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| mikhailova-w (506hp) | So I got my grille from Taiwan and it arrived pretty quickly, just a week actually. The installation was very easy and took 15 minutes. As you can see in the shot of the car with one of the grilles, the difference is quite significant. Once both are on, the difference is pretty minimal. I don't like the grille on the F10, I think it makes the front of the car look too much like the old 3 Series. Black kidney grilles don't look particularly good with space gray as a color as they take away the elegance of the car. This grid keeps it. It came with an M5 badge, but there's no chance this 520d deserves that badge. If anyone would like the link to this grill let me know it costs £100 including delivery.
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| chapis (276hp) | Quote: Originally posted by remmib End of discussion. +1 My brother has the II in dark graphite metallic and the twin-spoke kidney grilles in glossy black which really show off the front end.
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| cookie19 (866hp) | Hello, I just bought a new 550i (my fifth 5 series car and my second 550i) and noticed that there are no Office feature settings in the menu. This was an option I used all the time in my last car to read emails (or have them read to me) from my work Blackberry. I saw a thread here that I can't find at the moment that was about BimmerTech. I contacted them and they confirmed that my car's VIN number was eligible for EBT coding. Has anyone else done this here? I'm in the US, but as far as I know this can also be done remotely. Also, does anyone know if there are any warranty issues after this is done? Any feedback you can provide would be helpful. Thanks!
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| loreta (425hp) | Adding office functions does not affect the reliability of the vehicle or the infotainment system. However, you can deny warranty claims if your infotainment fails because you have tampered/modified one of their systems. I believe all warranties deny coverage if you have something changed. But you can take them to civil court in this case. If you just unlock features that already exist, it shouldn't affect reliability. Technically speaking, you haven't changed the vehicle. It's up to the judge how he interprets it.
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| azerty77 (241hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 493263 Adding an Office feature does not affect the reliability of the vehicle or the infotainment system. However, you can deny warranty claims if your infotainment fails because you have tampered/modified one of their systems. I believe all warranties deny coverage if you have something changed. But you can take them to civil court in this case. If you just unlock features that already exist, it shouldn't affect reliability. Technically speaking, you haven't changed the vehicle. It's up to the judge how he interprets it. This activation is transparent for BMW dealers. Your diagnostic computer does not detect any tampering or modifications. There is no risk of voiding the warranty.
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| 270186 (782hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Patrys@BimmerTech. This activation is transparent for BMW dealers. Your diagnostic computer does not detect any tampering or modifications. There is no risk of voiding the warranty. +!
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| gibsonlx (988hp) | So can this be programmed for all F10 5 series or does an additional module need to be purchased for this to work??
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| mike08 (55hp) | Quote: Originally written by Carbonm3ny. So can this be programmed for all F10 5 series or does an additional module need to be purchased to make it work? Email us your VIN and we will confirm whether you need additional hardware or just software activation.
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| virus (284hp) | Thanks for the answers. I'll do that and let everyone know how it goes.
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| gabriel14 (343hp) | Hello, I just bought a new 550i (my fifth 5 series car and my second 550i) and noticed that there are no Office feature settings in the menu. This was an option I used all the time in my last car to read emails (or have them read to me) from my work Blackberry. I saw a thread here that I can't find at the moment that was about BimmerTech. I made contact and they confirmed that my car's VIN number was eligible for EBT coding. Has anyone else done this here? I'm in the US, but as far as I know this can also be done remotely. Also, does anyone know if there are any warranty issues after this is done? Any feedback you can provide would be helpful. Thanks!
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| 26081990 (720hp) | Adding office functions does not affect the reliability of the vehicle or the infotainment system. However, you can deny warranty claims if your infotainment fails because you have tampered/modified one of their systems. I believe all warranties deny coverage if you have something changed. But you can take them to civil court in this case. If you just unlock features that already exist, it shouldn't affect reliability. Technically speaking, you haven't changed the vehicle. It's up to the judge how he interprets it.
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| 261196 (916hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 493263 Adding an Office feature does not affect the reliability of the vehicle or the infotainment system. However, you can deny warranty claims if your infotainment fails because you have tampered/modified one of their systems. I believe all warranties deny coverage if you have something changed. But you can take them to civil court in this case. If you just unlock features that already exist, it shouldn't affect reliability. Technically speaking, you haven't changed the vehicle. It's up to the judge how he interprets it. This activation is transparent for BMW dealers. Your diagnostic computer does not detect any tampering or modifications. There is no risk of voiding the warranty.
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| F10qimon (848hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Patrys@BimmerTech. This activation is transparent for BMW dealers. Your diagnostic computer does not detect any tampering or modifications. There is no risk of voiding the warranty. +!
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| volvic (508hp) | So can this be programmed for all F10 5 series or does an additional module need to be purchased for this to work??
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| chrisn78 (783hp) | Quote: Originally written by Carbonm3ny. So can this be programmed for all F10 5 series or does an additional module need to be purchased to make it work? Email us your VIN and we will confirm whether you need additional hardware or just software activation.
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| rocky111 (992hp) | Thanks for the answers. I'll do that and let everyone know how it goes.
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| myebiz123 (206hp) | I ordered a rear diffuser for my 2013 550i M-Sport and received the one in the picture. When I looked at my original, I noticed that these tabs didn't stick out. When I told the seller he insisted it should fit. Does anyone have experience with this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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| m1m2m3m4m5 (962hp) | That's because the diffuser you have is the one you normally use for an M5 bumper. Since you have the Msport, I think you need the mount to attach these three tabs to.
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| company123 (759hp) | Hmmmm... Has anyone done this before???
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| cheers1 (324hp) | Quote: Originally written by satzinger Hmmmm... Has anyone ever done that? Yes! Nothing new...see the DIY threads
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| 120291 (526hp) | I ordered a rear diffuser for my 2013 550i M-Sport and received the one in the picture. When I looked at my original, I noticed that these tabs didn't stick out. When I told the seller he insisted it should fit. Does anyone have experience with this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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| gaygaygay (454hp) | That's because the diffuser you have is the one you normally use for an M5 bumper. Since you have the Msport, I think you need the mount to attach these three tabs to.
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| katten (951hp) | Hmmmm... Has anyone done this before???
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| [email protected] (578hp) | Quote: Originally written by satzinger Hmmmm... Has anyone ever done that? Yes! Nothing new...see the DIY threads
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| 100795 (107hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NikoNJ +1 My brother has a Dark Graphite Metallic II and he got the twin spoke kidney grilles in gloss black which really shows off the front end. Looks really good, man!!! It's a shame that here in the UK we have hideous, stupid white number plates that sit right under the grill. The problem is that the matte black on the gray just makes it look silly with the white license plate, but works on white and black. I really wish we had smaller plates like Italy, but we love the country ANPR!
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| smackthat1 (182hp) | I have the black grills on my Jet Black 535. I like them. I wish I could get rid of the chrome shine on my door handles.
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| sticazzi (356hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NewM3driver I have the black grills on my Jet Black 535. I like them. I wish I could get rid of the chrome shine on my door handles. You can have the chrome vinyl wrapped. I finished mine...
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| emily18 (54hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NikoNJ +1 My brother has a Dark Graphite Metallic II and he got the twin spoke kidney grilles in gloss black which really shows off the front end. Looks really good, man!!! It's a shame that here in the UK we have hideous, stupid white number plates that sit right under the grill. The problem is that the matte black on the gray just makes it look silly with the white license plate, but works on white and black. I really wish we had smaller plates like Italy, but we love the country ANPR!
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| tinker09 (253hp) | I have the black grills on my Jet Black 535. I like them. I wish I could get rid of the chrome shine on my door handles.
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| chocha (779hp) | Quote: Originally posted by NewM3driver I have the black grills on my Jet Black 535. I like them. I wish I could get rid of the chrome shine on my door handles. You can have the chrome vinyl wrapped. I finished mine...
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| olivia3 (822hp) | Had a front license plate holder that had to go. I picked up some car door/panel mortise fasteners and some glossy color matching spray paint. Previously, I painted the lower bumper grill completely black and decided to paint the middle section along with the fasteners. Looks much better and breaks the 535i smile. Next year I'll build an Msport bumper, but I'll get by with that for now.
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| cole11 (573hp) | Looks good! The double slat grills are black, right? Just a lot of shine. I couldn't tell if the slats were chrome?
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| kmdtyjr (72hp) | Thanks Teg. Yes, they are the glossy black double slats. Got them from RW Carbon for about $130. I know my pictures aren't great, I only have a droid mini camera.
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| vaz2112 (362hp) | Quote: Originally written by VB5ER Thanks Teg. Yes, they are the glossy black double slats. Got them from RW Carbon for about $130. I know my pictures aren't great, I only have a droid mini camera. Haha, don't worry! You should put a 3D design front lip and have it painted the same color as your car...would definitely look bad! . We both have the same front bumpers.
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| cowboys11 (185hp) | Had a front license plate holder that had to go. I picked up some car door/panel mortise fasteners and some glossy color matching spray paint. Previously, I painted the lower bumper grill completely black and decided to paint the middle section along with the fasteners. Looks much better and breaks the 535i smile. Next year I'll build an M Sport bumper, but I'll get by with that for now.
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| sanfran1 (913hp) | Looks good! The double slat grills are black, right? Just a lot of shine. I couldn't tell if the slats were chrome?
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| manson6 (786hp) | Thanks Teg. Yes, they are the glossy black double slats. Got them from RW Carbon for about $130. I know my pictures aren't great, I only have a droid mini camera.
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| 52255225 (488hp) | Quote: Originally written by VB5ER Thanks Teg. Yes, they are the glossy black double slats. Got them from RW Carbon for about $130. I know my pictures aren't great, I only have a droid mini camera. Haha, don't worry! You should put a 3D design front lip and have it painted the same color as your car...would definitely look bad! . We both have the same front bumpers.
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| 131283 (852hp) | I have a 2011 F10 with a fixed back seat and I hate it. Without this feature, the car loses a lot of utility. BMW finally did the right thing by making it standard on all 2014 LCIs. I'm wondering if anyone knows what would be involved with retrofitting the 60/40 split folding rear seatbacks? I know it's all mechanical, but I have no idea whether such a retrofit would be relatively easy to snap out and snap into place or would turn out to be a total PITA, requiring holes and/or slots to be drilled and/or punched into the internal structure Also, the upper trunk lip (the plate at the base of the rear window) is pre-drilled to accommodate the left and right rear seat levers. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with such an exchange? Thanks!
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| 270986 (925hp) | It wasn't until I checked after delivery that I realized my car wasn't equipped with it. My E46 has the folding seat, I thought that was standard. Dumbest option ever, should have been standard all along. Look at the bottom of the shelf in your trunk. I would think the holes would already be there. I doubt they drill new holes in the car when assembling it at the factory.
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| 120695 (446hp) | I agree, I got the surprise with my ex-E60 when I talked about making every dam thing an option! It all depends on the frame configuration. Does this mean that based on the available option on all vehicles the support is mounted on the frame behind the seats and whether the folding seat fits on BMW or not depends on the order?!
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| pink45 (58hp) | Well...there are mounting holes for the actuators...BMW speaks for the left and right seat release levers and cables, so that's a good thing, but after looking at the parts diagram http://bmwofmtlaurelpartsgiant.com/p. ..iagram=1913590, I would need a new luggage rack (the rear shelf) and all the components would cost about $2500. That's too steep for a 4 year old car with 48,000 km on the clock. This was a standalone option for $475 for 2011/12 and was included in the 2012 Cold WX package. This is really only feasible if I could find a 2011-2013 (I don't know if the same parts would work with an LCI). ) at a junkyard that had no damage to the back seat area and if I could salvage it for a reasonable price then I would have my Oyster Nappa leather fitted for the back seat backs at an upholstery shop unless I was REALLY lucky and found one in Oyster.
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| benji2 (987hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Skibum Well...there are mounting holes for the actuators...BMW speaks for the left and right seat release levers and cables, so that's a good thing, but after looking at the parts diagram http://bmwofmtlaurelpartsgiant .com/p...iagram=1913590, I would need a new luggage rack (the rear shelf) and all the components would cost about $2500. That's too steep for a 4 year old car with 48,000 km on the clock. This was a standalone option for $475 for 2011/12 and was included in the 2012 Cold WX package. This is really only feasible if I could find a 2011-2013 (I don't know if the same parts would work with an LCI). ) at a junkyard that had no damage to the back seat area and if I could salvage it for a reasonable price then I would have my Oyster Nappa leather fitted for the back seat backs at an upholstery shop unless I was REALLY lucky and found one in Oyster. At this price, it is better to rent a van if necessary!
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| italian1 (762hp) | BMW makes everything OPTIONAL! Luckily my 550i has the folding rear seat
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| lolo99 (648hp) | Very true Spyroz, although the 5 series is getting better in this regard. Split/folding rear seats became standard in 2013. Now only if they brought the F11 here! That won't happen as they would never spend that much money crash testing/fed approval etc as there are only two model years left. In the meantime, I have a local body shop looking for an undamaged split-folding rear seatback and associated parts from a salvaged F10, so we'll see. Quote: Originally written by spyroz BMW makes everything OPTIONAL! Luckily my 550i has the folding rear seat
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| ghjcnbvtyz (880hp) | The folding back seat was very useful during my moving and IKEA trips. However, I know people who bought the 2011 models when they first came out in 2010 where the cold weather package was not an option. I can tell you it drives them crazy, but the high cost of switching just doesn't make sense. With the knowledge of early adopters, I made sure to buy my car with a build date after March 2011. My blacked out dash, folding rear seats, HUD with expanded LCD dash, and 4 zone air conditioning made it much better. The only thing I wanted and didn't get were the multi-contour seats with side bolsters, which didn't exist until then 2013.
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| kingkong12 (467hp) | Quote: Originally written by Skibum. In the meantime, I have a local body shop looking for an undamaged split-folding rear seatback and associated parts from a salvaged F10, so we'll see. Good luck, it will be interesting if one ever shows up. The fact that this is offered as an option on a car in this price range is just stupid. I mean how much could it possibly cost to produce this and offer it as a standard option to the buyer who already spends a lot of money on this model (yes, I know BMW changed this in later models and luckily my car was with that equipped), but still there is no excuse for this to be an option. I remember reviewing (briefly) a few 528 models, and the lack of pass-through was even a deal breaker for me personally (among other things).).
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| 04031994 (301hp) | Quote: Originally written by Skibum. Very true Spyroz, although the 5 series is getting better in this regard. Split/folding rear seats became standard in 2013. Now only if they brought the F11 here! That won't happen as they would never spend that much money crash testing/fed approval etc as there are only two model years left. In the meantime, I have a local body shop looking for an undamaged split-folding rear seatback and associated parts from a salvaged F10, so we'll see. I thought the lack of F11 for you was due to the market and demand. Certainly the F11 should be able to keep up with the F10 in crash tests! Just like the M5 manual transmission, which is only available in the USA.
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| Stryder66 (729hp) | Split/folding rear seats are still a paid option here in the UK as of June 2014 (lci) when I ordered mine!
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| irshad (971hp) | I'm wondering if there are differences in the unibody frame or the bracing of the folding rear seats.
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| killer44 (127hp) | It is almost never worth retrofitting a car with a missing option. I think your research proves that. I think it would be better to look for a newer car with more warranty that has the options you want and can trade in.
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| 708090 (411hp) | Hello, does anyone know if the 5GT roof rack fits the F10? Same problem here, no folding back seat. Thanks, G.
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| sneha (272hp) | So, Skibum, I researched the same thing. Please tell me more. They say the new luggage rack (the rear shelf) needs to be replaced. I can't find that part on the breakout you referenced in your post? I found a seat that happens to fit my car for $1,000, so I'm trying to figure out if I missed something... I have an F10, a 535IX with M-Sport, but no damn jump seat. I race bikes and started racing in the evenings and I have to leave my expensive bike in the trunk and the damn thing is two inches too big for the trunk. Michael
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| 18051988 (917hp) | I have a 2011 F10 with a fixed back seat and I hate it. Without this feature, the car loses a lot of utility. BMW finally did the right thing by making it standard on all 2014 LCIs. I'm wondering if anyone knows what would be involved with retrofitting the 60/40 split folding rear seatbacks? I know it's all mechanical, but I have no idea whether such a retrofit would be relatively easy to snap out and snap into place or would turn out to be a total PITA, requiring holes and/or slots to be drilled and/or punched into the internal structure Also, the upper trunk lip (the plate at the base of the rear window) is pre-drilled to accommodate the left and right rear seat levers. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with such an exchange? Thanks!
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| blake10 (181hp) | It wasn't until I checked after delivery that I realized my car wasn't equipped with it. My E46 has the folding seat, I thought that was standard. Dumbest option ever, should have been standard all along. Look at the bottom of the shelf in your trunk. I would think the holes would already be there. I doubt they drill new holes in the car when assembling it at the factory.
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| francais (945hp) | I agree, I got the surprise with my ex-E60 when I talked about making every dam thing an option! It all depends on the frame configuration. Does this mean that based on the available option on all vehicles the support is mounted on the frame behind the seats and whether the folding seat fits on BMW or not depends on the order?!
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| 211177 (750hp) | Well...there are mounting holes for the actuators...BMW speaks for the left and right seat release levers and cables, so that's a good thing, but after looking at the parts diagram http://bmwofmtlaurelpartsgiant.com/p. ..iagram=1913590, I would need a new luggage rack (the rear shelf) and all the components would cost about $2500. That's too steep for a 4 year old car with 48,000 km on the clock. This was a standalone option for $475 for 2011/12 and was included in the 2012 Cold WX package. This is really only feasible if I could find a 2011-2013 (I don't know if the same parts would work with an LCI). ) at a junkyard that had no damage to the back seat area and if I could salvage it for a reasonable price then I would have my Oyster Nappa leather fitted for the back seat backs at an upholstery shop unless I was REALLY lucky and found one in Oyster.
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| 060392 (635hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Skibum Well...there are mounting holes for the actuators...BMW speaks for the left and right seat release levers and cables, so that's a good thing, but after looking at the parts diagram http://bmwofmtlaurelpartsgiant .com/p...iagram=1913590, I would need a new luggage rack (the rear shelf) and all the components would cost about $2500. That's too steep for a 4 year old car with 48,000 km on the clock. This was a standalone option for $475 for 2011/12 and was included in the 2012 Cold WX package. This is really only feasible if I could find a 2011-2013 (I don't know if the same parts would work with an LCI). ) at a junkyard that had no damage to the back seat area and if I could salvage it for a reasonable price then I would have my Oyster Nappa leather fitted for the back seat backs at an upholstery shop unless I was REALLY lucky and found one in Oyster. At this price, it is better to rent a van if necessary!
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| bulldog69 (200hp) | BMW makes everything OPTIONAL! Luckily my 550i has the folding rear seat
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| thomas6 (605hp) | Very true Spyroz, although the 5 series is getting better in this regard. Split/folding rear seats became standard in 2013. Now only if they brought the F11 here! That won't happen as they would never spend that much money crash testing/fed approval etc as there are only two model years left. In the meantime, I have a local body shop looking for an undamaged split-folding rear seatback and associated parts from a salvaged F10, so we'll see. Quote: Originally written by spyroz BMW makes everything OPTIONAL! Luckily my 550i has the folding rear seat
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| remote1 (401hp) | The folding back seat was very useful during my moving and IKEA trips. However, I know people who bought the 2011 models when they first came out in 2010 where the cold weather package was not an option. I can tell you it drives them crazy, but the high cost of switching just doesn't make sense. With the knowledge of early adopters, I made sure to buy my car with a build date after March 2011. My blacked out dash, folding rear seats, HUD with expanded LCD dash, and 4 zone air conditioning made it much better. The only thing I wanted and didn't get were the multi-contour seats with side bolsters, which didn't exist until then 2013.
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| catsdogs (395hp) | Quote: Originally written by Skibum. In the meantime, I have a local body shop looking for an undamaged split-folding rear seatback and associated parts from a salvaged F10, so we'll see. Good luck, it will be interesting if one ever shows up. The fact that this is offered as an option on a car in this price range is just stupid. I mean how much could it possibly cost to produce this and offer it as a standard option to the buyer who already spends a lot of money on this model (yes, I know BMW changed this in later models and luckily my car was with that equipped), but still there is no excuse for this to be an option. I remember reviewing (briefly) a few 528 models, and the lack of pass-through was even a deal breaker for me personally (among other things).).
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| 100281 (782hp) | Quote: Originally written by Skibum. Very true Spyroz, although the 5 series is getting better in this regard. Split/folding rear seats became standard in 2013. Now only if they brought the F11 here! That won't happen as they would never spend that much money crash testing/fed approval etc as there are only two model years left. In the meantime, I have a local body shop looking for an undamaged split-folding rear seatback and associated parts from a salvaged F10, so we'll see. I thought the lack of F11 for you was due to the market and demand. Certainly the F11 should be able to keep up with the F10 in crash tests! Just like the M5 manual transmission, which is only available in the USA.
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| dirtydog (184hp) | Split/folding rear seats are still a paid option here in the UK as of June 2014 (lci) when I ordered mine!
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| witcher (304hp) | I'm wondering if there are differences in the unibody frame or the bracing of the folding rear seats.
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| softball02 (989hp) | It is almost never worth retrofitting a car with a missing option. I think your research proves that. I think it would be better to look for a newer car with more warranty that has the options you want and can trade in.
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| heehee (802hp) | Hello, does anyone know if the 5GT roof rack fits the F10? Same problem here, no folding back seat. Thanks, G.
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| Archiebabes (908hp) | So, Skibum, I researched the same thing. Please tell me more. They say the new luggage rack (the rear shelf) needs to be replaced. I can't find that part on the breakout you referenced in your post? I found a seat that happens to fit my car for $1,000, so I'm trying to figure out if I missed something... I have an F10, a 535IX with M-Sport, but no damn jump seat. I race bikes and started racing in the evenings and I have to leave my expensive bike in the trunk and the damn thing is two inches too big for the trunk. Michael
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| probation1 (884hp) | I saw a post here from other members about purchasing a replacement tire after switching to run-flat tires. I'm in the same situation here, but I'm wondering what you think about those cans you can buy at any auto parts store that can fix a flat tire? Would that work? Is it more convenient than getting a real spare tire? and also cheaper
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| adams1 (265hp) | It could be. Honestly, a $20 air compressor that plugs into the lighter is probably better. Any tire with a leak small enough to be repaired with a can can be easily inflated without risk of messing up the TPMS sensors. You may need to add air every hour, but you're moving. However, if you have a puncture at high speed or a tire really breaks in a pothole, you will need a replacement tire or a rollback.
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| dominic5 (26hp) | This Conti Comfort Kit is used by many people. Several car manufacturers include this kit on their vehicles that do not have spare tires. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=38 More information: http://www.continentaltire.ca/www/do...ort_pdf_en.pdf This is basically the same thing, just for reference cost half. Consumerreports said it was basically the same as the Conti kit, but it took a little longer to fill the tire. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...9NY511YSB75Z6N A bonus of these kits is that you get a compressor to properly inflate your tires or other inflatable items around the house. BMW has its mobility kit, but it costs about $130. Some sealants are safe for use with TPMS, but others are not. This is what you should pay attention to. The cans also work, but are not that easy to use and there is a small risk of the pressurized can exploding in a really hot trunk. CR testing also showed that the cans don't seal large nail holes well, but are fine for smaller holes.
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| gustavo12 (642hp) | Thank you. I will definitely get these to replace the spare tire. It's much more comfortable to wear these than a hoop. But is it a one time use or a reuse??
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| friends4me (996hp) | Sealant-based solutions like spays or comfort kits are fine (easy to use and inexpensive), but they do have some drawbacks. Let me explain. 1. After applying the spray or kit, you will have to drive to a tire service anyway. There you pay for regular wheel repair/balancing and also for washing the entire tire, rim and TPMS from the sticky gunk that sealants always become. 2. If your wheel is large (e.g. send 20-21 of 285-295). The sprays have tire width specifications up to... so one spray may not be enough. You have to pay attention whether the spray is fresh or not, it could be old (also the kit). 3. A pothole can not only damage a rubber tire, but it can also damage your rim. Glue and kits don't help at all here. 4. Both with the spray and the comfort kit - you never know how big the puncture is. You may be faced with a large hole in the sidewall. So what happens next? Good if you were driving through the Los Angeles area and not on Nevada State Highway 50. Bottom line: Use whatever makes you feel safe.)) But if you are driving longer distances, better rent the OEM one Space saver from another smart BMW buddy)
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| 170392 (237hp) | Quote: Originally written by jasonle89 Thank you. I will definitely get these to replace the spare tire. It's much more comfortable to wear these than a hoop. But is it a one-time use or can it be reused? You will need to purchase a new container of sealant after each use, but not a whole set. These kits are not without drawbacks, but they are quicker and safer than changing tires at the side of the road. In the event of a catastrophic failure, simply call roadside assistance (AAA, tire manufacturer, BMW, or whatever you have). The solution depends somewhat on where you live. Catastrophic failures are more likely in areas prone to freeze-thaw cycles. Here in So. Cal, big potholes aren't common, and in my experience (knock on wood) flat tires are rare, so it's just insurance against the occasional flat tire where you can't limp home.
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| parrish (762hp) | Quote: Originally posted by valbmw Sealant based solutions like spays or comfort kits are fine (easy to use and cheap), but have some drawbacks. Let me explain. 1. After applying the spray or kit, you will have to drive to a tire service anyway. There you pay for regular wheel repair/balancing and also for washing the entire tire, rim and TPMS from the sticky gunk that sealants always become. 2. If your wheel is large (e.g. send 20-21 of 285-295). The sprays have tire width specifications up to... so one spray may not be enough. You have to pay attention whether the spray is fresh or not, it could be old (also the kit). 3. A pothole can not only damage a rubber tire, but it can also damage your rim. Glue and kits don't help at all here. 4. Both with the spray and the comfort kit - you never know how big the puncture is. You may be faced with a large hole in the sidewall. So what happens next? Good if you were driving around Los Angeles area, not on Nevada State Highway 50. Bottom line: Use whatever makes you feel safe.)) But if you are driving longer distances, better rent the OEM one Space saver from another smart BMW buddy.) Attachment 1242068 Your points make sense. Are the photos you attached of the entire replacement tire set they sell or do you have to purchase it separately? If it's a complete kit, I have a link??
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| 270283 (88hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jasonle89 Your points make perfect sense. Are the photos you attached of the entire replacement tire set they sell or do you have to purchase it separately? If it's a complete kit, do I have a link? The entire package is available from a dealer, e.g. E.g. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=36_1449. The wheel itself can be like a 17 18 19 rim to provide the necessary braking clearance. I have the 19 for 535-550 because of the big brakes. Video: http://www.bimmerzone.com/BMW_Perfor...T-F10-KIT.html Another member is right about the kits when it comes to local commuting. We all have cell phones and credit cards (I hope so). However, if you're driving 300 miles on a Friday night, it's better to have the compact spare tire with you.
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| JMD0977 (337hp) | Thank you very much. Even though I changed my bike to 20 but the original bike was 17, I guess I can still get a replacement wheel at 17?
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| 20081993 (691hp) | Quote: Originally written by jasonle89 Thank you. Even though I changed my bike to 20 but the original bike was 17, I guess I can still get a replacement wheel at 17, right? I believe so, as these are BMW OEM parts. If you don't plan on upgrading the brakes, this will fit 17.
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| batman55 (584hp) | Just one more point. You don't have to use the slime with the kits. I also carry a simple tire repair kit so you can simply pull the item out of the tire, cap the tire, then re-inflate the tire with the pump and you're good to go. Plugs are not a permanent solution, but they will easily last for several thousand miles until you can take the tire to a repair shop. I'll do whatever I can to avoid carrying a spare tire in the already small trunk to protect myself against something that happens once every ten years. http://www.amazon.com/Slime-1034-AT...2WP01B1GQJ9XY4
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| 20011982 (888hp) | Nice to see that everyone has their own solution. There is probably no ideal solution for everyone. But hopefully everyone can put their minds at ease, depending on driving conditions, personal preferences, lack of trunk space and level of paranoia. Brave people don't even spend money on insurance because everything will be fine
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| thuglife12 (638hp) | I saw a post here from other members about purchasing a replacement tire after switching to run-flat tires. I'm in the same situation here, but I'm wondering what you think about those cans you can buy at any auto parts store that can fix a flat tire? Would that work? Is it more convenient than getting a real spare tire? and also cheaper
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| montana2 (891hp) | It could be. Honestly, a $20 air compressor that plugs into the lighter is probably better. Any tire with a leak small enough to be repaired with a can can be easily inflated without risk of messing up the TPMS sensors. You may need to add air every hour, but you're moving. However, if you have a puncture at high speed or a tire really breaks in a pothole, you will need a replacement tire or a rollback.
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| 01011995 (255hp) | This Conti Comfort Kit is used by many people. Several car manufacturers include this kit on their vehicles that do not have spare tires. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=38 More information: http://www.continentaltire.ca/www/do...ort_pdf_en.pdf This is basically the same thing, just for reference cost half. Consumerreports said it was basically the same as the Conti kit, but it took a little longer to fill the tire. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...9NY511YSB75Z6N A bonus of these kits is that you get a compressor to properly inflate your tires or other inflatable items around the house. BMW has its mobility kit, but it costs about $130. Some sealants are safe for use with TPMS, but others are not. This is what you should pay attention to. The cans also work, but are not that easy to use and there is a small risk of the pressurized can exploding in a really hot trunk. CR testing also showed that the cans don't seal large nail holes well, but are fine for smaller holes.
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| brian4 (695hp) | Thank you. I will definitely get these to replace the spare tire. It's much more comfortable to wear these than a hoop. But is it a one time use or a reuse??
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| regis (650hp) | Sealant-based solutions like spays or comfort kits are fine (easy to use and inexpensive), but they do have some drawbacks. Let me explain. 1. After applying the spray or kit, you will have to drive to a tire service anyway. There you pay for regular wheel repair/balancing and also for washing the entire tire, rim and TPMS from the sticky gunk that sealants always become. 2. If your wheel is large (e.g. send 20-21 of 285-295). The sprays have tire width specifications up to... so one spray may not be enough. You have to pay attention whether the spray is fresh or not, it could be old (also the kit). 3. A pothole can not only damage a rubber tire, but it can also damage your rim. Glue and kits don't help at all here. 4. Both with the spray and the comfort kit - you never know how big the puncture is. You may be faced with a large hole in the sidewall. So what happens next? Good if you were driving through the Los Angeles area and not on Nevada State Highway 50. Bottom line: Use whatever makes you feel safe.)) But if you are driving longer distances, better rent the OEM one Space saver from another smart BMW buddy)
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| 852147 (874hp) | Quote: Originally written by jasonle89 Thank you. I will definitely get these to replace the spare tire. It's much more comfortable to wear these than a hoop. But is it a one-time use or can it be reused? You will need to purchase a new container of sealant after each use, but not a whole set. These kits are not without drawbacks, but they are quicker and safer than changing tires at the side of the road. In the event of a catastrophic failure, simply call roadside assistance (AAA, tire manufacturer, BMW, or whatever you have). The solution depends somewhat on where you live. Catastrophic failures are more likely in areas prone to freeze-thaw cycles. Here in So. Cal, big potholes aren't common, and in my experience (knock on wood) flat tires are rare, so it's just insurance against the occasional flat tire where you can't limp home.
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| beasley1 (485hp) | Quote: Originally posted by valbmw Sealant based solutions like spays or comfort kits are fine (easy to use and cheap), but have some drawbacks. Let me explain. 1. After applying the spray or kit, you will have to drive to a tire service anyway. There you pay for regular wheel repair/balancing and also for washing the entire tire, rim and TPMS from the sticky gunk that sealants always become. 2. If your wheel is large (e.g. send 20-21 of 285-295). The sprays have tire width specifications up to... so one spray may not be enough. You have to pay attention whether the spray is fresh or not, it could be old (also the kit). 3. A pothole can not only damage a rubber tire, but it can also damage your rim. Glue and kits don't help at all here. 4. Both with the spray and the comfort kit - you never know how big the puncture is. You may be faced with a large hole in the sidewall. So what happens next? Good if you were driving around Los Angeles area, not on Nevada State Highway 50. Bottom line: Use whatever makes you feel safe.)) But if you are driving longer distances, better rent the OEM one Space saver from another smart BMW buddy.) Attachment 1242068 Your points make sense. Are the photos you attached of the entire replacement tire set they sell or do you have to purchase it separately? If it's a complete kit, I have a link??
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| 010785 (161hp) | Quote: Originally posted by jasonle89 Your points make perfect sense. From the photos you attached, are they of the entire replacement tire set they sell or do you have to purchase them separately? If it's a complete kit, do I have a link? The entire package is available from a dealer, e.g. E.g. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=36_1449. The wheel itself can be like a 17 18 19 rim to provide the necessary braking clearance. I have the 19 for 535-550 because of the big brakes. Video: http://www.bimmerzone.com/BMW_Perfor...T-F10-KIT.html Another member is right about the kits when it comes to local commuting. We all have cell phones and credit cards (I hope so). However, if you're driving 300 miles on a Friday night, it's better to have the compact spare tire with you.
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| 120108 (881hp) | Thank you very much. Even though I changed my bike to 20 but the original bike was 17, I guess I can still get a replacement wheel at 17?
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| ~evil_evooooo~ (285hp) | Quote: Originally written by jasonle89 Thank you. Even though I changed my bike to 20 but the original bike was 17, I guess I can still get a replacement wheel at 17, right? I believe so, as these are BMW OEM parts. If you don't plan on upgrading the brakes, this will fit 17.
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| 200477 (667hp) | Just one more point. You don't have to use the slime with the kits. I also carry a simple tire repair kit so you can simply pull the item out of the tire, cap the tire, then re-inflate the tire with the pump and you're good to go. Plugs are not a permanent solution, but they will easily last for several thousand miles until you can take the tire to a repair shop. I'll do whatever I can to avoid carrying a spare tire in the already small trunk to protect myself against something that happens once every ten years. http://www.amazon.com/Slime-1034-AT...2WP01B1GQJ9XY4
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| пїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅпїЅ (118hp) | Nice to see that everyone has their own solution. There is probably no ideal solution for everyone. But hopefully everyone can put their minds at ease, depending on driving conditions, personal preferences, lack of trunk space and level of paranoia. Brave people don't even spend money on insurance because everything will be fine
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| Arumeen (834hp) | That's why I've been scouring tire reviews for the past few days, looking for a performance-oriented tire that puts ride quality at the top of my priority list. I like to take a pretty hard turn every now and then, but I spend a lot more time driving over poorly maintained roads (no potholes, just rough and bumpy). Note: The car is lowered slightly on the KW V2 models, leaving just under two fingers, and runs on the standard OEM 19 351m rims. I've narrowed the choice down to these two tires (Bridgestone S04 and Conti DW summer tires are also possible, but I'm currently focusing on Michelin). PSS: People rave about the Michelin PSS, but I worry that the professional reviews give the PSS relatively low ride quality scores. Nothing really bad, but the fact that it rides stiffly and is completely fine on uneven surfaces - all understandable for a high-performance tire. The grip is crazy though, although I can't imagine ever pushing my car to the horsepower limits. A/S 3: Yes, it's an all-season tire, which I don't need here on the Southern California coast, but reviews say it's more like a summer UHP tire than a typical all-season UHP and is still more comfortable (although not the). most convenient UHP). The handling and cornering values are the best in the category, but are well behind the PSS. Soooooo, we would really appreciate any thoughts on this choice. Thanks.
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| Softwareguy14 (505hp) | Get the PSS and don't look back. Assuming you drive with run-flat vehicles, you will feel much more comfortable when driving every day.
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| tomjones (942hp) | ^Yes! Go for the PSS, I chose the AS3 and I love it, but if I was in your climate/location all day I would go for the PSS!
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| jennifer11 (713hp) | PSS
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| weiner (350hp) | I have PSS and it really makes a big difference over the stock Goodyears. Smoother driving behavior and much more grip in the corners. My only complaint is that they are a little louder, but after a day or so I got used to it.
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| green16 (169hp) | The Goodyears are fine when driving on smooth roads, but I feel like I'm driving a dump truck (as another member once put it) when I hit bad sections of road - really hard. A low-profile tire can't do much, but I expect a significant increase in driving comfort. What got me thinking is that the folks at Tire Rack gave the PSS a pretty low ride comfort rating, but users tell an opposite story, and Consumer Reports gives the PSS an above average ride comfort rating. There's no way I'm thinking about it too much. No, not a chance
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| sweetie4 (612hp) | I don't have PSS installed on my F10 (yet), but I have run PSS and PS2 on other platforms (E46, E90, E39) and absolutely love them. I have more comfort problems with my F10 without sports suspension with runflat LS2 than with PSS/PS2 with 704 or 223 sports suspension.
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| marlon (170hp) | I can confirm that the harshness (dump truck feeling) disappeared as soon as I switched from the LS2 to the PSS. I was really surprised at how big a difference there was when switching to PSS.
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| babyj1 (682hp) | Thank you for all your help! Since you subtly hinted that the PSS might be the best choice, I ordered it from Tirerack this evening. Costco isn't offering a $70 discount on Michelin this month, but TireRack is, so it's a small bonus that covers shipping costs. Tires are drop-shipped to a local installer who has a leverless machine. This one indeed: Thank you again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noPcIm2vMMA
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| 28101984 (647hp) | Congratulations on the new tires
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| 140784 (113hp) | Congratulations. I had 2 sets of PSS on my 535 and they are wonderful. Good ride quality and grip as hell. Definitely saved my back when I had to make an evasive maneuver to avoid a vehicle. The performance here is a great match for these cars.
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| dime10 (831hp) | The PSS isn't the best in wet cold, but I don't think that's a problem in California.
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| ilove! (143hp) | Quote: Originally posted by remmib The PSS isn't the best in wet cold, but I don't think that's a problem in California. Normally not. The average temperature here along the coast is in the high 50s Fahrenheit during the winter months and there isn't much rain - far too little lately. On the rare occasion that early morning temperatures dip above 40°C, I definitely have to be careful to make sure the tires are warmed up before spirited driving, but the car is in the garage, so That shouldn't be much of a problem.
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| Johnwhite (940hp) | That's why I've been scouring tire reviews for the past few days, looking for a performance-oriented tire that puts ride quality at the top of my priority list. I like to take a pretty hard turn every now and then, but I spend a lot more time driving over poorly maintained roads (no potholes, just rough and bumpy). Note: The car is lowered slightly on the KW V2 models, leaving just under two fingers, and runs on the standard OEM 19 351m rims. I've narrowed the choice down to these two tires (Bridgestone S04 and Conti DW summer tires are also possible, but I'm currently focusing on Michelin). PSS: People rave about the Michelin PSS, but I worry that the professional reviews give the PSS relatively low ride quality scores. Nothing really bad, but the fact that it rides stiffly and is completely fine on uneven surfaces - all understandable for a high-performance tire. The grip is crazy though, although I can't imagine ever pushing my car to the horsepower limits. A/S 3: Yes, it's an all-season tire, which I don't need here on the Southern California coast, but reviews say it's more like a summer UHP tire than a typical all-season UHP and is still more comfortable (although not the). most convenient UHP). The handling and cornering values are the best in the category, but are well behind the PSS. Soooooo, we would really appreciate any thoughts on this choice. Thanks.
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| 180686 (983hp) | Get the PSS and don't look back. Assuming you drive with run-flat vehicles, you will feel much more comfortable when driving every day.
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| cfymrf (896hp) | ^Yes! Go for the PSS, I chose the AS3 and I love it, but if I was in your climate/location all day I would go for the PSS!
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| blahblah2 (330hp) | PSS
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| Tachyon (173hp) | I have PSS and it really makes a big difference over the stock Goodyears. Smoother driving behavior and much more grip in the corners. My only complaint is that they are a little louder, but after a day or so I got used to it.
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| horseshoe (813hp) | The Goodyears are fine when driving on smooth roads, but I feel like I'm driving a dump truck (as another member once put it) when I hit bad sections of road - really hard. A low-profile tire can't do much, but I expect a significant increase in driving comfort. What got me thinking is that the folks at Tire Rack gave the PSS a pretty low ride comfort rating, but users tell an opposite story, and Consumer Reports gives the PSS an above average ride comfort rating. There's no way I'm thinking about it too much. No, not a chance
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| alexander12 (425hp) | I don't have PSS installed on my F10 (yet), but I have run PSS and PS2 on other platforms (E46, E90, E39) and absolutely love them. I have more comfort problems with my F10 without sports suspension with runflat LS2 than with PSS/PS2 with 704 or 223 sports suspension.
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| infamousq (863hp) | I can confirm that the harshness (dump truck feeling) disappeared as soon as I switched from the LS2 to the PSS. I was really surprised at how big a difference there was when switching to PSS.
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| 140195 (538hp) | Thank you for all your help! Since you subtly hinted that the PSS might be the best choice, I ordered it from Tirerack this evening. Costco isn't offering a $70 discount on Michelin this month, but TireRack is, so it's a small bonus that covers shipping costs. Tires are drop-shipped to a local installer who has a leverless machine. This one indeed: Thank you again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noPcIm2vMMA
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| AJ MAN (789hp) | Congratulations on the new tires
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| 25312531 (570hp) | Congratulations. I had 2 sets of PSS on my 535 and they are wonderful. Good ride quality and grip as hell. Definitely saved my back when I had to make an evasive maneuver to avoid a vehicle. The performance here is a great match for these cars.
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| hehe12 (334hp) | The PSS isn't the best in wet cold, but I don't think that's a problem in California.
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| SoCalS2k (251hp) | Quote: Originally posted by remmib The PSS isn't the best in wet cold, but I don't think that's a problem in California. Normally not. The average temperature here along the coast is in the high 50s Fahrenheit during the winter months and there isn't much rain - far too little lately. On the rare occasion that early morning temperatures dip above 40°C, I definitely have to be careful to make sure the tires are warmed up before spirited driving, but the car is in the garage, so That shouldn't be much of a problem.
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