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| quaker (831hp) | Quote: Originally written by remmib. I like that, even if they are way too expensive here in Norway. Why are you US people so negative?! You don't need to be afraid of M-exclusivity as it does NOT apply to entry into the USA. But some of the gasoline models will make it to the US, starting with the x1 m35i xdrive - http://e84.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649651. I say: bring it on. Too many of you place too much value on badges and labels. Who cares as long as the cars work and look good.
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| fmmedia (811hp) | This M550d is somehow paired with the 550i in terms of performance, the same goes for the 535d with 535i, the same goes for the new 525d with the new 528i... I don't know how many of you understood that this correspondence at M5 is on a completely different level when it comes to sporty driving and dynamics! For the European market, sales of these V8 petrol engines are very low, so BMW offered the Wright alternative (M550d)! Everything is done taking into account fuel prices, the cost of the final product and the benefits: it is clear that these diesel engine cars cannot have a very good price in the USA at the moment, so BMW will only waste money adapting these cars for the NA market!
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| deadlock (62hp) | Personally, I love the idea of this car. With all the fuss about the M'ness of the car, will this new model range carry the VIN number WBAXX or WBSXXX??
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| famous21 (303hp) | Quote: Originally written by flaviubratis M=petrol engine, reverse gear, manual transmission No, times are changing - live with it
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| college09 (768hp) | Quote: Originally written by VintageBMW Honestly, that just really annoys me! I'm sick of all the great diesel products Europe and the rest of the world are getting and BMW won't sell them in the US. I have a 2010 X5 35d that I'm in love with - my first diesel and BMW diesel is now all I want to own. I would love a 5 series diesel, the X5 550d or whatever the hell they call it now – but NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I can't get one. I truly believe that BMWNA is run by idiots. I agree with the sentiment about the lack of North American diesel models, but to that you can also add the lack of North American touring models. It's bad enough seeing the beautiful new 5 Series wagon on this forum and not being able to buy it in the States, but now we have to be convinced by an M550D. Instead, our market is offered the AZTEC/5GT?? BMW customers should be more demanding than the crossover trend seekers. As far as the wagon situation goes, the consolation prize is a 328 Touring... cheers!
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| PlcmSpIp2 (225hp) | So if you want this tri-turbo diesel in the new 1 Series Coupé, you might be tempted!
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| 270589 (399hp) | It's a shame we can't have V8 diesel engines
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| sweets123 (633hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jaekeem I really wish they would bring these models to the US. I would order the M550d xDrive as a replacement for my current F10 535 just for the performance and gas mileage. The main reason I got a 535 in the first place was the significant difference in MPG compared to the 550. I drive an average of 25,000 miles per year and the performance of a 550 with better MPG than a 535 is perfect for me. That's a nice ride you took there.
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| chuck (942hp) | Quote: Originally posted by npd2983 Quote: Originally posted by VintageBMW Honestly, this just really pisses me off! I'm sick of all the great diesel products Europe and the rest of the world are getting and BMW won't sell them in the US. I have a 2010 X5 35d that I'm in love with - my first diesel and BMW diesel is now all I want to own. I would love a 5 series diesel, the X5 550d or whatever the hell they call it now – but NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I can't get one. I truly believe that BMWNA is run by idiots. I agree with the sentiment about the lack of North American diesel models, but to that you can also add the lack of North American touring models. It's bad enough seeing the beautiful new 5 Series wagon on this forum and not being able to buy it in the States, but now we have to be convinced by an M550D. Instead, our market is offered the AZTEC/5GT?? BMW customers should be more demanding than the crossover trend seekers. As far as the wagon situation goes, the consolation prize is a 328 Touring... Cheers! Interesting comparison, 5 Series GT/Pontiac Aztec. Someone said the GT looked like a Saab 900, not very flattering (for the Saab!) I wonder if the guys in lab coats in Munich heard that. Hopefully they did that so they can put an end to the GT's misery...
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| СР(407hp) | After reading this thread and doing some research, I'm still confused. Are there any parts on this car other than the engine and M-tuned suspension that are different than my 550xi??
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| 30051993 (79hp) | Quote: Originally written by kaishang It is not the 460 Nm that is small, but the ratio of this value to the torque at 2000 rpm that is small. When driving in city traffic, accelerating to 2000 rpm will produce an additional 70% of torque. This will make driving in roundabouts quite difficult. With 3 x turbochargers, BMW should have done something flatter. Please show me a flat curve of a diesel engine.
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| 005005 (252hp) | Quote: Originally posted by thepest Please show me a flat curve of a diesel engine. With a diesel there is never a flat curve, but a curve that is much, much less sharp than this M550d engine and a curve where maximum torque arrives much earlier than 2000 rpm on this engine.
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| sans2010 (994hp) | Quote: Originally posted by kaishang With a diesel you never get a flat corner, you get a corner that is much, much less sharp than this M550d engine and a corner where peak torque is reached much earlier than 2000rpm comes to this engine. Of course there is no flat curve with a diesel. You finally got it.
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| xavier123 (459hp) | Seriously, don't worry about the high peak because as you mentioned there is a gearbox and differential to take care of it. This is completely normal for a high-performance engine. We're just talking about a measly 3-liter engine. Yes, it produces its maximum torque at 2,000 rpm, but it also has ~700 Nm at 1750 rpm and ~650 Nm at 1500 rpm. You would love to drive that! I would! PS If anything, I'm surprised they managed to maintain peak torque up to 3,000 rpm!
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| paroli (756hp) | This engine is definitely a masterpiece! Combined with sport auto's 8-speed gearbox, it is designed to provide a smooth/sporty ride with incredibly low fuel consumption
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| 110100 (91hp) | lol come on BMW...you make the cars in the USA...let's drive it too. Don't hate us because we have cheaper gas
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| nnamdi (586hp) | Quote: Originally written by vladberca This M550d is somehow paired with the 550i in terms of performance, same goes for the 535d with 535i, same goes for the new 525d with the new 528i... I don't know how many of you have this Correspondence to the M5 has been understood on a completely different level in terms of sporty driving and dynamics! For the European market, sales of these V8 petrol engines are very low, so BMW offered the Wright alternative (M550d)! Everything is done taking into account fuel prices, the cost of the final product and the benefits: it is clear that these cars with diesel engines cannot have a very good price in the USA at the moment, so BMW will only waste money to adapt these cars for the NA market! So BMW has yet to launch a diesel equivalent to the M5. It will have four turbos and is called: BMW M5 560d M-sport M Performance Edition ///M
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| hollowman (454hp) | Quote: Originally written by Thud So BMW has yet to release a diesel that matches the M5. It will have four turbos and is called: BMW M5 560d M-Sport M Performance Edition ///M That's a lot of M:s...
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| dodgers (609hp) | There was a review of the M550D online at AutoCar that was posted this morning but has now been removed. I wonder why it basically kills the M5 in every way except 0-62mph, supposedly it's a monster.
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| bettyboo1 (921hp) | Quote: Originally posted by MikeyV. There was a test of the M550D online at AutoCar. It was posted this morning but has now been removed. I wonder why it basically kills the M5 in every way except 0-62 mph. He is reportedly a monster. I just read it a few hours ago. There it is. http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...xDrive/261468/
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| 25031990 (689hp) | Quote: Originally written by ilya335 Inline-6 with three turbochargers sounds great! Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure these vehicles won't make it to the US. Yes, the inline-6 with tri-turbo engine is pretty cool. It's definitely unfortunate that these models aren't making it to the US. Shit! Why does BMW do this? Don't show love to the USA.!!!
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| 01121983 (896hp) | http://www.insideline.com/bmw/5-seri...rst-drive.html Read the comments below. Someone mentioned that the car could do 73 mpg! Crazy! Crazy... If that's the case (73 MPG) WE REALLY NEED the M550d here considering gas is so expensive here. But is that true?? 73 mpg?? If you do the math, you get about 36 mpg. I don't know how the guy who commented on Insideline got 73 mpg.
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| briana12 (516hp) | Hello Team... I currently have my 2012 F10 for sale. I realized that I don't like owning cars without a warranty. I'm thinking about leasing a 2015 F10, but I've never done a lease in my life. Here's the thing... I wonder how much of a discount dealers are giving when they ditch the 2015 models to make room for the 2016 models. The car I'm looking at has an MSRP of $60,160. What would be a good target price for this car to lease??
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| bobina (885hp) | Quote: Originally posted by f10inSD Hello Team... I currently have my 2012 F10 for sale. I realized that I don't like owning cars without a warranty. I'm thinking about leasing a 2015 F10, but I've never done a lease in my life. Here's the thing... I wonder how much of a discount dealers are giving when they ditch the 2015 models to make room for the 2016 models. The car I'm looking at has an MSRP of $60,160. What would be a good target price for leasing negotiations for this car? A month ago I negotiated a down payment of $2,500 (including all fees) + $580/month (including 7% FL sales tax) with 7x MSD for a 15 F10 worth $62,000 for 3 years / 10,000 per year. After negotiating with three dealers I felt this was good value for money. With more 16s on the lot, you might be able to do better now.
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| hvsar (383hp) | Quote: Originally posted by JesseSRQ A month ago I negotiated $2,500 down (including all fees) + $580/mo (including 7% Florida sales tax) with 7x MSD for a $62,000 F10 '15 for 3 years/10,000 per year . After negotiating with three dealers I felt this was good value for money. With more 16s on the lot, you might be able to do better now. So you paid 60,000 on the spot? So before fees your offer was around 55.000?
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| bahrain (585hp) | Quote: Originally posted by f10inSD Quote: Originally posted by JesseSRQ A month ago I have $2,500 down payment (including all fees) + $580/mo (including 7% FL sales tax) with 7x MSD on a $62,000 F10 '15 for 3 negotiated years / 10,000 per year. After negotiating with three dealers I felt this was good value for money. With more 16s on the lot, you might be able to do better now. So you paid 60,000 on the spot? So your offer was around 55,000 before fees? Yes, $55,200
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| champion2 (707hp) | If you're someone who drives 10,000 to 12,000 miles per year, leasing is a good option. However, I'm not sure I would put any investment or effort into modifications since you would have to restore the car to the condition you received it in before returning it.
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| 5blood (723hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Alcenos If you are someone who drives 10,000 to 12,000 miles per year, leasing is a good option. However, I'm not sure I would put any investment or effort into modifications since you would have to restore the car to the condition you received it in before returning it. Depends on what these mods are. I just leased a '15 M Sport F10 and added a rear spoiler, CF side markers and painted reflectors that I won't bother removing when I take it back. If you lower the car or install a different exhaust, it's a different story.
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| scully (897hp) | Bmwusa offers a 3 year lease for 579/month with 5,000 down payment including taxes, first month payment and 2500 down payment. Seems like a good offer to me.
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| G.I.Joe (724hp) | Quote: Originally posted by f10inSD Hello Team... I currently have my 2012 F10 for sale. I realized that I don't like owning cars without a warranty. I'm thinking about leasing a 2015 F10, but I've never done a lease in my life. Here's the thing... I wonder how much of a discount dealers are giving when they ditch the 2015 models to make room for the 2016 models. The car I'm looking at has an MSRP of $60,160. What would be a good target price for leasing negotiations for this car? This is the best time to buy a 2015 F10. Last week I bought a 528i xdrive m Sport. MSRP $58,960 Down payment $2950 No MSD 36 months/mileage 10,000 per year payment - $539
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| 230182 (383hp) | I got my F10 in August 2015. 535M Sport
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| news (554hp) | I just leased a car for my wife, 2015 528xdrive with premium package, cold and driver assistance. 59k stickers. 1,000 out of pocket, 36 months 10,000 years for 570 months including taxes.
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| humaira (980hp) | Hello Team... I currently have my 2012 F10 for sale. I realized that I don't like owning cars without a warranty. I'm thinking about leasing a 2015 F10, but I've never done a lease in my life. Here's the thing... I wonder how much of a discount dealers are giving when they ditch the 2015 models to make room for the 2016 models. The car I'm looking at has an MSRP of $60,160. What would be a good target price for this car to lease??
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| meiling (966hp) | Quote: Originally posted by f10inSD Hello Team... I currently have my 2012 F10 for sale. I realized that I don't like owning cars without a warranty. I'm thinking about leasing a 2015 F10, but I've never done a lease in my life. Here's the thing... I wonder how much of a discount dealers are giving when they ditch the 2015 models to make room for the 2016 models. The car I'm looking at has an MSRP of $60,160. What would be a good target price for leasing negotiations for this car? A month ago I negotiated a down payment of $2,500 (including all fees) + $580/month (including 7% FL sales tax) with 7x MSD for a 15 F10 worth $62,000 for 3 years / 10,000 per year. After negotiating with three dealers I felt this was good value for money. With more 16s on the lot, you might be able to do better now.
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| gracie4 (947hp) | Quote: Originally posted by JesseSRQ A month ago I negotiated $2,500 down (including all fees) + $580/mo (including 7% Florida sales tax) with 7x MSD for a $62,000 F10 '15 for 3 years/10,000 per year . After negotiating with three dealers I felt this was good value for money. With more 16s on the lot, you might be able to do better now. So you paid 60,000 on the spot? So before fees your offer was around 55.000?
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| 22061996 (355hp) | Quote: Originally posted by f10inSD Quote: Originally posted by JesseSRQ A month ago I have $2,500 down payment (including all fees) + $580/mo (including 7% FL sales tax) with 7x MSD on a $62,000 F10 '15 for 3 negotiated years / 10,000 per year. After negotiating with three dealers I felt this was good value for money. With more 16s on the lot, you might be able to do better now. So you paid 60,000 on the spot? So your offer was around 55,000 before fees? Yes, $55,200
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| vince (852hp) | If you're someone who drives 10,000 to 12,000 miles per year, leasing is a good option. However, I'm not sure I would put any investment or effort into modifications since you would have to restore the car to the condition you received it in before returning it.
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| nivram (905hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Alcenos If you are someone who drives 10,000 to 12,000 miles per year, leasing is a good option. However, I'm not sure I would put any investment or effort into modifications since you would have to restore the car to the condition you received it in before returning it. Depends on what these mods are. I just leased a '15 M Sport F10 and added a rear spoiler, CF side markers and painted reflectors that I won't bother removing when I take it back. If you lower the car or install a different exhaust, it's a different story.
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| gofuckyour (612hp) | Bmwusa offers a 3 year lease for 579/month with 5,000 down payment including taxes, first month payment and 2500 down payment. Seems like a good offer to me.
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| snowhite (400hp) | Quote: Originally posted by f10inSD Hello Team... I currently have my 2012 F10 for sale. I realized that I don't like owning cars without a warranty. I'm thinking about leasing a 2015 F10, but I've never done a lease in my life. Here's the thing... I wonder how much of a discount dealers are giving when they ditch the 2015 models to make room for the 2016 models. The car I'm looking at has an MSRP of $60,160. What would be a good target price for this car to negotiate for a lease? This is the best time to buy a 2015 F10. Last week I bought a 528i xdrive m Sport. MSRP $58,960 Down payment $2950 No MSD 36 months/mileage 10,000 per year payment - $539
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| bloger01 (225hp) | I got my F10 in August 2015. 535M Sport
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| laughing (139hp) | I just leased a car for my wife, 2015 528xdrive with premium package, cold and driver assistance. 59k stickers. 1,000 out of pocket, 36 months 10,000 years for 570 months including taxes.
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| tobacco (321hp) | Try Scrubbing Bubbles bathroom cleaner - I use it to remove the soot from my boat's transom and clean the interior. I'm always finding new uses for this stuff, who knows, maybe this will work on your glass too.
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| oilcrankinject (873hp) | Quote: Originally written by Chili Palmer Try Scrubbing Bubbles bathroom cleaner - I use it to remove the soot from the transom of my boat and clean the interior. I'm always finding new uses for this stuff, who knows, maybe this will work on your glass too. Thanks, but I'll check first to see if the glass is scratched! On the other hand, it is safe to assume that cleaning bladders would help prevent carbon buildup on the tailpipes?
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| holla! (453hp) | Quote: Originally posted by dbs600 I think I'll hold off on the Magic Eraser: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load...9048086.html?4 Hmmm... I wouldn't think that would scratch . My wife uses it to clean our main shower (all glass), as well as the stove, oven doors, etc. - all glass. Granted, if it had left very fine scratches, perhaps we wouldn't notice? I think you can always test it on something else first. It's basically like a white sponge material... doesn't seem abrasive enough to scratch. But even if you don't use it for your car, it's just a great product to have around the house!
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| peluche1 (428hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass Hmmm... I wouldn't think it would scratch. My wife uses it to clean our main shower (all glass), as well as the stove, oven doors, etc. - all glass. Granted, if it had left very fine scratches, perhaps we wouldn't notice? I think you can always test it on something else first. It's basically like a white sponge material... doesn't seem abrasive enough to scratch. But even if you don't use it for your car, it's just a great product to have around the house! Thank you again, sir!
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| cloakster (148hp) | Quote: Originally written by dbs600 Thanks, but I'll check first to see if the glass is scratched! On the other hand, do you think cleaning the bladders would help with the carbon buildup on the tailpipes? Similar to a magic eraser, I don't think scrubbing bubbles will result in scratches. This is another product we used in the bathroom and shower...again, all glass - mainly to remove soap scum and film from the glass. I didn't notice it scratching anything. But it's worth trying.
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| espresso (80hp) | It's hard to tell from the photo if there is something on the glass or if it is damaged, but either way it should be repairable by either cleaning or polishing. Have you ever seen the cars with detailed videos from AMMO NYC? Maybe the car details are a bit exaggerated, but I enjoy looking at them and picked up some good car cleaning tips. This is about cleaning the windshield. Maybe something in this video will work, razor blades, polish, etc. I think this guy is in your area. Maybe he should try it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=aVUtdlzrktI
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| raulito (816hp) | Quote: Originally written by dbs600 Thanks, but I'll check first to see if the glass is scratched! On the other hand, do you think cleaning the bladders would help with the carbon buildup on the tailpipes? I wouldn't think SB would cause scratches, I used it all over the fiberglass hull and didn't see any scratches on my gelcoat, but I would hold off on the Magic Eraser - it says not to use it on any I would still be careful with painted or shiny surfaces, even though glass is quite resistant. Clay bar can work.
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| GrabacrOne (50hp) | Thank you for your support, gentlemen! Let's see what happens... :|
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| 199018 (508hp) | Quote: Originally written by dbs600. I'm not sure what to say!? Shortly after picking up my car, I noticed the problem attached in addition to the windshield problem because it was "detailed." Unfortunately, I forgot to mention the attached document when I brought the car back to have the windshield repaired as I drove around with the windows down for about a week and a half to try to ventilate the foul smell of the interior air freshener. Now that I've finished airing out the car and it's not so humid anymore, I left the windows open and the following came to my mind again! So I tried using dishwashing detergent but it doesn't come off!? Stopped at the dealer, the detailer tried a few different products, none of which worked, showed it to the manager, and tried Ajax, which didn't work either. He said when I get home to try vinegar and/or lemon juice and if neither works he will replace the window!? Scratching the affected area with a fingernail produces a squeaking/corrosive sound that cannot be heard on other parts of the glass. The manager also tried using a razor, but that didn't help. I can't believe it, what could this be? I took it to an auto body shop afterward and they said it could be either concrete, limestone, or tree sap, but it definitely doesn't look like tree sap to me!? Thoughts on what that could be!? It is located along part of the bottom edge of the driver's door. No other windows appear to have the same. Definitely from the outside, not from the inside. It's nice that the dealer offers a new window without any problem, but it would need to be re-tinted (which they will do), but who knows if the tint will fit (the tinting was done three years ago at my selling dealer and... I have no idea what brand/model of tint was used and doubt they would know either). By the way, that's the reflection of another car next to mine. I hope the vinegar and/or lemon juice helps! Argh!!! Clay bar + possibly polishing. Check out this video from Ammo NYC. http://www.ammonyc.com/detailing/car...ing-polishing/
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| heffs550 (402hp) | I still have what is shown on my windshield in the first picture above. The dealer previously polished my driver's door window similarly, but concluded that the vertical lines on the other door windows were from the tint peeling off. My windshield has gotten a little better since then, but I would like to fix the problem and the dealer just wrote this: “This work was done using a small orbital polisher and glass polishing compound. Since there are hard water stains, it must be removed with an abrasive. The technician who did this work did so just to prove what it was by cleaning a piece of glass. This is not our normal scope of work and given our hourly labor costs, it makes no sense to do this work here. My recommendation is to find a glass shop that does window polishing and probably have the job done for less than a hundred dollars. Look for a small mom and pop store.” Does anyone know of any stores on Long Island near Manhattan that would do the same thing for my windshield? Thanks.
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| mike31 (191hp) | Does anyone know if it's OK to use WD-40 or AFTA to clean the glass on our cars???
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| 22101980 (417hp) | Not WD-40. Leaves an oily layer but this should wear off over time.
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| beachbabe1 (430hp) | Hey man, I use this stuff to clean pretty much everything in my car. Even old, dirty grease stains can be removed without the need for a steamer. It also works on Windows. http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-PC2008...pti+powerclean
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| hellsbells (510hp) | Try Scrubbing Bubbles bathroom cleaner - I use it to remove the soot from my boat's transom and clean the interior. I'm always finding new uses for this stuff, who knows, maybe this will work on your glass too.
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| 171180 (73hp) | Quote: Originally written by Chili Palmer Try Scrubbing Bubbles bathroom cleaner - I use it to remove the soot from the transom of my boat and clean the interior. I'm always finding new uses for this stuff, who knows, maybe this will work on your glass too. Thanks, but I'll check first to see if the glass is scratched! On the other hand, it is safe to assume that cleaning bladders would help prevent carbon buildup on the tailpipes?
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| Mookie77 (231hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NewM3driver How about the fact that the car no longer drives like a BMW, but rides, drives and steers like my grandfather's old Buick? Honestly the car is a very boring drive. Quite a disappointment. Agree. Maybe not as bad as an old Buick, but no better than a new Buick. It is now a luxury car. I will never buy another one after this one.
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| coniglio (999hp) | Quote: Originally posted by dbs600 I think I'll hold off on the Magic Eraser: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load...9048086.html?4 Hmmm... I wouldn't think that would scratch . My wife uses it to clean our main shower (all glass), as well as the stove, oven doors, etc. - all glass. Granted, if it had left very fine scratches, perhaps we wouldn't notice? I think you can always test it on something else first. It's basically like a white sponge material... doesn't seem abrasive enough to scratch. But even if you don't use it for your car, it's just a great product to have around the house!
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| mobius1 (611hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NewM3driver How about the fact that the car no longer drives like a BMW, but rides, drives and steers like my grandfather's old Buick? Honestly the car is a very boring drive. Quite a disappointment. Quote: Originally posted by WillInDenver. Agree. Maybe not as bad as an old Buick, but no better than a new Buick. It is now a luxury car. I will never buy another one after this one. I think you're exaggerating. I understand that you don't like the F10 and won't buy another, but I would like to hear your opinion on which car in this class is more exciting to drive ?
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| gangstah (680hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass Hmmm... I wouldn't think it would scratch. My wife uses it to clean our main shower (all glass), as well as the stove, oven doors, etc. - all glass. Granted, if it had left very fine scratches, perhaps we wouldn't notice? I think you can always test it on something else first. It's basically like a white sponge material... doesn't seem abrasive enough to scratch. But even if you don't use it for your car, it's just a great product to have around the house! Thank you again, sir!
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| dark (432hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Bbb34 I think you're exaggerating. I understand that you don't like the F10 and won't buy another, but I would like to hear your opinion on which car in this class is more exciting to drive? I'm wondering the same thing, I'm completely happy with my F11 wagon with Adaptive Drive, compared to my E39 wagon with M-Tech suspension. In fact, I like the F11 even better because it has suspension modes that suit the roads and my driving mood. What we have to remember is that we drive a small 7 Series these days and not a larger 3 Series. 3 Series users are also complaining as they too are now sitting in a more sophisticated and larger car. HighlandPete
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| funtime1 (542hp) | Quote: Originally written by dbs600 Thanks, but I'll check first to see if the glass is scratched! On the other hand, do you think cleaning the bladders would help with the carbon buildup on the tailpipes? Similar to a magic eraser, I don't think scrubbing bubbles will result in scratches. This is another product we used in the bathroom and shower...again, all glass - mainly to remove soap scum and film from the glass. I didn't notice it scratching anything. But it's worth trying.
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| 14061977 (300hp) | I suspect that your background will also influence your thoughts on this. I've had many M-Sport BMWs and experienced some rock-hard suspension settings for looks and better handling, but often when I was tired and driving home I found myself wondering if I should opt for something more forgiving next time. But when it came down to it, I couldn't bring myself to buy anything other than M Sport. I came to the F10 via an E70 and from my point of view this car feels great, it has a lot of similarities with the X5 but is much better to drive, better technology, better interior and surprisingly the ride isn't as harsh either, so I really like the setup. I've noticed that many of the most critical posts come from the previous generation 5, so it seems that it has lost some of the flexibility of that and the previous 5s. However, this is not a problem for me as I have no basis for a direct comparison...
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| 071195 (506hp) | It's hard to tell from the photo if there is something on the glass or if it is damaged, but either way it should be repairable by either cleaning or polishing. Have you ever seen the cars with detailed videos from AMMO NYC? Maybe the car details are a bit exaggerated, but I enjoy looking at them and picked up some good car cleaning tips. This is about cleaning the windshield. Maybe something in this video will work, razor blades, polish, etc. I think this guy is in your area. Maybe he should try it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=aVUtdlzrktI
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| outcast1 (636hp) | Quote: Originally written by The Beast. I think your background will also influence your opinion on this topic... I'm sure it does. I upgraded from an E91 330d to my F11 so I'm very aware that I've moved to a much bigger and better car. I wanted to switch from the E39 to an E60/1 but I just didn't like the fact that it wasn't a trustworthy car on British roads. I was very disappointed with the driving characteristics of the demo cars I tried. An E61 M-Sport 535d was so harsh and just bounced around on my typical roads that I passed on it, opting for an E91 as a compromise. I had an LCI E61 535d that I was able to use on local roads for a week, a significantly improved chassis over the original model. I almost made the decision to buy it, but since I had modified the suspension and wheels of my E91 to achieve a good balance between ride and handling, I decided to wait for the next model. When I got into the F11 with the right wheels and suspension, I went straight back to the E39 likenesses, a car that I rated as a top-of-the-line vehicle due to a mix of outstanding qualities. For me, the F11 is the natural evolution of the E39, very similar in terms of powertrain, only more advanced and with better technology. The only negative is that it has gotten larger with each generation, but this is a common problem throughout the automotive industry. Personally, I can't imagine a better car to drive at the moment. If the 3 Series matched its performance mix in the smaller body, that would be attractive, but in my opinion the 3 Series just isn't in the same league. HighlandPete
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| critters (211hp) | Quote: Originally written by dbs600 Thanks, but I'll check first to see if the glass is scratched! On the other hand, do you think cleaning the bladders would help with the carbon buildup on the tailpipes? I wouldn't think SB would cause scratches, I used it all over the fiberglass hull and didn't see any scratches on my gelcoat, but I would hold off on the Magic Eraser - it says not to use it on any I would still be careful with painted or shiny surfaces, even though glass is quite resistant. Clay bar can work.
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| sardar (108hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Bbb34 I think you're exaggerating. I understand that you don't like the F10 and won't buy another, but I would like to hear your opinion on which car in this class is more exciting to drive? If I just think about it being more exciting to drive, ignoring other important factors like design, interior features and long-term reliability, the Audi A6 is more exciting to drive for what I'm looking for especially in an AWD car. I haven't driven the CTS, but many, many people say it has. A Panamera is a lot heavier and feels much more relaxed - but it's a different class of vehicle. And while it's not lost on me that you asked about comparisons to other current cars in the same class, I'd still like to point out that the E60 and E39 were both a no-brainer. The F10 feels better built than both, but with a dose of yawn in the recipe. Interestingly, the A6 is only quite a bit lighter than the F10, so it's not just the weight that matters - the F10 just doesn't carry its weight well. When there are light waves at low speeds, the front rocks unreasonably and the turning is really strange. For a brief moment the car doesn't seem to want to cooperate, struggles a little, but then finally gives in and follows the steering. Yes, I have DHP. My criticism is limited to the xDrive F10, I haven't driven a RWD version. I've driven both RWD and xDrive F3X cars, and the RWD cars feel much more like what I expect from a BMW. Maybe the F10 is the same. I'm not kidding about comparing it to a new Buick, though. The Regal in particular, which is admittedly a slightly smaller car, is just as fun to drive as an F10 5 Series. In my opinion. However, that says as much about Buick as it does about BMW.
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| danielle123 (18hp) | Thank you for your support, gentlemen! Let's see what happens... :|
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| ring (121hp) | Quote: Originally posted by WillInDenver And while it's not lost on me that you asked about comparisons to other current cars in the same class, I'd still like to point out that the E60 and E39 were both a no-brainer. The F10 feels better built than both, but with a dose of yawn in the recipe. Interestingly, the A6 is only quite a bit lighter than the F10, so it's not just the weight that matters - the F10 just doesn't carry its weight well. Excellent/appropriate answer, thank you. And I'm not saying the previous 5 might have been sportier/better suited to your tastes, but...Buick?? However, I haven't driven one recently, so maybe, just maybe. But based on everything I've read and personally tried, this car is still a benchmark in its class (not Buick). I personally feel that A6 or the current F10 is a gamble, very close and a matter of personal preference in terms of fit, finish and handling. Of course not as quick as the 3 Series or A4. I just couldn't find anything else that I liked as much as these two and tried several others without turning a blind eye since I wasn't loyal to any of these brands. The F10 just struck me as the most complete car that, while not as maneuverable as smaller and lighter cars, is still essentially a (large) sports sedan. What it does exceptionally well is do everything without drama. It will accelerate quickly, but you just won't feel like you've reached the current speed unless you look at the speedometer (or at the cars in the rearview mirror). Even at high speeds, it handles corners exceptionally well and without drama. Halfway through the curve you are surprised at how fast you can go with it. In my case, with RWD/DHP in Sport or Sport+ mode, it handles winding roads exceptionally well for a 2-ton car. To find the limits of driving you have to drive incredibly fast (and I think that could be a disadvantage for people who like to ditch their cars and want the quick acceleration feel that smaller cars offer). The other thing I like is how well it signals any potential loss of control and now does a good job of allowing you to correct the car (I've recently discovered that I'm driving rear wheel drive on a lot of snowy roads). It gives the rider a great driving experience without the suspension being too harsh. Maybe the older part is more fun, but we disagree that this one isn't fun at all.
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| 140140 (507hp) | Quote: Originally written by dbs600. I'm not sure what to say!? Shortly after picking up my car, I noticed the problem attached in addition to the windshield problem because it was "detailed." Unfortunately, I forgot to mention the attached document when I brought the car back to have the windshield repaired as I drove around with the windows down for about a week and a half to try to ventilate the foul smell of the interior air freshener. Now that I've finished airing out the car and it's not so humid anymore, I left the windows open and the following came to my mind again! So I tried using dishwashing detergent but it doesn't come off!? Stopped at the dealer, the detailer tried a few different products, none of which worked, showed it to the manager, and tried Ajax, which didn't work either. He said when I get home to try vinegar and/or lemon juice and if neither works he will replace the window!? Scratching the affected area with a fingernail produces a squeaking/corrosive sound that cannot be heard on other parts of the glass. The manager also tried using a razor, but that didn't help. I can't believe it, what could this be? I took it to an auto body shop afterward and they said it could be either concrete, limestone, or tree sap, but it definitely doesn't look like tree sap to me!? Thoughts on what that could be!? It is located along part of the bottom edge of the driver's door. No other windows appear to have the same. Definitely from the outside, not from the inside. It's nice that the dealer offers a new window without any problem, but it would need to be re-tinted (which they will do), but who knows if the tint will fit (the tinting was done three years ago at my selling dealer and... I have no idea what brand/model of tint was used and doubt they would know either). By the way, that's the reflection of another car next to mine. I hope the vinegar and/or lemon juice helps! Argh!!! Clay bar + possibly polishing. Check out this video from Ammo NYC. http://www.ammonyc.com/detailing/car...ing-polishing/
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| ford351 (420hp) | Quote: Originally written by Bbb34. Excellent/sensible answer, thank you. And I'm not saying the previous 5 might have been sportier/better suited to your tastes, but...Buick?? However, I haven't driven one recently, so maybe, just maybe. GM is being a bit sneaky here - the current Buick Regal is actually an Opel Insignia and is designed and built in Germany. It's a front-wheel drive platform, but it's actually a very attractive car considering it can be well equipped in the mid-30s.
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| dominos (916hp) | I still have what is shown on my windshield in the first picture above. The dealer previously polished my driver's door window similarly, but concluded that the vertical lines on the other door windows were from the tint peeling off. My windshield has gotten a little better since then, but I would like to fix the problem and the dealer just wrote this: “This work was done using a small orbital polisher and glass polishing compound. Since there are hard water stains, it must be removed with an abrasive. The technician who did this work did so just to prove what it was by cleaning a piece of glass. This is not our normal scope of work and given our hourly labor costs, it makes no sense to do this work here. My recommendation is to find a glass shop that does window polishing and probably have the job done for less than a hundred dollars. Look for a small mom and pop store.” Does anyone know of any stores on Long Island near Manhattan that would do the same thing for my windshield? Thanks.
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| hunter45 (964hp) | I've had three E39s and four E60s, not to mention an M3, an X5 and a 328 Vert. The 5 Series used to be a perfect car. It never felt floaty, it never seemed overweight, it had excellent steering, and it just exuded confidence when you were behind the wheel. It was THE perfect balance... a car with perfect handling if you ordered the Sport package or more recently the M Sport package. The new 5 has nothing to do with the old car. It doesn't give the driver confidence. It's floating, it doesn't encourage you to push harder but warns you to back off. Turn-in is terrible and I have the DHP...set to Sport PLUS. It's hard to put your finger on it, but the car isn't what it used to be, and that's NOT a good thing. Is it solid, quiet and vault-like? Yes! Does it make me want to take the long drive home because it's fun to drive? No. In fact, next time I'll drive a few cars I never thought of buying because I'm not at all thrilled with my new BMW at the moment. They definitely got lost there. As you know I have a major engine problem with my current 535d and BMW is replacing it with a 535i. To fix some of the poor handling issues, I went with the 535i and ditched the X-drive. I hope this, along with purchasing lighter wheels and tires, helps right the wrong.
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| fulham (56hp) | Does anyone know if it's OK to use WD-40 or AFTA to clean the glass on our cars???
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| sudha (884hp) | Quote: Originally written by NewM3driver. I've had three E39s and four E60s, not to mention an M3, an X5 and a 328 Vert. The 5 Series used to be a perfect car. It never felt floaty, it never seemed overweight, it had excellent steering, and it just exuded confidence when you were behind the wheel. It was THE perfect balance... a car with perfect handling if you ordered the Sport package or more recently the M Sport package. The new 5 has nothing to do with the old car. It doesn't give the driver confidence. It's floating, it doesn't encourage you to push harder but warns you to back off. Turn-in is terrible and I have the DHP...set to Sport PLUS. It's hard to put your finger on it, but the car isn't what it used to be, and that's NOT a good thing. Is it solid, quiet and vault-like? Yes! Does it make me want to take the long drive home because it's fun to drive? No. In fact, next time I'll drive a few cars I never thought of buying because I'm not at all thrilled with my new BMW at the moment. They definitely got lost there. As you know I have a major engine problem with my current 535d and BMW is replacing it with a 535i. To fix some of the poor handling issues, I went with the 535i and ditched the X-drive. I hope this, along with purchasing lighter wheels and tires, helps right the wrong. Very well said and I agree until BMW lost its way. You'll find plenty of enthusiasm for the F10 in these forums, much of it coming from people who've never driven a BMW before. This suggests that BMW actually did the right thing with the F10 - for every one of us who was disappointed by the car, there may be three who are switching from Mercedes. For example. I'm amazed at the F10's extremely docile nature, and the same goes for the automotive press in general. But BMW still sells a lot of them.
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| stas.gorodissky (318hp) | Not WD-40. Leaves an oily layer but this should wear off over time.
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| cevthrb (533hp) | Funny. A good friend of mine from college is an executive at Pepsico. He has been on a 5-pack diet for as long as I can remember. We went to dinner before Christmas and he told me how much he hated his new F10...he had no problems with it but said the car seemed to be a different brand. If you took the logo down I would swear I was from a different brand...and that is NOT a good thing. Two months later. He called last week and said he had returned the car to BMW and told them he wouldn't drive a car he hated for three years. He now drives a 2015 Jaguar XJ, which he says is a fabulous handling car. Definitely not the type of customer you want to move to another brand.
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| 210676 (608hp) | Hey man, I use this stuff to clean pretty much everything in my car. Even old, dirty grease stains can be removed without the need for a steamer. It also works on Windows. http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-PC2008...pti+powerclean
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| loko (325hp) | The only thing that bothers me is the chrome side markers on the LCI where the indicators used to be. I'll eventually take them out and paint them, but they're just so uninteresting and cheap looking. The M sports steering wheel is a must (I chose the option).).
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| alinuta (501hp) | Hey NewM3, can you find out from your friend at Pepsico when the site will reopen for visitors to walk around? I would like to scatter his ashes there and introduce our new dog, Pepsicon. They seem to know when Ty MP will reopen
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| Sam-F10 (384hp) | 2014 f10 bought new 06/14: No squeaks, no rattles, no problems with RFTs. To date the car has been problem free. Irritating: location of the steering wheel heating switch. You'd think that despite all the German engineering, they could put it somewhere where it would be visible.
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| bastion (964hp) | 1. That rainwater simply flows into the trunk from the sides when you open the trunk lid. I guess that's what this deep storage container is for. (Aquarium) 2. When parking you have to press the start button twice to turn off the radio. 3. No standard comfort access.
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| shreyas (709hp) | Quote: Originally written by k1200gt 1. The way rainwater flows into the trunk from the sides when the trunk lid is opened. I guess that's what this deep storage container is for. (Aquarium) 2. When parking you have to press the start button twice to turn off the radio. 3. No standard comfort access. The radio will turn off when you lock the car if you press the start/stop button just once.
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| bebenekd (447hp) | Windshield washer fluid runs out very quickly. The most annoying thing about this car, the one that annoys me every day, is the damn cup holder. It is an overdeveloped POS that cannot properly fulfill its main function. The key fob holder also needs to be a little deeper. Otherwise, a great luxury sedan with enough sportiness to keep you from feeling dead at 50.
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| apalazzo (787hp) | Honestly, if I had wanted something sportier, I would have opted for a CTS-V sedan. I came out of an E60 and while I still love the car, the F10 is much more refined. Yes, it's a bit more relaxed and not so aggressive, I actually like it. I had to slow down anyway.
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| larissa123 (181hp) | Quote: Originally written by mpress. Hey Newm3, can you find out from your friend at Pepsico when the site will reopen for visitors to walk around? It was my dogs' favorite place for a long weekend walk. Seems like it's been closed forever...sadly we lost that dog and I'd like to scatter his ashes there and introduce our new dog to Pepsico...no one seems to know when it's going to reopen, a very strange request in a BMW -Forum
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| dugu333 (387hp) | Quote: Originally written by k1200gt 1. The way rainwater flows into the trunk from the sides when the trunk lid is opened. I guess that's what this deep storage container is for. (Aquarium) 2. When parking you have to press the start button twice to turn off the radio. 3. No standard comfort access. So this is how you turn off the damn radio! You learn something every day.
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| especial (310hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Genieman, I have a pet peeve. My last car was an Audi and when I put it in reverse the backup lights were so bright that I could see everything very clearly in the backup camera even though there were headlights at the back of the car. On the other hand, when I put the F10 into reverse gear and look into the rear view camera, I find it difficult to see anything. I feel like the backup lights just aren't bright enough. Pro tip: Turn off your headlights when reversing at night. The entire screen becomes much clearer...
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| 0603 (752hp) | Sun visors are crap.
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| waseemnawaz29 (992hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NewM3driver How about the fact that the car no longer drives like a BMW, but rides, drives and steers like my grandfather's old Buick? Honestly the car is a very boring drive. Quite a disappointment. Agree. Maybe not as bad as an old Buick, but no better than a new Buick. It is now a luxury car. I will never buy another one after this one.
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| control1 (872hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NewM3driver How about the fact that the car no longer drives like a BMW, but rides, drives and steers like my grandfather's old Buick? Honestly the car is a very boring drive. Quite a disappointment. Quote: Originally posted by WillInDenver. Agree. Maybe not as bad as an old Buick, but no better than a new Buick. It is now a luxury car. I will never buy another one after this one. I think you're exaggerating. I understand that you don't like the F10 and won't buy another, but I would like to hear your opinion on which car in this class is more exciting to drive ?
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| 27041981 (73hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Bbb34 I think you're exaggerating. I understand that you don't like the F10 and won't buy another, but I would like to hear your opinion on which car in this class is more exciting to drive? I'm wondering the same thing, I'm completely happy with my F11 wagon with Adaptive Drive, compared to my E39 wagon with M-Tech suspension. In fact, I like the F11 even better because it has suspension modes that suit the roads and my driving mood. What we have to remember is that we drive a small 7 Series these days and not a larger 3 Series. 3 Series users are also complaining as they too are now sitting in a more sophisticated and larger car. HighlandPete
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| radost (961hp) | I suspect that your background will also influence your thoughts on this. I've had many M-Sport BMWs and experienced some rock-hard suspension settings for looks and better handling, but often when I was tired and driving home I found myself wondering if I should opt for something more forgiving next time. But when it came down to it, I couldn't bring myself to buy anything other than M Sport. I came to the F10 via an E70 and from my point of view this car feels great, it has a lot of similarities with the X5 but is much better to drive, better technology, better interior and surprisingly the ride isn't as harsh either, so I really like the setup. I've noticed that many of the most critical posts come from the previous generation 5, so it seems that it has lost some of the flexibility of that and the previous 5s. However, this is not a problem for me as I have no basis for a direct comparison...
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| GuaranteeCEL (674hp) | Quote: Originally written by The Beast. I think your background will also influence your opinion on this topic... I'm sure it does. I upgraded from an E91 330d to my F11 so I'm very aware that I've moved to a much bigger and better car. I wanted to switch from the E39 to an E60/1 but I just didn't like the fact that it wasn't a trustworthy car on British roads. I was very disappointed with the driving characteristics of the demo cars I tried. An E61 M-Sport 535d was so harsh and just bounced around on my typical roads that I passed on it, opting for an E91 as a compromise. I had an LCI E61 535d that I was able to use on local roads for a week, a significantly improved chassis over the original model. I almost made the decision to buy it, but since I had modified the suspension and wheels of my E91 to achieve a good balance between ride and handling, I decided to wait for the next model. When I got into the F11 with the right wheels and suspension, I went straight back to the E39 likenesses, a car that I rated as a top-of-the-line vehicle due to a mix of outstanding qualities. For me, the F11 is the natural evolution of the E39, very similar in terms of powertrain, only more advanced and with better technology. The only negative is that it has gotten larger with each generation, but this is a common problem throughout the automotive industry. Personally, I can't imagine a better car to drive at the moment. If the 3 Series matched its performance mix in the smaller body, that would be attractive, but in my opinion the 3 Series just isn't in the same league. HighlandPete
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| icare123 (220hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Bbb34 I think you're exaggerating. I understand that you don't like the F10 and won't buy another, but I would like to hear your opinion on which car in this class is more exciting to drive? If I just think about it being more exciting to drive, ignoring other important factors like design, interior features and long-term reliability, the Audi A6 is more exciting to drive for what I'm looking for especially in an AWD car. I haven't driven the CTS, but many, many people say it has. A Panamera is a lot heavier and feels much more relaxed - but it's a different class of vehicle. And while it's not lost on me that you asked about comparisons to other current cars in the same class, I'd still like to point out that the E60 and E39 were both a no-brainer. The F10 feels better built than both, but with a dose of yawn in the recipe. Interestingly, the A6 is only quite a bit lighter than the F10, so it's not just the weight that matters - the F10 just doesn't carry its weight well. When there are light waves at low speeds, the front rocks unreasonably and the turning is really strange. For a brief moment the car doesn't seem to want to cooperate, struggles a little, but then finally gives in and follows the steering. Yes, I have DHP. My criticism is limited to the xDrive F10, I haven't driven a RWD version. I've driven both RWD and xDrive F3X cars, and the RWD cars feel much more like what I expect from a BMW. Maybe the F10 is the same. I'm not kidding about comparing it to a new Buick, though. The Regal in particular, which is admittedly a slightly smaller car, is just as fun to drive as an F10 5 Series. In my opinion. However, that says as much about Buick as it does about BMW.
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| funny7 (421hp) | Quote: Originally posted by WillInDenver And while it's not lost on me that you asked about comparisons to other current cars in the same class, I'd still like to point out that the E60 and E39 were both a no-brainer. The F10 feels better built than both, but with a dose of yawn in the recipe. Interestingly, the A6 is only quite a bit lighter than the F10, so it's not just the weight that matters - the F10 just doesn't carry its weight well. Excellent/appropriate answer, thank you. And I'm not saying the previous 5 might have been sportier/better suited to your tastes, but...Buick?? However, I haven't driven one recently, so maybe, just maybe. But based on everything I've read and personally tried, this car is still a benchmark in its class (not Buick). I personally feel that A6 or the current F10 is a gamble, very close and a matter of personal preference in terms of fit, finish and handling. Of course not as quick as the 3 Series or A4. I just couldn't find anything else that I liked as much as these two and tried several others without turning a blind eye since I wasn't loyal to any of these brands. The F10 just struck me as the most complete car that, while not as maneuverable as smaller and lighter cars, is still essentially a (large) sports sedan. What it does exceptionally well is do everything without drama. It will accelerate quickly, but you just won't feel like you've reached the current speed unless you look at the speedometer (or at the cars in the rearview mirror). Even at high speeds, it handles corners exceptionally well and without drama. Halfway through the curve you are surprised at how fast you can go with it. In my case, with RWD/DHP in Sport or Sport+ mode, it handles winding roads exceptionally well for a 2-ton car. To find the limits of driving you have to drive incredibly fast (and I think that could be a disadvantage for people who like to ditch their cars and want the quick acceleration feel that smaller cars offer). The other thing I like is how well it signals any potential loss of control and now does a good job of allowing you to correct the car (I've recently discovered that I'm driving rear wheel drive on a lot of snowy roads). It gives the rider a great driving experience without the suspension being too harsh. Maybe the older part is more fun, but we disagree that this one isn't fun at all.
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| rock24 (886hp) | Quote: Originally written by Bbb34. Excellent/sensible answer, thank you. And I'm not saying the previous 5 might have been sportier/better suited to your tastes, but...Buick?? However, I haven't driven one recently, so maybe, just maybe. GM is being a bit sneaky here - the current Buick Regal is actually an Opel Insignia and is designed and built in Germany. It's a front-wheel drive platform, but it's actually a very attractive car considering it can be well equipped in the mid-30s.
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| DKJUN75 (7hp) | I've had three E39s and four E60s, not to mention an M3, an X5 and a 328 Vert. The 5 Series used to be a perfect car. It never felt floaty, it never seemed overweight, it had excellent steering, and it just exuded confidence when you were behind the wheel. It was THE perfect balance... a car with perfect handling if you ordered the Sport package or more recently the M Sport package. The new 5 has nothing to do with the old car. It doesn't give the driver confidence. It's floating, it doesn't encourage you to push harder but warns you to back off. Turn-in is terrible and I have the DHP...set to Sport PLUS. It's hard to say for sure, but the car isn't what it used to be, and that's NOT a good thing. Is it solid, quiet and vault-like? Yes! Does it make me want to take the long drive home because it's fun to drive? No. In fact, next time I'll drive a few cars I never thought of buying because I'm not at all thrilled with my new BMW at the moment. They definitely got lost there. As you know I have a major engine problem with my current 535d and BMW is replacing it with a 535i. To fix some of the poor handling issues, I went with the 535i and ditched the X-drive. I hope this, along with purchasing lighter wheels and tires, helps right the wrong.
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| SV Concepts III (352hp) | Quote: Originally written by NewM3driver. I've had three E39s and four E60s, not to mention an M3, an X5 and a 328 Vert. The 5 Series used to be a perfect car. It never felt floaty, it never seemed overweight, it had excellent steering, and it just exuded confidence when you were behind the wheel. It was THE perfect balance... a car with perfect handling if you ordered the Sport package or more recently the M Sport package. The new 5 has nothing to do with the old car. It doesn't give the driver confidence. It's fluid, it doesn't encourage you to push harder but warns you to back off. Turn-in is terrible and I have the DHP...set to Sport PLUS. It's hard to put your finger on it, but the car isn't what it used to be, and that's NOT a good thing. Is it solid, quiet and vault-like? Yes! Does it make me want to take the long drive home because it's fun to drive? No. In fact, next time I'll drive a few cars I never thought of buying because I'm not at all thrilled with my new BMW at the moment. They definitely got lost there. As you know I have a major engine problem with my current 535d and BMW is replacing it with a 535i. To fix some of the poor handling issues, I went with the 535i and ditched the X-drive. I hope this, along with purchasing lighter wheels and tires, helps right the wrong. Very well said and I agree until BMW lost its way. You'll find plenty of enthusiasm for the F10 in these forums, much of it coming from people who've never driven a BMW before. This suggests that BMW actually did the right thing with the F10 - for every one of us who was disappointed by the car, there may be three who are switching from Mercedes. For example. I'm amazed at the F10's extremely docile nature, and the same goes for the automotive press in general. But BMW still sells a lot of them.
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| templar1 (151hp) | Funny. A good friend of mine from college is an executive at Pepsico. He has been on a 5-pack diet for as long as I can remember. We went to dinner before Christmas and he told me how much he hated his new F10...he had no problems with it but said the car seemed to be a different brand. If you took the logo down I would swear I was from a different brand...and that is NOT a good thing. Two months later. He called last week and said he had returned the car to BMW and told them he wouldn't drive a car he hated for three years. He now drives a 2015 Jaguar XJ, which he says is a fabulous handling car. Definitely not the type of customer you want to move to another brand.
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| stockholm1 (721hp) | The only thing that bothers me is the chrome side markers on the LCI where the indicators used to be. I'll eventually take them out and paint them, but they're just so uninteresting and cheap looking. The M sports steering wheel is a must (I chose the option).).
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| tekken6 (229hp) | Hey NewM3, can you find out from your friend at Pepsico when the site will reopen for visitors to walk around? I would like to scatter his ashes there and introduce our new dog, Pepsicon. They seem to know when Ty MP will reopen
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| 1business (118hp) | 2014 f10 bought new 06/14: No squeaks, no rattles, no problems with RFTs. To date the car has been problem free. Irritating: location of the steering wheel heating switch. You'd think that despite all the German engineering, they could put it somewhere where it would be visible.
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| superman20 (270hp) | 1. That rainwater simply flows into the trunk from the sides when you open the trunk lid. I guess that's what this deep storage container is for. (Aquarium) 2. When parking you have to press the start button twice to turn off the radio. 3. No standard comfort access.
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| hack (95hp) | Quote: Originally written by k1200gt 1. The way rainwater flows into the trunk from the sides when the trunk lid is opened. I guess that's what this deep storage container is for. (Aquarium) 2. When parking you have to press the start button twice to turn off the radio. 3. No standard comfort access. The radio will turn off when you lock the car if you press the start/stop button just once.
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| mickey5 (609hp) | Windshield washer fluid runs out very quickly. The most annoying thing about this car, the one that annoys me every day, is the damn cup holder. It is an overdeveloped POS that cannot properly fulfill its main function. The key fob holder also needs to be a little deeper. Otherwise, a great luxury sedan with enough sportiness to keep you from feeling dead at 50.
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| michael20 (516hp) | Honestly, if I had wanted something sportier, I would have opted for a CTS-V sedan. I came out of an E60 and while I still love the car, the F10 is much more refined. Yes, it's a bit more relaxed and not so aggressive, I actually like it. I had to slow down anyway.
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| lilita (426hp) | Quote: Originally written by mpress. Hey Newm3, can you find out from your friend at Pepsico when the site will reopen for visitors to walk around? It was my dogs' favorite place for a long weekend walk. Seems like it's been closed forever...sadly we lost that dog and I'd like to scatter his ashes there and introduce our new dog to Pepsico...no one seems to know when it's going to reopen, a very strange request in a BMW -Forum
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| irish2 (360hp) | Quote: Originally written by k1200gt 1. The way rainwater flows into the trunk from the sides when the trunk lid is opened. I guess that's what this deep storage container is for. (Aquarium) 2. When parking you have to press the start button twice to turn off the radio. 3. No standard comfort access. So this is how you turn off the damn radio! You learn something every day.
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| JEAdmin (170hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Genieman, I have a pet peeve. My last car was an Audi and when I put it in reverse the backup lights were so bright that I could see everything very clearly in the backup camera even though there were headlights at the back of the car. On the other hand, when I put the F10 into reverse gear and look into the rear view camera, I find it difficult to see anything. I feel like the backup lights just aren't bright enough. Pro tip: Turn off your headlights when reversing at night. The entire screen becomes much clearer...
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| lokote13 (820hp) | Sun visors are crap.
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| eagleman1 (234hp) | You come home and find that your wife has damaged one of your bikes. I just had it refinished a few months ago!
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| 130875 (414hp) | Oh damn! Do you have any pictures of the scratch? The same feeling when my son braked my wheels!
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| gamecock (327hp) | I sold my old stand G37 to my sister, drove it for about two to three years without a single scratch on the wheels, a month into owning it she ground the bejesus out of the driver's side... 3 months later sees the other side from the same thing... Mrs. Man Thank God my girl knows better and has wheels of her own but still makes me paranoid ...
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| 785612 (139hp) | Try damaging something that means a lot to them, like scraping the leather on their Gucci bag or expensive shoes, and see how they like it
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| delatorre (629hp) | When the weather gets cooler, my car doesn't run as smoothly. A slight rumble here and there, which has also happened in the past. Occurs when switching between parking, driving, reversing and idling, all intermittently. The acceleration also doesn't seem to be as consistent at times. Not present when warm. I definitely complained about it under warranty but it fell on deaf ears. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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| manyofobi (43hp) | That's why she drives her own car and mine is off limits!!! Unless I've been drinking, she can drive my car, but I want to watch out for other cars and drive straight home without stopping anywhere and NOT DRIVING THROUGH ANYTHING!!!
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| badass13 (130hp) | Sounds like the same problem I had. Due to direct injection the valves had a lot of carbon deposits. They had to drop the engine and walnut radiators to clean it. The engine ran great for 3 weeks and now the rough idle is back.
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| 260889 (648hp) | We usually drive our own cars, but I took her Mercedes for some warranty work, so we swapped cars. But honestly, she's a good driver and it's the first time in our 15 years together that she's damaged a wheel. Just had to be mine...
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