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| makelove (771hp) | I will agree with all of these findings. The F10 is a beautiful car to look at, but it might not be that much fun to drive, especially if you're stepping straight out of an E90 or similar. However, adding sway, springs, removing runflats, and installing a new, louder exhaust could solve many of your problems. EDIT: If you hated the steering in the still-hydraulic 535xi form, you'll definitely freak out if you test drive a non-XI with electric steering. I really hope they work out the steering for 2015 at least, that's the big problem I have with my 2013 535, well that and the fact that I was a fool who didn't want to pay for the NAV and can't find a buyer now.
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| hockey29 (560hp) | I currently have a GS 350 F Sport and would like to switch to another car. Compared to a 535 msport I think the 1.5 msport looks better from the outside but the GS has a better interior. 2. the GS has better suspension. 3. The 535 msport accelerates much faster in real life thanks to turbos and low torque. 4. Overall I would like to change something because the GS just feels slow... you have to rev it all the way up to feel the power... I think in real life it feels similar to a 528 in terms of acceleration ... 5. Of course the cheapest option is to lease it (I bought one, so it doesn't matter to me, but it could be very important to you) I tested a 550i msport a few months ago and decided to give it a try not to change, for the same reasons you didn't like your 535 msport... If you feel the 535 is heavy, then the 550 is HEAVY as it weighs about 4,300 pounds, making the handling even worse makes... Of course it has power, but that's the ONLY thing that was better than my GS in my opinion. So I couldn't justify switching to a car that I wouldn't really like either. I've heard the Cadillac Vsport is great, but I'm not sure what the lease deals are... I wouldn't really want to lease a Cadillac for the same price as a BMW... Audi has a different business model and prefers instead buying lease, so their leases are terrible... So if you want one you basically have to buy one... Maybe buy a 2013 A6 CPO? I'm planning on testing an S6 soon... Maybe that'll be my car soon.
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| faith123 (698hp) | The 550 gives you the extra power and responsiveness you're looking for - and more. I came from an E90 335 and the 550 simply beats the 335 by far in terms of response and performance. I also live in the New York City area and chose the 550 for the DHP. I had the passive sport suspension on my 335, and the potholes and bumpy roads were just getting old. The DHP offers a really nice way to switch between soft and stiff suspension when needed. I have found it to be truly invaluable. I also travel to Boston often for work and the roads there are just awful too - Comfort+ on bumpy or cobbled roads makes all the difference... back to Sport on the gentle curves to satisfy both personalities. We also have an Audi in the house (maybe two soon), and as nice as they are, the interior just isn't of the same quality in my opinion. The materials feel cheaper, the navigation system is far from BMW quality and I think it looks a bit dated compared to BMW. Nevertheless, you really can't go wrong with an A6. It's a great car, but not as great as an F10 in my opinion. The F10 won't steer or feel like the older hydraulic BMWs. Some people are really put off by it, but I don't mind. If you feel it, you'll actually notice that the steering is extremely precise - and that's the main point, isn't it? Some people value the feeling more than the benefits. The steering is spot on and precise, but you have to get used to a slightly different feel/feedback. After riding my first month or so, I was fully acclimatized. Finally, the F10 is obviously a larger car. If you can make do with a small cabin, the F30 would certainly offer a more nimble experience if that's high on your priority list. But if you're willing to give up a little of that agility, the F10 really offers luxury and pampering that, in my opinion, far outweighs what little you give up in agility.
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| 07101986 (599hp) | Quote: Originally written by ezmaass The 550 gives you the extra power and responsiveness you're looking for - and more. I came from an E90 335 and the 550 simply beats the 335 by far in terms of response and performance. I also live in the New York City area and chose the 550 for the DHP. I had the passive sport suspension on my 335, and the potholes and bumpy roads were just getting old. The DHP offers a really nice way to switch between soft and stiff suspension when needed. I have found it to be truly invaluable. I also travel to Boston often for work and the roads there are just awful too - Comfort+ on bumpy or cobbled roads makes all the difference... back to Sport on the gentle curves to satisfy both personalities. We also have an Audi in the house (maybe two soon), and as nice as they are, the interior just isn't of the same quality in my opinion. The materials feel cheaper, the navigation system is far from BMW quality and I think it looks a bit dated compared to BMW. Nevertheless, you really can't go wrong with an A6. It's a great car, but not as great as an F10 in my opinion. The F10 won't steer or feel like the older hydraulic BMWs. Some people are really put off by it, but I don't mind. If you feel it, you'll actually notice that the steering is extremely precise - and that's the main point, isn't it? Some people value the feeling more than the benefits. The steering is spot on and precise, but you have to get used to a slightly different feel/feedback. After riding my first month or so, I was fully acclimatized. Finally, the F10 is obviously a larger car. If you can make do with a small cabin, the F30 would certainly offer a more nimble experience if that's high on your priority list. However, if you're willing to give up a little agility, the F10 really does offer luxury and pampering, which in my opinion far outweighs what little you give up in agility. I have an E70 X5 and my father has the F15 X5. The steering difference is night and day. I have to really pull on mine to get the thing moving, but on the F15 I can turn the steering wheel with a single finger while the vehicle is stationary.
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| 170278 (564hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DentalBoy Can you post some pictures right now? It looks fantastic! Thanks, you do that. Give me a few days, I'll put some on and thank you very much. Quote: Originally posted by tony.m6. WHERE CAN I BUY THE SIDE SKIRTS. WOOOW. You can buy them on the BMW website
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| 012589 (982hp) | Quote: Originally written by tmac99. Does anyone in the US know how to order this? The dealer says it doesn't exist! You have to stomp your feet... In the UK they are frozen. Reorder... Maybe it's the same in the USA
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| demo-extranet (338hp) | Quote: Originally posted by UAM951, this looks great. Thanks
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| 040387 (249hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ITS DIGGLER Installed it today... Sorry about the crap pictures, I'll take some with my camera this weekend. The pictures don't do it justice. Looks so aggressive, happy, happy, beautiful. Is this a matte or glossy finish on the rocker vinyl??
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| 110102 (318hp) | Looks great, man. Congratulations! Does the M Performance decal come with the rocker vinyl??
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| on (640hp) | Which dealer did you use? I checked with our local dealer (last week) and he told me that the parts alone cost over £1,000 + tax and they would fit. They also said that according to their system this is not currently available in the UK. I like your 750 much better, and your dealer clearly had no problem getting one! I have a Titan Silver F11 with all the other M Performance optics that looks great, the front lip would just show it off as well as yours. Apparently they just released a roof spoiler for the F11 in the last few weeks. I have a part number and price but they couldn't show me pictures of what it looked like :-( I also swapped out the rear diffuser for the M Performance last week but left it in its original matte black to match the side skirts Apparently there won't be a carbon version, but I asked a car wrapping buddy to recreate the carbon wrapped diffuser, but to be honest I personally thought it was too much, which is why I got it in the original color have left.
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| 18121983 (204hp) | Looks great but I would be SOOO afraid to scrape it off. With my F10 on H&R I'm sometimes afraid to get out of my driveway, so I can imagine what I would have to do on a daily basis when I drive. Great look on the AW white..
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| bulletcbj (519hp) | Hey, the car looks amazing!! I buy this model and really want this kit. Where did you get it from? Do you have the contact details? Have you done anything to it lately???
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| pensacola (978hp) | Breathtaking! I would love to retrofit this front bumper on my 11 535xi non-M Sport.
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| 080282 (200hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DentalBoy Can you post some pictures right now? It looks fantastic! Thanks, you do that. Give me a few days, I'll put some on and thank you very much. Quote: Originally posted by tony.m6. WHERE CAN I BUY THE SIDE SKIRTS. WOOOW. You can buy them on the BMW website
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| losangeles535 (201hp) | Quote: Originally written by tmac99. Does anyone in the US know how to order this? The dealer says it doesn't exist! You have to stomp your feet... In the UK they are frozen. Reorder... Maybe it's the same in the USA
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| cute16 (848hp) | Quote: Originally posted by UAM951, this looks great. Thanks
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| fannie1 (563hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ITS DIGGLER Installed it today... Sorry about the crap pictures, I'll take some with my camera this weekend. The pictures don't do it justice. Looks so aggressive, happy, happy, beautiful. Is this a matte or glossy finish on the rocker vinyl??
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| perfect7 (460hp) | Looks great, man. Congratulations! Does the M Performance decal come with the rocker vinyl??
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| pierrot (543hp) | Which dealer did you use? I checked with our local dealer (last week) and he told me that the parts alone cost over £1,000 + tax and they would fit. They also said that according to their system this is not currently available in the UK. I like your 750 much better, and your dealer clearly had no problem getting one! I have a Titan Silver F11 with all the other M Performance optics that looks great, the front lip would just show it off as well as yours. Apparently they just released a roof spoiler for the F11 in the last few weeks. I have a part number and price but they couldn't show me pictures of what it looked like :-( I also swapped out the rear diffuser for the M Performance last week but left it in its original matte black to match the side skirts Apparently there won't be a carbon version, but I asked a car wrapping buddy to recreate the carbon wrapped diffuser, but to be honest I personally thought it was too much, which is why I got it in the original color have left.
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| 18111986 (185hp) | Looks great but I would be SOOO afraid to scrape it off. With my F10 on H&R I'm sometimes afraid to get out of my driveway, so I can imagine what I would have to do on a daily basis when I drive. Great look on the AW white..
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| harshita (415hp) | Hey, the car looks amazing!! I buy this model and really want this kit. Where did you get it from? Do you have the contact details? Have you done anything to it lately???
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| anna11 (312hp) | Breathtaking! I would love to retrofit this front bumper on my 11 535xi non-M Sport.
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| lovinit (667hp) | I have a 2013 535xi, build date 4/13. It had NBT_d12505i. The sat nav restarted so the dealer said new software needed to be installed. They installed NBT_g14024i and now I have no traffic, no advanced Bluetooth, no BMW comfort, no weather, no Google and who knows what else is messed up. What is NBT g14024i
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| batman17 (631hp) | I'm having a similar problem right now. 2013 535xi. The dealer said a software update was required. I dropped it off yesterday and received a call from SA late yesterday afternoon telling me that my car's computer had crashed after two attempts to update. The car is now no longer functional. He said it was stuck in limp mode. They have already contacted BMW engineers and hope to resolve the issue today. We'll see what happens
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| rajesh4444 (349hp) | Heavy nose lol. Whatever that means.
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| rdfpbvjlj (832hp) | My car received the same update NBT_g14024i a few weeks ago and I have no problems with navigation/traffic/Bluetooth. It brought some improved features for navigation and traffic. I have a 535i 2013 6/2013.
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| tthuns (131hp) | LOL, this thread... If a 550i is drivable, then I want all my cars to be drivable. I'm barely scratching the surface of what this thing can do. The 535i in my rearview mirror may be pondering the downsides of said nose load as I cruise down the road.
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| johnny55 (508hp) | I just spoke to the dealer. A control module in the car needs to be replaced. They say that's why the car wouldn't accept the new programming. The part must come from Germany. 7-10 days in shop.
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| 15111986 (94hp) | 550The i with its V8 engine is the next heaviest with a weight distribution of 52.5/47.5 percent front and rear, the 535i with its I6 has 50.9/49.1 percent. Both are front-heavy, so if you like drag racing, get the 550i, but if you like cornering, get the 535i and the 535i, BMW's best engine. The 550i was made just for Americans. You can choose which acceleration (550i) or which handling you want (535i).).
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| green06 (920hp) | Car works fine. Apparently there was a nice part of the update that didn't happen. Everything is fine now!
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| 821026 (867hp) | If you get the 535, you'll love it as long as you never drive a 550! I did that until I drove the 550. Now I own one!
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| ferec (373hp) | That's great. It's a shame, however, that you jumped to conclusions about the retailer and included them in the title of your post. What we all see is a mistake on the part of the dealer that apparently didn't happen.
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| dimikfx (406hp) | Lol, actually. I drove both. Nose melts. Sounds like a rationalization to me. OP, drive both. I highly doubt you will notice the claimed rhino weight.
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| baphomet (292hp) | Well, actually they did. They gave me my car back at the end of the day before the weekend without anyone checking to make sure the work was done correctly. :-). It's all good. Now only if Dinan can crack the control unit!!
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| vera123 (394hp) | I also understand that the 550 has more reliability issues, particularly due to the injectors.
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| malgosia (388hp) | I have a 2013 535xi, build date 4/13. It had NBT_d12505i. The sat nav restarted so the dealer said new software needed to be installed. They installed NBT_g14024i and now I have no traffic, no advanced Bluetooth, no BMW comfort, no weather, no Google and who knows what else is messed up. What is NBT g14024i
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| moondance (927hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lovec1990 Yes, I'm serious. The 550i is nose heavy and has worse handling compared to the 535i and you notice it when you push. I felt it when driving 550i and 535i on the track, but it's not noticeable during normal driving. Yes, I had the 550 in 2011, it is definitely heavier, definitely heavy at the front and pushes in the corners, the handling is not as good as the 535, that is noticeable to anyone who drives both. This was noticeable in everyday traffic; I didn't need a trace to be completely disappointed with the support load.
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| 03121982 (22hp) | I'm having a similar problem right now. 2013 535xi. The dealer said a software update was required. I dropped it off yesterday and received a call from SA late yesterday afternoon telling me that my car's computer had crashed after two attempts to update. The car is now no longer functional. He said it was stuck in limp mode. They have already contacted BMW engineers and hope to resolve the issue today. We'll see what happens
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| peace09 (963hp) | There are more advantages of the 535xi over the 550xi, but in my opinion: I'll leave out the sound because it's subjective. 550xi: + acceleration - range - handling - operating costs 535xi: + handling + range + operating costs - acceleration
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| sandra15 (539hp) | My car received the same update NBT_g14024i a few weeks ago and I have no problems with navigation/traffic/Bluetooth. It brought some improved features for navigation and traffic. I have a 535i 2013 6/2013.
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| superbuick (938hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lovec1990 There are more advantages of 535xi over 550xi, but in my opinion I will leave out the sound because it is subjective. 550xi: + Acceleration - Range - Handling - Operating costs 535xi: + Handling + Range + Operating costs - Acceleration Don't forget oil consumption!
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| 84268426 (933hp) | I just spoke to the dealer. A control module in the car needs to be replaced. They say that's why the car wouldn't accept the new programming. The part must come from Germany. 7-10 days in shop.
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| 130776 (491hp) | lovec1990 – I’m not sure where you got your numbers from. BMW's website shows: 550xi: 47%/53% (front/rear) 550i: 48.5%/51.5% (front/rear) 535xi: 48.3%/51.7% (front/rear) 535i: 49.6%/50.4% (front/rear) rear) So according to BMW NONE of these cars are actually nose-heavy. Admittedly, these are numbers from 2014 - I'm not sure if they have changed since 2011. They all have a little over 50% of their weight in their back half...unless someone can prove otherwise? I took the above information directly from the BMW website and data sheets. Regardless, ANY car that comes close to a 50/50 split will feel great. Unless you ride a 550 every day, your opinion is truly moot. I've driven my 550xi HARD through a number of real-world scenarios - on- and off-ramps, winding backroads, etc. I've never felt remotely disadvantaged by a weight distribution issue. Why? Because there aren't any! Even if these cars were used on a racetrack (and that's obviously not what they're intended for!), I think it would be very difficult for a normal Joe to notice a difference in weight distribution. If someone is considering a 550 or a 535, they should make the decision based on REAL differences - like fuel economy - and made-up nonsense like weight distribution. I really want to meet the guy who's going to push his 5 Series so hard and whose driving skills are so professional that he's going to recognize a fragmented weight distribution between these cars... and then it's going to somehow impede the car's intended use and tempt you to buy another model! HA-HA!! Seriously?? I chose the 550 over the 535 because there is a huge difference in the performance of the car. The 550 is a FAST sedan while the 535 is quick. Did I need the power of the 550? No. Do I like it? Absolutely. Nobody really NEEDS a twin-turbo V8 in a sedan. But if you're the type of person who really enjoys putting out the power on the highway or taking a spirited jaunt to 60 every now and then, the 550 is the way to go. However, the 550 has higher fuel and oil consumption. Big yay! My car was $86,000 MSRP. If you're worried about the few dollar difference in fuel prices, honestly, you probably have no right NOT to buy ANY car. Buy a Camry or Accord... and save tens of thousands. If you can afford the car, you can also afford the gas that goes into it. Yes, there may also be higher maintenance costs - the N63 (pre-LCI) was not the most reliable compared to the N55. But the N55 had the advantage of being better than the N54 (which I owned in my 335i)...and that was a much more problematic engine than the N63. Now the N63Tu should bring the engine on par with the N55 in terms of reliability as a second generation, with similar updates that the N55 received from the N54 (e.g. fuel injectors). If you're considering a 535 or 550, I think the only REAL factor is the purchase price. Gasoline should probably be far away, as the difference over the life of the vehicle may only be a few thousand dollars - a drop in the bucket compared to the prices of these cars. And maintenance is really only a factor if you're buying a used car or plan to keep the car outside of the warranty period. Otherwise it's not a problem.
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| defiant (864hp) | Car works fine. Apparently there was a nice part of the update that didn't happen. Everything is fine now!
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| tyler95 (799hp) | Even your numbers show that the 535i has better weight distribution and that means better handling too
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| 15051993 (287hp) | That's great. It's a shame, however, that you jumped to conclusions about the retailer and included them in the title of your post. What we all see is a mistake on the part of the dealer that apparently didn't happen.
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| 241077 (619hp) | It's not about the cost of oil or gasoline, it's about the agony of constantly stopping to get synthetic oil and put it in. I guess now you're going to tell me I don't deserve 550 if I have to refill the oil in me. Your weight information should be checked. I would look for a BMW misprint. There is no way the front of the 550 weighs less than the back. think about it? How would that make any sense? And yes, you can feel the difference in the excessive front weight, and the 550 pushes itself in mild everyday curves. I have owned four BMWs recently, two of which were 550s and two of which were 535s. So I can say that even though I know how they drive after driving the cars for a few years.
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| 159654 (988hp) | Well, actually they did. They gave me my car back at the end of the day before the weekend without anyone checking to make sure the work was done correctly. :-). It's all good. Now only if Dinan can crack the control unit!!
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| iwillwin (174hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass lovec1990 - I'm not sure where you got your numbers from. BMW's website shows: 550xi: 47%/53% (front/rear) 550i: 48.5%/51.5% (front/rear) 535xi: 48.3%/51.7% (front/rear) 535i: 49.6%/50.4% (front/rear) rear) So according to BMW NONE of these cars are actually nose heavy. Admittedly, these are numbers from 2014 - I'm not sure if they have changed since 2011. They all have a little over 50% of their weight in their back half...unless someone can prove otherwise? I took the above information directly from the BMW website and data sheets. Regardless, ANY car that comes close to a 50/50 split will feel great. Unless you ride a 550 every day, your opinion is truly moot. I've driven my 550xi HARD through a number of real-world scenarios - on- and off-ramps, winding backroads, etc. I've never felt remotely disadvantaged by a weight distribution issue. Why? Because there aren't any! Even if these cars were used on a racetrack (and that's obviously not what they're intended for!), I think it would be very difficult for a normal Joe to notice a difference in weight distribution. If someone is considering a 550 or a 535, they should make the decision based on REAL differences - like fuel economy - and made-up nonsense like weight distribution. I really want to meet the guy who's going to push his 5 Series so hard and whose driving skills are so professional that he's going to recognize a fragmented weight distribution between these cars... and then it's going to somehow impede the car's intended use and tempt you to buy another model! HA-HA!! Seriously?? I chose the 550 over the 535 because there is a huge difference in the performance of the car. The 550 is a FAST sedan while the 535 is quick. Did I need the power of the 550? No. Do I like it? Absolutely. Nobody really NEEDS a twin-turbo V8 in a sedan. But if you're the type of person who really enjoys putting out the power on the highway or taking a spirited jaunt to 60 every now and then, the 550 is the way to go. However, the 550 has higher fuel and oil consumption. Big yay! My car was $86,000 MSRP. If you're worried about the few dollar difference in fuel prices, honestly, you probably have no right NOT to buy ANY car. Buy a Camry or Accord... and save tens of thousands. If you can afford the car, you can also afford the gas that goes into it. Yes, there may also be higher maintenance costs - the N63 (pre-LCI) was not the most reliable compared to the N55. But the N55 had the advantage of being better than the N54 (which I owned in my 335i)...and that was a much more problematic engine than the N63. Now the N63Tu should bring the engine on par with the N55 in terms of reliability as a second generation, with similar updates that the N55 received from the N54 (e.g. fuel injectors). If you're considering a 535 or 550, I think the only REAL factor is the purchase price. Gasoline should probably be far away, as the difference over the life of the vehicle may only be a few thousand dollars - a drop in the bucket compared to the prices of these cars. And maintenance is really only a factor if you're buying a used car or plan to keep the car outside of the warranty period. Otherwise it's not a problem. In fact, I have it on several BMW and several review sites right now.
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| 02121979 (760hp) | losangeles535 is right. The 550i is in my personal opinion the worst engine that BMW offers because it has no purpose or was designed as a niche engine and is not a better engine than the 535i and even the 528i is better than the 550i.
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| luv4eva (27hp) | Be better defined when you say the 535 and 528 have a better engine. Your and other definitions of “better” could be very different. It's just a matter of opinion and everyone has one (or two) of them. For someone who cares about saving fuel and protecting the planet without wanting to accelerate from 0 to 100 mph as quickly as possible, the 528 is probably the better engine. For the guy who loves feeling the power and torque and doing full-throttle sprints when conditions allow, the 550 is undoubtedly the better choice. The 535 is a good mix of both, but to say that the 550 has the worst engine is not fair. I've had both the F10 535xi and now the 550i and you have to have a very sensitive ass to notice the weight difference in normal driving. Each model has its advantages and disadvantages. Sometimes it's nice to have options... Alan
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| 0000000a (997hp) | I would have gotten a 550 And the additional cost of the 550 isn't the whole story. They depreciate more quickly, are more expensive to maintain, and when it comes time to sell them used, they sit on the dealer's lot looking for customers while the 535s and 528s move. So in a sense it is a niche player in the F10 range. Of course, when you have the money for all that, who can argue with power? Do you need it? No. Is it nice to have? Yes, my cousin in LA just got his new jet. It is a new Gulfstream G450. I was shocked at the price of the thing when I looked it up. Apparently he can afford it, and his comment was that the plane was nice, but a great way to waste money. So if you have enough money to fuck off, get the 550. I drove one and it felt a little less lively than the 535, but the warp speed acceleration was pretty cool and if I didn't mind it came All the additional costs, that's what I would have gotten.
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| wilstave (508hp) | losangeles535 – if BMW mixed up their numbers (seems pretty plausible since it surprised me too) then so be it. But regardless of this, the deviation is 1% to 2%! I've driven both cars and would say I'm a pretty smart driver - and I'm hard-pressed to say there's a significant difference in handling on the road. And if so, then it's more about the overall weight than the slight difference in balance. Both cars are large and heavy, the 550 slightly heavier. But both the DHP and the sports suspension equally ensure that this car dances on the road. I have the DHP and can tell you that I cornered at considerable speed without even the slightest hint of instability. You're far more likely to seriously break the law, endanger your life and drive recklessly than you are to push this car to its limits on the road... it's as simple as that. If it were a race car it would certainly make sense to analyze his balance and weight down to the pound... but that's not the case. I think Grover got it right. The 550 is more of a niche player in the F10 range. The 528 and 535 will be well above the mass sellers as they offer the performance that most drivers would consider adequate while maximizing economy (a great balance). But if money is no object, it's hard to argue with the 550's performance. I could have easily been happy with the 535 - it's a fast car. But I was more than happy to pay a few dollars more for the 550's performance. I'm getting ready to place an order for an R8. I could go for the V8, but why would I do that when there's also a V10 option? I don't know many car enthusiasts who, if money were no object, would turn down more power! It's counterintuitive. You could say the M5 is even MORE niche than the 550. Now you have much smaller sales, much higher performance and at the end of the day you could make some of the same arguments here - do you really need it? ? No, of course not. Honestly, if the M5 were available with xDrive, I'd drive it as a DD today - but because it's not, that's the only reason I downgraded it to the 550. Otherwise, the following generally applies: more power = good. When someone is considering the 528, 535, or 550, the main concern should just be the capital outlay. If you don't value the additional power, both models 528 and 535 will certainly suffice. There is no point in spending money on something you don't want or value. But as Alan said, if you value more performance, the only real concern (when buying new) should be the capital outlay. I honestly think that considering the cost of gas for a $60,000 to $90,000 car should actually be almost irrelevant. Driving fast comes at a price, and in this case it may cost an extra thousand dollars a year or something in gas. Maintenance? Not a consideration in my opinion if it's new - the N63Tu will hopefully prove to be a more reliable engine, just as the N55 proved to be a big increase in reliability over the N54. Last point: Grover is also right about depreciation. And if you're worried about that, get the 528 or 535. You'll find a buyer quicker when it's time to sell and will likely have lost less value.
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| mason07 (630hp) | I've been on a new 550 for about a month (from 2 V8-X5): 1. If you're worried about oil consumption, just stop by your local BMW dealer and they'll be happy to refill, like mine two previous cars different month for the last 6 years. 2. If you are worried about fuel economy, NEVER buy an SUV. This car isn't great (and has a smaller fuel tank), but overall it's not terrible - considering. 3. This is the first car I've ever gotten that I can honestly say has unnecessary power. The car is FAST. I drive it faster than my 911 and often find myself going over 100mph on the highway. It's big, clumsy, isolated and fast. 4. I'm so glad I got the 550. I wish I could hear it more, but overall it's worth every $4.12 gallon that flows out of it every 14 miles or so when you hit the gas and feel it go!
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| 22101993 (506hp) | I bought a fully loaded 535i Msport. The car looks beautiful and attracts attention wherever it goes. 19 inch rims and everything you can imagine. But my next car is an M4.
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| 07101995 (884hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass losangeles535 - if BMW mixed up their numbers (seems pretty plausible since it surprised me too) then so be it. But regardless of this, the deviation is 1% to 2%! I've driven both cars and would say I'm a pretty smart driver - and I'm hard-pressed to say there's a significant difference in handling on the road. And if so, then it's more about the overall weight than the slight difference in balance. Both cars are large and heavy, the 550 slightly heavier. But both the DHP and the sports suspension equally ensure that this car dances on the road. I have the DHP and can tell you that I cornered at considerable speed without even the slightest hint of instability. You're far more likely to seriously break the law, endanger your life and drive recklessly than you are to push this car to its limits on the road... it's as simple as that. If it were a race car it would certainly make sense to analyze his balance and weight down to the pound... but that's not the case. I think Grover got it right. The 550 is more of a niche player in the F10 range. The 528 and 535 will be well above the mass sellers as they offer the performance that most drivers would consider adequate while maximizing economy (a great balance). But if money is no object, it's hard to argue with the 550's performance. I could have easily been happy with the 535 - it's a fast car. But I was more than happy to pay a few dollars more for the 550's performance. I'm getting ready to place an order for an R8. I could go for the V8, but why would I do that when there's also a V10 option? I don't know many car enthusiasts who, if money were no object, would turn down more power! It's counterintuitive. You could say the M5 is even MORE niche than the 550. Now you have much smaller sales, much higher performance and at the end of the day you could make some of the same arguments here - do you really need it? ? No, of course not. Honestly, if the M5 were available with xDrive, I'd drive it as a DD today - but because it's not, that's the only reason I downgraded it to the 550. Otherwise, the following generally applies: more power = good. When someone is considering the 528, 535, or 550, the main concern should just be the capital outlay. If you don't value the additional power, both models 528 and 535 will certainly suffice. There is no point in spending money on something you don't want or value. But as Alan said, if you value more performance, the only real concern (when buying new) should be the capital outlay. I honestly think that considering the cost of gas for a $60,000 to $90,000 car should actually be almost irrelevant. Driving fast comes at a price, and in this case it may cost an extra thousand dollars a year or something in gas. Maintenance? Not a consideration in my opinion if it's new - the N63Tu will hopefully prove to be a more reliable engine, just as the N55 proved to be a big increase in reliability over the N54. Last point: Grover is also right about depreciation. And if you're worried about that, get the 528 or 535. You'll find a buyer quicker when it's time to sell and will likely have lost less value. Just to answer, the 550 doesn't dance on the road, I have 535.
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| astound (504hp) | From two 550s to 535? Slight performance increase? It's funny to read how people try to justify their purchase. Yes, 535 is superior! All 550 owners made a mistake!
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| 180884 (436hp) | Heavy nose lol. Whatever that means.
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| 27021981 (525hp) | LOL, this thread... If a 550i is drivable, then I want all my cars to be drivable. I'm barely scratching the surface of what this thing can do. The 535i in my rearview mirror may be pondering the downsides of said nose load as I cruise down the road.
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| 159357258456 (882hp) | 550The i with its V8 engine is the next heaviest with a weight distribution of 52.5/47.5 percent front and rear, the 535i with its I6 has 50.9/49.1 percent. Both are front-heavy, so if you like drag racing, get the 550i, but if you like cornering, get the 535i and the 535i, BMW's best engine. The 550i was made just for Americans. You can choose which acceleration (550i) or which handling you want (535i).).
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| mama2010 (994hp) | If you get the 535, you'll love it as long as you never drive a 550! I did that until I drove the 550. Now I own one!
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| Packers1 (64hp) | Lol, actually. I drove both. Nose melts. Sounds like a rationalization to me. OP, drive both. I highly doubt you will notice the claimed rhino weight.
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| 77779999 (470hp) | I also understand that the 550 has more reliability issues, particularly due to the injectors.
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| 120778 (555hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lovec1990 Yes, I'm serious. The 550i is nose heavy and has worse handling compared to the 535i and you notice it when you push. I felt it when driving 550i and 535i on the track, but it's not noticeable during normal driving. Yes, I had the 550 in 2011, it is definitely heavier, definitely heavy at the front and pushes in the corners, the handling is not as good as the 535, that is noticeable to anyone who drives both. This was noticeable in everyday traffic; I didn't need a trace to be completely disappointed with the support load.
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| 060609 (937hp) | There are more advantages of the 535xi over the 550xi, but in my opinion: I'll leave out the sound because it's subjective. 550xi: + acceleration - range - handling - operating costs 535xi: + handling + range + operating costs - acceleration
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| babi1234 (639hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lovec1990 There are more advantages of 535xi over 550xi, but in my opinion I will leave out the sound because it is subjective. 550xi: + Acceleration - Range - Handling - Operating costs 535xi: + Handling + Range + Operating costs - Acceleration Don't forget oil consumption!
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| 131988 (816hp) | lovec1990 – I’m not sure where you got your numbers from. BMW's website shows: 550xi: 47%/53% (front/rear) 550i: 48.5%/51.5% (front/rear) 535xi: 48.3%/51.7% (front/rear) 535i: 49.6%/50.4% (front/rear) rear) So according to BMW NONE of these cars are actually nose-heavy. Admittedly, these are numbers from 2014 - I'm not sure if they have changed since 2011. They all have a little over 50% of their weight in their back half...unless someone can prove otherwise? I took the above information directly from the BMW website and data sheets. Regardless, ANY car that comes close to a 50/50 split will feel great. Unless you ride a 550 every day, your opinion is truly moot. I've driven my 550xi HARD through a number of real-world scenarios - on- and off-ramps, winding backroads, etc. I've never felt remotely disadvantaged by a weight distribution issue. Why? Because there aren't any! Even if these cars were used on a racetrack (and that's obviously not what they're intended for!), I think it would be very difficult for a normal Joe to notice a difference in weight distribution. If someone is considering a 550 or a 535, they should make the decision based on REAL differences - like fuel economy - and made-up nonsense like weight distribution. I really want to meet the guy who's going to push his 5 Series so hard and whose driving skills are so professional that he's going to recognize a fragmented weight distribution between these cars... and then it's going to somehow impede the car's intended use and tempt you to buy another model! HA-HA!! Seriously?? I chose the 550 over the 535 because there is a huge difference in the performance of the car. The 550 is a FAST sedan while the 535 is quick. Did I need the power of the 550? No. Do I like it? Absolutely. Nobody really NEEDS a twin-turbo V8 in a sedan. But if you're the type of person who really enjoys putting out the power on the highway or taking a spirited jaunt to 60 every now and then, the 550 is the way to go. However, the 550 has higher fuel and oil consumption. Big yay! My car was $86,000 MSRP. If you're worried about the few dollar difference in fuel prices, honestly, you probably have no right NOT to buy ANY car. Buy a Camry or Accord... and save tens of thousands. If you can afford the car, you can also afford the gas that goes into it. Yes, there may also be higher maintenance costs - the N63 (pre-LCI) was not the most reliable compared to the N55. But the N55 had the advantage of being better than the N54 (which I owned in my 335i)...and that was a much more problematic engine than the N63. Now the N63Tu should bring the engine on par with the N55 in terms of reliability as a second generation, with similar updates that the N55 received from the N54 (e.g. fuel injectors). If you're considering a 535 or 550, I think the only REAL factor is the purchase price. Gasoline should probably be far away, as the difference over the life of the vehicle may only be a few thousand dollars - a drop in the bucket compared to the prices of these cars. And maintenance is really only a factor if you're buying a used car or plan to keep the car outside of the warranty period. Otherwise it's not a problem.
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| pepper22 (518hp) | Even your numbers show that the 535i has better weight distribution and that means better handling too
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| 06021981 (523hp) | It's not about the cost of oil or gasoline, it's about the agony of constantly stopping to get synthetic oil and put it in. I guess now you're going to tell me I don't deserve 550 if I have to refill the oil in me. Your weight information should be checked. I would look for a BMW misprint. There is no way the front of the 550 weighs less than the back. think about it? How would that make any sense? And yes, you can feel the difference in the excessive front weight, and the 550 pushes itself in mild everyday curves. I have owned four BMWs recently, two of which were 550s and two of which were 535s. So I can say that even though I know how they drive after driving the cars for a few years.
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| 300991 (459hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass lovec1990 - I'm not sure where you got your numbers from. BMW's website shows: 550xi: 47%/53% (front/rear) 550i: 48.5%/51.5% (front/rear) 535xi: 48.3%/51.7% (front/rear) 535i: 49.6%/50.4% (front/rear) rear) So according to BMW NONE of these cars are actually nose-heavy. Admittedly, these are numbers from 2014 - I'm not sure if they have changed since 2011. They all have a little over 50% of their weight in their back half...unless someone can prove otherwise? I took the above information directly from the BMW website and data sheets. Regardless, ANY car that comes close to a 50/50 split will feel great. Unless you ride a 550 every day, your opinion is truly moot. I've driven my 550xi HARD through a number of real-world scenarios - on- and off-ramps, winding backroads, etc. I've never felt remotely disadvantaged by a weight distribution issue. Why? Because there aren't any! Even if these cars were used on a racetrack (and that's obviously not what they're intended for!), I think it would be very difficult for a normal Joe to notice a difference in weight distribution. If someone is considering a 550 or a 535, they should make the decision based on REAL differences - like fuel economy - and made-up nonsense like weight distribution. I really want to meet the guy who's going to push his 5 Series so hard and whose driving skills are so professional that he's going to recognize a fragmented weight distribution between these cars... and then it's going to somehow impede the car's intended use and tempt you to buy another model! HA-HA!! Seriously?? I chose the 550 over the 535 because there is a huge difference in the performance of the car. The 550 is a FAST sedan while the 535 is quick. Did I need the power of the 550? No. Do I like it? Absolutely. Nobody really NEEDS a twin-turbo V8 in a sedan. But if you're the type of person who really enjoys putting out the power on the highway or taking a spirited jaunt to 60 every now and then, the 550 is the way to go. However, the 550 has higher fuel and oil consumption. Big yay! My car was $86,000 MSRP. If you're worried about the few dollar difference in fuel prices, honestly, you probably have no right NOT to buy ANY car. Buy a Camry or Accord... and save tens of thousands. If you can afford the car, you can also afford the gas that goes into it. Yes, there may also be higher maintenance costs - the N63 (pre-LCI) was not the most reliable compared to the N55. But the N55 had the advantage of being better than the N54 (which I owned in my 335i)...and that was a much more problematic engine than the N63. Now the N63Tu should bring the engine on par with the N55 in terms of reliability as a second generation, with similar updates that the N55 received from the N54 (e.g. fuel injectors). If you're considering a 535 or 550, I think the only REAL factor is the purchase price. Gasoline should probably be far away, as the difference over the life of the vehicle may only be a few thousand dollars - a drop in the bucket compared to the prices of these cars. And maintenance is really only a factor if you're buying a used car or plan to keep the car outside of the warranty period. Otherwise it's not a problem. In fact, I have it on several BMW and several review sites right now.
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| 14031993 (484hp) | losangeles535 is right. The 550i is in my personal opinion the worst engine that BMW offers because it has no purpose or was designed as a niche engine and is not a better engine than the 535i and even the 528i is better than the 550i.
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| siddhant (99hp) | Be better defined when you say the 535 and 528 have a better engine. Your and other definitions of “better” could be very different. It's just a matter of opinion and everyone has one (or two) of them. For someone who cares about saving fuel and protecting the planet without wanting to accelerate from 0 to 100 mph as quickly as possible, the 528 is probably the better engine. For the guy who loves feeling the power and torque and doing full-throttle sprints when conditions allow, the 550 is undoubtedly the better choice. The 535 is a good mix of both, but to say that the 550 has the worst engine is not fair. I've had both the F10 535xi and now the 550i and you have to have a very sensitive ass to notice the weight difference in normal driving. Each model has its advantages and disadvantages. Sometimes it's nice to have options... Alan
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| hinder (504hp) | I would have gotten a 550 And the additional cost of the 550 isn't the whole story. They depreciate more quickly, are more expensive to maintain, and when it comes time to sell them used, they sit on the dealer's lot looking for customers while the 535s and 528s move. So in a sense it is a niche player in the F10 range. Of course, when you have the money for all that, who can argue with power? Do you need it? No. Is it nice to have? Yes, my cousin in LA just got his new jet. It is a new Gulfstream G450. I was shocked at the price of the thing when I looked it up. Apparently he can afford it, and his comment was that the plane was nice, but a great way to waste money. So if you have enough money to fuck off, get the 550. I drove one and it felt a little less lively than the 535, but the warp speed acceleration was pretty cool and if I didn't mind it came All the additional costs, that's what I would have gotten.
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| amylou (242hp) | losangeles535 – if BMW mixed up their numbers (seems pretty plausible since it surprised me too) then so be it. But regardless of this, the deviation is 1% to 2%! I've driven both cars and would say I'm a pretty smart driver - and I'm hard-pressed to say there's a significant difference in handling on the road. And if so, then it's more about the overall weight than the slight difference in balance. Both cars are large and heavy, the 550 slightly heavier. But both the DHP and the sports suspension equally ensure that this car dances on the road. I have the DHP and can tell you that I cornered at considerable speed without even the slightest hint of instability. You're far more likely to seriously break the law, endanger your life and drive recklessly than you are to push this car to its limits on the road... it's as simple as that. If it were a race car it would certainly make sense to analyze his balance and weight down to the pound... but that's not the case. I think Grover got it right. The 550 is more of a niche player in the F10 range. The 528 and 535 will be well above the mass sellers as they offer the performance that most drivers would consider adequate while maximizing economy (a great balance). But if money is no object, it's hard to argue with the 550's performance. I could have easily been happy with the 535 - it's a fast car. But I was more than happy to pay a few dollars more for the 550's performance. I'm getting ready to place an order for an R8. I could go for the V8, but why would I do that when there's also a V10 option? I don't know many car enthusiasts who, if money were no object, would turn down more power! It's counterintuitive. You could say the M5 is even MORE niche than the 550. Now you have much smaller sales, much higher performance and at the end of the day you could make some of the same arguments here - do you really need it? ? No, of course not. Honestly, if the M5 were available with xDrive, I'd drive it as a DD today - but because it's not, that's the only reason I downgraded it to the 550. Otherwise, the following generally applies: more power = good. When someone is considering the 528, 535, or 550, the main concern should just be the capital outlay. If you don't value the additional power, both models 528 and 535 will certainly suffice. There is no point in spending money on something you don't want or value. But as Alan said, if you value more performance, the only real concern (when buying new) should be the capital outlay. I honestly think that considering the cost of gas for a $60,000 to $90,000 car should actually be almost irrelevant. Driving fast comes at a price, and in this case it may cost an extra thousand dollars a year or something in gas. Maintenance? Not a consideration in my opinion if it's new - the N63Tu will hopefully prove to be a more reliable engine, just as the N55 proved to be a big increase in reliability over the N54. Last point: Grover is also right about depreciation. And if you're worried about that, get the 528 or 535. You'll find a buyer quicker when it's time to sell and will likely have lost less value.
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| qwerty31 (164hp) | I've been on a new 550 for about a month (from 2 V8-X5): 1. If you're worried about oil consumption, just stop by your local BMW dealer and they'll be happy to refill, like mine two previous cars different month for the last 6 years. 2. If you are worried about fuel economy, NEVER buy an SUV. This car isn't great (and has a smaller fuel tank), but overall it's not terrible - considering. 3. This is the first car I've ever gotten that I can honestly say has unnecessary power. The car is FAST. I drive it faster than my 911 and often find myself going over 100mph on the highway. It's big, clumsy, isolated and fast. 4. I'm so glad I got the 550. I wish I could hear it more, but overall it's worth every $4.12 gallon that flows out of it every 14 miles or so when you hit the gas and feel it go!
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| 190889 (210hp) | I bought a fully loaded 535i Msport. The car looks beautiful and attracts attention wherever it goes. 19 inch rims and everything you can imagine. But my next car is an M4.
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| asdqwe1 (144hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezmaass losangeles535 - if BMW mixed up their numbers (seems pretty plausible since it surprised me too) then so be it. But regardless of this, the deviation is 1% to 2%! I've driven both cars and would say I'm a pretty smart driver - and I'm hard-pressed to say there's a significant difference in handling on the road. And if so, then it's more about the overall weight than the slight difference in balance. Both cars are large and heavy, the 550 slightly heavier. But both the DHP and the sports suspension equally ensure that this car dances on the road. I have the DHP and can tell you that I cornered at considerable speed without even the slightest hint of instability. You're far more likely to seriously break the law, endanger your life and drive recklessly than you are to push this car to its limits on the road... it's as simple as that. If it were a race car it would certainly make sense to analyze his balance and weight down to the pound... but that's not the case. I think Grover got it right. The 550 is more of a niche player in the F10 range. The 528 and 535 will be well above the mass sellers as they offer the performance that most drivers would consider adequate while maximizing economy (a great balance). But if money is no object, it's hard to argue with the 550's performance. I could have easily been happy with the 535 - it's a fast car. But I was more than happy to pay a few dollars more for the 550's performance. I'm getting ready to place an order for an R8. I could go for the V8, but why would I do that when there's also a V10 option? I don't know many car enthusiasts who, if money were no object, would turn down more power! It's counterintuitive. You could say the M5 is even MORE niche than the 550. Now you have much smaller sales, much higher performance and at the end of the day you could make some of the same arguments here - do you really need it? ? No, of course not. Honestly, if the M5 were available with xDrive, I'd drive it as a DD today - but because it's not, that's the only reason I downgraded it to the 550. Otherwise, the following generally applies: more power = good. When someone is considering the 528, 535, or 550, the main concern should just be the capital outlay. If you don't value the additional power, both models 528 and 535 will certainly suffice. There is no point in spending money on something you don't want or value. But as Alan said, if you value more performance, the only real concern (when buying new) should be the capital outlay. I honestly think that considering the cost of gas for a $60,000 to $90,000 car should actually be almost irrelevant. Driving fast comes at a price, and in this case it may cost an extra thousand dollars a year or something in gas. Maintenance? Not a consideration in my opinion if it's new - the N63Tu will hopefully prove to be a more reliable engine, just as the N55 proved to be a big increase in reliability over the N54. Last point: Grover is also right about depreciation. And if you're worried about that, get the 528 or 535. You'll find a buyer quicker when it's time to sell and will likely have lost less value. Just to answer, the 550 doesn't dance on the road, I have 535.
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| 00123 (883hp) | From two 550s to 535? Slight performance increase? It's funny to read how people try to justify their purchase. Yes, 535 is superior! All 550 owners made a mistake!
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| 10101983 (558hp) | Hello everyone, I would like to have my windows tinted. I'm still not sure what tint percentage to use. The standard in MA is 35% for the front, but for the back I can do any %. I wonder how you tint your cars. Do you make the same percentage everywhere or do you make the two front windows brighter? What percentage of tinting are you doing? Also, have any of you tried tinting the windshield about 10-20% darker? Thanks in advance, guys
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| 123.abc (70hp) | I have 30% all around, beige interior.
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| pepite (928hp) | I have 30. But keep in mind that not all shades have the same percentage. For example, some are 28, 35, 40... It really depends on the brand. Additionally, some are more reflective than others, creating a mirror effect. As for me, I think the same thing all around looks best... 30 percent. Check out brands like Llumar, 3M, Solar Guard to get a good tint at a good price.
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| stockton1 (355hp) | I'm planning on tinting my windows this weekend. Are there any recommendations for a tint brand that gives off a hint of green color??
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| wwjd (15hp) | Also consider the color of your interior. Dark interiors don't reflect as much light, giving your tint a darker look. Personally, I like lighter shades and am tired of being hassled by the boys in blue here in NYC, so I went with a 50% ceramic shade. By the way, my interior is black.
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| cheeseball (644hp) | Quote: Originally written by Hollywood Hogan. I'm planning on tinting my windows this weekend. Are there any recommendations for a tint brand that gives off a hint of green color? I went to Tint King in Billerica, MA for my last four cars. I just tinted with the highest quality Llumar tint for $400! Yay! But it's the nicest black 35% and it's an investment. This is an expensive car and deserves to be treated as such.
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| partygirl (583hp) | How much does ceramic tint cost compared to regular tint??
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| 1johnson (53hp) | Formula 1 Pinnacle... 35% all around & 50% on the windshield. Looks like tits! Silver Exterior - Mocha Brown Interior with Black Headliner NY-Metro Area - Visit Tom @ The Art of Tint <,-- Excellent work and a great product...exclusive Formula 1 dealer in the area. The optical clarity of the Formula 1 Pinnacle is far superior to many films I have used in the past, and it is of course color stable... nice black/gray tone (no greens here).)
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| austin19 (443hp) | Quote: Originally written by pillpusher84 Formula 1 Pinnacle... 35% all around and 50% on the windshield. Looks like tits! Do you have 50% on the windshield? How does it look? Are there problems with the police? What color is your interior? Thanks
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| jonh (926hp) | Black on black, 20% rear window, 35% rear doors, 50% front doors
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| 120907 (534hp) | For me, real privacy means putting it in the trunk. I applied Llumar Airblue (80%) all around as sun protection. And I have sunshades for extra protection for the back seat occupants. Having the same tint everywhere makes it look cleaner and I still have good night vision. Another bonus: no police watching me
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| karissa (922hp) | Quote: Originally posted by virtualbong I went to Tint King in Billerica, MA for my last four cars. I just tinted with the highest quality Llumar tint for $400! Yay! But it's the nicest black 35% and it's an investment. This is an expensive car and deserves to be treated as such. Llumar is good stuff, I have the Pinnacle series on my 911 and it works great! I have 35% on the back 3 windows and blue 80 on the doors. My 535d is coming next month so I just got an offer on this car. The basic window tint costs $195 versus $320 for the good products. I pay the additional $125 for Pinnacle tint (ceramic) and the $125 for Blue 80 to keep the car legal in California. If you are interested in the price and description of the product, see below. Applying a film to the rear windows of your 2014 BMW 535 M Sport Sedan costs $195.00. At this price, we use Llumar's Formula 1 Premium Carbon Film "The Classic Series", the industry's highest quality carbon-colored film, on all windows. This includes all carbon tints from 5% (also known as sedan tint) to the lightest 50% film. This film is backed by a hassle-free, comprehensive, nationwide lifetime warranty, guaranteeing that the film will not bubble, discolor, or peel over time. We also have other products with greater heat reduction, the price ultimately depends on the composition of the film you choose. We also carry a solid ceramic building film, the Pinnacle Series. Some vehicles have advanced electronic devices (e.g. smart key systems, Bluetooth, navigation, satellite radio, remote start, etc.) that require the use of a film that does not interfere with electronic signals. For more information about this product, please visit http://www.formulaone.com/en/pinnacle.aspx. This type of film is the most advanced ceramic film on the market with impregnated conductive metal that enables electronic signals. It costs $320.00 to install this film on the rear windows. Our latest offering, Llumar's new Air Blue 80 nanoceramic film for your front doors 2, is a great choice. It is an 80% UV film that complies with CA laws and reduces just as much heat as a traditional sedan tint. This product costs $125.00 for the pair. This film is recognized by the Skin Cancer Foundation for its ability to block 99.9% of UVA and UVB rays. Please note that the state of California regulates the level of light reduction for front windows. We therefore recommend using a film approved in 50 states.
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| katies (545hp) | I just had my brand new GTI tinted all over with 35 percent Sun Tech Carbon Black. Costs 220! Prices for small stores in Northern Virginia compared to expensive chain stores. James
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| 141888 (412hp) | How much should it cost to have my brake calipers painted and sealed? When I picked up my car at UltimateAuto (FL), I asked and was told it would cost $700. That price seems pretty high considering it's not that hard of a job... He said it would cost that much because they would have to remove each caliper for prep, painting and clearcoating. Does anyone in Central Florida (Orlando) know of a good store that can do this???
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| aspen (760hp) | 35 Looks good. Thank you for the pictures. I got a quote for $160 at a small local store. They have 57 reviews on Yelp and all 5 stars. Family business. I guess I'll do 30 for all the windows. 75% on the windshield
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| donomar1 (202hp) | I'm not in Orlando, but I had mine done professionally. They don't need to be removed, just the tires/wheels. People say this to make money off you because you drive a BMW and assume you don't know. My process took 6 hours (drying time), 3 coats and 2 coats of clear coat. I paid $120 because I had other work done, the regular price was $240 and I had a lifetime warranty. If necessary I can take a few closer pictures for you. It is very metallic and shiny and has served about three months of intense driving.
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| V (498hp) | My next window tinting project? James
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| polopo (745hp) | Ok, that's what I thought too... yours looks really good by the way
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| jaylyn (787hp) | Quote: Originally posted by acf10 35 Looks good. Thank you for the pictures. I got a quote for $160 at a small local store. They have 57 reviews on Yelp and all 5 stars. Family business. I guess I'll do 30 for all the windows. 75% on the windshield You're welcome, good choice, post some pictures when you're done! James
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| 1234567890k (761hp) | How much should it cost to have my brake calipers painted and sealed? When I picked up my car at UltimateAuto (FL), I asked and was told it would cost $700. That price seems pretty high considering it's not that hard of a job... He said it would cost that much because they would have to remove each caliper for prep, painting and clearcoating. Does anyone in Central Florida (Orlando) know of a good store that can do this???
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| linkedin8 (546hp) | Tinting is an art and it's all about the installer! Get Llumar CTX ceramics at Tropic Tints in Union. Costs 4 Bills, but it's worth it. Does the price even matter if you travel by car??10?
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| cutlass (871hp) | I'm not in Orlando, but I had mine done professionally. They don't need to be removed, just the tires/wheels. People say this to make money off you because you drive a BMW and assume you don't know. My process took 6 hours (drying time), 3 coats and 2 coats of clear coat. I paid $120 because I had other work done, the regular price was $240 and I had a lifetime warranty. If necessary I can take a few closer pictures for you. It is very metallic and shiny and has served about three months of intense driving.
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| ashley88 (415hp) | 35% Tint looks ghetto! Get all around 50 %!!
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| ty123456 (528hp) | Ok, that's what I thought too... yours looks really good by the way
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| cheng3 (83hp) | I'm not a fan of super dark tints, so this time I went with Pinnacle F1 for 50 front/35. Next time I would definitely consider around 50 euros.
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| myspace96 (753hp) | 40% all around..
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| 240989 (536hp) | I got around 23% in Cali this weekend. I wish I had gotten the 35% like I originally planned. Black sapphire on black int.
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| qwerty90 (547hp) | Quote: Originally written by ectower I just had my brand new GTI tinted all over with 35 percent Sun Tech Carbon Black. Costs 220! Prices for small stores in Northern Virginia compared to expensive chain stores. James, DO NOT get Suntek carbon film...It blows. Optical clarity is non-existent... This film is so blurry on the inside that it's unbearable. I made the mistake of letting my previous installer use this film. Had it removed that same week and applied Formula 1 Pinnacle...much better...clear...like glass should be!
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| 061278 (249hp) | Hello everyone, I would like to have my windows tinted. I'm still not sure what tint percentage to use. The standard in MA is 35% for the front, but for the back I can do any %. I wonder how you tint your cars. Do you make the same percentage everywhere or do you make the two front windows brighter? What percentage of tinting are you doing? Also, have any of you tried tinting the windshield about 10-20% darker? Thanks in advance, guys
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| formation (703hp) | I have 30% all around, beige interior.
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| 170877 (413hp) | I have 30. But keep in mind that not all shades have the same percentage. For example, some are 28, 35, 40... It really depends on the brand. Additionally, some are more reflective than others, creating a mirror effect. As for me, I think the same thing all around looks best... 30 percent. Check out brands like Llumar, 3M, Solar Guard to get a good tint at a good price.
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| nirvana123 (648hp) | I'm planning on tinting my windows this weekend. Are there any recommendations for a tint brand that gives off a hint of green color??
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| butthole2 (53hp) | Also consider the color of your interior. Dark interiors don't reflect as much light, giving your tint a darker look. Personally, I like lighter shades and am tired of being hassled by the boys in blue here in NYC, so I went with a 50% ceramic shade. By the way, my interior is black.
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| hyphy1 (610hp) | Quote: Originally written by Hollywood Hogan. I'm planning on tinting my windows this weekend. Are there any recommendations for a tint brand that gives off a hint of green color? I went to Tint King in Billerica, MA for my last four cars. I just tinted with the highest quality Llumar tint for $400! Yay! But it's the nicest black 35% and it's an investment. This is an expensive car and deserves to be treated as such.
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| jordan92 (171hp) | How much does ceramic tint cost compared to regular tint??
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| gethigh420 (409hp) | Formula 1 Pinnacle... 35% all around & 50% on the windshield. Looks like tits! Silver Exterior - Mocha Brown Interior with Black Headliner NY-Metro Area - Visit Tom @ The Art of Tint <,-- Excellent work and a great product...exclusive Formula 1 dealer in the area. The optical clarity of the Formula 1 Pinnacle is far superior to many films I have used in the past, and it is of course color stable... nice black/gray tone (no greens here).)
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| Password7 (405hp) | Quote: Originally written by pillpusher84 Formula 1 Pinnacle... 35% all around and 50% on the windshield. Looks like tits! Do you have 50% on the windshield? How does it look? Are there problems with the police? What color is your interior? Thanks
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| 19061980 (205hp) | Black on black, 20% rear window, 35% rear doors, 50% front doors
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| 09051993 (284hp) | For me, real privacy means putting it in the trunk. I applied Llumar Airblue (80%) all around as sun protection. And I have sunshades for extra protection for the back seat occupants. Having the same tint everywhere makes it look cleaner and I still have good night vision. Another bonus: no police watching me
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| apopescu (930hp) | Quote: Originally posted by virtualbong I went to Tint King in Billerica, MA for my last four cars. I just tinted with the highest quality Llumar tint for $400! Yay! But it's the nicest black 35% and it's an investment. This is an expensive car and deserves to be treated as such. Llumar is good stuff, I have the Pinnacle series on my 911 and it works great! I have 35% on the back 3 windows and blue 80 on the doors. My 535d is coming next month so I just got an offer on this car. The basic window tint costs $195 versus $320 for the good products. I pay the additional $125 for Pinnacle tint (ceramic) and the $125 for Blue 80 to keep the car legal in California. If you are interested in the price and description of the product, see below. Applying a film to the rear windows of your 2014 BMW 535 M Sport Sedan costs $195.00. At this price, we use Llumar's Formula 1 Premium Carbon Film "The Classic Series", the industry's highest quality carbon-colored film, on all windows. This includes all carbon tints from 5% (also known as sedan tint) to the lightest 50% film. This film is backed by a hassle-free, comprehensive, nationwide lifetime warranty, guaranteeing that the film will not bubble, discolor, or peel over time. We also have other products with greater heat reduction, the price ultimately depends on the composition of the film you choose. We also carry a solid ceramic building film, the Pinnacle Series. Some vehicles have advanced electronic devices (e.g. smart key systems, Bluetooth, navigation, satellite radio, remote start, etc.) that require the use of a film that does not interfere with electronic signals. For more information about this product, please visit http://www.formulaone.com/en/pinnacle.aspx. This type of film is the most advanced ceramic film on the market with impregnated conductive metal that enables electronic signals. It costs $320.00 to install this film on the rear windows. Our latest offering, Llumar's new Air Blue 80 nanoceramic film for your front doors 2, is a great choice. It is an 80% UV film that complies with CA laws and reduces just as much heat as a traditional sedan tint. This product costs $125.00 for the pair. This film is recognized by the Skin Cancer Foundation for its ability to block 99.9% of UVA and UVB rays. Please note that the state of California regulates the level of light reduction for front windows. We therefore recommend using a film approved in 50 states.
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