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| piglet2 (78hp) | Quote: Originally written by EL Jeffe 5 In my opinion, I don't like it. No back pressure, probably some power lost too. Excuse me. Thank you for your opinion
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| 15121512 (574hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 I'll hopefully get the GTS this spring, I'm very excited! IMPRESSIVE! Quote: Originally written by EL Jeffe 5 In my opinion, I don't like it. No back pressure, probably some power lost too. I'm sorry for what El Jeffe 5 said. Have you noticed a loss of back pressure???
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| viktori (970hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 I'll hopefully get the GTS this spring, I'm very excited! IMPRESSIVE! Quote: Originally written by EL Jeffe 5 In my opinion, I don't like it. No back pressure, probably some power lost too. I'm sorry for what El Jeffe 5 said. Have you noticed a loss of back pressure? Honestly, no
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| england2 (504hp) | Quote: Originally written by Arko528. I straight piped my 528xi essentially for two reasons: personal curiosity and simply because of the 528 owners on this forum! I know it's not the best sounding vehicle in the world and according to some people it sounds like a fart box, but I ask you to be generous! If you don't like the sound, I understand, but there's no reason to post negative comments. Thank you and I hope you enjoy the short video! I think it sounds amazing. Maybe I'm biased because I also have a 528 xDrive, lol. I would like to have this done to my car now. How much did that cost you? I need to know what a fair price is when I start calling local stores
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| pompey1 (384hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TJBentley Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 I straight-piped my 528xi essentially for two reasons: personal curiosity and simply because of the 528 owners on this forum! I know it's not the best sounding vehicle in the world and according to some people it sounds like a fart box, but I ask you to be generous! If you don't like the sound, I understand, but there's no reason to post negative comments. Thank you and I hope you enjoy the short video! I think it sounds amazing. Maybe I'm biased because I also have a 528 xDrive, lol. I would like to have this done to my car now. How much did that cost you? I need to know what a fair price is when I start calling around the local stores. Straight Pipe (Muffler/Resonator) = $100 ER Downpipes (I highly recommend it).)= 400-500
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| twokids2 (680hp) | Quote: Originally written by Arko528. Straight pipe (muffler/resonator) = $100 ER downpipes (highly recommend) = 400-500. Arko528, do you smell gas in your car from your downspouts??
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| 31011996 (372hp) | I straight piped my 528xi essentially for two reasons: personal curiosity and simply because of the 528 owners on this forum! I know it's not the best sounding vehicle in the world and according to some people it sounds like a fart box, but I ask you to be generous! If you don't like the sound, I understand, but there's no reason to post negative comments. Thank you and I hope you enjoy the short video!
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| david.lage (791hp) | I like it. Better than I thought!
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| patpat (600hp) | Quote: Originally written by Dannyrc24. I like it. Better than I thought! Thanks!!
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| saya123 (749hp) | Holy shit! Sounds great! Very beefy!
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| homer (259hp) | Oh nice! I cringed before the video started because you really made it sound like it was bad and I've learned to accept it for what it was, but it sounds like it has balls! a bit of crackling, crackling and popping!
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| 19051986 (868hp) | All that matters is whether you like it. Your MPG will go down.
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| collin12 (514hp) | Quote: Originally written by hawkjr1 All that matters is whether you like it. Your MPG will go down. I went from 22 mpg to 19-20, nothing too major
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| Davinhci (980hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ARC550 Holy shit! Sounds great! Very beefy! Thank you very much! I personally like it, but I'm hoping to get an exhaust installed soon
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| sparkie (891hp) | Quote: Originally written by Arko528 Thank you! I personally like it, but I'm hoping to get an exhaust installed soon because of the noise or because you were traveling with an exhaust anyway?
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| texastech (601hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 Thank you! Personally I like it but I'm hoping to get an exhaust fitted soon, because of the noise or because you wanted to get an exhaust anyway? I've always wanted to get the GTS GTHAUS exhaust. I like how it looks with the quad construction and carbon fiber diffuser
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| qayxsw (663hp) | Maybe there will be more videos about it soon!!
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| sunshine15 (432hp) | I'm very shocked, it actually sounds pretty good.
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| langley (648hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 I've always wanted to get the GTS GTHAUS exhaust. I like how it looks with the quad setup and carbon fiber diffuser. I'll definitely try it out since I just got mine http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1228770
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| Arnold550i (181hp) | Quote: Originally posted by gatorfast I'm very shocked, it actually sounds pretty good. Thank you means a lot to me and I definitely agree!
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| k12345678 (294hp) | In my opinion, I don't like it. No back pressure, probably some power lost too. Excuse me
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| tania (935hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 I've always wanted to get the GTS GTHAUS exhaust. I like how it looks with the quad setup and carbon fiber diffuser. I'll definitely try it out as I just got mine http:// f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1228770 I'll hopefully get the GTS this spring and I'm extremely excited!
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| waswas1 (195hp) | Quote: Originally written by EL Jeffe 5 In my opinion, I don't like it. No back pressure, probably some power lost too. Excuse me. Thank you for your opinion
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| [email protected] (86hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 I'll hopefully get the GTS this spring, I'm very excited! IMPRESSIVE! Quote: Originally written by EL Jeffe 5 In my opinion, I don't like it. No back pressure, probably some power lost too. I'm sorry for what El Jeffe 5 said. Have you noticed a loss of back pressure???
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| grace07 (428hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 I'll hopefully get the GTS this spring, I'm very excited! IMPRESSIVE! Quote: Originally written by EL Jeffe 5 In my opinion, I don't like it. No back pressure, probably some power lost too. I'm sorry for what El Jeffe 5 said. Have you noticed a loss of back pressure? Honestly, no
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| Dennisg51 (80hp) | Quote: Originally written by Arko528. I straight piped my 528xi essentially for two reasons: personal curiosity and simply because of the 528 owners on this forum! I know it's not the best sounding vehicle in the world and according to some people it sounds like a fart box, but I ask you to be generous! If you don't like the sound, I understand, but there's no reason to post negative comments. Thank you and I hope you enjoy the short video! I think it sounds amazing. Maybe I'm biased because I also have a 528 xDrive, lol. I would like to have this done to my car now. How much did that cost you? I need to know what a fair price is when I start calling local stores
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| schach (11hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TJBentley Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 I straight-piped my 528xi essentially for two reasons: personal curiosity and simply because of the 528 owners on this forum! I know it's not the best sounding vehicle in the world and according to some people it sounds like a fart box, but I ask you to be generous! If you don't like the sound, I understand, but there's no reason to post negative comments. Thank you and I hope you enjoy the short video! I think it sounds amazing. Maybe I'm biased because I also have a 528 xDrive, lol. I would like to have this done to my car now. How much did that cost you? I need to know what a fair price is when I start calling around the local stores. Straight Pipe (Muffler/Resonator) = $100 ER Downpipes (I highly recommend it).)= 400-500
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| homegrown (770hp) | Quote: Originally written by Arko528. Straight pipe (muffler/resonator) = $100 ER downpipes (highly recommend) = 400-500. Arko528, do you smell gas in your car from your downspouts??
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| 210676 (873hp) | Does anyone know what the deal is with Realoem Dotcom? Seems like there are hardly any parts prices for F10 parts. Am I missing something? Is the model still too new for them to have the prices???
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| samiblu91 (800hp) | Whenever Realoem doesn't have pricing, I copy and paste the part number into getbmwparts.com - they usually have really good prices on OEM parts.
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| metro2033 (447hp) | Ahhh yes, I forgot about her! Thanks, I'll remember that! It just seems strange to me that Realoem's prices are so sparse. Everything E90 is priced there, I'm not sure why the F10 parts don't get any attention.
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| artemblya (863hp) | I also tend to use Realoem just to get part numbers.
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| RAMF10 (648hp) | Realoem usually has dealer prices for the parts, but for some reason they don't exist for the F10. When searching for E60 parts, the dealer always showed the MSRP retail price for the parts, but it was very rare that they didn't have the price. I'm not sure why F10 prices aren't listed.
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| MFG (707hp) | Does anyone know what the deal is with Realoem Dotcom? Seems like there are hardly any parts prices for F10 parts. Am I missing something? Is the model still too new for them to have the prices???
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| bailey6 (769hp) | Whenever Realoem doesn't have pricing, I copy and paste the part number into getbmwparts.com - they usually have really good prices on OEM parts.
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| rico123 (702hp) | Ahhh yes, I forgot about her! Thanks, I'll remember that! It just seems strange to me that Realoem's prices are so sparse. Everything E90 is priced there, I'm not sure why the F10 parts don't get any attention.
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| vasya (363hp) | I also tend to use Realoem just to get part numbers.
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| afadoo (976hp) | Realoem usually has dealer prices for the parts, but for some reason they don't exist for the F10. When searching for E60 parts, the dealer always showed the MSRP retail price for the parts, but it was very rare that they didn't have the price. I'm not sure why F10 prices aren't listed.
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| myspace93 (263hp) | WOW...just WOW! I spent all day waxing and polishing them for this weekend and it's snowing pretty damn hard! So I ended up driving the truck to work. LOL! I miss Cali!
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| Titanium3er (604hp) | I feel you, man! This weather sucks!
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| claude1225us (110hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg WOW...just WOW! I spent all day waxing and polishing them for this weekend and it's snowing pretty damn hard! So I ended up driving the truck to work. LOL! I miss Cali! Not!!! We have become a 3rd world country... No water (Moonbeam's new campaign, Brown is the new green!), electricity shortages, high prices for EVERYTHING, idiotic gummy bears... And of course our unique 4 seasons... Summer , fire, rain and mudslides.
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| 547896321 (905hp) | Man, that stinks. Lyle Lovett has a great song. True, you're not from Texas, but Texas still wants you. It's perfect here at the moment. Of course, it will be much more pleasant there in July, August and September.
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| one1two2 (605hp) | I'm fine, this is SoCal. After growing up in Denver, it's kind of nice not having to shovel anymore.
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| affection (434hp) | From this afternoon...just CRAZY!
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| 150280 (762hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg From this afternoon...just CRAZY! Wow, that's beautiful. Of course, 75°C and partly cloudy wasn't so bad here today. I have a buddy in Cinci who said he cut grass today in 38 degree weather.
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| july2801! (348hp) | Come to Michigan, buddy
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| 29101996 (627hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Arko528. Come to Michigan, buddy. Didn't you get it worse or did you miss it???
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| courtney (92hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 Come to Michigan, buddy Didn't you have it worse, or did you miss it? Worse
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| steelers09 (568hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg From this afternoon...just CRAZY! Nice photo!
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| grounded (876hp) | 13°Today it is 55°F here (Norway) and I have resumed summers.
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| paolo (874hp) | Okay, fine, I'll play - two from yesterday
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| benim10 (21hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg WOW...just WOW! I spent all day waxing and polishing them for this weekend and it's snowing pretty damn hard! So I ended up driving the truck to work. LOL! I miss Cali! Whoa – you work in a prison??
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| christ (611hp) | Quote: Originally written by Boulder Bill Whoa – do you work in a prison? Haha...no! But with the barbed wire and the rotating gate it's okay, lol!
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| 3M TAPE (304hp) | Lol! Damn Daniel! Don't worry, it's almost there. Starts this weekend. I think this is the last winter storm.
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| 101201 (882hp) | TEXAS The weather is bipolar! Damn sunshine, cloudy, rain, hail, ice and snow all in one day!
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| reckless1 (947hp) | Has anyone spun the original OEM rotors or bought new ones? I haven't measured them with a micrometer yet, but I'm wondering if anyone knows a thing or two (yes, if there's still life in them, or no, they don't rotate and need to be replaced).).
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| bouiflan (723hp) | It doesn't snow in Iowa, but every day it's something different: rain, wind and cold, then you have all three at the same time. Yes, I feel your pain
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| brett4 (794hp) | I'm still not sure about the F10. On the E60, the tolerances were so tight that it was almost never worth turning the rotors; replacing them was easier and safer. Of course, the dealer will replace the rotors every time you change the pads, but that's not always the case. If they are still smooth and only have very small grooves and/or a lip on the edge, you can simply replace the pads. The dealer always prefers replacement as they charge a hefty $1,400 for a brake repair
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| hfytnrf (765hp) | Getting ready for work this morning just won't stop this year.
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| franklyn (618hp) | Are you shitting me? $1400 for a brake repair? So that's 4 new rotors, 4 new pad sets, 2 new wear sensors?
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| Caterham7 (250hp) | Meanwhile yesterday in Florida I was trying to wash my car and the sun was so hot it kept drying out the car and leaving stains lol
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| 061196 (814hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Fro826 Are you shitting me? $1400 for a brake repair? So that's 4 new rotors, 4 new pad sets, 2 new wear sensors? LOL, yes, at least. For my first 5 series they quoted me $1600 for rotors, pads and sensors. Luckily, I was just about to tell them where to store it when I was reminded that maintenance was still included - so it was free
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| Ondras (715hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 550Reasons. While I was trying to wash my car in Florida yesterday, the sun was so hot that it kept drying out the car and leaving stains. lol Nice, but who needs the suffering of all the hot women walking around scantily clad? It must be terrible in such weather. I love snow and I really enjoy skiing, so it's not a big deal for me personally, but the people around me are a little stressed, this is taking a little too long.
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| cashmere (442hp) | Holy crap. That's about $400 in parts if you get Zimmerman rotors instead of the OE rotors, probably $600-$700 if you get the OE rotors (I haven't priced all that stuff yet) ? Even if you get the OE rotors, it's still half the price to bring them in for the job. I'm amazed, dude... When I was a kid, I had a neighbor who acted as my father figure, so to speak (my parents divorced when I was 3), and he and his dad were handy handymen. I always went there when I saw an open hood or a vehicle on a jack. To this day, I credit them (both deceased) with encouraging my love of wrench turning.
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| qwert789 (961hp) | At least it's not the size of hail that hit parts of Dallas yesterday. You can easily remove snow, but such hail will destroy your car!
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| 161087 (319hp) | I get it, I felt pretty much the same way. I rebuilt my first engine with my friend's dad when I was 9 and have never looked back. Since then I have been able to do everything from the suspension to the brakes to the transmission and clutches. I did all the maintenance work on the E60s I had. These are slightly complicated cars compared to the 70's cars I worked on as a kid, but they're still just cars. Bolts, screws and nuts hold them together, that's all. Admittedly, BMW had the foresight to frustrate you with a wide selection of Torx bits and Torx screws, oh yeah, and Allen heads - so invest in sets if you don't already have them
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| Njaza (173hp) | WOW...just WOW! I spent all day waxing and polishing them for this weekend and it's snowing pretty damn hard! So I ended up driving the truck to work. LOL! I miss Cali!
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| thor (609hp) | I haven't gone as far as rebuilding an engine yet, but boy does that sound like fun (not that I'd want to be able to). Oddly enough, when the F10 came out and I researched the most common problems, I was a little happy to see that I would probably have to replace the HPFP one day. I thought it was cute, what a new thing to get excited about! Lol!
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| 060986 (599hp) | I feel you, man! This weather sucks!
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| pink32 (445hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Fro826 I haven't really gotten into rebuilding an engine, but boy does that sound like fun (not that I'd want to be in a position to have to do that). Oddly enough, when the F10 came out and I researched the most common problems, I was a little happy to see that I would probably have to replace the HPFP one day. I thought it was cute, what a new thing to get excited about! Lol! LOL, yes, but it's a PITA to get there. The previous generation N54 engine came with a 120,000 mile HPFP warranty because it failed so often. However, I'm not sure about the N55 (which we have)..
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| hotgirls (918hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg WOW...just WOW! I spent all day waxing and polishing them for this weekend and it's snowing pretty damn hard! So I ended up driving the truck to work. LOL! I miss Cali! Not!!! We have become a 3rd world country... No water (Moonbeam's new campaign, Brown is the new green!), electricity shortages, high prices for EVERYTHING, idiotic gummy bears... And of course our unique 4 seasons... Summer , fire, rain and mudslides.
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| 220680 (340hp) | Yes, I saw the N54 120K warranty and I think I saw the F10s have the same HPFP. Well, yes. They cost $4xx, which surprised me when I thought they were $1,000. The other thing that made me grin was the walnut blasting! I get to take a bunch of shit off my engine and then spray walnut shells into it? When I first heard about it I thought it was some kind of voodoo! Now I can hardly wait! WTF is wrong with me???! Thank God I need a therapist....
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| hottie27 (665hp) | Man, that stinks. Lyle Lovett has a great song. True, you're not from Texas, but Texas still wants you. It's perfect here at the moment. Of course, it will be much more pleasant there in July, August and September.
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| 12081979 (678hp) | LMAO, yes, walnut blasting is one of the few things I leave to someone with experience. Luckily, it's a fairly inexpensive service here in Southern California, about $250. This makes it cheaper than flushing the transmission in our cars (which costs around 100 euros). $300).
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| veins (368hp) | I'm fine, this is SoCal. After growing up in Denver, it's kind of nice not having to shovel anymore.
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| 7410852963 (367hp) | From what I've seen, $250 is an AWESOME price! For me, the lure of hooking up my shop vacuum to my 300 horsepower motor is just too tempting to pass up. Replacing the transmission oil is also on my wish list. I did it on my automatic E90, it's a PITA, but it was pretty cool to drop the transpony pan (this transpony had a filter built into the pan) and see how all the IF mechatronics got me -Madness stared. Ha-Ha!
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| AronL (604hp) | From this afternoon...just CRAZY!
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| 161096 (825hp) | The dealer will always rape you because of the labor costs. I've seen people here do it themselves for a lot less money. Check out the DIY articles, I believe they posted part numbers and how much.
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| Lvbnhbq (478hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg From this afternoon...just CRAZY! Wow, that's beautiful. Of course, 75°C and partly cloudy wasn't so bad here today. I have a buddy in Cinci who said he cut grass today in 38 degree weather.
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| del (892hp) | Keep in mind that our OEM front rotors are two pieces with aluminum caps and have the same unsprung weight (around 2 pounds per side). When cross-shopping for the aftermarket, it most likely won't be two parts.
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| sunfish (469hp) | Come to Michigan, buddy
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| kelly5 (48hp) | Yes, thanks Jay, a friend of mine also mentioned to me that the OEM rotors are two-piece and that this probably won't be the case with non-OEMs. 2 pounds per wheel is a fair compromise to probably save over $100 per rotor, at least for me.
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| fratz (460hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Arko528. Come to Michigan, buddy. Didn't you get it worse or did you miss it???
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| Silverfleet (318hp) | Quote: Originally written by Jayphil. Keep in mind that our OEM front rotors are two pieces with aluminum caps and have the same unsprung weight (approximately 2 pounds per side). When cross-shopping for the aftermarket, it most likely won't be two parts. Yes, I'm encountering this problem now. I noticed that no one except BMW has the two-piece design. And mine are warped or have hot spots so they jerk at high speeds and are rusted in the vents! They want almost $400 per rotor with my dealer discount! Damn, no son! I'm going to go the Zimmerman rotor route and replace the pads since the OEM pads also broke. The way I see it, why spend so much extra, and I've heard nothing but nightmare stories about the F10's front brake discs and pads warping and breaking again. Used Zimmerman/Textar on my E46 and no warping and no OEM brakes. Just my 3 cents.
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| batman24 (486hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by Arko528 Come to Michigan, buddy Didn't you have it worse, or did you miss it? Worse
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| 111297 (733hp) | Quote: Originally posted by dadysev Yes, I'm running into this problem now. I noticed that no one except BMW has the two-piece design. And mine are warped or have hot spots so they jerk at high speeds and are rusted in the vents! They want almost $400 per rotor with my dealer discount! Damn, no son! I'm going to go the Zimmerman rotor route and replace the pads since the OEM pads also broke. The way I see it, why spend so much extra, and I've heard nothing but nightmare stories about the F10's front brake discs and pads warping and breaking again. Used Zimmerman/Textar on my E46 and no warping and no OEM brakes. Just my 3 cents. Zimmerman are quality parts, not OEM parts, but just as good (maybe better). On my previous E60 I used R1 Concept brake rotors (I liked the drilled or slotted look) and Hawk HPS brake pads. The only thing about the Hawk pads was that the initial bite was less, but the stopping power was much better, plus they produced a lot less dust than the OEM pads. Additionally, the Hawks are equipped with sensors and the front and rear sets cost around $140. That was a done deal for me. My F10 will definitely get Hawks, SS brake lines and slotted brake rotors.
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| daniel83 (878hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg From this afternoon...just CRAZY! Nice photo!
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| catrina1 (793hp) | Quote: Originally posted by PJinCA Quote: Originally posted by dadysev Yes, I'm running into this problem now. I noticed that no one except BMW has the two-piece design. And mine are warped or have hot spots so they jerk at high speeds and are rusted in the vents! They want almost $400 per rotor with my dealer discount! Damn, no son! I'm going to go the Zimmerman rotor route and replace the pads since the OEM pads also broke. The way I see it, why spend so much extra, and I've heard nothing but nightmare stories about the F10's front brake discs and pads warping and breaking again. Used Zimmerman/Textar on my E46 and no warping and no OEM brakes. Just my 3 cents. Zimmerman are quality parts, not OEM parts, but just as good (maybe better). On my previous E60 I used R1 Concept brake rotors (I liked the drilled or slotted look) and Hawk HPS brake pads. The only thing about the Hawk pads was that the initial bite was less, but the stopping power was much better, plus they produced a lot less dust than the OEM pads. Additionally, the Hawks are equipped with sensors and the front and rear sets cost around $140. That was a done deal for me. My F10 will definitely get Hawks, SS brake lines and slotted brake rotors. If you are hawks please post. I'm curious to see how they feel compared to the OEM on the F10. I just can't pass up the first bite. Tried it on my old E46. But cleaning brake dust is very important to me at my age
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| jenya (497hp) | 13°Today it is 55°F here (Norway) and I have resumed summers.
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| Zmeu (417hp) | I've only heard good things about Hawk's!
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| aiden08 (851hp) | Okay, fine, I'll play - two from yesterday
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| crusaders1 (325hp) | BMW's warranty is still running and replacement is not necessary in the foreseeable future. On all my other cars I do all the work on the brakes, suspension, etc. I can tell you I always get my rotors turned for $5 each, total $20, not bad, worth every penny.
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| 25041981 (33hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg WOW...just WOW! I spent all day waxing and polishing them for this weekend and it's snowing pretty damn hard! So I ended up driving the truck to work. LOL! I miss Cali! Whoa – you work in a prison??
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| TurboFrank (210hp) | Thanks for all the contributions, guys. I have Zimmermans on my M3 with OEM pads for non-track/AX and PF08 for track/AX and they have worked great so far. I have a friend with a track prepped E36 M3 who showed me some Zimmermans that came off his car after about 12 days on the track and several AXs and they were in great condition. I really like the OEM pads, so I think I tend to feel like Dadysev, I don't know if I don't want that initial bite. I put the best pads Autozone has to offer on my truck and they are terrible. The initial bite that the OEMs had was completely gone. However, I haven't replaced or rotated the truck's rotors since I only drive it about 5,000 a year, so that could be the cause of the poor performance. I've always wanted to try out for the Hawks, so I don't know what I'll do yet.
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| powerranger (570hp) | Quote: Originally written by Boulder Bill Whoa – do you work in a prison? Haha...no! But with the barbed wire and the rotating gate it's okay, lol!
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| sveta-kisil (4hp) | Has anyone spun the original OEM rotors or bought new ones? I haven't measured them with a micrometer yet, but I'm wondering if anyone knows a thing or two (yes, if there's still life in them, or no, they don't rotate and need to be replaced).).
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| delicia (750hp) | Lol! Damn Daniel! Don't worry, it's almost there. Starts this weekend. I think this is the last winter storm.
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| blowme (254hp) | I'm still not sure about the F10. On the E60, the tolerances were so tight that it was almost never worth turning the rotors; replacing them was easier and safer. Of course, the dealer will replace the rotors every time you change the pads, but that's not always the case. If they are still smooth and only have very small grooves and/or a lip on the edge, you can simply replace the pads. The dealer always prefers replacement as they charge a hefty $1,400 for a brake repair
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| anna14 (702hp) | TEXAS The weather is bipolar! Damn sunshine, cloudy, rain, hail, ice and snow all in one day!
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| 07091995 (867hp) | Are you shitting me? $1400 for a brake repair? So that's 4 new rotors, 4 new pad sets, 2 new wear sensors?
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| ravi123 (824hp) | It doesn't snow in Iowa, but every day it's something different: rain, wind and cold, then you have all three at the same time. Yes, I feel your pain
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| taylor06 (302hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Fro826 Are you shitting me? $1400 for a brake repair? So that's 4 new rotors, 4 new pad sets, 2 new wear sensors? LOL, yes, at least. For my first 5 series they quoted me $1600 for rotors, pads and sensors. Luckily, I was just about to tell them where to store it when I was reminded that maintenance was still included - so it was free
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| footballer (185hp) | Getting ready for work this morning just won't stop this year.
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| sub-zero (600hp) | Holy crap. That's about $400 in parts if you get Zimmerman rotors instead of the OE rotors, probably $600-$700 if you get the OE rotors (I haven't priced all that stuff yet) ? Even if you get the OE rotors, it's still half the price to bring them in for the job. I'm amazed, dude... When I was a kid, I had a neighbor who acted as my father figure, so to speak (my parents divorced when I was 3), and he and his dad were handy handymen. I always went there when I saw an open hood or a vehicle on a jack. To this day, I credit them (both deceased) with encouraging my love of wrench turning.
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| maktub (707hp) | Meanwhile yesterday in Florida I was trying to wash my car and the sun was so hot it kept drying out the car and leaving stains lol
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| blbjn007 (28hp) | I get it, I felt pretty much the same way. I rebuilt my first engine with my friend's dad when I was 9 and have never looked back. Since then I have been able to do everything from the suspension to the brakes to the transmission and clutches. I did all the maintenance work on the E60s I had. These are slightly complicated cars compared to the 70's cars I worked on as a kid, but they're still just cars. Bolts, screws and nuts hold them together, that's all. Admittedly, BMW had the foresight to frustrate you with a wide selection of Torx bits and Torx screws, oh yeah, and Allen heads - so invest in sets if you don't already have them
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| 240474 (615hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 550Reasons. While I was trying to wash my car in Florida yesterday, the sun was so hot that it kept drying out the car and leaving stains. lol Nice, but who needs the suffering of all the hot women walking around scantily clad? It must be terrible in such weather. I love snow and I really enjoy skiing, so it's not a big deal for me personally, but the people around me are a little stressed, this is taking a little too long.
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| eustaces (56hp) | I haven't gone as far as rebuilding an engine yet, but boy does that sound like fun (not that I'd want to be able to). Oddly enough, when the F10 came out and I researched the most common problems, I was a little happy to see that I would probably have to replace the HPFP one day. I thought it was cute, a new thing to have fun with! Lol!
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| davida123 (391hp) | At least it's not the size of hail that hit parts of Dallas yesterday. You can easily remove snow, but such hail will destroy your car!
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| sasha99 (842hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Fro826 I haven't really gotten into rebuilding an engine, but boy does that sound like fun (not that I'd want to be in a position to have to do that). Oddly enough, when the F10 came out and I researched the most common problems, I was a little happy to see that I would probably have to replace the HPFP one day. I thought it was cute, what a new thing to get excited about! Lol! LOL, yes, but it's a PITA to get there. The previous generation N54 engine came with a 120,000 mile HPFP warranty because it failed so often. However, I'm not sure about the N55 (which we have)..
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| keira1 (878hp) | Yes, I saw the N54 120K warranty and I think I saw the F10s have the same HPFP. Well, yes. They cost $4xx, which surprised me when I thought they were $1,000. The other thing that made me grin was the walnut blasting! I get to take a bunch of shit off my engine and then spray walnut shells into it? When I first heard about it I thought it was some kind of voodoo! Now I can hardly wait! WTF is wrong with me???! Thank God I need a therapist....
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| rhfcysq (80hp) | LMAO, yes, walnut blasting is one of the few things I leave to someone with experience. Luckily, it's a fairly inexpensive service here in Southern California, about $250. This makes it cheaper than flushing the transmission in our cars (which costs around 100 euros). $300).
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| rasengan1 (629hp) | From what I've seen, $250 is an AWESOME price! For me, the lure of hooking up my shop vacuum to my 300 horsepower motor is just too tempting to pass up. Replacing the transmission oil is also on my wish list. I did it on my automatic E90, it's a PITA, but it was pretty cool to drop the transpony pan (this transpony had a filter built into the pan) and see how all the IF mechatronics got me -Madness stared. Ha-Ha!
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| 150693 (358hp) | The dealer will always rape you because of the labor costs. I've seen people here do it themselves for a lot less money. Check out the DIY articles, I believe they posted part numbers and how much.
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| 311084 (734hp) | Keep in mind that our OEM front rotors are two pieces with aluminum caps and have the same unsprung weight (around 2 pounds per side). When cross-shopping for the aftermarket, it most likely won't be two parts.
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| ocampo (75hp) | Yes, thanks Jay, a friend of mine also mentioned to me that the OEM rotors are two-piece and that this probably won't be the case with non-OEMs. 2 pounds per wheel is a fair compromise to probably save over $100 per rotor, at least for me.
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| hitech (757hp) | Quote: Originally written by Jayphil. Keep in mind that our OEM front rotors are two pieces with aluminum caps and have the same unsprung weight (approximately 2 pounds per side). When cross-shopping for the aftermarket, it most likely won't be two parts. Yes, I'm encountering this problem now. I noticed that no one except BMW has the two-piece design. And mine are warped or have hot spots so they jerk at high speeds and are rusted in the vents! They want almost $400 per rotor with my dealer discount! Damn, no son! I'm going to go the Zimmerman rotor route and replace the pads since the OEM pads also broke. The way I see it, why spend so much extra, and I've heard nothing but nightmare stories about the F10's front brake discs and pads warping and breaking again. Used Zimmerman/Textar on my E46 and no warping and no OEM braking. Just my 3 cents.
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| 524524 (490hp) | Quote: Originally posted by dadysev Yes, I'm running into this problem now. I noticed that no one except BMW has the two-piece design. And mine are warped or have hot spots so they jerk at high speeds and are rusted in the vents! They want almost $400 per rotor with my dealer discount! Damn, no son! I'm going to go the Zimmerman rotor route and replace the pads since the OEM pads also broke. The way I see it, why spend so much extra, and I've heard nothing but nightmare stories about the F10's front brake discs and pads warping and breaking again. Used Zimmerman/Textar on my E46 and no warping and no OEM brakes. Just my 3 cents. Zimmerman are quality parts, not OEM parts, but just as good (maybe better). On my previous E60 I used R1 Concept brake rotors (I liked the drilled or slotted look) and Hawk HPS brake pads. The only thing about the Hawk pads was that the initial bite was less, but the stopping power was much better, plus they produced a lot less dust than the OEM pads. Additionally, the Hawks are equipped with sensors and the front and rear sets cost around $140. That was a done deal for me. My F10 will definitely get Hawks, SS brake lines and slotted brake rotors.
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| topaz.null (689hp) | Quote: Originally posted by PJinCA Quote: Originally posted by dadysev Yes, I'm running into this problem now. I noticed that no one except BMW has the two-piece design. And mine are warped or have hot spots so they jerk at high speeds and are rusted in the vents! They want almost $400 per rotor with my dealer discount! Damn, no son! I'm going to go the Zimmerman rotor route and replace the pads since the OEM pads also broke. The way I see it, why spend so much extra, and I've heard nothing but nightmare stories about the F10's front brake discs and pads warping and breaking again. Used Zimmerman/Textar on my E46 and no warping and no OEM braking. Just my 3 cents. Zimmerman parts are quality parts, not OEM parts, but just as good (maybe better). On my previous E60 I used R1 Concept brake rotors (I liked the drilled or slotted look) and Hawk HPS brake pads. The only thing about the Hawk pads was that the initial bite was less, but the stopping power was much better, plus they produced a lot less dust than the OEM pads. Additionally, the Hawks are equipped with sensors and the front and rear sets cost around $140. That was a done deal for me. My F10 will definitely get Hawks, SS brake lines and slotted brake rotors. If you are hawks please post. I'm curious to see how they feel compared to the OEM on the F10. I just can't pass up the first bite. Tried it on my old E46. But cleaning brake dust is very important to me at my age
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| dmitrii (629hp) | I've only heard good things about Hawk's!
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