is both positive and negative. Technical articles, supplier showcases, ideas for formal modifications presented in a professional manner. 7. What types of programs would you like to see supported by BMWCCA? Not sure 8. Would you like BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts acquire parts for projects? That would be nice 9. Open comment/suggestion.[/QUOTE]Did I mention it was too expensive?
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| maitland571ka1994 (375hp) | I'm only posting this here because there is no one in the E60 section and many of you have owned E60. I'm trying to find the best model for me. THANKS.
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| 2603 (839hp) | M5
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| hubertus (675hp) | Quote: Posted by ajandhek M5 No, I don't have any M5 money. Just the regular series model.
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| 051194 (883hp) | go for an 07+ 550i with a 6MT
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| da1234 (213hp) | My budget is €15,000 and less. I went to cars.com and found some with good mileage, it's just harder to find them.
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| Rush2808 (778hp) | 2008 550i M Sport was the best E60 ever produced. Excellent m-sport suspension. Carbon black metallic paint and black leather. The bomb.
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| kindred (935hp) | I would have a 2008 535i. I owned one and it was awesome, especially with the way the car responds to a tune, you'll be able to walk those e60 550s. But that's just fixed. I had quite a bit of fun with the 550s in my e60 535i and all I had was a catback exhaust and a stock tuning ecu flash..
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| leboss (176hp) | Quote: Originally posted by RambleJ I would get a 2008 535i. I owned one and it was great, especially with the way the car reacts to a tune, you can walk those e60 550s around. is that settled. I had quite a bit of fun with the 550s in my e60 535i and all I had was a catback exhaust and a stock tuning ecu flash. I try to stay away from turbos because of my budget. I've seen a lot of nice 530i's. Do they have any major issues I should look for ?
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| streets (864hp) | Quote: Originally posted by pharding The 2008 550i M Sport was the best E60 ever produced. Excellent m-sport suspension. Carbon black metallic paint and black leather. The bomb. +1 if I was looking for e60, 08-10 550i msport. Obviously if you're on a budget, 08 would probably be best.
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| pAss2244 (682hp) | Correct me if I'm wrong... but wasn't LCI for the E60 in 2008? I had an 05 E60 and I loved it...it was my first BMW. OP, I would try to get at least an 08 so you have the newer LED tails and headlights. I think 08 might also have the new Nav.
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| luis17 (390hp) | Quote: Originally published by Bmwkid98 My budget is €15,000 and less. I've been on cars.com and found some with good mileage, it's just harder to find them. Seriously, if your budget is so limited, you can't afford the repair bill.
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| treble (902hp) | Quote: Originally published by The X Men Seriously, if your budget is that limited, you can't afford the repair bill. That may be true...but I still say buy the car! There are ways to solve problems on a limited budget. Maybe learn how to do it yourself or find an independent store in your area that you can trust. Buy one and join the BMW OP family!
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| 151286 (515hp) | $15000 USD will get you 2005-04 545i or 2005-06 528i. I'd go for the 528i if I were you, less stuff to break on it. Got it with the manual, if you can too, the automatics are dodgy on the E60.
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| 310791 (687hp) | I would go for the 530i. Very good naturally aspirated engine, maybe go for a 2006 model as that's when they introduced the 255 hp, 220 lb-ft. of torque 330 / 530 engines
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| q1w2e3r4t5y6u7 (684hp) | I just traded my E60 08 535i sport for an f11 528. The E60 was fun but expensive so I would buy the 528
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| gay101 (444hp) | Previously I drove E60 520i SE Manual (2004 Titanium Silver) and 525d M-Sport Auto (2008 Space Gray). The 525d was from the time when BMW was introducing efficient dynamic elements - it was very economical but its performance was also excellent for a 3.0 engine. The most beautiful and most enjoyable to drive from M-Sport. The first SE was smooth and comfortable, but not very suited to enthusiastic driving. The manual gearbox wasn't great. Later models (LCI/Facelift) had some updated touches and would be my preference. Auto too. Awesome car, you will be very happy with all variants.
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| JDMSteven (253hp) | 08 or beyond (LCI) with m-sport. From there, it’s linked to the budget. If you can afford it, the 550 is absolutely the way to go, but there's nothing wrong with the 535 if that suits you better..
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| qwerty2012 (526hp) | The E60 is a hideous car...it looks somewhat decent in the 550i Msport version due to the nice rims. I still can't get past those headlights after all these years. Both the E39 and F10 5 series are timeless designs.
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| buford (683hp) | I'm only posting this here because there is no one in the E60 section and many of you have owned E60. I'm trying to find the best model for me. THANKS.
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| apex (623hp) | M.5
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| mike89 (245hp) | Quote: Posted by ajandhek M5 No, I don't have any M5 money. Just the regular series model.
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| GazBeemer (72hp) | go for an 07+ 550i with a 6MT
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| pepsi21 (765hp) | The GT is pretty ugly but I don't think it's the ugliest car on this list!
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| hamster2 (121hp) | My budget is €15,000 and less. I went to cars.com and found some with good mileage, it's just harder to find them.
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| 07071979 (865hp) | I think what made the GT look bad was the fact that it was a bit taller than the F10, and also that they made the rear a bit higher. BMW should just lower the roofline of the GT to the height of the F10, which will automatically allow a lower rear end and accentuate the coupe silhouette a bit more, the car would look much better original, especially . with M Sport. The front of the GT isn't that different from the F10, aside from larger grilles and more different headlights (which I actually prefer over the F10, as they are angled upwards and have the more aggressive looks, rather than the small downward tilt of the F10's headlights) so this should remain unchanged. The GT is based more on the F01, so it shares more proportions with the 7er than the F10. The GT is more than 2 times wider than an F10, bigger rims and tires (same specs as the F01), has a lot more interior space, a panoramic roof (honestly, it was one of my favorite little features) and the double opening trunk is very useful in different situations. The GT really should have been a 7er, since they have more in common. I think the F10 is a great car, but when you sit in the back of a GT the F10 doesn't compare at all, and I know many don't care much about space for legs in the back, but it's the perfect family car, and you can be comfortable throughout long trips. By lowering my GT, I think it improved the look considerably. You can see in the photos below that a lowered GT looks no higher than a lowered F10 (Stevo_N63's driving). However, if BMW designers follow the suggestions I wrote above, the car will look much better from the factory itself, not to mention lowering it. Salt Pepper: F07 F10 by dinan_gt, on Flickr Salt Pepper: F07 F10 by dinan_gt, on Flickr
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| sugarplum (722hp) | 2008 550i M Sport was the best E60 ever produced. Excellent m-sport suspension. Carbon black metallic paint and black leather. The bomb.
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