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251087 (901hp) The reason I felt it was different this time is because when I got it back it had the problem but then slowly got used to it day by day... and by the end of the week I started , feel the good responsiveness and the smooth shifting. Anyway, I'll post and update something in a few weeks.

jovana (371hp) Duneman, I just got my car back from the dealer. They performed the same throttle and transmission resets on my car. They told me the same thing: the car will be sluggish for a few days and will adapt quickly. I'm also testing my car for the next few days.

868686 (46hp) Thanks RC... I suspect yours will adjust just like mine. The question is whether it will last. So please keep us updated...

filthy (989hp) Quote: Originally posted by RC3 Duneman, I just got my car back from the dealer. They performed the same throttle and transmission resets on my car. They told me the same thing: the car will be sluggish for a few days and will adapt quickly. I'm also testing my car for the next few days. Hello RC! I would be happy to receive an update on the transmission behavior! Cheers,

redwood1 (644hp) Quote: Originally written by DuneMan. Thanks RC... I suspect yours will adapt just like mine did. The question is whether it will last. So please keep us updated... Hello DuneMan! How many days have passed since the full reset? How does it behave? Cheers,

chicago2 (256hp) Quote: Originally posted by FrankyD Hello DuneMan! How many days have passed since the full reset? How does it behave? Cheers, not so good. It started to get sluggish again. Maybe BMW doesn't have a real solution to this problem yet. Some forum members said they replaced the transmission and finally solved the problem.

power9 (982hp) Quote: Originally posted by RC3 Duneman, I just got my car back from the dealer. They performed the same throttle and transmission resets on my car. They told me the same thing: the car will be sluggish for a few days and will adapt quickly. I'm also testing my car for the next few days. How is your RC???

p1mp1n (955hp) Quote: Originally written by DuneMan. Not so good. It started to get sluggish again. Maybe BMW doesn't have a real solution to this problem yet. Some forum members said they replaced the transmission and finally solved the problem. I think sluggish in D mode is fine, M/S mode might help... Is there still any stuttering at low speeds in D mode???

honda123 (98hp) Quote: Originally posted by DuneMan How is your RC? Yes, it's jerking again. And my wife complained that I had bad driving skills. Unlike others, mine only jerks in sport mode. Normal mode is very smooth. That's why I only use Sport mode when I'm driving alone to avoid the sag.

misericordia (325hp) Quote: Originally written by FrankyD. I think sluggish in D mode is fine, M/S mode might help... Is there still stuttering at low speeds in D mode?? Yes, even at low speeds in D mode the jerking is back. It's very discouraging

030185 (285hp) Quote: Originally written by RC3 Yes, it's jerking again. And my wife complained that I had bad driving skills. Unlike others, mine only jerks in sport mode. Normal mode is very smooth. That's why I only use Sport mode when I'm driving alone to avoid the sag. Thanks, I guess we're in the same boat.

cneltynrf (798hp) Quote: Originally written by DuneMan. Thanks, I think we're in the same boat. Wait....boat? You are intentionally describing the F10

asss (773hp) Quote: Originally written by DuneMan. Thanks, I think we're in the same boat. I remember my car shaking less after more miles. Maybe it's just wait and see. Check if it learns again after reloading the software.

evil123 (114hp) Does the 8-speed automatic start from 2nd gear in normal/comfort/driving mode? just like MB 7Gtronic in comfort/normal mode?

wanjiku (417hp) I'm looking for someone in the NY/NJ tri-state area who is knowledgeable about BMW audio retrofits. I would like to update my current system.

aztecs (902hp) Installing aftermarket speakers and amplifiers will give you a cheaper and better sounding system.

alicia22 (938hp) Quote: Originally posted by paul223 Installing aftermarket speakers and amplifiers will make the system cheaper and better sounding. I'm trying to keep it OEM. This is what I'm trying to do... https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1506984

brian08 (422hp) Quote: Originally written by pf10. I'm trying to keep it OEM. This is what I'm trying to do... https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1506984 Bavsound has speakers that are a direct replacement and they also have an amplifier. https://www.bavsound.com/Stage-One

funkymonkey (926hp) I'm looking for someone in the NY/NJ tri-state area who is knowledgeable about BMW audio retrofits. I would like to update my current system.

Mike Atkisson (641hp) Installing aftermarket speakers and amplifiers will give you a cheaper and better sounding system.

fender. (121hp) Quote: Originally posted by paul223 Installing aftermarket speakers and amplifiers will make the system cheaper and better sounding. I'm trying to keep it OEM. This is what I'm trying to do... https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1506984

pmw103 (81hp) Quote: Originally written by pf10. I'm trying to keep it OEM. This is what I'm trying to do... https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1506984 Bavsound has speakers that are a direct replacement and they also have an amplifier. https://www.bavsound.com/Stage-One

04081978 (504hp) Hello everyone. I just bought a black 2014 535 I x Drive. I've had it for a few days and love it! I'm going to have it tinted (35% all around) this week and paint the chrome in the bumpers and grill. Open to other minor external changes. Thank you![IMG][/IMG]

naruto15 (703hp) Welcome to the fold. This is a great place to learn more about your car, BMW, and simply interact with other enthusiasts. Clean car. I hope you enjoy every mile.

mcfly (934hp) Welcome!

alain1 (798hp) Welcome! clean car!

061290 (389hp) Welcome and congratulations on your F10!

020681 (730hp) Thank you everyone! Recommend everyone to paint or simply replace the grille??

wjsswj (990hp) Nice! Now remove the dealer logo that is stuck on the trunk lid!

emopunk1 (82hp) Quote: Originally written by BigKutta Beautiful! Now remove the dealer logo stuck on the trunk lid! The dealer logo has disappeared!

molchanova_tlt (147hp) Congratulations! Got my 2016 535d 3 weeks ago. I love it too, especially the fuel economy.

MontegoGoGoGo (862hp) Congratulations on a beautiful F10!

ghost666 (295hp) A warm hello from another new member from the other half of the world. If you dig a tunnel deep enough, you could hit me on the ground. XD

shawn13 (402hp) Congratulations! Post pictures when you're done tinting! I'm thinking about 35 or 55%. Thanks.

walking (472hp) Quote: Originally written by AWe90 Congratulations! Post pictures when you're done tinting! I'm thinking about 35 or 55%. Thanks. First wash of the new year and 35% tint all around!

7elephants (791hp) Black cars always look best straight after washing!

monkeybutt (185hp) Quote: Originally posted by .BMW. Black cars always look best straight after washing! Absolutely! I'll be replacing the grilles with gloss black and also having the chrome parts of the front and rear bumpers vinyl wrapped. Will share pictures afterwards!

Fly335dguy (447hp) Quote: Originally written by thomas.gamal Absolutely! I'll be replacing the grilles with gloss black and also having the chrome parts of the front and rear bumpers vinyl wrapped. Will share pictures later! Congratulations on your pickup! I definitely recommend glossy black double slats! We also recommend using the Shadowline trim kit for window trim

iluvu3 (261hp) Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal Absolutely! I'll be replacing the grilles with gloss black and also having the chrome parts of the front and rear bumpers vinyl wrapped. Will share pictures later! Congratulations on your pickup! I definitely recommend glossy black double slats! I also recommend using the Shadowline trim kit for the window trim. I purchased the individual slats and will have them installed this week (I couldn't get the chrome slats out myself when I tried).

sugar11 (379hp) Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal Absolutely! I'll be replacing the grilles with gloss black and also having the chrome parts of the front and rear bumpers vinyl wrapped. Will share pictures later! Congratulations on your pickup! I definitely recommend glossy black double slats! I also recommend using the Shadowline trim kit for the window trim. I purchased the individual slats and will have them installed this week (I couldn't get the chrome slats out myself when I tried). Does anyone know of a front bumper lip that I can add to this existing bumper??

15091995 (51hp) Welcome!!

kamil12 (84hp) Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal I purchased the individual slats and will have them installed this week (I couldn't get the chrome slats out myself when I tried). Rip that bitch!

anjing1 (555hp) Replace the side orange reflectors to match the color. And yes, just rip them out. Both my 2012 and 2015 535i came out easily with just a steady tug.

150382 (348hp) Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal Does anyone know of a front bumper lip that I can add to this existing bumper? According to the front spoiler I have, this fits years 11-16. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fibe...nxw:rk:47:pf:0 that means the Hamman style should also fit https://www.ebay.com/itm/ H-Style Car...scQ:rk:10:pf:0 that's pretty much everything! I checked to see if the Alpina would fit but it just shows 11-13'

precious7 (6hp) Hello everyone. I just bought a black 2014 535 I x Drive. I've had it for a few days and love it! I'm going to have it tinted (35% all around) this week and paint the chrome in the bumpers and grill. Open to other minor external changes. Thank you![IMG][/IMG]

akuo (178hp) Welcome to the fold. This is a great place to learn more about your car, BMW, and simply interact with other enthusiasts. Clean car. I hope you enjoy every mile.

020784 (398hp) Welcome!

reebok1 (153hp) Welcome! clean car!

iloveny1 (364hp) Welcome and congratulations on your F10!

addie1 (791hp) Thank you everyone! Recommend everyone to paint or simply replace the grille??

dmedina2 (438hp) Nice! Now remove the dealer logo that is stuck on the trunk lid!

30071982 (777hp) Quote: Originally written by BigKutta Beautiful! Now remove the dealer logo stuck on the trunk lid! The dealer logo has disappeared!

12e456 (712hp) Congratulations! Got my 2016 535d 3 weeks ago. I love it too, especially the fuel economy.

tinker8 (371hp) Congratulations on a beautiful F10!

28111992 (555hp) A warm hello from another new member from the other half of the world. If you dig a tunnel deep enough, you could hit me on the ground. XD

18021977 (275hp) Congratulations! Post pictures when you're done tinting! I'm thinking about 35 or 55%. Thanks.

ihateyou4 (780hp) Quote: Originally written by AWe90 Congratulations! Post pictures when you're done tinting! I'm thinking about 35 or 55%. Thanks. First wash of the new year and 35% tint all around!

limn (558hp) Black cars always look best straight after washing!

jimbob (864hp) Quote: Originally posted by .BMW. Black cars always look best straight after washing! Absolutely! I'll be replacing the grilles with gloss black and also having the chrome parts of the front and rear bumpers vinyl wrapped. Will share pictures afterwards!

020185 (278hp) Quote: Originally written by thomas.gamal Absolutely! I'll be replacing the grilles with gloss black and also having the chrome parts of the front and rear bumpers vinyl wrapped. Will share pictures later! Congratulations on your pickup! I definitely recommend glossy black double slats! We also recommend using the Shadowline trim kit for window trim

JGraciano122 (163hp) Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal Absolutely! I'm going to swap out the grilles for gloss black and also have the front and rear bumper chrome parts wrapped in vinyl. Will share pictures later! Congratulations on your pickup! I definitely recommend glossy black double slats! I also recommend using the Shadowline trim kit for the window trim. I purchased the individual slats and will have them installed this week (I couldn't get the chrome slats out myself when I tried).

juniors (494hp) Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal Absolutely! I'll be replacing the grilles with gloss black and also having the chrome parts of the front and rear bumpers vinyl wrapped. Will share pictures later! Congratulations on your pickup! I definitely recommend glossy black double slats! I also recommend using the Shadowline trim kit for the window trim. I purchased the individual slats and will have them installed this week (I couldn't get the chrome slats out myself when I tried). Does anyone know of a front bumper lip that I can add to this existing bumper??

bailee1 (38hp) Welcome!!

bdo (143hp) Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal I purchased the individual slats and will have them installed this week (I couldn't get the chrome slats out myself when I tried). Rip that bitch!

fktdnbyf (850hp) Replace the side orange reflectors to match the color. And yes, just rip them out. Both my 2012 and 2015 535i came out easily with just a steady tug.

marche (945hp) Quote: Originally posted by thomas.gamal Does anyone know of a front bumper lip that I can add to this existing bumper? According to the front spoiler I have, this fits years 11-16. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fibe...nxw:rk:47:pf:0 that means the Hamman style should also fit https://www.ebay.com/itm/ H-Style Car...scQ:rk:10:pf:0 that's pretty much everything! I checked to see if the Alpina would fit but it just shows 11-13'

09041979 (686hp) Hello guys, this is my first time experiencing this. The rear view mirror fell off when I got in the car. The metal that was supposed to be attached to the windshield has also come loose, which is still attached to the mirror arm. Who knows something about it please? Any ideas on the cost, how to fix it and where Thanks Sp

310393 (665hp) Quote: Originally posted by Sp123 Hi guys, this was the first time I experienced this when I heard it. The rearview mirror fell off when I got in the car. The metal that should have been glued to the windshield has also come loose and is still attached to the mirror arm. Does anyone know anything about this please. Any ideas on cost, how to fix it and where. Thanks, Sp. I don't know if this is available across the pond, but... https://rearviewmirrorglue.com/ Or: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rearview+m.. .&t=ffnt&ia=web

29 (253hp) You, sir, are the first to report a fallen rearview mirror!

patches11 (740hp) Aftermarket glass? They sell an adhesive to attach the part back to the windshield, but it doesn't work... You, my friend, need a new windshield.

tobago (800hp) Quote: Originally posted by NinetyEight740 Aftermarket glass? They sell an adhesive to attach the part back to the windshield, but it doesn't work... You, my friend, need a new windshield. The glue held it in place in the beginning, now it can happen again. The right glue and preparation are crucial.

e8 (74hp) Had it repaired by the glass company. The glue seems strong so far. Thank you for your advice

linda13 (65hp) Hello guys, this is my first time experiencing this. The rear view mirror fell off when I got in the car. The metal that was supposed to be attached to the windshield has also come loose, which is still attached to the mirror arm. Who knows something about it please? Any ideas on the cost, how to fix it and where Thanks Sp

mnbvc1 (831hp) Quote: Originally posted by Sp123 Hi guys, this was the first time I experienced this when I heard it. The rearview mirror fell off when I got in the car. The metal that should have been glued to the windshield has also come loose and is still attached to the mirror arm. Does anyone know anything about this please. Any ideas on cost, how to fix it and where. Thanks, Sp. I don't know if this is available across the pond, but... https://rearviewmirrorglue.com/ Or: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rearview+m.. .&t=ffnt&ia=web

sheridan1 (493hp) You, sir, are the first to report a fallen rearview mirror!

gerlinde (526hp) Aftermarket glass? They sell an adhesive to attach the part back to the windshield, but it doesn't work... You, my friend, need a new windshield.

198724 (826hp) Quote: Originally posted by NinetyEight740 Aftermarket glass? They sell an adhesive to attach the part back to the windshield, but it doesn't work... You, my friend, need a new windshield. The glue held it in place in the beginning, now it can happen again. The right glue and preparation are crucial.

atlantida (202hp) Had it repaired by the glass company. The glue seems strong so far. Thank you for your advice

alibek (155hp) Quote: Originally posted by agentorange Interesting. According to the links on this website, there is no top tier diesel within 100 miles of Las Vegas. The closest one is in St. George, Utah. I wonder what the Shell and Chevron gas stations around the corner would say. Just because their petrol is top tier doesn't mean their diesel is too.

120380 (197hp) Quote: Originally written by ezaircon4jc Just because their gas is top tier doesn't mean their diesel is too. So it seems. Triggers Google Fu looking for diesel additives that might help.

princess83 (161hp) Quote: Originally posted by agentorange So it seems. Triggers Google Fu looking for diesel additives that might help. Dumbest argument you want to make about Walmart and Sam's Club gas lol. I guess I better stop using Sam's Club gas because it will kill my engine and I better turn to Mobil or Shell...please!!!

nixon1 (387hp) Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg. Dumbest argument you want to make about Walmart and Sam's Club gas lol. I guess I better stop using Sam's Club gas because it will kill my engine and I better turn to Mobil or Shell...please!!! I used Costco in my last car before they went TopTier. After a few months I noticed a slightly rough idle, longer crank times and about 50 miles per tank less miles. I switched back to Chevron and after a short time these problems disappeared and I was able to cover around 50 miles. Since Costco became TopTier, I have not seen the issues reoccur. In fact, my idle runs so smoothly that I thought the A/S/S was on (which it wasn't)! In my opinion, TopTier is not a gimmick, but the real deal.

dvdinmotion (236hp) Quote: Originally posted by agentorange Interesting. According to the links on this website, there is no top tier diesel within 100 miles of Las Vegas. The closest one is in St. George, Utah. I wonder what the Shell and Chevron gas stations around the corner would say. Top Tier is also a marketing ploy. It is underpinned by high standards that I believe a typical branded diesel fuel also has, but I didn't bother paying for the label. When people realize that not all diesel is the same, things can change. However, the ASTM requirements for ULSD implied an improvement in all parameters as well as a more uniform diesel quality. PL

athina (194hp) Quote: Originally posted by ezaircon4jc I used Costco in my last car before they went TopTier. After a few months I noticed a slightly rough idle, longer crank times and about 50 miles per tank less miles. I switched back to Chevron and after a short time these problems disappeared and I was able to cover around 50 miles. Since Costco became TopTier, I have not seen the issues reoccur. In fact, my idle runs so smoothly that I thought the A/S/S was on (which it wasn't)! In my opinion, TopTier is not a gimmick, but the real deal. The Costco in San Diego is not considered a top tier. https://www.costco.com/gasoline-diesel.html The naming is limited to certain gas stations.

180593 (388hp) Simply use the best that is available in your region.

maggie101 (1hp) Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg. Dumbest argument you want to make about Walmart and Sam's Club gas lol. I guess I better stop using Sam's Club gas because it will kill my engine and I better turn to Mobil or Shell...please!!! Hardly applicable since I was talking about DIESEL. Most Sam's and Costco locations here have premium gas and I have no qualms about putting it in my truck. Maybe the real question is how much of this top tier thing is real and how much is hype/koolaid/100% nonsense.

iloveyou03 (523hp) Quote: Originally written by agentorange. That's hardly true since I was talking about DIESEL. Most Sam's and Costco locations here have premium gas and I have no qualms about putting it in my truck. Maybe the real question is how much of this top tier thing is real and how much is hype/koolaid/100% nonsense.

money247 (414hp) Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta Quote: Originally posted by samadkins29 RaceTrac does not appear to be a licensed top tier dealer. https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/ @OP Just install premium - I don't understand why people want to save on gas either. $0.10 more x 15 gallons x 52 (once per week) = $78 per year... Not taking into account that the difference is most likely less than $0.10 and most aren't even per Refuel week. I wish it was $0.10 per gallon Delta. I haven't seen that anywhere in years... In the area where I live, a $0.35-$0.55 delta is common, so you're looking at $6-$7 per fill-up on the F10. I only put 93 in it and I fuel three German cars, the others have 22-25 gallon tanks. So if I filled up all the cars, the delta would be $28...not insignificant. In Iowa I can't get 93, the premium is 91, plus it's 60-90 cents more per gallon.

r3m3mb3r (40hp) Quote: Originally written by Pierre Louis The Costco in San Diego is not considered a top tier. https://www.costco.com/gasoline-diesel.html The naming is limited to certain gas stations. As far as I know, they don't sell diesel either. I don't remember ever seeing diesel at Costco... If I had a diesel, I'd probably switch to biodiesel (if necessary) anyway.

marcoantonio (585hp) Quote: Originally posted by agentorange Interesting. According to the links on this website, there is no top tier diesel within 100 miles of Las Vegas. The closest one is in St. George, Utah. I wonder what the Shell and Chevron gas stations around the corner would say. Just because their petrol is top tier doesn't mean their diesel is too.

24071987 (459hp) Quote: Originally written by ezaircon4jc Just because their gas is top tier doesn't mean their diesel is too. So it seems. Triggers Google Fu looking for diesel additives that might help.

remember! (201hp) Quote: Originally posted by agentorange So it seems. Triggers Google Fu looking for diesel additives that might help. Dumbest argument you want to make about Walmart and Sam's Club gas lol. I guess I better stop using Sam's Club gas because it will kill my engine and I better turn to Mobil or Shell...please!!!

frantic (743hp) Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg. Dumbest argument you want to make about Walmart and Sam's Club gas lol. I guess I better stop using Sam's Club gas because it will kill my engine and I better turn to Mobil or Shell...please!!! I used Costco in my last car before they went TopTier. After a few months I noticed a slightly rough idle, longer crank times and about 50 miles per tank less miles. I switched back to Chevron and after a short time these problems disappeared and I was able to cover around 50 miles. Since Costco became TopTier, I have not seen the issues reoccur. In fact, my idle runs so smoothly that I thought the A/S/S was on (which it wasn't)! In my opinion, TopTier is not a gimmick, but the real deal.

jackson9 (295hp) Quote: Originally posted by agentorange Interesting. According to the links on this website, there is no top tier diesel within 100 miles of Las Vegas. The closest one is in St. George, Utah. I wonder what the Shell and Chevron gas stations around the corner would say. Top Tier is also a marketing ploy. It is underpinned by high standards that I believe a typical branded diesel fuel also has, but I didn't bother paying for the label. When people realize that not all diesel is the same, things can change. However, the ASTM requirements for ULSD implied an improvement in all parameters as well as a more uniform diesel quality. PL

hmpro88 (410hp) Quote: Originally posted by ezaircon4jc I used Costco in my last car before they went TopTier. After a few months I noticed a slightly rough idle, longer crank times and about 50 miles per tank less miles. I switched back to Chevron and after a short time these problems disappeared and I was able to cover around 50 miles. Since Costco became TopTier, I have not seen the issues reoccur. In fact, my idle runs so smoothly that I thought the A/S/S was on (which it wasn't)! In my opinion, TopTier is not a gimmick, but the real deal. The Costco in San Diego is not considered a top tier. https://www.costco.com/gasoline-diesel.html The naming is limited to certain gas stations.

131278 (720hp) Simply use the best that is available in your region.

tippmann (3hp) Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg. Dumbest argument you want to make about Walmart and Sam's Club gas lol. I guess I better stop using Sam's Club gas because it will kill my engine and I better turn to Mobil or Shell...please!!! Hardly applicable since I was talking about DIESEL. Most Sam's and Costco locations here have premium gas and I have no qualms about putting it in my truck. Maybe the real question is how much of this top tier thing is real and how much is hype/koolaid/100% nonsense.

samantha09 (83hp) Quote: Originally written by agentorange. That's hardly true since I was talking about DIESEL. Most Sam's and Costco locations here have premium gas and I have no qualms about putting it in my truck. Maybe the real question is how much of this top tier thing is real and how much is hype/koolaid/100% nonsense.

f10andrii (282hp) Quote: Originally posted by BigKutta Quote: Originally posted by samadkins29 RaceTrac does not appear to be a licensed top tier dealer. https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/ @OP Just install premium - I don't understand why people want to save on gas either. $0.10 more x 15 gallons x 52 (once per week) = $78 per year... Not taking into account that the difference is most likely less than $0.10 and most aren't even per Refuel week. I wish it was $0.10 per gallon Delta. I haven't seen that anywhere in years... In the area where I live, a $0.35-$0.55 delta is common, so you're looking at $6-$7 per fill-up on the F10. I only put 93 in it and I fuel three German cars, the others have 22-25 gallon tanks. So if I filled up all the cars, the delta would be $28...not insignificant. In Iowa I can't get 93, the premium is 91, plus it's 60-90 cents more per gallon.

delfin1 (793hp) Quote: Originally written by Pierre Louis The Costco in San Diego is not considered a top tier. https://www.costco.com/gasoline-diesel.html The naming is limited to certain gas stations. As far as I know, they don't sell diesel either. I don't remember ever seeing diesel at Costco... If I had a diesel, I'd probably switch to biodiesel (if necessary) anyway.

665566 (42hp) I'm excited to have my first BMW - 2011 535i xDrive. I've barely driven it for a week and yesterday I get a "drivetrain malfunction" error message. Turn the car off and it's gone, but the check engine light is on and it runs a little rough. Since I still have a 90 day drive warranty, I'm taking it to the dealer. They tell me it's either a wiring problem (like a critter ate some wires) or a fuel injector problem. They also mention that it is a wiring issue, which is not technically a drivetrain issue and I will have to pay to have it fixed. The store will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) and state law apparently prohibits the release of rental cars. Now I don't have a car for the rest of the weekend and have to carpool with my wife on Monday. Is this my rude awakening when it comes to BMW ownership? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this.

iloveubaby (585hp) Quote: Originally written by phatchuck I'm happy to have my first BMW - 2011 535i xDrive - I've barely driven it for a week and yesterday I get a "Powertrain Malfunction" error message. Turn the car off and it's gone, but the check engine light is on and it runs a little rough. Since I still have a 90 day drive warranty, I'm taking it to the dealer. They tell me it's either a wiring problem (like a critter ate some wires) or a fuel injector problem. They also mention that it's a wiring issue and that it's not technically a drivetrain issue and I'll have to pay to have it fixed. The store will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) and state law apparently prohibits the release of rental cars. Now I don't have a car for the rest of the weekend and have to carpool with my wife on Monday. Is this my rude awakening when it comes to BMW ownership? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this. Usually it depends on my car sitting for a while before I got it. They had to repair the wiring in the front bumper because critters were chewing on it. In my case it was caught before purchase. BMW shouldn't be at fault, it's all in the areas where they sit. Mice and the like burrow into the bay to keep warm. You didn't make a bad choice, maybe it was just bad luck that it happened after you bought it. I'm also within 6,000 miles of ownership and so far having issues with the 535 xDrive from the same year.

AlexeyTO (396hp) Quote: Originally posted by BurrNinja Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck I'm happy to have my first BMW - 2011 535i xDrive - I've barely driven it for a week and yesterday I get a "powertrain malfunction" error message. Turn the car off and it's gone, but the check engine light is on and it runs a little rough. Since I still have a 90 day drive warranty, I'm taking it to the dealer. They tell me it's either a wiring problem (like a critter ate some wires) or a fuel injector problem. They also mention that it is a wiring issue, which is not technically a drivetrain issue and I will have to pay to have it fixed. The store will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) and state law apparently prohibits the release of rental cars. Now I don't have a car for the rest of the weekend and have to carpool with my wife on Monday. Is this my rude awakening when it comes to BMW ownership? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this. Usually it depends on my car sitting for a while before I got it. They had to repair the wiring in the front bumper because critters were chewing on it. In my case it was caught before purchase. BMW shouldn't be at fault, it's all in the areas where they sit. Mice and the like burrow into the bay to keep warm. You didn't make a bad choice, maybe it was just bad luck that it happened after you bought it. I'm also within 6,000 miles of ownership and so far having issues with the 535 xDrive from the same year. Quote: Originally posted by BurrNinja Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck I'm happy to have my first BMW - 2011 535i xDrive - I've barely driven it for a week and yesterday I get a "powertrain malfunction" error message. Turn the car off and it's gone, but the check engine light is on and it runs a little rough. Since I still have a 90 day drive warranty, I'm taking it to the dealer. They tell me it's either a wiring problem (like a critter ate some wires) or a fuel injector problem. They also mention that it is a wiring issue, which is not technically a drivetrain issue and I will have to pay to have it fixed. The store will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) and state law apparently prohibits the release of rental cars. Now I don't have a car for the rest of the weekend and have to carpool with my wife on Monday. Is this my rude awakening when it comes to BMW ownership? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this. Usually it depends on my car sitting for a while before I got it. They had to repair the wiring in the front bumper because critters were chewing on it. In my case it was caught before purchase. BMW shouldn't be at fault, it's all in the areas where they sit. Mice and the like burrow into the bay to keep warm. You didn't make a bad choice, maybe it was just bad luck that it happened after you bought it. I'm also within 6,000 miles of ownership and so far having issues with the 535 xDrive from the same year. I almost freaked out after getting this error, but after searching these forums I realized it was probably a relatively minor connector, coil, or injector issue. If it's a wiring problem, they need to figure out what the problem is. I hope that in this case it won't take hours to find the problem.

110085 (252hp) It's a shame that this happened to your car. You can expect the same from any used car, because hey – someone got rid of it for a reason, be it car problems, financial reasons, just bored, or moving somewhere. That's the tax on buying a used car (assuming I've never bought a new car in my life). Now that you are in this situation, just look at the reality based on the car's mileage and assume the worse side (hoping the car hasn't been abused) that some maintenance like spark plugs, air filters and fluids have not been done, etc. Try to cover the basics and assess the typical mileage failure points. Maybe you can fix the problem with this process. If not, prepare to pay a percentage of the price you paid and look back to see if you got a good deal on the car. If your repair costs end up getting you to a point where you essentially break even relative to the car's effective retail price for the mileage, you're better off. If not, sorry dude, but that's the gamble because you can expect the German brands to depreciate a bit faster relative to mileage compared to some Asian and possibly domestic counterparts.

mentiroso (312hp) I hope you did your research and determined a good PPI before purchasing a first year stock car. It's so common that people who get a good deal on these cars only end up dealing with all sorts of problems shortly after the purchase, as the window maker noted. There is usually a very good reason why they were traded and then most likely auctioned off. If you were to buy this car from a BMW dealer, I'm pretty sure you would be in a rental car right now and they would most likely fix the problem. Most of us wouldn't consider owning these cars without a warranty unless you personally know how to repair them or have a very good relationship with an Indy. GL with the repairs and keep us updated

ruby01 (223hp) Quote: Originally written by TTG. I hope you did your research and determined a good PPI before purchasing a first year stock car. It's so common that people who get a good deal on these cars only end up dealing with all sorts of problems shortly after the purchase, as the window maker noted. There is usually a very good reason why they were traded and then most likely auctioned off. If you were to buy this car from a BMW dealer, I'm pretty sure you would be in a rental car right now and they would most likely fix the problem. Most of us wouldn't consider owning these cars without a warranty unless you personally know how to repair them or have a very good relationship with an Indy. GL with the repairs and keep us updated. If you're buying an 8-year-old car, you definitely have to expect to put money into it. I've been looking for a 5 Series for months. “One of the reasons I bought this model (ideally I was looking for a 2014 or 2015) was the good deal I got, even though I knew it might need repairs in the relatively near future. I just didn't expect it to happen in a week. Even if I have to pay for these repairs, I'm still way ahead. 93,000 euros on it, but an absolute eye-catcher that was very well maintained inside and out.

monkeyman2 (80hp) Only a week and already an error code? I hope the dealer takes care of you

hfcgbplzq (388hp) Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck Is this my rude awakening when it comes to owning a BMW? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this. I also came from Jeep. Previously owned the 2009 and 2015 SRT Jeeps and loved those things. I now have a 12' 550i xDrive that has the valve seals repaired at the dealer and I share the same opinion as above. The car drives like a dream... when it's not in the workshop. Luckily, the dealer here in New Jersey gave me a loaner X2 that I've been using for the second week now.

160280 (374hp) Hey, I'm sorry you're already having problems! I just bought my 2013 550 and I get the low battery warning almost every time I turn the car off. You happened to take the car to Automaster??

meadow1 (137hp) When I first bought my car, there were at least three recalls in the first two years I owned it

190894 (744hp) Quote: Originally written by TTG. I hope you did your research and determined a good PPI before purchasing a first year stock car. It's so common that people who get a good deal on these cars only end up dealing with all sorts of problems shortly after the purchase, as the window maker noted. There is usually a very good reason why they were traded and then most likely auctioned off. If you were to buy this car from a BMW dealer, I'm pretty sure you would be in a rental car right now and they would most likely fix the problem. Most of us wouldn't consider owning these cars without a warranty unless you personally know how to repair them or have a very good relationship with an Indy. GL with the repairs and keep us updated. Update - long story short - the dealer basically lied to me and gave me the stopgap solution for a week. Just picked it up today. I dropped it off last Saturday and picked it up today (Saturday). They diagnosed carbon buildup in the DI valves. (It took me until Wednesday to figure this out.) They ended up cleaning them with some sort of chemical treatment, not walnut shells. So I have a 90 degree powertrain warranty and they are trying to tell me carbon deposits are not covered even though the car misfired on two cylinders and gave a trouble code. If this isn't a drive problem, I don't know what is. They claim it is not covered because it was not due to a part failure. I called BS because I only drove the car 300 miles and had it for about 9 days. So to be nice, they split the cost and charged me $202. Needless to say, I caused a stink all week while they figured out what to do. It was finally finished last night and I picked it up today without paying a cent for it. It will supposedly be presented to the district manager on Monday who will make a decision and call me on Monday to let me know if I don't have to pay it. So am I wrong for not wanting to pay for this, or are they just the scumbags I think they are? On a side note, they gave me the car with a new inspection sticker and two days after I brought it home I discovered the washer fluid pump was dead. I paid my husband $190 on the spot for the repair, assuming the dealer didn't want to cover the cost. I'm pretty sure that here in the Northeast a car shouldn't pass inspection if you can't clean its windshield properly. I probably could have made a fuss about it too, but I let them know about it today. This is what I get for being a nice guy. The positive thing is that the engine runs quieter.

250000 (758hp) Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck...They diagnosed carbon buildup in the DI valves. (It took me until Wednesday to figure this out.) They ended up cleaning them with some sort of chemical treatment, not walnut shells. So I have a 90 degree powertrain warranty and they are trying to tell me carbon deposits are not covered even though the car misfired on two cylinders and gave a trouble code. If this isn't a drive problem, I don't know what is. They claim that it is not covered because it was not due to the failure of a part. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they're probably right. A powertrain warranty covers FAULTY parts and does not cover routine maintenance (valve cleaning).).

cjrjkjdf (435hp) Quote: Originally posted by ezaircon4jc Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck...They diagnosed carbon buildup in the DI valves. (It took me until Wednesday to figure this out.) They ended up cleaning them with some sort of chemical treatment, not walnut shells. So I have a 90 degree powertrain warranty and they are trying to tell me carbon deposits are not covered even though the car misfired on two cylinders and gave a trouble code. If this isn't a drive problem, I don't know what is. They claim that this is not due to part failure and is not covered... I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they are probably right. A powertrain warranty covers FAULTY parts and does not cover routine maintenance (valve cleaning). You're certainly right that it's not covered. But given the circumstances in which they were lied to and harassed, they have to make amends.

16111982 (850hp) Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck You're certainly right that it's not covered. But given the circumstances in which they were lied to and harassed, they must make amends. I re-read your first post. What exactly did they lie about? If I read it correctly, they gave you a well-understood diagnosis before an actual diagnosis. After a correct diagnosis, it wasn't what they thought it was, but something else (this happens all the time). I never ask for a guess as to what it might be before diagnosis. I ask about the standard cost but I never hold them to that as things can change once they have done a proper diagnosis. Did the repair solve your problem? The car runs well now without CEL??

gfhtym (798hp) Welcome to BMW

pecora (838hp) Quote: Originally posted by ezaircon4jc Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck You may definitely be right that it's not covered. But given the circumstances in which they were lied to and harassed, they must make amends. I re-read your first post. What exactly did they lie about? If I read it correctly, they gave you a well-understood diagnosis before an actual diagnosis. After a correct diagnosis it wasn't what they thought it was but something else (happens all the time). I never ask for a guess as to what it might be before diagnosis. I ask about the standard cost but I never hold them to that as things can change once they have done a proper diagnosis. Did the repair solve your problem? Does the car run well now without CEL? Well, they lied to me about several things. They claimed that someone had been working on it for two days, troubleshooting, only to find out through another employee that their only BMW employee had been absent from work for those two days. This was after I expressed to them that I would have alternative transportation issues as they had not given me a rental car. Then the manager tells me that they will fix the problem but I have to cover the warranty deductible. He basically invented it because it doesn't exist. After I questioned him about it, he changed gears and said they would do me a favor and split the cost with me. It's a car dealership known for poor service but sells cars at fair prices. The only reason I took it there was because I expected them to honor their warranty. I had a nice run with it today and it's much quieter than before. There is also less judder in second gear, which I think is a common problem with these models. I was impressed with how it drove today. What do you mean by CEL??

mariafernanda (847hp) Take a look at your insurance. Rodents are usually covered by comprehensive insurance. As long as your deductible is not too high, they may be able to help pay for the problem.

anastasija (190hp) I'm excited to have my first BMW - 2011 535i xDrive. I've barely driven it for a week and yesterday I get a "drivetrain malfunction" error message. Turn the car off and it's gone, but the check engine light is on and it runs a little rough. Since I still have a 90 day drive warranty, I'm taking it to the dealer. They tell me it's either a wiring problem (like a critter ate some wires) or a fuel injector problem. They also mention that it is a wiring issue, which is not technically a drivetrain issue and I will have to pay to have it fixed. The store will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) and state law apparently prohibits the release of rental cars. Now I don't have a car for the rest of the weekend and have to carpool with my wife on Monday. Is this my rude awakening when it comes to BMW ownership? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this.

girafe (373hp) Quote: Originally written by phatchuck I'm happy to have my first BMW - 2011 535i xDrive - I've barely driven it for a week and yesterday I get a "Powertrain Malfunction" error message. Turn the car off and it's gone, but the check engine light is on and it runs a little rough. Since I still have a 90 day drive warranty, I'm taking it to the dealer. They tell me it's either a wiring problem (like a critter ate some wires) or a fuel injector problem. They also mention that it's a wiring issue and that it's not technically a drivetrain issue and I'll have to pay to have it fixed. The store will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) and state law apparently prohibits the release of rental cars. Now I don't have a car for the rest of the weekend and have to carpool with my wife on Monday. Is this my rude awakening when it comes to BMW ownership? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this. Usually it depends on my car sitting for a while before I got it. They had to repair the wiring in the front bumper because critters were chewing on it. In my case it was caught before purchase. BMW shouldn't be at fault, it's all in the areas where they sit. Mice and the like burrow into the bay to keep warm. You didn't make a bad choice, maybe it was just bad luck that it happened after you bought it. I'm also within 6,000 miles of ownership and so far having issues with the 535 xDrive from the same year.

04120412 (848hp) Quote: Originally posted by BurrNinja Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck I'm happy to have my first BMW - 2011 535i xDrive - I've barely driven it for a week and yesterday I get a "powertrain malfunction" error message. Turn the car off and it's gone, but the check engine light is on and it runs a little rough. Since I still have a 90 day drive warranty, I'm taking it to the dealer. They tell me it's either a wiring problem (like a critter ate some wires) or a fuel injector problem. They also mention that it's a wiring issue, which is technically not a drivetrain issue and I'll have to pay to fix it. The store will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) and state law apparently prohibits the release of rental cars. Now I don't have a car for the rest of the weekend and have to carpool with my wife on Monday. Is this my rude awakening when it comes to BMW ownership? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this. Usually it depends on my car sitting for a while before I got it. They had to repair the wiring in the front bumper because critters were chewing on it. In my case it was caught before purchase. BMW shouldn't be at fault, it's all in the areas where they sit. Mice and the like burrow into the bay to keep warm. You didn't make a bad choice, maybe it was just bad luck that it happened after you bought it. I'm also within 6,000 miles of ownership and so far having issues with the 535 xDrive from the same year. Quote: Originally posted by BurrNinja Quote: Originally posted by phatchuck I'm happy to have my first BMW - 2011 535i xDrive - I've barely driven it for a week and yesterday I get a "powertrain malfunction" error message. Turn the car off and it's gone, but the check engine light is on and it runs a little rough. Since I still have a 90 day drive warranty, I'm taking it to the dealer. They tell me it's either a wiring problem (like a critter ate some wires) or a fuel injector problem. They also mention that it is a wiring issue, which is not technically a drivetrain issue and I will have to pay to have it fixed. The store will be closed tomorrow (Sunday) and state law apparently prohibits the release of rental cars. Now I don't have a car for the rest of the weekend and have to carpool with my wife on Monday. Is this my rude awakening when it comes to BMW ownership? I've always been a Jeep guy and rarely had to go through things like this. Usually it depends on my car sitting for a while before I got it. They had to repair the wiring in the front bumper because critters were chewing on it. In my case it was caught before purchase. BMW shouldn't be at fault, it's all in the areas where they sit. Mice and the like burrow into the bay to keep warm. You didn't make a bad choice, maybe it was just bad luck that it happened after you bought it. I'm also within 6,000 miles of ownership and so far having issues with the 535 xDrive from the same year. I almost freaked out after getting this error, but after searching these forums I realized it was probably a relatively minor connector, coil, or injector issue. If it's a wiring problem, they need to figure out what the problem is. I hope that in this case it won't take hours to find the problem.

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