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| master0 (191hp) | Very satisfied so far. averaged 55+ mpg over the 45 miles home and very insulated from loud noises in comfort mode. Write back in a week once I've ridden a few miles and figured out what the buttons do. Officially built 3 days before the 2013 model, I don't think I'm missing much
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| db2das1 (33hp) | The 528 is an excellent choice. The MSA functionality takes a few days to get used to. Ideal in traffic and on the highway.
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| blue4ever (565hp) | Quote: Originally published by The . I wish my 535xi could get gas mileage like your 528, ultimately that's what suits its needs best. But wait... the gas mpg is so similar... Is there even a noticeable difference between the 528i and the 535i? According to FuelEconomy.gov: 2012 BMW 528i 4 cyl, 2.0L City 23, Combined 27, Highway 34, cost per year $2,250 2012 BMW 535i 6 cyl, 3.0L City 21, Combined 25, Highway 31, cost per year $2400
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| ariella (424hp) | Touché First order of play, snow foam, wash, clay, machine waxing then a few coats of sealing wax
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| summer20 (985hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan But wait...the gas mpg is so similar...Is there even a noticeable difference between the 528i and the 535i? According to FuelEconomy.gov: 2012 BMW 528i 4 cyl, 2.0L City 23, Combined 27, Highway 34, cost per year $2,250. BMW 535i 2012 6 cyl, 3.0L City 21, Combined 25, Highway 31, cost per year $2,400. The 535i is faster, smoother and quieter.
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| 1williams (973hp) | 250 miles and a sad fact is that the engine warms up in a few minutes, I guess it's the grille shutters - the e91 took over 8 miles and this installs in less than 2 AND there is a temp gauge d 'oil. The sport automatic transmission is amazing, doesn't feel shifts and responds instantly to paddles - definitely a lot more power at 3,500 rpm, but said not to exceed that before break-in. Left to its own devices in comfort, it will shift to speeds from around 1800 to 1500 rpm. 85 on the odometer equates to just under 2,200 highway revs. Still averages 55mpg but uses more urban due to weight. Very quiet inside, the front window is very thick and driving on 17s and in comfort or sport on vdc is much improved compared to the previous e91. All the harshness is gone, but you can still feel the road underneath, definitely no thud and you didn't feel the need to go around small road imperfections like I would in the 3. Electronic goodies are all amazing and the professional stereo installs well. after a few hours of use. Overall it's a much more relaxed ride, even in sport it's not as satisfying as a 3 for launching into a lane but the comfort more than makes up for it. Very satisfied and will take photos once I have time to prepare for the paint job
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| 21031988 (610hp) | Hello everyone, I bet this topic has already been expanded upon, but I guess I'll make a new post anyway. We're heading to Germany in July and considering adding Euro delivery of a new 5 Series to the schedule. Aside from the logistics being squeezed, we have a debate over the 528 vs. the 535. The car is primarily intended for woman's use as a means of daily transportation and as a car to impress clients who take them out to dinner, etc. Maybe a travel car, but we have two Golden Retrievers, which reduces the likelihood. The wife doesn't care about the powertrain. She just wants a white Nappa with beige with the M-Sport package and a few other options. I'm intrigued by the 528, but I have a (probably immature) problem with the idea of a 4 cylinder in a 5 series. Ok in 1, acceptable in 3, but in 5? Does anyone have any thoughts or tips to share? Thanks, Chris
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| scott in cincy (789hp) | 350 miles up First explosion on the road and in sports with manual gearbox, I had fun accelerating at full throttle but remaining at 3500 revs max. The car is quite dynamic if you can maintain revs above 3000 km, it is as fast as the 184 hp e91 with the 6 speed automatic. Really find the paddles at hand, for example for overtaking - a few strokes and you can overtake everything safely. The only problem is its size on country roads, heartbroken when something comes the other way. Ride quality continues to impress, slow speed city driving is best in comfort, then on decent surfaces or at high speeds sport is best. Very good steering in sport and the car can carry a lot of speed through corners, more than the e91se but not as much as my 123d. The seats are very comfortable and the navigation system, pro stereo, etc. are very comfortable. continue to impress. Overall, I'm still deeply impressed. Photos after washing on Saturday.
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| annieb (793hp) | The new N20 4-cylinder turbo is a great engine in every way. It proved to be faster than the old 6,528 inline and more fuel efficient. The only thing is that the engine doesn't sound as good as the 6, which is expected, just like the 6 doesn't sound as good as the V8. Since the car is for your wife and power isn't her main concern, I'd stick with the 528 and save you a nice chunk of change. If the car is for you, I would say 535/550 if you like performance and use powerful cars. If you're coming from the Civic, even a 528 will feel fast, but if you're coming from the V8, the 535/550 is your best bet. Alan
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| adeoye (361hp) | Well, if perception bothers you, then you should consider the 535. However, what intrigues you about the 528? I use the 528 daily and I love this car, I never feel like the engine lacks power in any situation, and the engine also satisfies my practical side. You need to see what best suits your needs. If you think the 528 drives great, but you will be labeled a cheapskate, then get the 535, 550, M5, etc., otherwise I don't see why you shouldn't buy the 528. It's just my opinion, either way, you will drive with a smile on your face.
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| 700091 (193hp) | chrison600, best thing to do is ask my wife to test the 528 and 535, I tested all three engines before deciding on the 6 cylinder. I wouldn't call the 6 cylinder a power package, it's really not that quick, above average for cars in this price range and size. The 8 cylinder. I would call for an electric package, but the gas mileage is horrible. The 4 cylinder is a little noisier and the start stop function is a little more brutal. We have a lot of short ramps here in the North, the 528 in sport mode barely has enough power to merge into a short ramp. My problem with leaving sport mode is that the acceleration is very harsh and doesn't make for a smooth ride, but I don't think you have this problem in Texas because the highways are pretty well spaced and the ramps are normal length..
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| 25071983 (482hp) | Quote: Originally posted by The I wouldn't call the 6 cylinder a power package, it's really not that quick, above average for cars in this price range and size. The 8 cylinder. I would call for an electric package, but the gas mileage is horrible. The 4 cylinder is a little noisier and the start stop function is a little more brutal. We have a lot of short ramps here in the North, the 528 in sport mode barely has enough power to merge into a short ramp. My problem with leaving sport mode is that the acceleration is very harsh and doesn't make for a smooth ride, but I don't think you have that problem in Texas because the highways are pretty well spaced and the ramps are normal length. Okay, there's not much difference in power feel between the 528 and the 535, but why do you say the start/stop is rougher. It was exactly the same for me. I would like to point out that there is no problem merging on any ramp with the N20, whether in D or DS, Sport or Comfort. The N20 works effortlessly in most situations
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| 1a2s3d4f5g (508hp) | this is not a recommendation, but it is strange that there is a perception that with 528 you are a cheapskate for the same reasoning for those British guys who debadged the 520d for not being labeled as such. A 5 is by no means cheap regardless of the model, at least for me anyway. I haven't tested a 528 but I come from a 335 so I wanted to have the same driving experience so I opted for the 535.
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| donnie1 (205hp) | It is June 19th. You are going to Germany in July and want to do ED... is this deadline even possible? Additionally, there is no tan (Venetian beige). Only Oyster or Black.
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| myspace82 (325hp) | chrison600, the 528i (N20) should suit you for your use of the car. I received a 2012 528i on loan a few months ago, I was quite impressed with the torque. The N20 is a quantum leap compared to other 2.0T engines. I experienced no turbo lag compared to my old EVO IX or my buddy's Audi A4. If you really need more power than 240 hp/260 lb tq, software adjustments will match the N55's performance. The negatives I noticed are rough idling when starting from cold (around 30-40 degrees outside) and preheating takes a little longer than the N55. You live in Austin, Texas, so cold start and coolant warm-up delays shouldn't be a problem..
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| myspace420 (965hp) | The 528 produces torque and horsepower numbers that 6 cylinders produced 7 or 8 years ago...definitely not slow at all. 535 is tunable...and has the six in a row. Otherwise, nothing really wrong with a 528. They are luxury sedans after all...not a 911 or a Ferrari. You don't need tons of power. Plus, cops are everywhere, so speeding isn't really an option...
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| 21111990 (820hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Needsdecaf It's June 19th. You are going to Germany in July and want to do ED... is this deadline even possible? Additionally, there is no tan (Venetian beige). Only Oyster or Black. We knew it was far from possible, but we thought we'd give it a try anyway. Delivery in euros is prohibited, so we will pause on the purchase and take our time... Thanks for all the answers! Chris
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| jorge23 (649hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta Okay, there's not much difference in power feel between the 528 and the 535, but why do you say the start/stop is rougher. It was exactly the same for me. I would like to point out that there is no problem merging on any ramp with the N20, whether in D or DS, Sport or Comfort. The N20 works effortlessly in most situations. Around town, the 528i is almost as quick as the 535i, but once on the highway, the difference is greater. A 4 cylinder engine generally starts more suddenly than a 6, I felt the difference between the two engines. One can wait for a wider opening when merging on the highway or try to force their way to a smaller opening, so what I consider a merging problem may not be the same as yours . The N20 seems to run much harder than the N55, judging by the RPM, it does. Don't get me wrong, I think the N20 is a great engine, right up there with the Audi 2.0T, which is one of the top ten turbo fours on the market. I wish my 535xi could get gas mileage like your 528, in the end it's what meets the needs that matters most..
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| music24 (896hp) | Quote: Originally posted by The A 4 cylinder engine generally starts more suddenly than a 6, I felt the difference between the two engines. One can wait for a wider opening when merging on the highway or try to force their way to a smaller opening, so what I consider a merging problem may not be the same as yours . I never stop at the on-ramp and can blend into whatever space I find when I get there, and my N20 has never gotten in my way. I see a lot of more powerful cars that can't merge, and a lot of Kias that do pretty well. It's more of a driving skill (or just a skill) than anything else.
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| JNKS-F10 (148hp) | Quote: Originally posted by The A 4 cylinder engine generally starts more suddenly than a 6, I felt the difference between the two engines. I too felt like I had a rougher start when I first bought my car, and that rough start was gone after a few weeks. It's pretty quiet now when I start it. Maybe it needed to be broken in?
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| 337733 (500hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta I never stop at the on-ramp and can blend into any space I find when I get there, and my N20 has never gotten in my way . I see a lot of more powerful cars that can't merge, and a lot of Kias that do pretty well. It's more of a driving skill (or just a skill) than anything else. I tell you what, if you don't notice any difference between the 4 cylinders. and the 6 cylinder, then you just save yourself $5000
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| sofiya (506hp) | Quote: Originally posted by The X Men I tell you what, if you don't notice any difference between the 4 cyl. and the 6 cylinder, then you save about $5,000. My point is that 240 horsepower and 260 lb-ft of torque are more than enough to navigate all normal driving situations, so I don't buy into the meltdown issue. Of course, you have to buy what he likes and wants.
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| 1southside (915hp) | N20 tunes will be available very soon, as all BMW *28i will be standardized on the N20 with an 8-speed automatic transmission (manual is of course optional). I hear 300 hp/300 ft being accomplished with an ECU flash. This should close the performance gap and the 528i is almost 200 pounds lighter. I hope the market gets flooded with mods for the N20 more quickly. He has a lot of potential. I drove the loaner 528i in Sport+, I think it has plenty of power for merging and highway speed.
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| stepashka (814hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta My point is that 240 horsepower and 260 lb ft tq is more than enough to navigate all normal driving situations, so I don't buy into the meltdown issue. Of course, you have to buy what you like and what you want. That's definitely your opinion and I don't agree, but I agree that the 528 has enough power for normal driving situations, the problem is I need a little more power in certain abnormal situations. Power, just like the design of a car or the interior, is subjective, everyone will have a different opinion. Some even find the 535 under tension and prefer the 550.
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| 19111983 (221hp) | Does anyone know how BMW's production schedule is managed and what its relationship is to Euro delivery windows? For example, is there a period when the production line is equipped for Series 5 models and is the window for European delivery of the Series 5, or is the Euro Del schedule open for any model at any time and can any model be run production at any time? Chris
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| 100876 (76hp) | Get the 528 if the car is primarily for your wife's daily use. For my taste, even the 535 is underpowered! It's definitely a personal preference!
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| 170182 (962hp) | The 528 is an excellent choice. The MSA functionality takes a few days to get used to. Ideal in traffic and on the highway.
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| cguarini (609hp) | Quote: Originally published by The . I wish my 535xi could get gas mileage like your 528, ultimately that's what suits its needs best. But wait... the gas mpg is so similar... Is there even a noticeable difference between the 528i and the 535i? According to FuelEconomy.gov: 2012 BMW 528i 4 cyl, 2.0L City 23, Combined 27, Highway 34, cost per year $2,250 2012 BMW 535i 6 cyl, 3.0L City 21, Combined 25, Highway 31, cost per year $2400
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| ImperialBlue (345hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan But wait...the gas mpg is so similar...Is there even a noticeable difference between the 528i and the 535i? According to FuelEconomy.gov: 2012 BMW 528i 4 cyl, 2.0L City 23, Combined 27, Highway 34, cost per year $2,250. BMW 535i 2012 6 cyl, 3.0L City 21, Combined 25, Highway 31, cost per year $2,400. The 535i is faster, smoother and quieter.
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| 18011980 (818hp) | I apologize if I missed a previous thread on this subject. I looked and couldn't find any. What are the options for adding a remote starter to Series 5? This should be aftermarket, unless a factory installed unit is an obscure factory order option. I know there are reasons not to do it. These reasons have been around for ages and they are not necessarily specific to BMW. But for me, having a starter for the winter months is a big deal. If anyone can share some ideas I would be grateful.
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| tom @ eas (937hp) | I think with keyless start it might be difficult to install a new 5er with remote start. If I'm wrong, I would certainly be tempted to do so despite the arguments against, but I can't with my current model. because of the glow plug problem. In the Great White North, it's easy to see why anyone would want to!
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| semen (574hp) | http://www.eberspaecher.com/servlet/..._l1/index.html
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| lm292979 (519hp) | Any other comments or ideas on this subject?
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| antoha (812hp) | I searched too. I hope someone has experience doing this.
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| terry2 (651hp) | I have had remote starts on all my vehicles except my previous BMW. I use the most reputable location in a town of 1,000,000 recommended by local Honda/Acura/GM/Ford dealers. They won't touch any BMWs because they are worried about liability and the complexity of the electrical systems. I wouldn't do it, but if you choose to do it, make sure you go to the oldest and most reputable installer where you are (but I guess if that's the status of the company, they will probably refuse to work on a new 5er).).
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| kiki09 (84hp) | Last week I had a Directed Electronics remote starter installed in my 2012 550xi. Specifically, I had it reinstalled because this same unit was previously in my 2007 550i. Sorry, I can't give you all the technical details, but the key, from my point of view, is to find a good shop with an experienced installer. In other words, you can't go to Best Buy and let the kid with buttons play with your car. (I hope that's obvious!) I believe the installer copied a store in Canada that had created a set of step-by-step instructions on how to bypass BMW security features and software. I used Independence Audio in Independence, MO both times. Last time the installation cost around $650 (no additional equipment was required). It works wonderfully! I live in Kansas City and we are in the middle of the hottest summer since 1954. Every day at 5:15 a.m. the system prompts me to turn on the car (and the air conditioning) before leaving work to go home Me. To like!
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| musico (322hp) | I apologize if I missed a previous thread on this subject. I looked and couldn't find any. What are the options for adding a remote starter to Series 5? This should be aftermarket, unless a factory installed unit is an obscure factory order option. I know there are reasons not to do it. These reasons have been around for ages and they are not necessarily specific to BMW. But for me, having a starter for the winter months is a big deal. If anyone can share some ideas I would be grateful.
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| 210488 (845hp) | I think with keyless start it might be difficult to install a new 5er with remote start. If I'm wrong, I would certainly be tempted to do so despite the arguments against, but I can't with my current model. because of the glow plug problem. In the Great White North, it's easy to see why anyone would want to!
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| blare (771hp) | http://www.eberspaecher.com/servlet/..._l1/index.html
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| bbbb (662hp) | Any other comments or ideas on this subject?
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| classroo (817hp) | I searched too. I hope someone has experience doing this.
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| schen (535hp) | I have had remote starts on all my vehicles except my previous BMW. I use the most reputable location in a town of 1,000,000 recommended by local Honda/Acura/GM/Ford dealers. They won't touch any BMWs because they are worried about liability and the complexity of the electrical systems. I wouldn't do it, but if you choose to do it, make sure you go to the oldest and most reputable installer where you are (but I guess if that's the status of the company, they will probably refuse to work on a new 5er).).
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| icecold (746hp) | Last week I had a Directed Electronics remote starter installed in my 2012 550xi. Specifically, I had it reinstalled because this same unit was previously in my 2007 550i. Sorry, I can't give you all the technical details, but the key, from my point of view, is to find a good shop with an experienced installer. In other words, you can't go to Best Buy and let the kid with buttons play with your car. (I hope that's obvious!) I believe the installer copied a store in Canada that had created a set of step-by-step instructions on how to bypass BMW security features and software. I used Independence Audio in Independence, MO both times. Last time the installation cost around $650 (no additional equipment was required). It works wonderfully! I live in Kansas City and we are in the middle of the hottest summer since 1954. Every day at 5:15 a.m. the system prompts me to turn on the car (and the air conditioning) before leaving work to go home Me. To like!
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| 24101995 (699hp) | I had a problem with my 15 month old F10 about 2 months ago where the alarm was continuously ringing while I was driving (very embarrassing when the dealership is 30 miles away in Cardiff city centre). The dealer first removed the fishfinder so I could continue driving, then replaced it a few days later. Last week the same thing happened, they took the fishfinder apart again and on Monday I took it back so they could get to the bottom of it and fix it. I received a call from the dealer this afternoon saying they had finally found the fault, a break in the main wiring harness where it passes through one of the body bulkheads....the problem is that to fix it they will have to replace the entire loom, so they are looking at a major job which I am told will cost thousands of dollars. So they called BMW for advice on what to do next, we are now waiting for BMW's response in the morning........
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| 140183 (373hp) | I had the same problem with mine, it was a short circuit under the rear bumper. Guarantee.
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| 191186 (337hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Touring I had the same problem with mine, it was a short under the rear bumper. Guarantee. Did they replace the complete loom or did they just repair it?
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| chiquita (170hp) | I hope you are still under warranty...
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| kovalskaya-t (572hp) | Still under warranty, so no issues, but the dealer mentioned that BMW might choose to give me a new car? It seemed a bit exaggerated?
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| ludhiana (456hp) | Probably so they can find out how such a defect escaped quality control in production. Also, I'm sure it's a big deal if a large part of the car has to be disassembled..
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| cooper5 (377hp) | Quote: Originally posted by andyk500 Did they replace the entire loom or just repair it? Well, I didn't ask for it, but I delivered it to the store one morning because the alarm was going off all the time, even while driving, just like you (trust me, it wasn't fun to find yourself stuck in traffic with the alarm sounding). Later that day he called me and said it was a short under the rear bumper, I believe on the right side, and it will be ready tomorrow. He didn't mention that it was a complicated operation. I think he said a wire was rubbing against something and the insulation was worn out. But it literally seems like we have the same problem.
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| moreensby (727hp) | Quote: Posted by andyk500 Still under warranty so no issues, but the dealer mentioned that BMW might choose to give me a new car? Does this seem a bit exaggerated to you? and your problem with that would be? take the new car and run!
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| summer04 (742hp) | Quote: Originally posted by EV0LVE and your problem with this would be? take the new car and run! Without alarm, I suppose.
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| 10011985 (644hp) | I was informed today that BMW approved repairs rather than an exchange. So the dealer informed me that they would need the car for another 2 weeks while they did the wiring harness replacement work..
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| scrabble1 (151hp) | I have just been informed that my car is ready for collection after the part arrived from Germany yesterday afternoon, so they obviously didn't replace the wiring harness but fixed something that sounds like that -this. Anyway, I'm just happy to have my car back.
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| emily6 (313hp) | Super d'entendre Andyk500!
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| ladies (977hp) | I got my car back this afternoon, everything seems OK. So nice to be back in my own car, I had a 320d M sport on loan, very nice but no F10. Fingers crossed it's over now and my remaining 20 months of ownership are now going smoothly..
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| 150588 (973hp) | I had a problem with my 15 month old F10 about 2 months ago where the alarm was continuously ringing while I was driving (very embarrassing when the dealership is 30 miles away in Cardiff city centre). The dealer first removed the fishfinder so I could continue driving, then replaced it a few days later. Last week the same thing happened, they took the fishfinder apart again and on Monday I took it back so they could get to the bottom of it and fix it. I received a call from the dealer this afternoon saying they had finally found the fault, a break in the main wiring harness where it passes through one of the body bulkheads....the problem is that to fix it they will have to replace the entire loom, so they are looking at a major job which I am told will cost thousands of dollars. So they called BMW for advice on what to do next, we are now waiting for BMW's response in the morning........
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| Mr.Guang F10 528i (619hp) | I had the same problem with mine, it was a short circuit under the rear bumper. Guarantee.
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| 300981 (421hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Touring I had the same problem with mine, it was a short under the rear bumper. Guarantee. Did they replace the complete loom or did they just repair it?
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| pink90 (38hp) | I hope you are still under warranty...
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| pic (130hp) | Still under warranty, so no issues, but the dealer mentioned that BMW might choose to give me a new car? It seemed a bit exaggerated?
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| mrrrkva (47hp) | Probably so they can find out how such a defect escaped quality control in production. Also, I'm sure it's a big deal if a large part of the car has to be disassembled..
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| 4454708 (498hp) | Quote: Originally posted by andyk500 Did they replace the entire loom or just repair it? Well, I didn't ask for it, but I delivered it to the store one morning because the alarm was going off all the time, even while driving, just like you (trust me, it wasn't fun to find yourself stuck in traffic with the alarm sounding). Later that day he called me and said it was a short under the rear bumper, I believe on the right side, and it will be ready tomorrow. He didn't mention that it was a complicated operation. I think he said a wire was rubbing against something and the insulation was worn out. But it literally seems like we have the same problem.
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| sonnyboy (71hp) | Quote: Posted by andyk500 Still under warranty so no issues, but the dealer mentioned that BMW might choose to give me a new car? Does this seem a bit exaggerated to you? and your problem with that would be? take the new car and run!
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| blake13 (371hp) | Quote: Originally posted by EV0LVE and would your problem be? take the new car and run! Without alarm, I suppose.
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| 090686 (406hp) | I was informed today that BMW approved repairs rather than an exchange. So the dealer informed me that they would need the car for another 2 weeks while they did the wiring harness replacement work..
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| 12051983 (572hp) | I have just been informed that my car is ready for collection after the part arrived from Germany yesterday afternoon, so they obviously didn't replace the wiring harness but fixed something that sounds like that -this. Anyway, I'm just happy to have my car back.
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| DrivenByE30 (324hp) | Super d'entendre Andyk500!
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| 170591 (232hp) | I got my car back this afternoon, everything seems OK. So nice to be back in my own car, I had a 320d M sport on loan, very nice but no F10. Fingers crossed it's over now and my remaining 20 months of ownership are now going smoothly..
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| 241988 (859hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BigP535 I'm not a recommendation, but it's strange that there is a perception that with 528 you are a cheapskate for the same reasoning for these British guys dumping the 520d not to be not labeled as such. A 5 is by no means cheap regardless of the model, at least for me anyway. I haven't tested a 528 but I came from a 335 so I wanted to have the same driving experience so I opted for the 535. Totally aged. A 5 is a 5, and no matter which 5 you have, there will always be someone who has a newer, more powerful one. No one on the street would blame you for driving a 528 - and anyone on this forum who would do so must have much bigger problems that we should pity..
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| rabbit11 (147hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BigP535 I'm not a recommendation but it's strange that there is a perception that with 528 you are a cheapskate for the same reasoning so these British guys dumping the 520d are not not labeled as such. A 5 is by no means cheap regardless of the model, at least for me anyway. I haven't tested a 528 but I came from a 335 so I wanted to have the same driving experience so I opted for the 535. Totally aged. A 5 is a 5, and no matter which 5 you have, there will always be someone who has a newer, more powerful one. No one on the street would blame you for driving a 528 - and anyone on this forum who would do so must have much bigger problems that we should pity..
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| snowman3 (729hp) | I have a 528i 3.0l (258 hp) from 2010. Is it possible to upgrade to the 530i 3.0l (272 hp)? What are the differences between these engines?
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| 28091995 (525hp) | If you have money...it's possible!
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| 0409 (669hp) | Yes, you can swap the 528 for a 530 for the upgrade
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| jennifer8 (478hp) | Quote: Originally posted by monogramus I have a 2010 528i 3.0l (258 hp). Is it possible to upgrade to the 530i 3.0l (272 hp)? What are the differences between these engines? I would say this is doubtful since they are also two different chassis and therefore engine computers and such. Your best bet is to look into aftermarket performance mods or chip programming for more power..
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| 666666q (890hp) | Where are you located?
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| rocky1234 (675hp) | I have a 528i 3.0l (258 hp) from 2010. Is it possible to upgrade to the 530i 3.0l (272 hp)? What are the differences between these engines?
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| rockin1 (700hp) | If you have money...it's possible!
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| 180390 (268hp) | Yes, you can swap the 528 for a 530 for the upgrade
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| 2balls (993hp) | Quote: Originally posted by monogramus I have a 2010 528i 3.0l (258 hp). Is it possible to upgrade to the 530i 3.0l (272 hp)? What are the differences between these engines? I would say this is doubtful since they are also two different chassis and therefore engine computers and such. Your best bet is to look into aftermarket performance mods or chip programming for more power..
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| qazwsx13 (831hp) | Where are you located?
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| east (651hp) | I have a 2012 535 (9/2011 version) and I took it in for service today and was given a 2012 528 (no sport package, 17 wheels). The first thing I noticed (besides being noticeably slower) was that the steering seems a bit tighter than my 535, the standard steering wheel also seems to be a bit thicker (which I prefer) There also had some definitive changes to the iDrive software (like how it measures oil level, which is vastly superior) Any thoughts, opinions? THANKS
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| joesph1 (408hp) | I have a 2012 535 (9/2011 version) and I took it in for service today and was given a 2012 528 (no sport package, 17 wheels). The first thing I noticed (besides being noticeably slower) was that the steering seems a bit tighter than my 535, the standard steering wheel also seems to be a bit thicker (which I prefer) There also had some definitive changes to the iDrive software (like how it measures oil level, which is vastly superior) Any thoughts, opinions? THANKS
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| yoruba (723hp) | I looked for help on the forum, but without success... When I use my iPhone 4 (iOS 5.1) connected via USB cable in the armrest and play songs, sometimes the wrong cover is displayed on the navigation screen. . It seems like it matches the cover of a previously played song? Does anyone know why or have a solution? The car is a 530d xDr, MY2012, built in November 2011. Thanks!
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| sidekick08 (485hp) | The same thing happened to me as well. It will also get stuck on the previous song title and artist/album name. I found that unplugging the iPhone and plugging it back in fixes the problem. I'm using the clip-on media stand, this also happens with the standard white Apple cable plugged into the armrest USB port..
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| ionel23 (571hp) | I have this problem when I use the USB cable and when I use the media adapter the car loses connection with the phone several times. I went to the dealership and they couldn't find anything. Even though they reproduced the problem. It pisses me off!
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| katarzyna (273hp) | throw the apple in the trash and buy an Android phone....
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| bar (68hp) | Today I also noticed that it was stuck with bad cover art and bad track/title... very annoying. Maybe replacing the iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy S3 will solve the problem? :
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| 1q2w3easd (470hp) | Quote: Posted by mroll320 throw the apple in the trash and buy an Android phone... Yeah sure, the COPY is ALWAYS better than the original.
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| destin1 (717hp) | I looked for help on the forum, but without success... When I use my iPhone 4 (iOS 5.1) connected via USB cable in the armrest and play songs, sometimes the wrong cover is displayed on the navigation screen. . It seems like it matches the cover of a previously played song? Does anyone know why or have a solution? The car is a 530d xDr, MY2012, built in November 2011. Thanks!
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| trumanwoll (300hp) | The same thing happened to me as well. It will also get stuck on the previous song title and artist/album name. I found that unplugging the iPhone and plugging it back in fixes the problem. I'm using the clip-on media stand, this also happens with the standard white Apple cable plugged into the armrest USB port..
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| produce1 (864hp) | I have this problem when I use the USB cable and when I use the media adapter the car loses connection with the phone several times. I went to the dealership and they couldn't find anything. Even though they reproduced the problem. It pisses me off!
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| shannara (853hp) | throw the apple in the trash and buy an Android phone....
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| ruffryder (856hp) | Today I also noticed that it was stuck with bad cover art and bad track/title... very annoying. Maybe replacing the iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy S3 will solve the problem? :
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| coolwhip (37hp) | Quote: Posted by mroll320 throw the apple in the trash and buy an Android phone... Yeah sure, the COPY is ALWAYS better than the original.
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| 2ps5wLc4xQ (650hp) | Testing of the F82 M4 is underway! http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719831 In case you missed it on the homepage or on F30POST.
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| anwar (97hp) | I just added the first ever video of the M4 coupe in action: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=720010
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| duffy (667hp) | Testing of the F82 M4 is underway! http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719831 In case you missed it on the homepage or on F30POST.
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| lance123 (202hp) | I just added the first ever video of the M4 coupe in action: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=720010
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| hit (315hp) | I have a new 2012 535. I hope BMW changes this. I personally don't like the feeling and I'm SURE it causes excessive wear on the engine components. I would REALLY prefer it to be disabled by default. How do you feel? Joseph
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| froggies1 (698hp) | I have a 2011 model so it's not something I have to deal with, but I thought I read somewhere that you can turn it off permanently?
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| jackjill (434hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NYCE90DRIVER I have a new 2012 535. I hope BMW changes that. I personally don't like the feeling and I'm SURE it causes excessive wear on the engine components. I would REALLY prefer it to be disabled by default. How do you feel? Joseph, I was also curious about this. It just doesn't seem natural for a normal combustion engine to start and stop all the time. What about stop and go traffic for 1 hour30 ??
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| richard10 (357hp) | Quote: Posted by umpqua5 I have a 2011 so it's not something I have to deal with, but I thought I read somewhere that you can turn it off permanently? It's enabled by default and you have to manually disable it every time... Annoying. A software update could easily change that.
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| healthy1 (7hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NYCE90DRIVER It's enabled by default and you have to manually disable it every time... Annoying. Before long, if some individuals/groups have their way, it will become mandatory and it will be somehow impossible and/or illegal to disable it..
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| pretzel (365hp) | Quote: Originally posted by listerone Before long, if some individuals/groups have their way, it will be mandatory and it will be somehow impossible and/or illegal to disable it. But for now, it's not illegal... I assume you also believe that the media is controlled by liberals and that FOX NEWS is fair and balanced. In the meantime, I would still like some opinions on this specific issue...perhaps we can arrange to petition BMW NA. I would appreciate a serious response to the specific issue posted... if possible in this forum. Thanks in advance, Joseph
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| RACHEL (136hp) | Well, Listerone makes a very serious point. Once the government has mastered this concept, it may very well decide that automakers must have this option and that it must always be enabled. I think you owe Listerone a serious apology. He did not deserve to be attacked for his political views. Quote: Posted by NYCE90DRIVER Quote: Posted by listerone Before long, if some individuals/groups have their way, it will be mandatory and it will somehow be impossible and/or illegal to disable it. But for now, it's not illegal... I assume you also believe that the media is controlled by liberals and that FOX NEWS is fair and balanced. In the meantime, I would still like some opinions on this specific issue...perhaps we can arrange to petition BMW NA. I would appreciate a serious response to the specific issue posted... if possible in this forum. Thanks in advance, Joseph
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| 123123r (77hp) | Quote: Posted by BMWrules7 Well, Listerone makes a very serious point. Once the government has mastered this concept, it may very well decide that automakers must have this option and that it must always be enabled. I think you owe Listerone a serious apology. He did not deserve to be attacked for his political views. Who are you... The Miss Manners of the F10 Forum? I don't owe anyone an apology. His political views are irrelevant and have no place here. I asked about a specific issue and THIS is what should have been addressed. BMW is the only one doing this at present and no government has mandated it. I'm tired of people bringing politics into everything. There are right and wrong ways to be green... and this is (at least with today's technology) a BAD way... and BMW needs to know it..
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| napster1 (989hp) | I don't think it's a matter of politics, but rather BMW (and other manufacturers) trying to be more efficient. Start-Stop technology is actually widely used in hybrid vehicles, so it's not new to the industry. It could be argued that this could eventually be required by law, but what will actually be required are thresholds for effectiveness. I guess it's up to the manufacturer to decide how to achieve these levels. Not long ago in Munich I had a 320d 2011 which had start-stop (and in a manual at that). It was a little weird at first, but once I got used to it, it didn't really bother me anymore. And this vehicle got the equivalent of 49 mpg with 3 adults in the car, so whatever technology is used must deliver results, otherwise it wouldn't add complexity. When it comes to engine components, the specifics involved in start/stop are designed for higher duty cycle operation. The starter, solenoids and associated mechanical assemblies are considerably more robust than in normal starter applications. So to answer your question, they didn't just add this feature to a stock car. The component has been redesigned to support the load.
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| nemex12 (662hp) | EPA ratings are established using best possible scenarios. In order to benefit from certain breaks or not receive fines for energy guzzlers, BMW uses this parameter. Auto stop/start and even comfort mode should be the first thing that comes on. If you change this setting, the government will not come after you. But if BMW has Sport+ as the first setting, the EPA would see worse MPG and the car would get other rates (is this part of CAFE or something??). This is especially beneficial for all New York taxi drivers who drive BMWs with this feature. Now they don't need to stop/start their car manually :-) Now if I could just find a taxi driver driving a new F10!! Something like this...
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| freemoney (723hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NYCE90DRIVER But as of now, it's not illegal... I assume you also believe that the media is controlled by liberals and that FOX NEWS is fair and balanced. In the meantime, I would still like some opinions on this specific question. ..maybe we can arrange to petition BMW NA. I would appreciate a serious response to the specific issue posted... if possible in this forum. Thanks in advance, Joseph Joseph, The reason you have Stop Start is because BMW (along with all other manufacturers) is forced to adopt higher fuel economy. Because BMW still strives to be a high-performance brand, it has the enormous task of having to design for power, while also achieving higher and higher mileage figures. This is the very reason for their migration to turbocharging, adopting more gear ratios for transmissions, direct injection and now start/stop. Although someone may come up with a workaround to override Stop Start, it won't come from BMW. They have to and will probably be seen on every car for the next few years. I agree that it must be a pain to overcome this every time and I wonder if it has a long term effect on the engine. Knowing BMW, they probably did their homework on this and therefore at least installed a more robust starter..
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| 22071991 (281hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ghueser Joseph, The reason you have Stop Start is because BMW (along with every other manufacturer) is forced to adopt higher fuel economy. Because BMW still strives to be a high-performance brand, it has the enormous task of having to design for power, while also achieving higher and higher mileage figures. This is the very reason for their migration to turbocharging, adopting more gear ratios for transmissions, direct injection and now start/stop. Although someone may come up with a workaround to override Stop Start, it won't come from BMW. They have to and will probably be seen on every car for the next few years. I agree that it must be a pain to overcome this every time and I wonder if it has a long term effect on the engine. Knowing BMW, they probably did their homework on this and therefore at least installed a more robust starter. Okay...but those of us who despise this feature should have a voice. I've done some research online and have yet to find ONE owner who is in favor of it. BMW MUST know this.
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| GmoBmw (348hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NYCE90DRIVER I have searched the internet and have yet to find ONE owner who is in favor of this. BMW MUST know this. Well, I wouldn't call it scientific research on an internet forum. That's like saying I went to a BMW GTG enthusiast and didn't find a single person who liked the stock ride height..
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| intuition (707hp) | Quote: Posted by vdubturbo Well, I wouldn't call an internet forum search scientific. That's like saying I went to a BMW GTG enthusiast and didn't find a single person who liked the stock ride height. I did not say that my research was scientific, nor should it be. WHAT don't you understand? THOSE WHO POSSESS THIS CHARACTERISTIC DO NOT SEEM TO LIKE OR APPROVE IT. Including 2 owners and 1 SA that I personally spoke with while waiting in the service department at Hassel BMW in Freeport. Is it clear enough ?
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| 10061981 (469hp) | It's all about CAFE standards. How this technology affects the long-term durability of the car is of no concern to BMW. They realize their cars require a lot of maintenance and people are willing to drink the Kool Aid. As long as it works within the warranty period, that's all they care about. They want you to buy a new car every few years, there is no money for a manufacturer or dealer of older high mileage cars..
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| puckett (623hp) | I think you should be happy to be able to turn it off.
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| dustin123 (709hp) | Quote: Originally posted by gatoman39 How this technology affects the long-term durability of the car is of no concern to BMW. Oh, I don't agree with that at all. If a brand develops a reputation for unreliability beyond a below-average threshold (say 50,000 miles as implied by the warranty versus 100,000), then vehicle residual values drop. Declining residual values make leasing less attractive to new BMW buyers because lease values are determined in part on the estimated residual value. And so the cycle begins. Last time I checked, people were still buying used BMWs. Per my statement above, the vehicle's affected systems have been redesigned to account for the higher duty cycle (read: wear and tear). Quote: Originally posted by NYCE90DRIVER I didn't say my research was scientific nor did it need to be. WHAT don't you understand? THOSE WHO POSSESS THIS CHARACTERISTIC DO NOT SEEM TO LIKE OR APPROVE IT. Including 2 owners and 1 SA that I personally spoke with while waiting in the service department at Hassel BMW in Freeport. Is it clear enough? Wow, calm down. I UNDERSTAND you perfectly. And I understand that you make a half-thought-out statement and want to convey it to BMW as fact. Go ahead and call them and say you don't like it. There's nothing wrong with that. And if you want to start a petition, I wish you luck. This is also a good method. But making a bold statement like THOSE WHO HAVE THE FUNCTION DON'T SEEM TO LIKE OR APPROVE IT when you've only spoken to 3 people doesn't hold water for me.
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| 199106 (867hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NYCE90DRIVER BMW is the only one doing this right now and it has not been mandated by any government. I agree with your assessment of the auto start/stop feature, but your conclusion above, in my opinion, is probably wrong. Have you noticed the increase in gas mileage on the '12 compared to the '11 535? I mean, it's the same engine! So what's going on? Probably due to some perceived gas savings from adding the auto start/stop feature. I assume that if BMW allows the driver to permanently disable the auto start/stop feature, they would not, under EPA (the government) rules, be allowed to advertise this MPG increase. The reason I come to this conclusion is that the M3 also recently installed an auto start/stop feature. There was, however, no increase in claimed MPG compared to previous years' models equipped with the same engine. I think this is the case because, in the M3, the feature can be permanently disabled by the driver. I feel the same way as you about the effects of this feature on engine wear and would enthusiastically ask BMW to allow the driver to permanently disable it. But you need to be prepared for what you face.
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| charger21 (671hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NYCE90DRIVER Okay...but those of us who despise this feature should have a voice. I've done some research online and have yet to find ONE owner who is in favor of it. BMW MUST know this. Okay, you should have a voice and it would be worth sending a note to BMW about this. I remember seeing one of the Top Gear episodes where they were driving the Porcshe Panamera. There was Stop Start and Hammond thought it was ridiculous. I think everyone on this forum agrees with this sentiment..
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| watsup (46hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ghueser Okay, you should have a voice and it would be worth your while to send a note to BMW about this. I remember seeing one of the Top Gear episodes where they were driving the Porcshe Panamera. There was Stop Start and Hammond thought it was ridiculous. I think everyone on this forum agrees with this sentiment. I assumed that any self-respecting enthusiast would also agree... but judging by some argumentative and contrary responses, maybe not..
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