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| grandpa2 (610hp) | I have an F11 that was built in October of this year (I don't know what week, but it was week 40 at the earliest). When I plug the iPhone 4 into the USB socket using the usual white cable provided, some functions of the phone freeze and the car does not recognize the phone. The dealer told me I needed a Y-cable which cost £40. When using this cable, the car reports that the phone is not compatible. I know support for iPhone 4 isn't available yet, but surely there must be a way to play music stored on the phone.?
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| veronika1 (878hp) | ok...I'll bite...Extended air conditioning features....what are these features as it was never said in the brochure?? Also - removing the model - it's funny, I didn't bother to check this option on my 330i,o)
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| jamaica2 (169hp) | Do you have the 6FL 'USB Audio Interface' option in your vehicle? This is not standard on the UK 520d SE for example. Maybe others can advise me...
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| 20061977 (894hp) | Extended climate control gives you dual control with timing and maximum cooling buttons, anti-fog and solar sensors and prettier buttons! The 520D badge gives you the right to smugly salute hybrid and electric car owners
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| fishing3 (544hp) | Quote: Originally posted by sundance Do you have the 6FL “USB audio interface” option in your vehicle? This is not standard on the UK 520d SE for example. Maybe others can advise me... Yes, I have the USB audio interface. This is what I plugged the iPhone into.
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| diana11 (519hp) | Mani, sorry for the joke of the show, could not resist. I agree with James' advice, especially comfort seats are essential.
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| mydaddy (203hp) | My Iphone4 works well with the standard white cable and I can listen to all the music stored on the phone. . My car is built week 39. I believe only cars built before September need a Y cable..
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| 101177 (984hp) | Quote: Originally posted by James d I warned you... there you go. Rearview camera-bin it Seats-upgrade to split/folding comfort seats-must have model designation removed-fine on a 550, but on a 520D SE-Pretentious, Me? Air conditioning - Extended functionality - worth it Anthracite headlining - who's looking up there? Any food for thought? Today’s post, hands down
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| hamanncheese (238hp) | The harvest is correct. Return the Y cable and use the white cable that came with your iPhone. The cable is probably the cause of your problem.
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| cbr1000 (751hp) | ok, so the E92 330i was due back in March and with a new baby, I needed something more family friendly and economical... so, I ordered: F10 520d SE 6 speed manual Oyster space gray / black interior 18 alloys black ambient sky Lighting Sun protection glass Xenon headlights (essential - first option I checked) Electric memory seats (standard on my current car, so now essential, o) Sports seats (essential - although debated long and hard on comfort versus sport) Automatic trunk lid (total indulgence) Reversing camera (a bit of indulgence) USB and heated front seats (now standard in the f10) I had struggled to give up some of these options for professional navigation, but I couldn't justify it based on how often I need a sat nav and the other options that I really wished. Apparently scheduled for mid-April. It will be quite different to my current car, but I'm looking forward to a change and I think the F10 is a great car, plus it's a bit of an interim car - I'll only have the F10 for 2 years and I think I might upgrade to the F11 or a new 3 Series after that (I didn't want to order another 3er if it was replaced this year). Then the wait begins...!
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| 93mikemike (584hp) | Thanks Harvest and kscarrol. My wife tried the white cable with her phone and it didn't work. I'll try it with my own phone. What to do once the phone is plugged in? Do you need to access a particular iDrive menu? Also, does the white cable charge the phone ??
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| missy8 (882hp) | Wow... nice order man... very very nice! The F10 is beautiful... every time I see one on the road I wonder.
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| 240286 (349hp) | I recently had a 750Li demo and we were able to play music from my iPhone 4 via Bluetooth. With the new combox upgrades, the f10 should have the same capacity.
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| 197929 (313hp) | Very nice! I have the sports seats and they are very good, but as you go for the memory option it's just another Ј375 to get the comfort seats, worth it in my opinion. I would also opt for the sports steering wheel at €110, much nicer than the standard steering wheel. Oyster/Black is very nice too
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| jesus15 (770hp) | Works perfectly with my iPhone 4 - seamless integration, album art, playlists, etc. You need to select CD/DVD, then external devices, you should see your iPhone with the USB symbol. Select it and you will see the usual criteria for the iPhone category. Some very bad photos attached
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| dasha123 (542hp) | Fabulous, but totally agree with the E61 regarding comfort seats and steering wheel. I would also add folding mirrors to a small indulgence column, Pro Hifi to the full column but remove the reversing camera as the F/R sensors do a good job..
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| lilone13 (304hp) | Thank you so much! I'm going to try it this evening.
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| annalyn (237hp) | if you need a little practicality, ditch the automatic trunk lid or rear view camera in favor of split folding seats....yes, it's amazing, a car at this price has no seats split folding rears as standard and if you're not going F11 yet, the split folding option gives you some practicality at least for the odd occasion where you need to carry larger loads if it was on both that I would do without the camera, a bit of a gadget, works well but the sensors do a good job as the last poster declared.
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| kevinn (497hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Krell Thanks Harvest and Kscarrol. My wife tried the white cable with her phone and it didn't work. I'll try it with my own phone. What to do once the phone is plugged in? Do you need to access a particular iDrive menu? Additionally, does the white cable charge the phone? It will be located under CD/Multimedia then under external devices. Your iPhone will appear with the name you gave it...
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| 28021983 (838hp) | Pro Nav is really a must in my opinion makes the car!
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| 231288 (722hp) | And you can also listen to music via Bluetooth Streaming. Your iPhone 4 doesn't need to be plugged in at all! Forget cables/USB....
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| yeller (134hp) | Congratulations on your order, the wait will eventually pass and you can enjoy your new F10!
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| r00ts (176hp) | How to do it via Bluetooth streaming?
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| money1000 (949hp) | Quote: Originally posted by James d Fab, but totally agree with E61 regarding comfort seats and steering wheel. I would also add folding mirrors to the bit of an indulgence column, Pro Hifi to the full column but remove the reversing camera as F/R The sensors do a good job. good point... I forgot to include "Sport steering wheel" in the list. The test car had it and thought it looked much nicer than the standard item. I also debated the pro stereo, but after reading many reviews it seemed like the standard item was okay (and better than the crappy one in my current car anyway). Folding mirrors...not sure I'll use them as the car is rarely parked in a garage/on the street. Okay with the comfortable seats...it was very close, but since I had a lot of other options, I decided not to go all the way. The trunk lid was one of those things...basically I was thinking about the split-folding rear seats (which I think is amazing because it's not standard), but in two years it m cost an extra £280. However, I could pay for the delivery of the few items I might need to transport. On the other hand, €280 didn't seem like enough to pay for someone to stand up and open and close my trunk on demand, o)
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| vatoloco1 (366hp) | Quote: Originally posted by nosnoop And you can also listen to music via Bluetooth streaming. Your iPhone 4 doesn't need to be plugged in at all! Forget USB cables... Then I stream music via Bluetooth, I can't see any playlists, song titles are only possible to toggle forward or backward, is this true or is it something something wrong with my bluetooth connection ??.
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| hitler88 (977hp) | The BMW Professional Speaker Pack hifi upgrade (400 GBP odd I think) is worth it IMHO if you don't want to stretch out for the professional upgrade. I have the professional stereo in my f11 and am very happy with the sound quality at all volume levels. for me it was much better than the standard setup for the type of music I play. if you mainly listen to talk radio programs it would be good or if you don't like to turn up your music I have already had two E60's, one with standard audio and one with a professional hi-fi and the car in which I didn't have it I always regretted it so this time I didn't make the same mistake, one of the first options that I checked as it should.
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| 781020 (700hp) | Yes, I get the same thing with my iPhone 3GS. I think the car behaves like a Bluetooth headset and the phone doesn't send album art or track titles over Bluetooth.
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| pookie13 (916hp) | Great choices there. The sports steering wheel is a no-brainer for the price in my opinion, especially in combination with a sports automatic gearbox - but if you prefer a manual, that's good too! I ordered just over 2 weeks ago and have been out for 10 weeks with a collection estimate of April 15th.
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| beats1 (373hp) | Quote: Originally posted by tdjwt How to do it via Bluetooth streaming? Media CD *press button* Bluetooth (audio) *press button* Your iphone *right arrow* configure unit *press button* check audio then ok and it will work. My idrive is in Swedish mode but here are some photos.
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| marcos1 (166hp) | quick update: my estimated delivery is April 22...that seems far away..! Any suggestions on how to get through the wait? (already downloaded the manual from the US site,o)
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| kor (354hp) | I tried it last night and it worked perfectly! Thanks for all your help.
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| minh123 (755hp) | How about giving us your final specs after all our advice...then we can all tell you where you went wrong and you can tear your hair out/call your dealer to see if it's too late to change the specifications.!
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| fuckstick (468hp) | @Harvest: Does this only work with the 520's standard Bluetooth or does it require one of the other options? Simon
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| afbic (677hp) | Sun protection glass? You are in England!
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| lton (895hp) | *New member, first post* I have a September 520d version without any smartphone integration and without standard iDrive Nav and I am able to play music from my iphone 3gs via Bluetooth but am unable to skip tracks or see song titles, etc...
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| 220790 (455hp) | It's a low blow! Mainly from the sub-Saharan Netherlands.
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| 180878 (573hp) | oooohh... I might try that then, well done buddy. All control is done via phone, the integration allows the use of BMW on-board controls. Simon
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| redfred (835hp) | Quote: Posted by james d How about you give us your final specs after all our advice... then we can all tell you where you went wrong and you can tear your hair out/call your dealer to see if it's is the case. too late to change specs! +1
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| 19101910 (621hp) | Has anyone gotten this to work with iPhone 4 and F11? I just received my 520d F11 from my dealer and have completed all the steps above. I have the option to choose BMW or iPhone but there is no sound when choosing BMW.
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| fellowes (168hp) | ok, ok, so the sun protection glass was more 'cosmetic' than 'functional' for the UK..... ,o) the option I think I made a mistake on was ordering a reversing camera rather than upgrading memory sports seats until they are full. comfort seats... hmmm, I wonder if it's too late...! The other was split folding rear seats. Suppose the trunk is big enough? Should I change this? Damn it! Maybe I should go back to the dealership.....
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| familia123 (811hp) | I bought a cable and connected the iPhone. It worked with poor audio quality. However, by doing this it seemed like I had enabled the auxiliary input and the Bluetooth audio was now working. With good audio quality.
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| fedorov (738hp) | and final specs so we're clear: 520d SE 6MT Space Gray Oyster Black 255 Lthr 3-spoke 2K2 18-inch light alloy V-spoke sports steering wheel 316 Automatic trunk lid operation 320 Deletion of model designation Rear view camera reversing assistance 3AG Windshield 3AP Gray shading strip 459 Front seat Adjustment + Dr Memry selection 481 Sports front seats + partial adjustment Ambient interior lighting 4UR 522 Xenon headlights for low/high beam 761 Sun protection glass (aka anti-glare glass against snow and rain for the UK market) 775 Headlining anthracite
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| Type11 (766hp) | I'm expecting my F10 (with professional media package among the options), in the next 2 weeks. I'm just wondering if support for iPhone4 is available yet, as I prefer the idea of click and play rather than messing with white wires etc.?
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| sparkie (507hp) | I warned you... here it is. Backup camera - bin it Seats - upgrade to split/folding comfort seats - must have model designation removed - fine on a 550, but on a 520D SE - Pretentious, Me? Air conditioning - Extended functionality - worth it Anthracite headlining - who's looking up there? Food for thought?
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| alexander6 (491hp) | ok...I'll bite...Extended air conditioning features....what are these features as it was never said in the brochure?? Also - removing the model - it's funny, I didn't bother to check this option on my 330i,o)
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| alex83 (672hp) | Extended climate control gives you dual control with timing and maximum cooling buttons, anti-fog and solar sensors and prettier buttons! The 520D badge gives you the right to smugly salute hybrid and electric car owners
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| howdy123 (422hp) | Mani, sorry for the joke of the show, could not resist. I agree with James' advice, especially comfort seats are essential.
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| giuseppe1 (300hp) | Quote: Originally posted by James d I warned you... there you go. Rearview camera-bin it Seats-upgrade to split/folding comfort seats-must have model designation removed-fine on a 550, but on a 520D SE-Pretentious, Me? Air conditioning - Extended functionality - worth it Anthracite headlining - who's looking up there? Any food for thought? Today’s post, hands down
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| olegv (410hp) | guys that have the aluminum hex trim - how has it stood the test of time (as small as it is), does it scratch easily? Is it dirty and difficult to clean? These little directionally brushed hexagonal shapes can capture dirt (I think) and require God knows what to clean. I'm about to buy a 535ix m sport with aluminum trim next week. I have already spoken with the dealer and they will replace the trim if I choose to do so based on everything I tell them. But... dark wood trim is magnets against dust and fingerprints AND you can see micro-scratches on it since it's new. I'm also not a fan of clear ash...so the dilemma is: which trim to choose...Aluminum looks cool and I want to make sure it won't drive me crazy because it gets dirty or will have deep scratches on it. anyone who has experience with aluminum and other trims please chime in.
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| montenegro (234hp) | I had it on my previous car (series 1) and there was no mark on it after three years. I don't think I ever needed to clean it. The F10 trim looks even more robust - it appears to be coated in some sort of lacquer rather than being bare metal. It's definitely softer to the touch than the Series 1. I highly doubt you'll have any issues with that.
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| 25061994 (86hp) | I echo what the last poster said. I had the same trim in an E60 and it was very durable. Showed no signs of wear during the 50,000 miles I had with it. In my F11 I have the same trim and was considering getting anthracite wood (similar in the latest car, E92), but I stuck with hexagonal trim and I must say it is much better quality than the E60 variant and it looks very durable. I have a 6 month old boy to transport and was concerned that over time the glossy finish of the wood trim options would develop scratches and swirl marks. The end of day car comes with the default hex, so live with it first and if you want to change later you can
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| 28101984 (234hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Northernmonkey I had the same trim in an E60 and it was very durable. Showed no signs of wear during the 50,000 miles I had it with it. We really can't compare the two versions. The e60 had the aluminum trip without structure, while the hexagonal aluminum trim (in the f10) has a soft structure. You really can't go wrong with the aluminum hex trim. I don't see how an m-sport works with the wood trim. I would stick with it and enjoy it. It's definitely something different from what you see on other cars!
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| titotito (863hp) | thanks for all the answers guys. I'm going to go back to the dealer today and take another look at the trim..
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| beepbeep1 (708hp) | All right. I just got back from the dealership. I went to take another look. I loved the aluminum trim this time. And looking at the wood trim, all I saw were fingerprints, dust and scratches. It would have driven me crazy to get my car this week then. November construction. 535 ix dark graphite Black leather. M sport, executive and technology packs. Heated rear seats too. My third 5 series (520 E34 sold. 540 E39 sold) First new BMW and first automatic transexual. My other two were textbooks. !!!!!!!!!
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| tanmay (449hp) | Why did you decide to opt for a car and not a manual transmission? Have you considered Carbon Black which is exclusive to M-sport only? by the way, congratulations on your order!
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| butchie1 (241hp) | Quote: Posted by delvek Why did you decide to opt for a car and not a manual? Have you considered Carbon Black which is exclusive to M-sport only? by the way, congratulations on your order! 1. self - maybe because I'm getting older, I'm 39. I hope I won't regret buying a car. I can always go back and stick to my next car. maybe 550ix manual in 3 years when the lease on this one is up. 2. I didn't consider high maintenance colors. I need my car to always look good and it's too hard to keep carbon black and other black cars looking spotless. the swirl marks would drive me crazy. switching from my Tit Silver E39 540 to dark graphite is already a big step. I have a little more time now to take care of the car... but I still don't want to wax it every weekend. 3. and thank you... can't wait. I'm picking it up this Friday morning
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| ihatelife1 (197hp) | guys that have the aluminum hex trim - how has it stood the test of time (as small as it is), does it scratch easily? Is it dirty and difficult to clean? These little directionally brushed hexagonal shapes can capture dirt (I think) and require God knows what to clean. I'm about to buy a 535ix m sport with aluminum trim next week. I have already spoken with the dealer and they will replace the trim if I choose to do so based on everything I tell them. But... dark wood trim is magnets against dust and fingerprints AND you can see micro-scratches on it since it's new. I'm also not a fan of clear ash...so the dilemma is: which trim to choose...Aluminum looks cool and I want to make sure it won't drive me crazy because it gets dirty or will have deep scratches on it. anyone who has experience with aluminum and other trims please chime in.
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| sexkitten (659hp) | I had it on my previous car (series 1) and there was no mark on it after three years. I don't think I ever needed to clean it. The F10 trim looks even more robust - it appears to be coated in some sort of lacquer rather than being bare metal. It's definitely softer to the touch than the Series 1. I highly doubt you'll have any issues with that.
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| zxc456 (889hp) | I echo what the last poster said. I had the same trim in an E60 and it was very durable. Showed no signs of wear during the 50,000 miles I had with it. In my F11 I have the same trim and was considering getting anthracite wood (similar in the latest car, E92), but I stuck with hexagonal trim and I must say it is much better quality than the E60 variant and it looks very durable. I have a 6 month old boy to transport and was concerned that over time the glossy finish of the wood trim options would develop scratches and swirl marks. The end of day car comes with the default hex, so live with it first and if you want to change later you can
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| 69qd5CgxhU (36hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Northernmonkey I had the same trim in an E60 and it was very durable. Showed no signs of wear during the 50,000 miles I had with it. We really can't compare the two versions. The e60 had the aluminum trip without structure, while the hexagonal aluminum trim (in the f10) has a soft structure. You really can't go wrong with the aluminum hex trim. I don't see how an m-sport works with the wood trim. I would stick with it and enjoy it. It's definitely something different from what you see on other cars!
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| rayquaza (41hp) | thanks for all the answers guys. I'm going to go back to the dealer today and take another look at the trim..
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| junior18 (575hp) | All right. I just got back from the dealership. I went to take another look. I loved the aluminum trim this time. And looking at the wood trim, all I saw were fingerprints, dust and scratches. It would have driven me crazy to get my car this week then. November construction. 535 ix dark graphite Black leather. M sport, executive and technology packs. Heated rear seats too. My third 5 series (520 E34 sold. 540 E39 sold) First new BMW and first automatic transexual. My other two were textbooks. !!!!!!!!!
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| morbid1 (478hp) | Why did you decide to opt for a car rather than a manual transmission? Have you considered Carbon Black which is exclusive to M-sport only? by the way, congratulations on your order!
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| 01031989 (255hp) | Quote: Posted by delvek Why did you decide to opt for a car and not a manual? Have you considered Carbon Black which is exclusive to M-sport only? by the way, congratulations on your order! 1. self - maybe because I'm getting older, I'm 39. I hope I won't regret buying a car. I can always go back and stick to my next car. maybe 550ix manual in 3 years when the lease on this one is up. 2. I didn't consider high maintenance colors. I need my car to always look good and it's too hard to keep carbon black and other black cars looking spotless. the swirl marks would drive me crazy. switching from my Tit Silver E39 540 to dark graphite is already a big step. I have a little more time now to take care of the car... but I still don't want to wax it every weekend. 3. and thank you... can't wait. I'm picking it up this Friday morning
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| petula (303hp) | In all my previous BMWs there was always the option to include side airbags for the rear passengers. For the F10, no such option exists... I assumed they were the standard these days. But when I checked it is not included and there is no option to select it. What's the problem here?
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| djjohnnyv2 (473hp) | Quote: Originally posted by GGPlena In all my previous BMWs there was always the option to include side airbags for the rear passengers. For the F10, no such option exists... I assumed they were the standard these days. But when I checked it is not included and there is no option to select it. What's the problem here? It's likely that BMW hasn't received many orders for the E60. They try to sell sexier safety features like lane departure warning etc. It's really sad. I don't even think the F10's rear seat is equipped with seat belt tensioners and relaxers, which is extremely important for older children who no longer use a child seat or cushion. There have been accidents in which the people in the front survived serious frontal impacts, but the passengers in the back died without visible injuries. I'm not talking specifically about BMW now. As far as I know MB, Audi and Lexus all have rear side airbags and proper rear seat belts. As standard or optional.
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| nigga4life (676hp) | It really sucks! Should have been mentioned by Euro Ncap...
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| yzerman (231hp) | I think the F10 has a side curtain airbag which replaces a lot of the functionality..
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| General (108hp) | Quote: Originally posted by LuvMyE92 I think the F10 has a side curtain airbag which replaces a lot of the functionality. Yes, the F10 has side curtains going all the way to the rear seat, just like the E60. But the curtains are used to protect the head and neck and the side airbags protect the torso and pelvis...
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| 02121983 (263hp) | Standard.......! I know this for sure because I saw them myself two weeks ago.
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| 161277 (842hp) | Quote: Originally published by mspeasl Standard.........! I know this for sure since I saw them myself two weeks ago. It's not mentioned in the specs. for the F10... It is written however: Side airbags for the driver and front passenger
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| mommy#1 (505hp) | Rear side airbags are potentially dangerous if they come into contact with young children seated in the rear. I guess this problem led BMW to abandon this option. I purchased the option on my 2008 535xi only to find out much later that even though the factory installed the option, BMW did not activate the bags until delivery. Dealers were responsible for activation - at the customer's request and, in my case, only after I signed a document informing me of the dangers the bags posed to young children and that I still wanted them activated , at any rate. (We no longer had young children and it wasn't a problem for me.)
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| moonstone (792hp) | Quote: Posted by GGPlena It is not mentioned in the specifications. for the F10... It says though: Side airbags for driver and front passenger Enlarge the image and take a look at the rear window...............
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| aleks1 (395hp) | Pretty
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| peanut99 (571hp) | This is just a thumbnail, could you please provide a link to a larger version!?
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| cool99 (548hp) | Looking at this image (from Euroncap) I don't see any airbags coming from the head curtain... This article has some decent photos of a crashed f10... http://rumors.automobilemag.com/iihs.. .choose-4059.html
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| 290980 (690hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jsf1993 Rear side airbags are potentially dangerous if they come into contact with young children seated in the rear. I guess this problem led BMW to abandon this option. I purchased the option on my 2008 535xi only to find out much later that even though the factory installed the option, BMW did not activate the bags until delivery. Dealers were responsible for activation - at the customer's request and, in my case, only after I signed a document informing me of the dangers the bags posed to young children and that I still wanted them activated , at any rate. (We no longer had young children and it wasn't a problem for me.) I read a research paper on side airbags and children. The conclusion was that it is better for the child to be hit by the airbag than by the door..
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| morelia (439hp) | Quote: Originally posted by mspeasl Enlarge the image and take a look at the rear window............... Yes, that looks like the head curtain, which is different from the side airbag....
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| cacapipi (141hp) | Quote: Posted by gorban Quote: Posted by jsf1993 Rear side airbags are potentially dangerous if they come into contact with young children seated in the rear. I guess this problem led BMW to abandon this option. I purchased the option on my 2008 535xi only to find out much later that even though the factory installed the option, BMW did not activate the bags until delivery. Dealers were responsible for activation - at the customer's request and, in my case, only after I signed a document informing me of the dangers the bags posed to young children and that I still wanted them activated , at any rate. (We no longer had young children and it wasn't a problem for me.) I read a research paper on side airbags and children. The conclusion was that it is better for the child to be hit by the airbag than by the door. Interesting...your research comment goes against what I have seen and read, especially for very young children/infants. But I haven't looked into this recently (for 3-4 years, since I bought my 2008 BMW 535 xi with rear airbag option). If you saw something online, please provide the link. My daughter had her first baby 6 months ago and in her childbirth class they warned about rear side airbags. Also, my 2008 BMW had bright red stickers on the interior door panel (only visible when the door was open...near the lock) that said, this car has rear side airbags which can pose a danger for young children.
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| 18081990 (430hp) | Quote: Originally posted by GGPlena This is just a thumbnail, could you please provide a link to a larger version!? As you requested
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| poolroom (146hp) | THANKS! It's not a side airbag. This is the head curtain.
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| napoli1 (617hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jsf1993 Interesting....your research comment goes against what I have seen and read, especially for very young children/infants. But I haven't looked into this recently (for 3-4 years, since I bought my 2008 BMW 535 xi with rear airbag option). If you saw something online, please provide the link. My daughter had her first baby 6 months ago and in her childbirth class they warned about rear side airbags. Also, my 2008 BMW had bright red stickers on the interior door panel (only visible when the door was open...near the lock) that said, this car has rear side airbags which can pose a danger for young children. There are different cultures around car and child safety in different countries. The report I was referring to was sponsored by one of Sweden's leading insurance companies, well known for its research into real-life accidents. In Sweden, the general advice from authorities and insurance companies is that children should be seated rear-facing until at least 4 years old. And here you will find child seats that make this possible. The situation is totally different in the rest of Europe and I imagine also in the United States. I wouldn't say everyone is wrong, but I can see the logic of being upside down when the accident happens..
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| stevej2001 (844hp) | 4 rear-facing... my boy would have snacked on his knees at that age.
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| 181987 (570hp) | In all my previous BMWs there was always the option to include side airbags for the rear passengers. For the F10, no such option exists... I assumed they were the standard these days. But when I checked it is not included and there is no option to select it. What's the problem here?
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| 080493 (249hp) | Quote: Originally posted by GGPlena In all my previous BMWs there was always the option to include side airbags for the rear passengers. For the F10, no such option exists... I assumed they were the standard these days. But when I checked it is not included and there is no option to select it. What's the problem here? It's likely that BMW hasn't received many orders for the E60. They try to sell sexier safety features like lane departure warning etc. It's really sad. I don't even think the F10's rear seat is equipped with seat belt tensioners and relaxers, which is extremely important for older children who no longer use a child seat or cushion. There have been accidents in which the people in the front survived serious frontal impacts, but the passengers in the back died without visible injuries. I'm not talking specifically about BMW now. As far as I know MB, Audi and Lexus all have rear side airbags and proper rear seat belts. As standard or optional.
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| enrico1 (399hp) | It really sucks! Should have been mentioned by Euro Ncap...
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| scorpio9 (790hp) | I think the F10 has a side curtain airbag which replaces a lot of the functionality..
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| scheneider (730hp) | Quote: Originally posted by LuvMyE92 I think the F10 has a side curtain airbag which replaces a lot of the functionality. Yes, the F10 has side curtains going all the way to the rear seat, just like the E60. But the curtains are used to protect the head and neck and the side airbags protect the torso and pelvis...
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| antihero (53hp) | Standard.......! I know this for sure because I saw them myself two weeks ago.
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| billowusu (295hp) | Quote: Originally published by mspeasl Standard.........! I know this for sure since I saw them myself two weeks ago. It's not mentioned in the specs. for the F10... It is written however: Side airbags for the driver and front passenger
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| boston13 (853hp) | Rear side airbags are potentially dangerous if they come into contact with young children seated in the rear. I guess this problem led BMW to abandon this option. I purchased the option on my 2008 535xi only to find out much later that even though the factory installed the option, BMW did not activate the bags until delivery. Dealers were responsible for activation - at the customer's request and, in my case, only after I signed a document informing me of the dangers the bags posed to young children and that I still wanted them activated , at any rate. (We no longer had young children and it wasn't a problem for me.)
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| swe (930hp) | Quote: Posted by GGPlena It is not mentioned in the specifications. for the F10... It says though: Side airbags for driver and front passenger Enlarge the image and take a look at the rear window...............
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| dragons11 (125hp) | Pretty
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| 09110911 (717hp) | This is just a thumbnail, could you please provide a link to a larger version!?
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| 337733 (516hp) | Looking at this image (from Euroncap) I don't see any airbags coming from the head curtain... This article has some decent photos of a crashed f10... http://rumors.automobilemag.com/iihs.. .choose-4059.html
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| february2 (516hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jsf1993 Rear side airbags are potentially dangerous if they come into contact with young children seated in the rear. I guess this problem led BMW to abandon this option. I purchased the option on my 2008 535xi only to find out much later that even though the factory installed the option, BMW did not activate the bags until delivery. Dealers were responsible for activation - at the customer's request and, in my case, only after I signed a document informing me of the dangers the bags posed to young children and that I still wanted them activated , at any rate. (We no longer had young children and it wasn't a problem for me.) I read a research paper on side airbags and children. The conclusion was that it is better for the child to be hit by the airbag than by the door..
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| king06 (925hp) | Quote: Originally posted by mspeasl Enlarge the image and take a look at the rear window............... Yes, that looks like the head curtain, which is different from the side airbag....
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| fas (520hp) | Quote: Posted by gorban Quote: Posted by jsf1993 Rear side airbags are potentially dangerous if they come into contact with young children seated in the rear. I guess this problem led BMW to abandon this option. I purchased the option on my 2008 535xi only to find out much later that even though the factory installed the option, BMW did not activate the bags until delivery. Dealers were responsible for activation - at the customer's request and, in my case, only after I signed a document informing me of the dangers the bags posed to young children and that I still wanted them activated , at any rate. (We no longer had young children and it wasn't a problem for me.) I read a research paper on side airbags and children. The conclusion was that it is better for the child to be hit by the airbag than by the door. Interesting...your research comment goes against what I have seen and read, especially for very young children/infants. But I haven't looked into this recently (for 3-4 years, since I bought my 2008 BMW 535 xi with rear airbag option). If you saw something online, please provide the link. My daughter had her first baby 6 months ago and in her childbirth class they warned about rear side airbags. Also, my 2008 BMW had bright red stickers on the interior door panel (only visible when the door was open...near the lock) that said, this car has rear side airbags which can pose a danger for young children.
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| motivation (991hp) | Quote: Originally posted by GGPlena This is just a thumbnail, could you please provide a link to a larger version!? As you requested
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| 9293709b13 (657hp) | THANKS! It's not a side airbag. This is the head curtain.
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| 15031984 (752hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jsf1993 Interesting....your research comment goes against what I have seen and read, especially for very young children/infants. But I haven't looked into this recently (for 3-4 years, since I bought my 2008 BMW 535 xi with rear airbag option). If you saw something online, please provide the link. My daughter had her first baby 6 months ago and in her childbirth class they warned about rear side airbags. Also, my 2008 BMW had bright red stickers on the interior door panel (only visible when the door was open...near the lock) that said, this car has rear side airbags which can pose a danger for young children. There are different cultures around car and child safety in different countries. The report I was referring to was sponsored by one of Sweden's leading insurance companies, well known for its research into real-life accidents. In Sweden, the general advice from authorities and insurance companies is that children should be seated rear-facing until at least 4 years old. And here you will find child seats that make this possible. The situation is totally different in the rest of Europe and I imagine also in the United States. I wouldn't say everyone is wrong, but I can see the logic of being upside down when the accident happens..
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| lollollol1 (966hp) | 4 rear-facing... my boy would have snacked on his knees at that age.
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| Chims (331hp) | Well, I agree with you on the X5, because now we're talking about a 5,000 lb AWD vehicle. The F10 is over 1,000 pounds lighter and you don't need to get them with power-sucking 4WD systems either..
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| c41 (662hp) | I had a 335xi e92, I traded it for a 2011 528i. I have no regrets, I'm done with BMW turbos. Power is good, in fact it seems to have more pulling power than my e.92...
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| 1q1a1z (626hp) | For the X5, a diesel is undoubtedly the best engine. After all, it's a truck.
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| DLerner (25hp) | Won't BMW keep the 3.0 I6 with a power increase like a 530i?
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| jirafa (487hp) | Well, I agree with you on the X5, because now we're talking about a 5,000 lb AWD vehicle. The F10 is over 1,000 pounds lighter and you don't need to equip it with power-sucking 4WD systems either..
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| 19861025 (901hp) | I had a 335xi e92, I traded it for a 2011 528i. I have no regrets, I'm done with BMW turbos. Power is good, in fact it seems to have more pulling power than my e.92...
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| hope1234 (401hp) | For the X5, a diesel is undoubtedly the best engine. After all, it's a truck.
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| tootoo (975hp) | Won't BMW keep the 3.0 I6 with a power increase like a 530i?
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| mercedez1 (593hp) | gentle ride...
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| wilkinson (965hp) | gentle ride...
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| rtyfgh (920hp) | Hi, in car, does the Navi Pro Hdd system include a USB port to convert music that we can use rather than a port to connect an iPod? (using original Apple cable) Rafal
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| 03121982 (151hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Headspun I'm expecting my F10 (with a pro media package as an option), in the next 2 weeks. I'm just wondering if support for iPhone4 is available yet, as I prefer the idea of click and play rather than messing with white wires etc. ? Yes. iPhone 4 support is now available. There are 3 different versions. You will need the “music” version. They also offer Basic and Media Basic does not support any music. Media is aimed at cars with the new 6nr option of 3/2011
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| getjob (863hp) | Quote: Posted by Rafi_Q7 Hello, In the car, does the Navi Pro Hdd system include a USB port to convert music that we can use rather than a port to connect an iPod? (using the original Apple cable) Rafal No, the USB port is only for exporting/importing data from the car's internal hard drive.
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| VMRWheels (955hp) | Hello, I need to check using a standard Apple Dock cable or I will try adding an iPod interface to the fiber circuit. Rafal
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| tyler18 (444hp) | Hi, in car, does the Navi Pro Hdd system include a USB port to convert music that we can use rather than a port to connect an iPod? (using original Apple cable) Rafal
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| deathwish1 (291hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Headspun I'm expecting my F10 (with a pro media package as an option), in the next 2 weeks. I'm just wondering if support for iPhone4 is available yet, as I prefer the idea of click and play rather than messing with white wires etc. ? Yes. iPhone 4 support is now available. There are 3 different versions. You will need the “music” version. They also offer Basic and Media Basic does not support any music. Media is aimed at cars with the new 6nr option of 3/2011
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| reece (705hp) | Quote: Posted by Rafi_Q7 Hello, In the car, does the Navi Pro Hdd system include a USB port to convert music that we can use rather than a port to connect an iPod? (using the original Apple cable) Rafal No, the USB port is only for exporting/importing data from the car's internal hard drive..
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| seahawk (872hp) | Hello, I need to check using a standard Apple Dock cable or I will try adding an iPod interface to the fiber circuit. Rafal
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