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| beautifull (334hp) | Quote: Originally posted by darrko I wasn't sure how exactly to go about washing the exhaust from the interior and I've been careful about it before. I would like someone to confirm if it is recommended to take additional measures, such as blocking the exhaust opening while washing the car. Darrko, you don't clean it, try to avoid it 100%. If the outside of the tip is dirty (dirt, etc.), use a cloth with soap and water, then spray with a slow garden hose making sure no water enters. Any water entering could remain in the baffle housing...and be sucked into the front baffles and catalytic converter, etc... (and cause rust). I found out the hard way in my Audi A4, I had to replace the deflector. a lot!
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| 10121995 (344hp) | Use an old, slightly damp alloy wheel brush, followed by metallic polish, to keep the inside of the ends nice and shiny on all my previous cars..
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| 198204 (16hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jedpause Darrko, you don't clean it, try to avoid it 100% If the outside of the tip is dirty (dirt, etc.), use a cloth with water and soap, then spray with a slow garden hose. of course no water enters. Any water entering could remain in the baffle housing...and be sucked into the front baffles and catalytic converter, etc....(and cause rust). I discovered it the hard way in my Audi A4, I had to replace everything! Make all gas station car washes unnecessary...???
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| 5005 (143hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Boss330 Make all gas station car washes useless, so...??? This is generally a fairly low pressure... (and not concentrated in a single jet)... I was talking more about keeping a garden hose or pressure washer away from the exhaust pipes.....
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| bill89 (131hp) | Gang, What were the exact introduction dates of the 2010-2011-2012 5 Series and 2013 5 Series in the United States? THANKS
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| gjhjctyjr (390hp) | For the United States and Canada - For MY 2011... http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378983 Msport version - Released at the end of August and delivered in September 2010 under the name MY2011
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| Master1 (740hp) | Quote: Originally posted by bobblehead For US and Canada - For my 2011... http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378983 Msport Version - Released late August and delivered September 2010 as MY2011 Thanks for the 2010 introduction date. Now, does anyone know the dates for 2011, 2012 and 2013 5 Series...? THANKS
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| phil (25hp) | For all subsequent years, their production begins around July and the delivery date in September of each model year. There is already news that the LCI will be available for the year 2014 and it seems that the order can be submitted around June 2013 and delivered around August/September 2013. Quote: Originally posted by mspeasl Thanks for the date of 2010 intro. Now, does anyone know the dates for 2011, 2012 and 2013 5 Series...? THANKS
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| vjz (355hp) | Gang, What were the exact introduction dates of the 2010-2011-2012 5 Series and the 2013 5 Series in the United States? THANKS
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| sunset7 (461hp) | For the United States and Canada - For MY 2011... http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378983 Msport version - Released at the end of August and delivered in September 2010 under the name MY2011
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| 1812 (698hp) | Quote: Originally posted by bobblehead For US and Canada - For my 2011... http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378983 Msport Version - Released late August and delivered September 2010 as MY2011 Thanks for the 2010 introduction date. Now, does anyone know the dates for 2011, 2012 and 2013 5 Series...? THANKS
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| bradley01 (588hp) | For all subsequent years, their production begins around July and the delivery date in September of each model year. There is already news that the LCI will be available for the year 2014 and it seems that the order can be submitted around June 2013 and delivered around August/September 2013. Quote: Originally posted by mspeasl Thanks for the date of 2010 intro. Now, does anyone know the dates for 2011, 2012 and 2013 5 Series...? THANKS
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| angels77 (705hp) | My wife's new x1 was in the store for a software fix. So, our wonderful dealer gave him a beautiful 2013 535i --- virtually loaded. First of all, I was struck by the handling and, to some extent, the interior. I swear, this car handles like an E39. It is so light, agile and throwable. Then it was night. The crystal white angel eyes cast a glass shadow shattering the darkness like some kind of fissionable material---it was glorious!!! And then, standing no less than 20 feet in front of the dazzling beams, my head looked down. At first it felt like I was standing in my own pee. The feeling got worse. And then it hit me. Nooooooooooooooooooo! The value of the white-hot crystal bundles was suddenly diminished by a mixture of sulfur and urine. The white-hot headlights, once mighty and valiant, have been decimated by the cheese-colored, sulfur-burning fog lights. Why BMW? For what? Yellow fog lights on the same car that housed those brilliant headlights? For what? Why are you spoon-feeding us and making us wait for LCI after LCI? Take a bite of Apple and discover the importance of completing the aesthetic picture. Ahhhhhhhhhh.
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| 2rOH8tl433 (664hp) | LOL, a simple bulb upgrade costs less than waiting for an LCI. =)
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| BeemER13 (974hp) | I never found the need for the fog lights anyway, the adaptive headlight option is great. The car looks great without them.
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| speedway1 (188hp) | There is a very simple solution....... Ask for a 6 Gran Coupe with Full LED lighting for a loaner next time
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| 060591 (525hp) | LOL hilarious. This is how I feel about my AW 535i. I plan to replace these nasty bulbs tomorrow.
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| chachacha (967hp) | The theory is that selective yellow lamps (white light without blue frequencies) give better definition of objects and produce less reflection and glare in fog, light rain and light snow. I don't know if it's true or not
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| chicky1 (592hp) | See (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html) Interesting reading... In short, I deduce that the selective filtering of yellow makes blue disappear from the spectrum (which is difficult to manage for retina), leaving good light to discern objects in front of you that you need to see...
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| 030809 (757hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jedpause See (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html) Interesting reading... In short, I conclude that selectively filtering yellow eliminates blue of the spectrum (which is difficult for the retina to deal with), thus leaving good light to discern objects in front of you that you need to see... Oh. That's why we see bullshit so clearly
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| DANIELLE (934hp) | I have had the car for 18 months and have never turned on these fog lights once. Without even seeing if it lights up.
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| 14theroad (773hp) | Remove them using the M550d bumper grilles.
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| jamesp (662hp) | My wife's new x1 was in the store for a software fix. So, our wonderful dealer gave him a beautiful 2013 535i --- virtually loaded. First of all, I was struck by the handling and, to some extent, the interior. I swear, this car handles like an E39. It is so light, agile and throwable. And then, it was night. The crystal white angel eyes cast a glass shadow shattering the darkness like some kind of fissionable material---it was glorious!!! And then, standing no less than 20 feet in front of the dazzling beams, my head looked down. At first it felt like I was standing in my own pee. The feeling got worse. And then it hit me. Nooooooooooooooooooo! The value of the white-hot crystal bundles was suddenly diminished by a mixture of sulfur and urine. The white-hot headlights, once mighty and valiant, have been decimated by the cheese-colored, sulfur-burning fog lights. Why BMW? For what? Yellow fog lights on the same car that housed those brilliant headlights? For what? Why are you spoon-feeding us and making us wait for LCI after LCI? Take a bite of Apple and discover the importance of completing the aesthetic picture. Ahhhhhhhhhh.
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| gasgas (580hp) | LOL, a simple bulb upgrade costs less than waiting for an LCI. =)
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| skater32 (750hp) | I never found the need for the fog lights anyway, the adaptive headlight option is great. The car looks great without them.
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| 951623 (985hp) | There is a very simple solution....... Ask for a 6 Gran Coupe with Full LED lighting for a loaner next time
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| 02091979 (957hp) | LOL hilarious. This is how I feel about my AW 535i. I plan to replace these nasty bulbs tomorrow.
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| goldenbrown123 (183hp) | The theory is that selective yellow lamps (white light without blue frequencies) give better definition of objects and produce less reflection and glare in fog, light rain and light snow. I don't know if it's true or not
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| 5841314521 (169hp) | See (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html) Interesting reading... In short, I deduce that the selective filtering of yellow makes blue disappear from the spectrum (which is difficult to manage for retina), leaving good light to discern objects in front of you that you need to see...
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| 11121974 (577hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jedpause See (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html) Interesting reading... In short, I conclude that selectively filtering yellow eliminates blue of the spectrum (which is difficult for the retina to deal with), thus leaving good light to discern objects in front of you that you need to see... Oh. That's why we see bullshit so clearly
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| meiling (749hp) | I have had the car for 18 months and have never turned on these fog lights once. Without even seeing if it lights up.
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| arrowhead (989hp) | Remove them using the M550d bumper grilles.
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| jdcolombo (247hp) | I think you should read the entire thread before making a comment like that. The idea for this thread started when someone wanted a big German sedan that looked great, went like hell, and was reasonably priced. The A7 and 5 series fall into this category! I actually talked to a friend of mine the other day, and when he saw my 550i, he said it was a great car, but I like the way the A7 looks back. Real people in real life really compare them side by side. The A7 and F10 5 series were released a long time ago, while the 6 series GT was just released recently..........
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| marsha1 (231hp) | I don't agree. Never seen in European car magazines a comparison between 5er and A7. However, people are free to compare whatever they want... even an A7 with a MINI!
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| hanhan (368hp) | I was seriously considering the A7 before getting my 550i M sport. After driving the 550i, it was a no-brainer for a speed junkie like me.
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| Livefour2day (312hp) | I think you should read the entire thread before making a comment like that. The idea for this thread started when someone wanted a big German sedan that looked great, went like hell, and was reasonably priced. The A7 and 5 series fall into this category! I actually talked to a friend of mine the other day, and when he saw my 550i, he said it was a great car, but I like the way the A7 looks back. Real people in real life really compare them side by side. The A7 and F10 5 series were released a long time ago, while the 6 series GT was just released recently..........
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| usman123 (815hp) | I don't agree. Never seen in European car magazines a comparison between 5er and A7. However, people are free to compare whatever they want... even an A7 with a MINI!
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| ymbmw1775 (677hp) | I was seriously considering the A7 before getting my 550i M sport. After driving the 550i, it was a no-brainer for a speed junkie like me.
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| timon (263hp) | Just wondering if anyone without a navigation system has Connected Drive and the BMW apps? I'm trying to decide on a new cell phone and if an iPhone and a little coding will give me new features in my car.
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| the1ring (903hp) | no, but you can connect via Bluetooth/USB from the BMW Connected iPhone app itself in a snap.
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| love1981 (314hp) | Just wondering if anyone without a navigation system has Connected Drive and the BMW apps? I'm trying to decide on a new cell phone and if an iPhone and a little coding will give me new features in my car.
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| MenTul (205hp) | no, but you can connect via Bluetooth/USB from the BMW Connected iPhone app itself in a snap.
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| surfboard (208hp) | A word on when LCI would be for F10? Model year 2014?
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| lighting1 (577hp) | This is the model 2014.
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| nicole04 (255hp) | Thanks - do we already know what that would entail??
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| `12345 (835hp) | Probably the usual: bumper change, square halo etc... My question is will they change the headlights to be similar to the f30? The appearance of the tear duct?
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| ajherran (703hp) | LED headlights!! I can't wait to upgrade them.
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| power12345 (221hp) | It's safe to say that the option of LED headlights with square halos will become an option on the LCI update with the HP increases. Nothing is confirmed obviously, but these two are 99.9% going to perform in the ICL. Hopefully these are just minor bumper/headlight changes on the exterior with no sheetmetal changes. My F10 isn't even here yet and I feel like I'm already counting the days it's already obsolete.... Alan
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| JohnnyF10 (355hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Alan L. It's the 2014 model. I don't think so. LCIs are typically released in the fifth year of a seven-year model cycle. The E60 was first launched as MY2004 and the LCI was a MY2008. The F01 was introduced two years before the F10 as MY2009 and its LCI was just released as MY2013. I would expect the F10's LCI to be a 2015 year model, released in spring or fall 2015. 2014.
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| 091984 (474hp) | Believe me, I certainly hope you're right and I'm wrong since I don't want my 2013 to become the old model within a year, but see this thread here by SCOTT26 http://f10.5post .com/forums/showthread.php ?t=708189 Meanwhile, the car will receive an LCi in the next twelve months which will see the 5er inherit similar LED technology as the last 7er, some additional technology updates and engine improvements and subtle styling changes with a look inspired by the 2010 BMW Active Hybrid 5 Concept. The 5er could also serve as the basis for a world-first high-efficiency model powered by BMW's upcoming three-cylinder engine. He appears to work for BMW headquarters and has all the secrets to everything BMW. Alan
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| mickey10 (320hp) | Quote: Posted by Hinckley I don't think so. LCIs are typically released in the fifth year of a seven-year model cycle. The E60 was first launched as MY2004 and the LCI was a MY2008. The F01 was introduced two years before the F10 as MY2009 and its LCI was just released as MY2013. I would expect the F10's LCI to be a 2015 model year, released in Spring or Fall 2014. +1 This is the model. My customer advisor also said the same thing on a conference call today..
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| mychemical (409hp) | If you follow the E90 platform released in 2006 and the LCI released in 2009 (4th year), it will be the same for the F10. 2011 and LCI 2014MY
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| russell123 (287hp) | I will have an announcement about this soon..
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| january08 (208hp) | If it is a MY 2014, when will it be open for ordering and delivery ??
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| RyanS (485hp) | 2014 Construction will most likely begin in September/October 2013 for delivery in December. You have a long way to go. Alan
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| Kay2theVe (320hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Alan L. Construction for 2014 will most likely begin in September/October 2013 for delivery in December. You have a long way to go. Alan Thanks...that's helpful
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| redblue1 (485hp) | Quote: Originally posted by hinckley Quote: Originally posted by Alan l. It's the 2014 model. I don't think so. LCIs are typically released in the fifth year of a seven-year model cycle. The E60 was first launched as MY2004 and the LCI was a MY2008. The F01 was introduced two years before the F10 as MY2009 and its LCI was just released as MY2013. I would expect the F10's LCI to be a 2015 model year, released in Spring or Fall 2014. No. Still in the 4th year of the 7-year cycle. In this way, LCI can move the model forward in its final 4 years. So 2014 model, available from fall 2013.
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| pish180 (532hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta No. Still in the 4th year of the 7-year cycle. In this way, LCI can move the model forward in its final 4 years. So 2014 model, available from fall 2013. You may want to check your history and calculations a little more closely..
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| 06071994 (59hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Hinckley You might want to check your history and math a little more closely. My story may be wrong, but what's wrong with my math ??
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| loo (755hp) | I assume March 2013 is a 2014 model. The E60 LCI was March 2007 as a model 2008.
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| imcute1 (625hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 21450 The E60 LCI dates back to March 2007 as a 2008 model. Okay, so let's do the math E60: MY2004 = model year 1 MY2005 = model year 2 MY2006 = model year 3 MY2007 = model year 4 MY2008 = model year model 5, the LCI model The same calculation applies to F01. And - this should follow - for the F10: MY2011 = model year 1 MY2012 = model year 2 MY2013 = model year 3 MY2014 = model year 4 MY2015 = model year 5, the LCI model, likely to be introduced in the spring (as the E60) or the fall (like the F01) of 2014
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| 180287 (487hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Hinckley That's right, so let's do the math E60: MY2004 = model year 1 MY2005 = model year 2 MY2006 = model year 3 MY2007 = model year 4 MY2008 = model year 5, the LCI model same calculations applied to F01. And - this should follow - for the F10: MY2011 = model year 1 MY2012 = model year 2 MY2013 = model year 3 MY2014 = model year 4 MY2015 = model year 5, the LCI model, likely to be introduced in the spring (as the E60) or autumn (like F01) of 2014. Good to know, my calculations are still ok. History has never been my strong point
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| playing (383hp) | The model publishing guide on the bimmerpost homepage shows that the LCI is from September 2013. I hope this is true.
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| Need4Speed_Motorsports (275hp) | Quote: Originally posted by luvthestck The model release guide on bimmerpost shows the LCI as September 2013. I hope that's true. This would be great for anyone like me who is waiting for the ICL. Do you have a link to the guide (I searched and couldn't find it)? THANKS.
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| 22332233 (762hp) | A word on when LCI would be for F10? Model year 2014?
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| 31011992 (560hp) | This is the model 2014.
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| splash1 (567hp) | Thanks - do we already know what that would entail??
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| laylay (909hp) | Probably the usual: bumper change, square halo etc... My question is will they change the headlights to be similar to the f30? The appearance of the tear duct?
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| bringiton1 (831hp) | LED headlights!! I can't wait to upgrade them.
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| jm335i (666hp) | It's safe to say that the option of LED headlights with square halos will become an option on the LCI update with the HP increases. Nothing is confirmed obviously, but these two are 99.9% going to perform in the ICL. Hopefully these are just minor bumper/headlight changes on the exterior with no sheetmetal changes. My F10 isn't even here yet and I feel like I'm already counting the days it's already obsolete.... Alan
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| killemall1 (376hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Alan L. It's the 2014 model. I don't think so. LCIs are typically released in the fifth year of a seven-year model cycle. The E60 was first launched as MY2004 and the LCI was a MY2008. The F01 was introduced two years before the F10 as MY2009 and its LCI was just released as MY2013. I would expect the F10's LCI to be a 2015 year model, released in spring or fall 2015. 2014.
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| 05061993 (73hp) | Believe me, I certainly hope you're right and I'm wrong since I don't want my 2013 to become the old model within a year, but see this thread here by SCOTT26 http://f10.5post .com/forums/showthread.php ?t=708189 Meanwhile, the car will receive an LCi over the next twelve months, which will see the 5er inherit similar LED technology as the latest 7er, some tech updates additional engine upgrades and subtle styling changes. with a look inspired by the 2010 BMW Active Hybrid 5 concept. The 5er could also serve as the basis for a world-first high-efficiency model powered by BMW's upcoming three-cylinder engine. He appears to work for BMW headquarters and has all the secrets to everything BMW. Alan
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| stars7 (749hp) | Quote: Posted by Hinckley I don't think so. LCIs are typically released in the fifth year of a seven-year model cycle. The E60 was first launched as MY2004 and the LCI was a MY2008. The F01 was introduced two years before the F10 as MY2009 and its LCI was just released as MY2013. I would expect the F10's LCI to be a 2015 model year, released in Spring or Fall 2014. +1 This is the model. My customer advisor also said the same thing on a conference call today..
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| 25061977 (5hp) | If you follow the E90 platform released in 2006 and the LCI released in 2009 (4th year), it will be the same for the F10. 2011 and LCI 2014MY
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| artemis1 (97hp) | I will have an announcement about this soon..
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| sin1_19 (949hp) | If it is a MY 2014, when will it be open for ordering and delivery ??
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| joeyboy (418hp) | 2014 Construction will most likely begin in September/October 2013 for delivery in December. You have a long way to go. Alan
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| pablito1 (670hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Alan L. Construction for 2014 will most likely begin in September/October 2013 for delivery in December. You have a long way to go. Alan Thanks...that's helpful
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| haterz1 (418hp) | Quote: Originally posted by hinckley Quote: Originally posted by Alan l. It's the 2014 model. I don't think so. LCIs are typically released in the fifth year of a seven-year model cycle. The E60 was first launched as MY2004 and the LCI was a MY2008. The F01 was introduced two years before the F10 as MY2009 and its LCI was just released as MY2013. I would expect the F10's LCI to be a 2015 model year, released in Spring or Fall 2014. No. Still in the 4th year of the 7-year cycle. In this way, LCI can move the model forward in its final 4 years. So 2014 model, available from fall 2013.
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| chapman (20hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta No. Still in the 4th year of the 7-year cycle. In this way, LCI can move the model forward in its final 4 years. So 2014 model, available from fall 2013. You may want to check your history and calculations a little more closely..
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| sixsix (849hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Hinckley You might want to check your history and math a little more closely. My story may be wrong, but what's wrong with my math ??
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| bitch66 (950hp) | I assume this is March 2013 as a 2014 model. The E60 LCI was March 2007 as a model 2008.
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| mamanjtm (154hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 21450 The E60 LCI dates back to March 2007 as a 2008 model. Okay, so let's do the math E60: MY2004 = model year 1 MY2005 = model year 2 MY2006 = model year 3 MY2007 = model year 4 MY2008 = model year model 5, the LCI model The same calculation applies to F01. And - this should follow - for the F10: MY2011 = model year 1 MY2012 = model year 2 MY2013 = model year 3 MY2014 = model year 4 MY2015 = model year 5, the LCI model, likely to be introduced in the spring (as the E60) or the fall (like the F01) of 2014
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| trogdor (875hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Hinckley That's right, so let's do the math E60: MY2004 = model year 1 MY2005 = model year 2 MY2006 = model year 3 MY2007 = model year 4 MY2008 = model year 5, the LCI model same calculations applied to F01. And - this should follow - for the F10: MY2011 = model year 1 MY2012 = model year 2 MY2013 = model year 3 MY2014 = model year 4 MY2015 = model year 5, the LCI model, likely to be introduced in the spring (as the E60) or autumn (like F01) of 2014. Good to know, my calculations are still ok. History has never been my strong point
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| leanna (998hp) | The model publishing guide on the bimmerpost homepage shows that the LCI is from September 2013. I hope this is true.
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| elvispresley (587hp) | Quote: Originally posted by luvthestck The model release guide on bimmerpost shows the LCI as September 2013. I hope that's true. This would be great for anyone like me who is waiting for the ICL. Do you have a link to the guide (I searched and couldn't find it)? THANKS.
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| chocha1 (625hp) | I'm having issues with my music playing from my iPhone (4S, IOS6) on a 550xi F10 10/2010 and was wondering if anyone else has had this. The following strange behavior is often observed: 1) I play music to my car all the time via bloetooth. When I get into my car, my phone connects and automatically starts streaming. 2) When playing with my phone in the car and streaming, sometimes my screen freezes and stops displaying the mp3 I'm playing. I don't know how to fix this yet. The music continues to play and I can skip to the next or previous song, it's just the display is frozen. 3) When I use my phone to listen to music while I am NOT in the car, every time I enter the car the music will not play. To be completely precise, the phone will play but nothing will be heard from the stereo. I fix it by listening to one of my saved radio stations and then switching back to Bluetooth streaming. 4) Sometimes the music stops while listening. This is resolved again by going to the radio and switching back to Bluetooth. Has anyone else seen this on their vehicle? I don't have the 6NR option and I can't play via USB.
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| Scooter1 (430hp) | I went to my local dealership last night to test drive a 535 M-sport. Big dealer, supposedly with big inventory. Lots of stock M-sport but not with dynamic handling pack. the seller was not even aware of the package. After bringing it to his attention he searched the inventory and said there were only 6 in the western US and they were all ordered to spec and not in stock . Is this even possible? Any suggestions on how I can get behind the wheel of a vehicle with this package. I hope this set will provide a more enjoyable driving experience. Otherwise, maybe I should consider the A6. Thank you for your contribution. Péj
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| letitia (708hp) | so no one else has these problems? Is it just me or..
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| zaneta (948hp) | thoughts?
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| tyler2008 (806hp) | Quote: Originally posted by tnikolov so no one else has these problems? Is it just me or... Check you have the latest software www.bmw.com/update
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| kjyljy (432hp) | It is common to order a car. This way you get the packages you really want. It just takes a little time for it to be delivered. If you like the best handling, I also recommend the Integral Active Steering pack which offers 4 steering wheels..
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| gatoman39 (958hp) | Quote: Originally posted by u080570 Make sure you have the latest software www.bmw.com/update. I updated it last week. Actually, I'm sure this didn't happen with the previous version of the software....
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| H_T (198hp) | Are you referring to Dynamic Damper Control (DDC), as BMW calls it? If so, I find it unpleasantly amusing that they are marketing an M Sport pack without DDC. It would seem that this is all about appearance without function. The Sport (non-M) package on my '12 F10 535xi came with (in order listed): DDC, leather sport steering wheel (same as M but without the M badge), 19-spoke alloy wheels in V, multicontours. Seats (a must), Shadowline exterior trim and anthracite headliner. The DDC, seats and 19 wheels are all very functional IMHO. So I have all the functional sporty features of the M Sport but without the M body kit, that's what I wanted. I have no idea how the 535i's suspension works without DDC but I can tell you that I use DDC regularly. I like to leave it in a comfortable environment when I'm just cruising around on bumpy, crappy roads. Then, on longer trips, I set the sport mode to a firm chassis but with smooth throttle response to improve handling while saving fuel. When I want to get going, I put it in sport+ mode, which virtually eliminates body roll, turns off traction control, and defaults to aggressive throttle response. For me, M Sport without DDC would be a deal breaker, as I have no desire to have the M look without features. For 2013, I understand that the sport package with multi-contour seats may no longer exist and you will have to order them separately. Maybe they also watered down the M Sport package? I don't know - maybe someone more familiar with the Bimmer range can comment.
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| bryant8 (460hp) | Quote: Originally posted by tnikolov Yes, I updated it last week. In fact, I'm sure this didn't happen with the previous version of the software... There is an option to revert to the previous version - maybe try it and see if it starts working again - the current code may not work for your situation.
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| Taylor1 (614hp) | Quote: Originally posted by LastFrontierBimmer Are you referring to Dynamic Damper Control (DDC), as BMW calls it? If so, I find it unpleasantly amusing that they are marketing an M Sport pack without DDC. It would seem that this is all about appearance without function. The Sport (non-M) package on my '12 F10 535xi came with (in order listed): DDC, leather sport steering wheel (same as M but without the M badge), 19-spoke alloy wheels in V, multicontours. Seats (a must), Shadowline exterior trim and anthracite headliner. The DDC, seats and 19 wheels are all very functional IMHO. So I have all the functional sporty features of the M Sport but without the M body kit, that's what I wanted. I have no idea how the 535i's suspension works without DDC but I can tell you that I use DDC regularly. I like to leave it in a comfortable environment when I'm just cruising around on bumpy, crappy roads. Then, on longer trips, I set the sport mode to a firm chassis but with smooth throttle response to improve handling while saving fuel. When I want to get going, I put it in sport+ mode, which virtually eliminates body roll, turns off traction control, and defaults to aggressive throttle response. For me, M Sport without DDC would be a deal breaker, as I have no desire to have the M look without features. For 2013, I understand that the sport package with multi-contour seats may no longer exist and you will have to order them separately. Maybe they also watered down the M Sport package? I don't know - maybe someone more familiar with the Bimmer range can comment. Thanks for the comments. I ordered a MY13 with M sport + DDC but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra $1000. None of the dealers in my city have DDC on their cars, so I haven't had a chance to try it. DDC is not part of the M sports package for MY13.
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| mastodon (856hp) | I'm having issues with my music playing from my iPhone (4S, IOS6) on a 550xi F10 10/2010 and was wondering if anyone else has had this. The following strange behavior is often observed: 1) I play music to my car all the time via bloetooth. When I get into my car, my phone connects and automatically starts streaming. 2) When playing with my phone in the car and streaming, sometimes my screen freezes and stops displaying the mp3 I'm playing. I don't know how to fix this yet. The music continues to play and I can skip to the next or previous song, it's just the display is frozen. 3) When I use my phone to listen to music while I am NOT in the car, every time I enter the car the music will not play. To be completely precise, the phone will play but nothing will be heard from the stereo. I fix it by listening to one of my saved radio stations and then switching back to Bluetooth streaming. 4) Sometimes the music stops while listening. This is resolved again by going to the radio and switching back to Bluetooth. Has anyone else seen this on their vehicle? I don't have the 6NR option and I can't play via USB.
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| manga (573hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Silververtu Thank you for your comments. I ordered a MY13 with M sport + DDC but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra $1000. None of the dealers in my city have DDC on their cars, so I haven't had a chance to try it. DDC is not part of the M Sports Pack for MY13. If you haven't figured it out, you won't really know what DDC is like. But if you are someone who enjoys taking turns and having a good driving experience, then the DDC is worth 1 000 $.
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| ceo (111hp) | so no one else has these problems? Is it just me or..
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| bnmbnm (149hp) | Quote: Originally posted by LastFrontierBimmer Are you referring to Dynamic Damper Control (DDC), as BMW calls it? If so, I find it unpleasantly amusing that they are marketing an M Sport pack without DDC. It would seem that this is all about appearance without function. The Sport (non-M) package on my '12 F10 535xi came with (in order listed): DDC, leather sport steering wheel (same as M but without the M badge), 19-spoke alloy wheels in V, multicontours. Seats (a must), Shadowline exterior trim and anthracite headliner. The DDC, seats and 19 wheels are all very functional IMHO. So I have all the functional sporty features of the M Sport but without the M body kit, that's what I wanted. I have no idea how the 535i's suspension works without DDC but I can tell you that I use DDC regularly. I like to leave it in a comfortable environment when I'm just cruising around on bumpy, crappy roads. Then, on longer trips, I set the sport mode to a firm chassis but with smooth throttle response to improve handling while saving fuel. When I want to get going, I put it in sport+ mode, which virtually eliminates body roll, turns off traction control, and defaults to aggressive throttle response. For me, M Sport without DDC would be a deal breaker, as I have no desire to have the M look without features. For 2013, I understand that the sport package with multi-contour seats may no longer exist and you will have to order them separately. Maybe they also watered down the M Sport package? I don't know - maybe someone more familiar with the Bimmer range can comment. I would also definitely recommend the DDC. It seems strange that there are so few in the United States. Here I would guess that 30-50% of F10s have this feature. I don't completely agree with your point of view on M-sport without DDC, it's just a matter of looks. The M-sport without DDC comes with a different M-sport suspension from non-M cars. So the M-sport option gives you a car with better handling even without the DDC.
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| yourmom. (206hp) | Quote: Originally posted by tnikolov so no one else has these problems? Is it just me or... Check you have the latest software www.bmw.com/update
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| sinead1 (710hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Silververtu Thank you for your comments. I ordered a MY13 with M sport + DDC but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra $1000. None of the dealers in my city have DDC on their cars, so I haven't had a chance to try it. DDC is not part of the M Sports Pack for MY13. I think it's a good expense. You will have no regrets, especially since it only represents a small proportion of the total expense. Quote: Posted by Boss330 I don't completely agree with your point of view on M-sport without DDC, it's just a matter of looks. The M-sport without DDC comes with a different M-sport suspension from non-M cars. So the M-sport option gives you a car with better handling even without the DDC. I'm happy to be corrected. I've tried to be open about my relative ignorance regarding the plethora of options and variants available from BMW. I agree that improving the suspension (springs, shock absorbers, etc.) is a very important way to improve the ride, even without the latest electronic improvements..
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| willie11 (193hp) | Quote: Originally posted by u080570 Make sure you have the latest software www.bmw.com/update. I updated it last week. Actually, I'm sure this didn't happen with the previous version of the software....
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| missy08 (809hp) | Let me intervene. I just purchased a 2013 535i with M-sport. The 2013 model year is the first time in the United States that you can get the M-sport suspension with the F10. I have driven a LOT of F10 5 series since it came out since I worked for BMW. The handling of the 2013 5 Series with M-sport package with just the M-sport tuned suspension is incredible1. It's smooth on the road, but cornering is stable and precise with VERY little body roll. I'm glad they finally made it the standard suspension for the M-sports package, because that's what the F10 really needed. It is 10mm lower than the standard standard suspension or DDC or Dynamic handling package. For those who thought the 5 Series had become too soft with the F10 redesign, the way to go is to get the M-sports package and not the Dynamic Handling Package or DDC..
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| 31121985 (408hp) | Quote: Originally posted by tnikolov Yes, I updated it last week. In fact, I'm sure this didn't happen with the previous version of the software... There is an option to revert to the previous version - maybe try it and see if it starts working again - the current code may not work for your situation.
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| pepsimax (770hp) | Just build the car the way you want it, it will be here in 2 months with everything you want, and you won't end up paying for things you don't want... like heated rear seats... lol, definitely get the heads-up display. , GPS also displays directions in the glass so you don't have to look at the screen, saving you from getting tickets.
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| gamestop (348hp) | ///MD, it may be easier to find an Msport with only dynamic damper control than with the dynamic management package, the difference is active roll stabilization..
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| portugal17 (286hp) | I wish BMW had communicated this better in July, because I never would have ordered mine with DDC (which I can't even say does much), because the crappiest roads always seem very smooth compared to my fully tweaked E46. So I spent $1,000 on a DDC that I'm not really interested in, then another $550 on the ACS springs that are now in my garage, and then probably another $500 to install them..
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| boatracer41 (241hp) | I ordered my 535i with DDC (223) as a standalone option and not as part of the Adaptive Drive (2VA), so that means I don't have the Dynamic Drive (229). What is the deference of having the DDC alone compared to the Adaptive Drive since I also have the comfort, sport, sport selector+ ?
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| 06011991 (263hp) | Quote: Originally posted by hasan68 I ordered my 535i with DDC (223) as a standalone option and not as part of the Adaptive Drive (2VA), so that means I don't have the Dynamic Drive (229). What is the deference of having the DDC alone compared to the Adaptive Drive since I also have the comfort, sport, sport+ selector? In my testing, DDC is not worth it. In Normal mode (which I spent 98% of my driving in) the car felt disconnected from the road, the non-DDC equipped car in Normal mode felt so much better. But when I tested the car with the full Adaptive Drive system, it made a huge difference, especially the body roll in corners. If BMW offered this on the 2.0L diesel engines I would definitely get it, but unfortunately for the smaller engines there is only the DDC option which I was happy to pass on. If you can afford the 2VA go for it, you won't regret it, otherwise ditch the DDC and maybe go for the passive M suspension if you want a slightly sportier 5er..
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| 2ealtD3y4Y (836hp) | Quote: Originally posted by FElleven... But when I tested the car with the full Adaptive Drive system, it made a huge difference, especially the body roll in corners. If BMW offered this on the 2.0L diesel engines I would definitely get it, but unfortunately for the smaller engines there is only the DDC option which I was happy to pass on. If you can afford the 2VA go for it, you won't regret it, otherwise ditch the DDC and maybe go for the passive M suspension if you want a slightly sportier 5er. I agree, Adaptive Drive “full cream” (2VA), or the M-sport passive suspension. For me, it's the best roll control that makes the suspension. My F11 535i wagon is equipped with Adaptive Drive, the best BMW suspension I have ever driven, compared to the M-tech E39 passive suspension which I considered the perfect BMW road setup. HighlandPete
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| itsover1 (35hp) | I went to my local dealership last night to test drive a 535 M-sport. Big dealer, supposedly with big inventory. Lots of stock M-sport but not with dynamic handling pack. the seller was not even aware of the package. After bringing it to his attention he searched the inventory and said there were only 6 in the western US and they were all ordered to spec and not in stock . Is this even possible? Any suggestions on how I can get behind the wheel of a vehicle with this package. I hope this set will provide a more enjoyable driving experience. Otherwise, maybe I should consider the A6. Thank you for your contribution. Péj
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| mantic (122hp) | thoughts?
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| 199406 (43hp) | It is common to order a car. This way you get the packages you really want. It just takes a little time for it to be delivered. If you like the best handling, I also recommend the Integral Active Steering pack which offers 4 steering wheels..
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| alexandra0 (842hp) | Are you referring to Dynamic Damper Control (DDC), as BMW calls it? If so, I find it unpleasantly amusing that they are marketing an M Sport pack without DDC. It would seem that this is all about appearance without function. The Sport (non-M) package on my '12 F10 535xi came with (in order listed): DDC, leather sport steering wheel (same as M but without the M badge), 19-spoke alloy wheels in V, multicontours. Seats (a must), Shadowline exterior trim and anthracite headliner. The DDC, seats and 19 wheels are all very functional IMHO. So I have all the functional sporty features of the M Sport but without the M body kit, that's what I wanted. I have no idea how the 535i's suspension works without DDC but I can tell you that I use DDC regularly. I like to leave it in a comfortable environment when I'm just cruising around on bumpy, crappy roads. Then, on longer trips, I set the sport mode to a firm chassis but with smooth throttle response to improve handling while saving fuel. When I want to get going, I put it in sport+ mode, which virtually eliminates body roll, turns off traction control, and defaults to aggressive throttle response. For me, M Sport without DDC would be a deal breaker, as I have no desire to have the M look without features. For 2013, I understand that the sport package with multi-contour seats may no longer exist and you will have to order them separately. Maybe they also watered down the M Sport package? I don't know - maybe someone more familiar with the Bimmer range can comment.
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| chicos (943hp) | Quote: Originally posted by LastFrontierBimmer Are you referring to Dynamic Damper Control (DDC), as BMW calls it? If so, I find it unpleasantly amusing that they are marketing an M Sport pack without DDC. It would seem that this is all about appearance without function. The Sport (non-M) package on my '12 F10 535xi came with (in order listed): DDC, leather sport steering wheel (same as M but without the M badge), 19-spoke alloy wheels in V, multicontours. Seats (a must), Shadowline exterior trim and anthracite headliner. The DDC, seats and 19 wheels are all very functional IMHO. So I have all the functional sporty features of the M Sport but without the M body kit, that's what I wanted. I have no idea how the 535i's suspension works without DDC but I can tell you that I use DDC regularly. I like to leave it in a comfortable environment when I'm just cruising around on bumpy, crappy roads. Then, on longer trips, I set the sport mode to a firm chassis but with smooth throttle response to improve handling while saving fuel. When I want to get going, I put it in sport+ mode, which virtually eliminates body roll, turns off traction control, and defaults to aggressive throttle response. For me, M Sport without DDC would be a deal breaker, as I have no desire to have the M look without features. For 2013, I understand that the sport package with multi-contour seats may no longer exist and you will have to order them separately. Maybe they also watered down the M Sport package? I don't know - maybe someone more familiar with the Bimmer range can comment. Thanks for the comments. I ordered a MY13 with M sport + DDC but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra $1000. None of the dealers in my city have DDC on their cars, so I haven't had a chance to try it. DDC is not part of the M sports package for MY13.
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| alpha1 (773hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Silververtu Thank you for your comments. I ordered a MY13 with M sport + DDC but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra $1000. None of the dealers in my city have DDC on their cars, so I haven't had a chance to try it. DDC is not part of the M Sports Pack for MY13. If you haven't figured it out, you won't really know what DDC is like. But if you are someone who enjoys taking turns and having a good driving experience, then the DDC is worth 1 000 $.
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| woody12 (329hp) | Quote: Originally posted by LastFrontierBimmer Are you referring to Dynamic Damper Control (DDC), as BMW calls it? If so, I find it unpleasantly amusing that they are marketing an M Sport pack without DDC. It would seem that this is all about appearance without function. The Sport (non-M) package on my '12 F10 535xi came with (in order listed): DDC, leather sport steering wheel (same as M but without the M badge), 19-spoke alloy wheels in V, multicontours. Seats (a must), Shadowline exterior trim and anthracite headliner. The DDC, seats and 19 wheels are all very functional IMHO. So I have all the functional sporty features of the M Sport but without the M body kit, that's what I wanted. I have no idea how the 535i's suspension works without DDC but I can tell you that I use DDC regularly. I like to leave it in a comfortable environment when I'm just cruising around on bumpy, crappy roads. Then, on longer trips, I set the sport mode to a firm chassis but with smooth throttle response to improve handling while saving fuel. When I want to get going, I put it in sport+ mode, which virtually eliminates body roll, turns off traction control, and defaults to aggressive throttle response. For me, M Sport without DDC would be a deal breaker, as I have no desire to have the M look without features. For 2013, I understand that the sport package with multi-contour seats may no longer exist and you will have to order them separately. Maybe they also watered down the M Sport package? I don't know - maybe someone more familiar with the Bimmer range can comment. I would also definitely recommend the DDC. It seems strange that there are so few in the United States. Here I would guess that 30-50% of F10s have this feature. I don't completely agree with your point of view on M-sport without DDC, it's just a matter of looks. The M-sport without DDC comes with a different M-sport suspension from non-M cars. So the M-sport option gives you a car with better handling even without the DDC.
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| bastet (300hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Silververtu Thank you for your comments. I ordered a MY13 with M sport + DDC but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra $1000. None of the dealers in my city have DDC on their cars, so I haven't had a chance to try it. DDC is not part of the M Sports Pack for MY13. I think it's a good expense. You will have no regrets, especially since it only represents a small proportion of the total expense. Quote: Posted by Boss330 I don't completely agree with your point of view on M-sport without DDC, it's just a matter of looks. The M-sport without DDC comes with a different M-sport suspension from non-M cars. So the M-sport option gives you a car with better handling even without the DDC. I'm happy to be corrected. I've tried to be open about my relative ignorance regarding the plethora of options and variants available from BMW. I agree that improving the suspension (springs, shock absorbers, etc.) is a very important way to improve the ride, even without the latest electronic improvements..
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| 11eleven (48hp) | Let me intervene. I just purchased a 2013 535i with M-sport. The 2013 model year is the first time in the United States that you can get the M-sport suspension with the F10. I have driven MANY F10 5 series since it came out since I worked for BMW. The handling of the 2013 5 Series with M-sport package with just the M-sport tuned suspension is incredible1. It's smooth on the road, but cornering is stable and precise with VERY little body roll. I'm glad they finally made it the standard suspension for the M-sports package, because that's what the F10 really needed. It is 10mm lower than standard standard suspension or the DDC or Dynamic handling pack. For those who thought the 5 Series had become too soft with the F10 redesign, the way to go is to get the M-sports package and not the Dynamic Handling Package or DDC..
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