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| 120476 (682hp) | I read that David Beckham, the English football star, had two expensive cars (I can't remember the brands) stolen in London recently. The article said it is believed the thieves intercepted his key codes with a laptop and a special program (which is supposed to be easy to find) and were thus able to easily enter and start the cars.
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| edcvfr (176hp) | Quote: Originally posted by d-rive My F10 3.0da fuel gauge moved pretty quickly so I have no issues to worry about) My fuel gauge is working normally, what a relief!!! Quote: Posted by npd2983 All Series 5 Gran Turismos should be recalled due to their excessive ugliness. Current GT owners should receive the sleek and handsome 5 wagon/estate as a replacement. Sorry, I couldn't help but be cheeky on this one. Cheers! Well said, man.
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| dfaris (622hp) | If a professional wants your car, any car is easy to steal. The question you may want to ask yourself is whether, once stolen, you are more or less likely to get the car back. It sure seems like there are two camps to this question: 1 - People who don't want the car back because they think it will have been trashed by the thief and would rather have a replacement vehicle. 2 - People who want their car back.
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| 26071994 (45hp) | The email appears to refer to the BMW 5 Series GT, not the F10. Or did I read something wrong??
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| crbnblk10 (124hp) | Quote: Posted by tony20009 If a pro wants your car, any car is easy to steal. The question you may want to ask yourself is whether, once stolen, you are more or less likely to get the car back. It sure seems like there are two camps to this question: 1 - People who don't want the car back because they think it will have been trashed by the thief and would rather have a replacement vehicle. 2 - People who want their car back. I'm with 1... If I ever get a car stolen, I don't want it back. It is not my choice if the car should be found, but it will go directly to the dealer to be exchanged for another..
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| diva21 (296hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TX535i The email appears to refer to the BMW 5 Series GT, not the F10. Or did I read something wrong? In fact, it also covers the 2010 and 2011 5 Series, which includes the F10. See the NHTSA recall notice below. NHTSA Campaign ID: 10V331000 Summary: BMW RECALLS CERTAIN 2010 AND 2011 5 SERIES AND 5 SERIES GRAN TURISMO PASSENGER VEHICLES MANUFACTURED FROM JANUARY 12 TO JULY 1, 2010. VEHICLES' FUEL LEVEL SENSOR THE INSIDE OF THE FUEL TANK CAN BECOME STUCK AGAINST THE TANK. Consequence: IF THIS OCCURS, THE FUEL GAUGE IN THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER WILL SHOW A GREATER AMOUNT OF FUEL THAN ACTUALLY WAS IN THE TANK. CONSEQUENTLY, IF THE TANK BECAME EMPTY, THE VEHICLE COULD STALL, INCREASING THE RISK OF AN ACCIDENT. Remedy: BMW HAS NOT YET PROVIDED TO THE AGENCY A REMEDY PLAN AND NOTIFICATION SCHEDULE. OWNERS CAN CONTACT BMW AT 1-800-525-7417. Notes: OWNERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .
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| 130589 (669hp) | From your direct experience, if you experience an engine malfunction - reduced power message, you might have the problem. So I think this may be an HPFP issue and/or it may be a coincidence. I think this is a problem with the split fuel tank design. I wonder what escalated the issue to NHTSA? There must have been several owners who experienced this. I know there have also been F01s and X6s (4.4 TT) with problems. I also question the vehicle's production dates: the GT I'm referring to was built in 11/09
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| jonerik26 (656hp) | First post updated: UPDATE 07/28/10 Quote: BMW recalls approximately 12,400 2011 BMW 5 Series sedans in the United States and China to repair a fuel level sensor, the same problem it recently had recalled the BMW 5 Series Gran. Tourism for. BMW is recalling 6,400 units of the new 5 Series in the United States and 5,000 to 6,000 units in China. Spokesman Frank Strebe said replacing part of the fuel tank sensor would take about half a day. Strebe said there have been 10 reported incidents in the United States. NHTSA says the vehicles were built between January 12 and July 1.
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| Tristan1 (776hp) | Quote: Posted by MojoeF10 I always told myself I would never buy a car in the first year of a redesign... but I just couldn't resist this time. I'm sure all these bugs will be fixed soon, but it's pretty annoying. Thanks for the info on the fuel sensor. I said the same thing before signing up for an 07 335. The number of gremlins in this car amazes me. I so want to order an F10...guess I'll wait for the mid-cycle refresh though. By then they should work out all the bugs.
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| wolverin (300hp) | http://autos.sympatico.ca/automotive...ty-fuel-sensor BMW is issuing a recall for certain 2010 and 2011 5 Series and Gran Turismo models due to an issue with the fuel level sensor. The fuel sensor can become stuck against the tank, causing the sensor to detect more fuel than is actually in the tank, causing the risk of a stranded vehicle or even an accident. The National Highway and Transportation Safety Administration reports that 6,080 vehicles are affected by the faulty sensor, all built between January 12 and July 1, 2010. Although BMW has not yet provided a solution to the problem to NHTSA, owners will do it. will likely be notified when a repair is available. In the meantime, owners are advised to refuel regularly to avoid running out of fuel...
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| 200188 (389hp) | Quote: Originally published by Mercury My car is parked at the port and I don't know when it will arrive at the dealership. The dealer says the same thing, with parts recall fixes being done at the prep center. I guess it's the same thing. Not an auspicious start for a new car :-) I made a delivery in euros and my car was randomly tagged by customs at the port. It remained there for almost 3 months before its release on VPC. I was just dying waiting. Just my luck. It’s a story almost entirely forgotten now. Don't worry, this too shall pass.
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| jaja123 (846hp) | BMW is recalling approximately 12,400 2011 BMW 5 Series sedans in the United States and China to repair a fuel level sensor, the same problem for which it recently recalled the BMW 5 Series Gran Turismo. BMW is recalling 6,400 units of the new 5 Series in the United States and 5,000 to 6,000 units in China. Spokesman Frank Strebe said replacing part of the fuel tank sensor would take about half a day. Strebe said there have been 10 reported incidents in the United States. NHTSA says the vehicles were built between January 12 and July 1. But the new BMW F10 isn't even available in China. The launch party is underway 8.6
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| milou (326hp) | I had my 535i for 3 weeks/1000 miles. I took a long trip today, came back and put the car in the garage. 1/2 hour later I went out to the store and the car wouldn't start (turned over but wouldn't start). A warning appeared regarding the chassis stabilization malfunction. I had to call Assist and they will tow it to the dealership in the morning. Anyone else have this problem?
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| snicker (206hp) | So if my car is at the port it will be repaired before giving it to me? It's good. Regarding the first year's recast production, yes, that's true. However I bought 135i first year and it is immaculate. I had a recall, but it was really optional in my opinion, they replaced the taillights for some reason, even though the existing ones worked fine. I also read the W212 first year redesign production forum and I don't see many complaints, the MY11 model has very minor changes. Mercedes has therefore reached the level of confidentiality. Even the Series 1 received a lot more upgrades for the second year and now even a new engine. So, my conclusion that car manufacturers have finally gained a certain level of experience and it is no longer very risky to take on the production overhaul in the first year..
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| jessie13 (987hp) | Quote: Originally posted by MOCKBA So if my car is at the port it will be repaired before giving it to me? It's good. Regarding the first year's recast production, yes, that's true. However I bought 135i first year and it is immaculate. I had a recall, but it was really optional in my opinion, they replaced the taillights for some reason, even though the existing ones worked fine. I also read the W212 first year redesign production forum and I don't see many complaints, the MY11 model has very minor changes. Mercedes has therefore reached the level of confidentiality. Even the Series 1 received a lot more upgrades for the second year and now even a new engine. So my conclusion that automakers finally gained a certain level of experience and undertook redesign production in the first year is no longer very risky. I tend to agree that the major problems in the early years are more in the past. I had a 2001 E46 for the first year of the 330i and no problems. The only headaches were windows falling off the rails and a fuel pump after 4-5 years. My opinion is that we won't know what's really wrong in about 4-5 years with this model, and by then the new model will be on the horizon..
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| Danny1388 (698hp) | The versions from July 2 are therefore correct.?
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| 01051987 (533hp) | I'm thinking of buying an Audi A5, which from 2011 also comes with the ZF 8-speed automatic transmission. Not much info on the Audi forums, as the 2011s are just starting to arrive. So what do you think of this transmission??
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| raven11 (655hp) | ZF makes the best automatic transmissions in the world. People who have owed BMWs and other cars with ZF trannys know they are bulletproof. Considering how much ZF has invested in development, both monetary and reputation-wise, I expect nothing less from this one. In terms of performance, it is quiet and transparent. You can't really tell the car is going all the way through the gears unless you have the radio off and the windows down. Also partly because of the transmission, I saw 30 mpg on the highway on long trips, coasting at 80 mph. It's better than a Honda Accord V6, without the omnipresence.
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| stasstas (990hp) | The F10's sport automatic transmission is awesome.
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| 06111992 (200hp) | They may be mechanically identical, but I would bet that the software is proprietary to the automaker, and so comparisons are of limited value..
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| ilikepie12 (158hp) | Edmunds just reviewed the best features of the 5 Series: Eight-speed automatic transmission BMW's new 8-speed automatic transmission, or new 8-speed "Sport Automatic" automatic transmission, compared to the 6-speed automatic example speeds offered in previous BMW models, features “higher” cruising speeds which contribute significantly to reduced fuel consumption and emissions, as well as quietness. The wider ratio spread allows the engine to run at lower revs, primarily in the “highest” gear, 8th. Yet even with this wider gap, the pitches between adjacent gears are reduced, meaning a stronger, smoother flow of power when accelerating. And for the same reason, faster gear changes are an added advantage, because only one clutch is disengaged to move up or down one or two gears. On the other hand, downshifting more than two gears is carried out like a direct gear change. For example, the transition from 8th to 2nd gear is carried out with a single clutch release, and is therefore carried out without downshifting through intermediate gears. The 535i has an EPA-estimated fuel economy of 20 mpg city, 29 mpg highway and 23 mpg combined, according to BMW, one of the best in the midsize luxury sedan segment..
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| gareth (334hp) | I drove the Sport 8 speed with the 523i and it feels smoother and better in every way than the 6 speed in my last 335i. It's amazing they can squeeze this much acceleration out of the 205 hp 2.5L I-6. Best automatic transmission I've ever driven, counting M-DCT in 3er and Audi 7sp DSG S-tronic.
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| bcbarker (183hp) | I've been driving my 550 for less than a few hundred miles and the gear changes are very smooth..
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| clarion (197hp) | I'm thinking of buying an Audi A5, which from 2011 also comes with the ZF 8-speed automatic transmission. Not much info on the Audi forums, as the 2011s are just starting to arrive. So what do you think of this transmission??
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| building (785hp) | ZF makes the best automatic transmissions in the world. People who have owed BMWs and other cars with ZF trannys know they are bulletproof. Considering how much ZF has invested in development, both monetary and reputation-wise, I expect nothing less from this one. In terms of performance, it is quiet and transparent. You can't really tell the car is going all the way through the gears unless you have the radio off and the windows down. Also partly because of the transmission, I saw 30 mpg on the highway on long trips, coasting at 80 mph. It's better than a Honda Accord V6, without the omnipresence.
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| JW203L (835hp) | The F10's sport automatic transmission is awesome.
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| coupons1 (34hp) | They may be mechanically identical, but I would bet that the software is proprietary to the automaker, and so comparisons are of limited value..
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| stevenfaustin (45hp) | Edmunds just reviewed the best features of the 5 Series: Eight-speed automatic transmission BMW's new 8-speed automatic transmission, or new 8-speed "Sport Automatic" automatic transmission, compared to the 6-speed automatic example speeds offered in previous BMW models, features “higher” cruising speeds which contribute significantly to reduced fuel consumption and emissions, as well as quietness. The wider ratio spread allows the engine to run at lower revs, primarily in the “highest” gear, 8th. Yet even with this wider gap, the pitches between adjacent gears are reduced, meaning a stronger, smoother flow of power when accelerating. And for the same reason, faster gear changes are an added advantage, because only one clutch is disengaged to move up or down one or two gears. On the other hand, downshifting more than two gears is carried out like a direct gear change. For example, the transition from 8th to 2nd gear is carried out with a single clutch release, and is therefore carried out without downshifting through intermediate gears. The 535i has an EPA-estimated fuel economy of 20 mpg city, 29 mpg highway and 23 mpg combined, according to BMW, one of the best in the midsize luxury sedan segment..
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| kenz4u (162hp) | I drove the Sport 8 speed with the 523i and it feels smoother and better in every way than the 6 speed in my last 335i. It's amazing they can squeeze this much acceleration out of the 205 hp 2.5L I-6. Best automatic transmission I've ever driven, counting M-DCT in 3er and Audi 7sp DSG S-tronic.
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| 198214 (55hp) | I've been driving my 550 for less than a few hundred miles and the gear changes are very smooth..
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| wuchun (247hp) | This August 2010 issue of Car&Driver offers a comparative test between the new 2010 BMW 535i Sport, the 2011 Infiniti M37S and the Audi A6 3.0T Quattro. 3rd place: BMW 535i Sport 2nd place: Infiniti M37S 1st place: Audi A6 3.0T Quattro
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| c0l0rad0 (510hp) | Ask them how much Audi paid for the review.!!!
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| Ferre86 (741hp) | Well, they basically criticized the new 535i for having too light steering and feeling numb on center when driving the car. It's the same thought when I tested the 535i and 550i twice. They also said that the new platform is too heavy since it is based on the 7 series platform. A lot of blame is placed on switching the steering system to electric assist which does not give too much feedback information..
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| simpsons12 (42hp) | so you don't like it?
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| 19081989 (620hp) | To be fair, the review numbers were all very close. But they mostly complain about the lack of steering feel. And frankly, I agree with them in this sense.
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| 230986 (27hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ibimmer346 To be honest, the numbers in the review were all very close. But they mostly complain about the lack of steering feel. And frankly, I agree with them on this point. I like the car, I would still buy it over the Infiniti and the outdated A6. But I also have to agree with them in this sense.
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| steiner (852hp) | I drove the A6 and 535i in the Ultimate Drive event...car and driver must be joking? the a6 in first place? This has to be a joke, in my time in the a6 I couldn't find a single positive aspect to this vehicle, from its steering to its styling to the electronics. I wouldn't even compare the a6 to a 535i - what a shame car and driver.
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| СР(193hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ibimmer346 To be honest, the numbers in the review were all very close. But they mostly complain about the lack of steering feel. And frankly, I agree with them on this point. Did the 535 have the dynamic handling package in the review?
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| buddha (486hp) | Quote: Originally published by BimmerGuyFL This August 2010 issue of Car&Driver features a comparison test of the new 2010 BMW 535i Sport versus the 2011 Infiniti M37S versus the Audi A6 3.0T Quattro. 3rd place: BMW 535i Sport 2nd place: Infiniti M37S 1st place: Audi A6 3.0T Quattro What dynamic driving option did the f10 have (the dynamic suspension, the sport button, etc..)?
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| mitzi1 (434hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BimmerGuyFL Well, they basically criticized the new 535i for having too light steering and feeling numb on center when driving the car. It's the same thought when I tested the 535i and 550i twice. They also said that the new platform is too heavy since it is based on the 7 series platform. A lot of blame is placed on switching the steering system to electric assist which does not give too much feedback information. Having just tested a 535i, I have to agree with these comments. The car feels very large and heavy compared to my 335d, although the actual weight difference is only about 100kg or 220lbs. The car I drove was equipped with the Sport package and the Executive package (no active steering). The steering was direct but very numb on center and very uncommunicative compared to my 335d. Being completely unfamiliar with the 5's automatic transmission shifter, it took me about a minute to figure out how to shift the car from Park to Drive and locate the parking brake release switch . Once underway, I immediately noticed the rather small side mirrors, much smaller than those on my 335d. Rearward vision is also compromised in the new 5er. The engine seemed very docile and dull compared to my 335d engine, maybe it was the big torque difference or maybe just me. The 5 rides very well, although there were some thumps coming from either the suspension or tires when driving over uneven and broken pavement. I struggled to find the right seating position and kept trying to find a way to adjust the angle of the headrest which tilted too far forward for me. The only adjustment seems to be the height. When I first got into this car, I had high expectations. But after getting back behind the wheel of my 335d, I felt much better about my current ride. Compared to the 535i, the D feels much more lively and responsive, and much more fun to drive. The 535i offers more comfortable seats, more space and a smoother ride. However, the very numb steering and subdued engine response disappointed me. Styling-wise, the new 5 is definitely a good-looking machine (in lighter colors), but it feels very large compared to a 3 Series. The interior is well executed design-wise, but all black , it seems very confined, especially in the back seat. For me in any case, the 5 does not meet my expectations.
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| chichi2 (793hp) | I'm 27 years old and I have a 335xi coupe and I've driven the new BMW F10 and I think the new BMW 5 is an amazing car to drive. Soft, sporty, comfortable without compromise. I don't care about the numb steering because it's still pretty good. If you want a more direct one, get the dynamic management package. This doesn't mean the car is bad. I think the 5 series is much better than my 335xi coupe in terms of refinement and feel. The 3 series is sometimes harsh and exhausting to drive over bumps etc. Additionally, the 3 Series is sensitive to road bumps and has heavy steering in parking lots. I'm ready for the F10 and it's absolutely the best 5 series in years. And no, I don't miss the feel of the 335xi compared to the F10 at all. F10 meets and exceeds my expectations!
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| lunch (159hp) | Quote: Originally posted by baloo588, this is hands down the best 5 series in years. And no, I don't miss the feel of the 335xi compared to the F10 at all. F10 meets and exceeds my expectations! I have owned over 10 BMWs, including an E39/535i and an E90/335i coupe. In my opinion, the new 535i sedan doesn't come close to any of these cars when it comes to driving pleasure and overall balance. There's no doubt I was hoping to be impressed by the new 5er, but my impressions were similar to those reported by British magazine Autocar. Quite simply, the car seems too big, too heavy and too isolated from the road. And with its huge turning radius, it's not very agile for city parking maneuvers. I plan to test some competitors before deciding on my ultimate driving machine..
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| 159263487 (521hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DerekS... Being completely unfamiliar with the 5's automatic transmission shifter, it took me about a minute to figure out how to shift the car from Park to Drive and locate the switch release of the parking brake. ...I had trouble finding the right seating position and kept trying to find a way to adjust the angle of the headrest which tilted too far forward for me. The only adjustment seems to be the height. In what mode was Dynamic Ride Control enabled and did you adjust the chassis?
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| september12 (751hp) | Are they testing the 2010 BMW 535i or the 2011 535i (F10)?
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| e6fc37 (95hp) | This article is so similar to Car and Driver. They tend to pick one thing they perceive as a shortcoming and trumpet it, while ignoring the 5er's other qualities. They have been doing this for 8 years. Audi makes a good product. However, very few people, if any, would argue that an Audi A6 is better than a BMW 5er, especially the new F10. I personally don't like the Audi A6's transmission and find the Infiniti M37 to be an inferior imitation of a BMW..
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| 131178 (790hp) | What I find funny is that some of you are saying: the 535i seems heavy compared to my 335d. No shit, Sherlock?! Drive a 740i and you might feel the same way too.
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| 071091 (703hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DerekS I have owned over 10 BMWs, including an E39/535i and an E90/335i coupe. In my opinion, the new 535i sedan doesn't come close to any of these cars when it comes to driving pleasure and overall balance. There's no doubt I was hoping to be impressed by the new 5er, but my impressions were similar to those reported by British magazine Autocar. Quite simply, the car seems too big, too heavy and too isolated from the road. And with its huge turning radius, it's not very agile for city parking maneuvers. I plan to test some competitors before deciding on my ultimate driving machine. If you opt for the dynamic management package, it will undoubtedly meet your expectations. You may need to test one before trying the competitors. I have an Audi A8L, a Lexus GS and a Mercedes ML in my garage along with the BMW. The 5 Series felt better than the GS, E-Class and A6 in terms of handling.
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| Geodealz (110hp) | Quote: Originally posted by baloo588 If you get the dynamic management package, it will definitely meet your expectations. I'll try to test drive a 535i with the dynamic driving package before I decide. But really, does the 535i need this expensive options package to turn it into a decent handling machine ? ???
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| johncena! (369hp) | Quote: Originally posted by baloo588 If you get the dynamic management package, it will definitely meet your expectations. You may need to test one before trying the competitors. I have an Audi A8L, a Lexus GS and a Mercedes ML in my garage along with the BMW. The 5 Series felt better than the GS, E-Class and A6 in terms of handling. if I feel better, I'm sold
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| gorillaz1 (397hp) | I thought the same thing too when driving a car without a dynamic management package. Next, I tried the Dynamic Handling in Sport mode, and it stiffened up and I could feel the road better. It was a deal breaker without that. Additionally, I tried one with IAS and it further improved handling at highway speeds with quick turns and maneuvers. it handled and behaved like a much smaller car. If someone is really picky about handling, they should rate this one too. -Magic
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| baby79 (220hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DerekS I'm going to try testing a 535i with the dynamic handling package before I decide. But really, does the 535i need this expensive option package to turn it into a decent handling machine??? I suspect the majority of people on this forum will consider the Dynamic Handling Package a must-have. I also assume we are a small minority of F10 owners. I think there are a large number of people who will buy their standard suspension non-sport F10, think it handles incredibly well, and will be very happy with it for many years. As for me, I'm glad they're here - BMW can reap the benefits of all these cars and continue to develop all the cool stuff (like the Dynamic Handling Package) that those of us here want. need.
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| badgirls (713hp) | The model tested only included the Premium Package 1, the Sport Package, the Dynamic Handling Package and the Sport Auto..
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| paolita (349hp) | This August 2010 issue of Car&Driver offers a comparative test between the new 2010 BMW 535i Sport, the 2011 Infiniti M37S and the Audi A6 3.0T Quattro. 3rd place: BMW 535i Sport 2nd place: Infiniti M37S 1st place: Audi A6 3.0T Quattro
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| shit1234 (106hp) | Ask them how much Audi paid for the review.!!!
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| cinghiale (955hp) | Well, they basically criticized the new 535i for having too light steering and feeling numb on center when driving the car. It's the same thought when I tested the 535i and 550i twice. They also said that the new platform is too heavy since it is based on the 7 series platform. A lot of blame is placed on switching the steering system to electric assist which does not give too much feedback information..
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| johan750 (319hp) | so you don't like it?
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| killer12345 (613hp) | To be fair, the review numbers were all very close. But they mostly complain about the lack of steering feel. And frankly, I agree with them in this sense.
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| 060192 (136hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ibimmer346 To be honest, the numbers in the review were all very close. But they mostly complain about the lack of steering feel. And frankly, I agree with them on this point. I like the car, I would still buy it over the Infiniti and the outdated A6. But I also have to agree with them in this sense.
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| 88 (478hp) | I drove the A6 and 535i in the Ultimate Drive event...car and driver must be joking? the a6 in first place? This has to be a joke, in my time in the a6 I couldn't find a single positive aspect to this vehicle, from its steering to its styling to the electronics. I wouldn't even compare the a6 to a 535i - what a shame car and driver.
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| 04041992 (673hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ibimmer346 To be honest, the numbers in the review were all very close. But they mainly complained about the lack of steering feel. And frankly, I agree with them on this point. Did the 535 have the dynamic handling package in the review?
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| biscuits1 (607hp) | Quote: Originally published by BimmerGuyFL This August 2010 issue of Car&Driver features a comparison test of the new 2010 BMW 535i Sport versus the 2011 Infiniti M37S versus the Audi A6 3.0T Quattro. 3rd place: BMW 535i Sport 2nd place: Infiniti M37S 1st place: Audi A6 3.0T Quattro What dynamic driving option did the f10 have (the dynamic suspension, the sport button, etc..)?
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| gjgjdf (5hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BimmerGuyFL Well, they basically criticized the new 535i for having too light steering and feeling numb on center when driving the car. It's the same thought when I tested the 535i and 550i twice. They also said that the new platform is too heavy since it is based on the 7 series platform. A lot of blame is placed on switching the steering system to electric assist which does not give too much feedback information. Having just tested a 535i, I have to agree with these comments. The car feels very large and heavy compared to my 335d, although the actual weight difference is only about 100kg or 220lbs. The car I drove was equipped with the Sport package and the Executive package (no active steering). The steering was direct but very numb on center and very uncommunicative compared to my 335d. Being completely unfamiliar with the 5's automatic transmission shifter, it took me about a minute to figure out how to shift the car from Park to Drive and locate the parking brake release switch . Once underway, I immediately noticed the rather small side mirrors, much smaller than those on my 335d. Rearward vision is also compromised in the new 5er. The engine seemed very docile and dull compared to my 335d engine, maybe it was the big torque difference or maybe it was just me. The 5 rides very well, although there were some thumps coming from either the suspension or tires when driving over uneven and broken pavement. I struggled to find the right seating position and kept trying to find a way to adjust the angle of the headrest which tilted too far forward for me. The only adjustment seems to be the height. When I first got into this car, I had high expectations. But after getting back behind the wheel of my 335d, I felt much better about my current ride. Compared to the 535i, the d feels much more lively and responsive, and a lot more fun to drive. The 535i offers more comfortable seats, more space and a smoother ride. However, the very numb steering and subdued engine response disappointed me. Styling-wise, the new 5 is definitely a good-looking machine (in lighter colors), but it feels very large compared to a 3 Series. The interior is well executed design-wise, but all black , it seems very confined, especially in the back seat. For me in any case, the 5 does not meet my expectations.
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| ESTRELLA (823hp) | I'm 27 years old and I have a 335xi coupe and I've driven the new BMW F10 and I think the new BMW 5 is an amazing car to drive. Soft, sporty, comfortable without compromise. I don't care about the numb steering because it's still pretty good. If you want a more direct one, get the dynamic management package. This doesn't mean the car is bad. I think the 5 series is much better than my 335xi coupe in terms of refinement and feel. The 3 series is sometimes harsh and exhausting to drive over bumps etc. Additionally, the 3 Series is sensitive to road bumps and has heavy steering in parking lots. I'm ready for the F10 and it's absolutely the best 5 series in years. And no, I don't miss the feel of the 335xi compared to the F10 at all. F10 meets and exceeds my expectations!
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| pink33 (80hp) | Quote: Originally posted by baloo588, this is hands down the best 5 series in years. And no, I don't miss the feel of the 335xi compared to the F10 at all. F10 meets and exceeds my expectations! I have owned over 10 BMWs, including an E39/535i and an E90/335i coupe. In my opinion, the new 535i sedan doesn't come close to any of these cars when it comes to driving pleasure and overall balance. There's no doubt I was hoping to be impressed by the new 5er, but my impressions were similar to those reported by British magazine Autocar. Quite simply, the car seems too big, too heavy and too isolated from the road. And with its huge turning radius, it's not very agile for city parking maneuvers. I plan to test some competitors before deciding on my ultimate driving machine..
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| craigcayetano (248hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DerekS... Being completely unfamiliar with the 5's automatic transmission shifter, it took me about a minute to figure out how to shift the car from Park to Drive and locate the switch release of the parking brake. ...I had trouble finding the right seating position and kept trying to find a way to adjust the angle of the headrest which tilted too far forward for me. The only adjustment seems to be the height. In what mode was Dynamic Ride Control enabled and did you adjust the chassis?
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| 260988 (953hp) | Are they testing the 2010 BMW 535i or the 2011 535i (F10)?
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| dirtbikes1 (738hp) | This article is so similar to Car and Driver. They tend to pick one thing they perceive as a shortcoming and trumpet it, while ignoring the 5er's other qualities. They have been doing this for 8 years. Audi makes a good product. However, very few people, if any, would argue that an Audi A6 is better than a BMW 5er, especially the new F10. I personally don't like the Audi A6's transmission and find the Infiniti M37 to be an inferior imitation of a BMW..
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| normal1 (356hp) | What I find funny is that some of you are saying: the 535i seems heavy compared to my 335d. No shit, Sherlock?! Drive a 740i and you might feel the same too.
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| allycat (384hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DerekS I have owned over 10 BMWs, including an E39/535i and an E90/335i coupe. In my opinion, the new 535i sedan doesn't come close to any of these cars when it comes to driving pleasure and overall balance. There's no doubt I was hoping to be impressed by the new 5er, but my impressions were similar to those reported by British magazine Autocar. Quite simply, the car seems too big, too heavy and too isolated from the road. And with its huge turning radius, it's not very agile for city parking maneuvers. I plan to test some competitors before deciding on my ultimate driving machine. If you opt for the dynamic management package, it will undoubtedly meet your expectations. You may need to test one before trying the competitors. I have an Audi A8L, a Lexus GS and a Mercedes ML in my garage along with the BMW. The 5 Series felt better than the GS, E-Class and A6 in terms of handling.
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| boricua21 (896hp) | Quote: Originally posted by baloo588 If you get the dynamic management package, it will definitely meet your expectations. I'll try to test drive a 535i with the dynamic driving package before I decide. But really, does the 535i need this expensive options package to turn it into a decent handling machine ? ???
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| iloveno1 (878hp) | Quote: Originally posted by baloo588 If you get the dynamic management package, it will definitely meet your expectations. You may need to test one before trying the competitors. I have an Audi A8L, a Lexus GS and a Mercedes ML in my garage along with the BMW. The 5 Series felt better than the GS, E-Class and A6 in terms of handling. if I feel better, I'm sold
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| TWSnow (291hp) | I thought the same thing too when driving a car without a Dynamic Handling Package. Next, I tried the Dynamic Handling in Sport mode, and it stiffened up and I could feel the road better. It was a deal breaker without that. Additionally, I tried one with IAS and it further improved handling at highway speeds with quick turns and maneuvers. it handled and behaved like a much smaller car. If someone is really picky about handling, they should rate this one too. -Magic
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| natbay89 (551hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DerekS I'm going to try testing a 535i with the dynamic handling package before I decide. But really, does the 535i need this expensive option package to turn it into a decent handling machine??? I suspect the majority of people on this forum will consider the Dynamic Handling Package a must-have. I also assume we are a small minority of F10 owners. I think there are a large number of people who will buy their standard suspension non-sport F10, think it handles incredibly well, and will be very happy with it for many years. As for me, I'm glad they're here - BMW can reap the benefits of all these cars and continue developing all the cool stuff (like the Dynamic Handling Package) that those of us here want. need.
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| pappy1 (339hp) | The model tested only included the Premium Package 1, the Sport Package, the Dynamic Handling Package and the Sport Auto..
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| sourire (659hp) | Personally, I love the HUD! I find it extremely convenient to know directions, speed and incoming call information without having to take my eyes off the road. When I get into a vehicle that doesn't have a HUD, I keep looking for it and find myself very disappointed when I realize the vehicle doesn't have a HUD. I find it makes driving much safer! That said, we have 1 retrofit HUD in stock for an F10, so if anyone is interested in getting it, PM me and I'll be happy to give you all the info. Kate
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| manutd12 (407hp) | PM sent
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| darkness11 (776hp) | The main question to ask here is: do you wear polarized sunglasses? If the answer is yes, then count on never being able to see something you spent a lot of money on. At least, that's whenever the sun is out. Or you're like me in the better half X5 and have to constantly tilt your head to the side instead of just looking down......
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| 131981 (559hp) | Personally, I love the HUD! I find it extremely convenient to know directions, speed and incoming call information without having to take my eyes off the road. When I get into a vehicle that doesn't have a HUD, I keep looking for it and find myself very disappointed when I realize the vehicle doesn't have a HUD. I find it makes driving much safer! That said, we have 1 retrofit HUD in stock for an F10, so if anyone is interested in getting it, PM me and I'll be happy to give you all the info. Kate
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| rosie (540hp) | PM sent
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| bryan23 (596hp) | The main question to ask here is: do you wear polarized sunglasses? If the answer is yes, then count on never being able to see something you spent a lot of money on. At least that’s the case every time the sun is out. Or you're like me in the better half X5 and have to constantly tilt your head to the side instead of just looking down......
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| 771122 (99hp) | Some thoughts on the Sophisto Grey/Oyster/Black car I've had for a week now: Engine: Smoother than I expected from a 4 cylinder diesel. Mid-range acceleration is awesome! 120 km/h on the highway is effortless and serene. The economy looks good so far, although I haven't really been restrained in my driving. I'm surprised the dealer said there was no break-in period and I didn't see any mention of it in the manual. Gearbox: Lots of effort to find reverse! I hope it will relax. Otherwise good. Interior: good quality, but much less storage than my B6 Passat. Nowhere for a bottle of water. Idrive: nice but surprised that the USB socket does not read an iPod/iPhone directly with the Apple cable! The built-in Bluetooth integration is the best I've seen/heard of any setup to date. Parking: I can't do a 3-point turn in a spot I've always been able to do in any previous car. I guess that's the downside of the long wheelbase. However, it is nice to have a PDC as standard. Summary: Very impressed with the car. Big step forward in performance and quality compared to the B6 Passat.
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| .kzirf (327hp) | Really, how can you compare a Passat with this CAR (F10). I see, both have 4 wheels :P Take the automatic transexual, those 8 speeds will put the engine in a very bright light if you know what I mean.
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| sondra (335hp) | Some thoughts on the Sophisto Grey/Oyster/Black car I've had for a week now: Engine: Smoother than I expected from a 4 cylinder diesel. Mid-range acceleration is awesome! 120 km/h on the highway is effortless and serene. The economy looks good so far, although I haven't really been restrained in my driving. I'm surprised the dealer said there was no break-in period and I didn't see any mention of it in the manual. Gearbox: Lots of effort to find reverse! I hope it will relax. Otherwise good. Interior: good quality, but much less storage than my B6 Passat. Nowhere for a bottle of water. Idrive: nice but surprised that the USB socket does not read an iPod/iPhone directly with the Apple cable! The built-in Bluetooth integration is the best I've seen/heard to date. Parking: I can't do a 3-point turn in a spot I've always been able to do in any previous car. I guess that's the downside of the long wheelbase. However, it is nice to have a PDC as standard. Summary: Very impressed with the car. Big step forward in terms of performance and quality compared to the B6 Passat.
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| jayshree (302hp) | Really, how can you compare a Passat with this CAR (F10). I see, both have 4 wheels :P Take the automatic transexual, those 8 speeds will put the engine in a very bright light if you know what I mean.
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| redsox09 (473hp) | I'm looking to order a 550i, but need to know which of these configurations will have better steering response and feel. I think the M-Sport with the 10mm lower, stiffer suspension and active steering cancellation would do the trick. I just need to hear from someone who has tried both.
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| 020480 (137hp) | Very good question. Since the M-sport suspension is not available in this country and apparently will not be available here, I suggest you post this question on the forums frequented by European BMW enthusiasts, 5post.com and the forums of the Series 5. Europeans have long been able to order both suspensions.
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| honey143 (148hp) | I'm looking to order a 550i, but need to know which of these configurations will have better steering response and feel. I think the M-Sport with the 10mm lower, stiffer suspension and active steering cancellation would do the trick. I just need to hear from someone who has tried both.
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| swordfish2 (972hp) | Very good question. Since the M-sport suspension is not available in this country and apparently will not be available here, I suggest you post this question on the forums frequented by European BMW enthusiasts, 5post.com and the forums of the Series 5. Europeans have long been able to order both suspensions.
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| walkitout1 (54hp) | Hi everyone...Is there an option to activate/disarm the alarm? I only understand the visual but not the sound! I searched in the manual and in the i-drive itself and didn't find such an option. Maybe it's not allowed in Europe?
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| 420smoke (412hp) | Petros, try this from the I-drive menu. Menu->, Settings->, Door locks. There should be an acoustic signal when the case is unlocked/locked. PS - thanks for posting the pictures of your car a while ago. I enjoyed them in anticipation of mine which was similar.
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| import (11hp) | I wonder if mine will have this option. I left my 320si unlocked several times while visiting a customer or outside my home..
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| 1w2q3r4e (703hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Magic Petros, try this from the I-Drive menu. Menu->, Settings->, Door locks. There should be an acoustic signal when the case is unlocked/locked. PS - thanks for posting the pictures of your car a while ago. I enjoyed them in anticipation of mine which were similar. I don't remember seeing this in the idrive menu... Do you have it in yours?
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| 199713 (605hp) | Quote: Posted by ddd269 I don't remember seeing this in the idrive menu... Do you have it in yours? Yes. This is the sequence in mine to turn the chirp on and off when you lock/unlock the doors..
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| lovingu (27hp) | I don't have that either! I guess a visit to the thief is imminent!
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| pisellone (725hp) | It's in mine too. How is it possible that it's not in yours??
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| homegrown (614hp) | Quote: Originally posted by blulite This is in mine too. How is it possible that it's not in yours? It's the same on the 3 series, the European models don't have any chirping sound. On the other hand, we can use the remote control to open and close the windows, while North American models can only open the windows remotely...
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| 14071984 (151hp) | Hi everyone...Is there an option to activate/disarm the alarm? I only understand the visual but not the sound! I searched in the manual and in the i-drive itself and didn't find such an option. Maybe it's not allowed in Europe?
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| WingZeroX5 (579hp) | Petros, try this from the I-drive menu. Menu->, Settings->, Door locks. There should be an acoustic signal when the case is unlocked/locked. PS - thanks for posting the pictures of your car a while ago. I enjoyed them in anticipation of mine which was similar.
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| christiana (954hp) | I wonder if mine will have this option. I left my 320si unlocked several times while visiting a customer or outside my home..
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| tiberius (853hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Magic Petros, try this from the I-Drive menu. Menu->, Settings->, Door locks. There should be an acoustic signal when the case is unlocked/locked. PS - thanks for posting the pictures of your car a while ago. I enjoyed them in anticipation of mine which were similar. I don't remember seeing this in the idrive menu... Do you have it in yours?
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| guitarra1 (275hp) | Quote: Posted by ddd269 I don't remember seeing this in the idrive menu... Do you have it in yours? Yes. This is the sequence in mine to turn the chirp on and off when you lock/unlock the doors..
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| loreen (387hp) | I don't have that either! I guess a visit to the thief is imminent!
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| 071081 (199hp) | It's in mine too. How is it possible that it's not in yours??
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| 122188 (113hp) | Quote: Originally posted by blulite This is in mine too. How is it possible that it's not in yours? It's the same on the 3 series, the European models don't have any chirping sound. On the other hand, we can use the remote control to open and close the windows, while North American models can only open the windows remotely...
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| 04031994 (147hp) | Hello everyone, We just ordered a BMW 535i and were wondering if the September production changes also affected Canada. Our dealer can get us an August version, but we were planning to wait until the September changes were made. In this case it would be an October release since it says September production is full. Our dealership doesn't seem to know anything about these changes, but said they would look into it. I couldn't find any specific information for Canada, but I assume the changes will apply to us as well. THANKS. Doug
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| clyde123 (764hp) | Well, unless your thief manages to find the exact specs you want anywhere other than the main Dingolfing factory. It will now be the new model year. The factory is now at a standstill. They normally retool and do other maintenance during this time, so I don't see any new car builds happening. Production resumes in September. Ask the thief what build slot he has and what week it will be built.
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| asdf00 (692hp) | Yes, the Canadian versions will have new features. Ask them for the Canadian Dealer Product Planning Bulletin 5 Series-MY11-05 which was released on 07/16/10 and which explains in detail what is included in the September releases. I don't have a copy (yet) but I took many detailed notes. Also see my article with comments on the Xdrive which had details on the September Canadian releases. http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411978
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| drknow (405hp) | Thanks for the information. I thought the changes would also apply to Canada.
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| eggroll1 (166hp) | Hello everyone, We just ordered a BMW 535i and were wondering if the September production changes also affected Canada. Our dealer can get us an August version, but we were planning to wait until the September changes were made. In this case it would be an October release since it says September production is full. Our dealership doesn't seem to know anything about these changes, but said they would look into it. I couldn't find any specific information for Canada, but I assume the changes will apply to us as well. THANKS. Doug
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| august06 (635hp) | Well, unless your thief manages to find the exact specs you want anywhere other than the main Dingolfing factory. It will now be the new model year. The factory is now at a standstill. They normally retool and do other maintenance during this time, so I don't see any new car builds happening. Production resumes in September. Ask the thief what build slot he has and what week it will be built.
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| 07021985 (326hp) | Yes, the Canadian versions will have new features. Ask them for the Canadian Dealer Product Planning Bulletin 5 Series-MY11-05 which was released on 07/16/10 and which explains in detail what is included in the September releases. I don't have a copy (yet) but I took many detailed notes. Also see my article with comments on the Xdrive which had details on the September Canadian releases. http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411978
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| guessit1 (693hp) | Thanks for the information. I thought the changes would also apply to Canada.
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| eddie3 (933hp) | This should be a September release, hopefully it will ship by end of October or beginning of November. I got a good deal on the listing, but the dealer is trying to sell Resistall and 5 year tire insurance for $1100. What are people's thoughts on either? Imperial Blue, Venetian Beige, Sport and just about everything else
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| 1beauty (479hp) | I did not receive the M-sport package?
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