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| marvin12 (862hp) | my commute is 20 miles of highway and five miles of high-speed urban street. Here's a look at some real data: Date Gallons Odometer MPG 07/13/2012 14,929 12614 27 07/19/2012 12,964 12967 27 07/27/2012 15,502 13368 26 08/09/2012 15,199 13,770 26 8/17/2012 14,271 14,158 27 9/14/2012 15,264 15,396 26 10/2/2012 15,646 15,788 25 12/9/2012 14,290 17,362 N/A 12/18/2012 15.169 17747 25 12/31/2012 15.220 18108 24 1/10/2013 16.938 18535 25 1/26/2013 16.352 18941 25 2/1/2013 15.240 19351 27
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| bailey08 (532hp) | Average fuel consumption of 27 mpg in mixed city/highway driving. 31 mpg highway, 23 mpg in city traffic (which drops to 19 mpg if I turn off auto stop/start).
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| 1236987450 (287hp) | Average 27.5, 80% highway at 70-90 mph. Maximum average was a trip to Houston, 34 mpg at 5-10 mph above the speed limit.
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| thebmw (539hp) | My overall average is 20 mpg with mostly city driving. I achieved 31 mpg on the highway. I have the 6MT transmission.
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| lucky1234 (637hp) | I hope you don't trust the car's MPG display, because mine is 10% optimistic about the actual number. Fuelly.com can be a useful place to see real-world results from a mix of owners logging actual mileage and fuel fill-ups. For comparison, my ActiveHybrid 5, which is essentially a 535i, averages 26 MPG, but my longest single trips are usually only about 12 miles mixed city/highway. on a rare 50 mile trip it did 30 MPG. I don't use Eco Pro mode, I drive it normally and use regular gasoline.
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| 20091989 (347hp) | I just finished a 1550 mile weekend trip to Troy MI from New Jersey. Averaged 29.8 mpg. The maximum was 31.6. And it was with the diluted trash gas on the road 80.
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| 0811 (593hp) | 25.2 MPG in mixed driving, 6MT
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| 171990 (84hp) | The first tank of gas averaged 23.5 mpg while I average 15 mpg with my Infiniti and 13.4 mpg with my S550 under the same driving conditions..
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| goos (64hp) | 24 mpg mixed driving
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| omnamahshivay (275hp) | 24.5 MPG, 70% highway and 30% city on my 535i
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| 112002 (50hp) | Poor guys... My 535 averages 30 mpg (US) with sporty driving..
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| razvan (765hp) | Quote: Originally posted by rhinosaur Poor guys... My 535 averages 30 mpg (US) with spirited driving. My long-term average for the 535i wagon is 29.8 mpg (UK gallons). I note that the UK user figures on Honest John's Real MPG table indicate that the F11 535d is only 3 mpg better than the F11 535i, for the "best" reported mpg averages (34 versus 31 mpg). Current actual MPG average: 535d 31.4 mpg, 535i 30.3 mpg. HighlandPete
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| 100290 (999hp) | Quote: Originally posted by steve-p I hope you don't trust the car's MPG display, because mine is 10% optimistic about the actual number. Mine showed a high level of 4.5%. I found the procedure below worked to reset the Gas MPG computer. 1. Press and hold the odometer reset button and turn the ignition on by pressing the start/stop button. 2. Release the odometer reset button and you should see a 4-item menu on the dashboard. From there, use the odo-reset button to move to the next input with a short press and to select with a long press. 3. Choose the one that says Unlock via the above, which will take you to a password screen. Your password is the sum of the last 5 digits of your VIN. Increment the two-digit number until you get there, and by pressing and holding the odo button, select it. 4. Then scroll down to the correction factor and change it from 1000 to what you need. My car claimed more mpg than it actually delivered, by about 4.5%. I changed the 1000 to 1045 and it now looks correct. If your on-board computer shows values higher than the actual calculated numbers, make a correction greater than 1000. If your trip is under, enter the correction number under 1,000.
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| H2vWDuBjX4 (329hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Chuck W. Mine says a high of 4.5%. I found the procedure below worked to reset the Gas MPG computer. 1. Press and hold the odometer reset button and turn the ignition on by pressing the start/stop button. 2. Release the odometer reset button and you should see a 4-item menu on the dashboard. From there, use the odo-reset button to move to the next input with a short press and to select with a long press. 3. Choose the one that says Unlock via the above, which will take you to a password screen. Your password is the sum of the last 5 digits of your VIN. Increment the two-digit number until you get there, and by pressing and holding the odo button, select it. 4. Then scroll down to the correction factor and change it from 1000 to what you need. My car claimed more mpg than it actually delivered, by about 4.5%. I changed the 1000 to 1045 and it now looks correct. If your trip computer shows values higher than the actual calculated numbers, make a correction greater than 1000. If your trip is less than, give the correction number less than 1000. Thanks, I will try that later. I'll try 1100 and see where that takes me.
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| lilboy (374hp) | Quote: Originally posted by HighlandPete My long-term average for the 535i wagon is 29.8 mpg (UK gallons). I note that the UK user figures on Honest John's Real MPG table indicate that the F11 535d is only 3 mpg better than the F11 535i, for the "best" reported mpg averages (34 versus 31 mpg). Current actual MPG average: 535d 31.4 mpg, 535i 30.3 mpg. HighlandPete These 535i numbers are quite different from Fuelly.com's 2011-2013 averages for 9 cars and 99 fill-ups, however. They give 26 MPG (imperial). The problem with the Honest John site is that it asks for nothing more than MPG and doesn't back it up with actual fuel measurements, so an owner might just assume the car's onboard computer is correct and use it. Unfortunately, fuelly.com does not have any recent 535d vehicles for comparison..
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| christoffel (160hp) | Quote: Originally posted by steve-p These 535i numbers are quite different from fuelly.com's 2011-2013 averages for 9 cars and 99 tanks, however. They give 26 MPG (imperial). The problem with the Honest John site is that it asks for nothing more than MPG and doesn't back it up with actual fuel measurements, so an owner might just assume the car's onboard computer is correct and use it. Unfortunately, fuelly.com does not offer recent 535d vehicles for comparison. I know that the figures published on most sites are not easy to interpret, let alone compare with our own experience. I'm not sure I'd prefer to compare with US-based 535i cars rather than UK users. Fuelly has no 535i users in the UK. Honest John comments on the accuracy of their figures. True mpg is a mixture of meters and correctly recorded mpg, therefore an average. We don't have the number of users for a particular model, that would be helpful, but as more numbers are added, the better the mix and the more realistic the real world numbers reported. For me personally, I compare all the cars I have available to drive with the official numbers. I used to exceed the official combined figures, the latest cars are a different story. Nowadays, it is more difficult to reach the cumulative figure. The official numbers look better, but the reality for users is a larger mpg deficit. HighlandPete
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| mariana2 (26hp) | Guys, I was wondering what everyone does on average with a mixed use fuel tank. Yes, I know everyone has different driving habits, travel habits, and tendencies, but in general, based on your 50 fill-ups to date... What do you get from a full tank? I average between 18 and 20 MPG. I wonder if this is normal for everyone ?
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| 18011992 (933hp) | I drive in Atlanta traffic 6MT 535i, I average 24 mpg. I just took a road trip to the mountains of North Carolina and averaged 28 mpg.
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| cthlwt (2hp) | 18-20 That's about what I experienced on average. I drive it like I stole it...I also have a RWD and the Hartge ECU chip, so I'm sure all of that combined brings the fuel economy down to gas guzzler status.....
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| VHBtH55jec (746hp) | 21.5 overall average. Recent 600 mile trip mostly on highway 30.7.
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| misterB27 (301hp) | 26.6 with my 535
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| 051282 (45hp) | 22.Can
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| nightcrawler (895hp) | my commute is 20 miles of highway and five miles of high-speed urban street. Here's a look at some real data: Date Gallons Odometer MPG 07/13/2012 14,929 12614 27 07/19/2012 12,964 12967 27 07/27/2012 15,502 13368 26 08/09/2012 15,199 13,770 26 8/17/2012 14,271 14,158 27 9/14/2012 15,264 15,396 26 10/2/2012 15,646 15,788 25 12/9/2012 14,290 17,362 N/A 12/18/2012 15.169 17747 25 12/31/2012 15.220 18108 24 1/10/2013 16.938 18535 25 1/26/2013 16.352 18941 25 2/1/2013 15.240 19351 27
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| 1478963a (649hp) | Average fuel consumption of 27 mpg in mixed city/highway driving. 31 mpg highway, 23 mpg in city traffic (which drops to 19 mpg if I turn off auto stop/start).
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| 170693 (74hp) | Average 27.5, 80% highway at 70-90 mph. Maximum average was a trip to Houston, 34 mpg at 5-10 mph above the speed limit.
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| kikang86 (913hp) | My overall average is 20 mpg with mostly city driving. I achieved 31 mpg on the highway. I have the 6MT transmission.
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| AlterZgo (350hp) | I hope you don't trust the car's MPG display, because mine is 10% optimistic about the actual number. Fuelly.com can be a useful place to see real-world results from a mix of owners logging actual mileage and fuel fill-ups. For comparison, my ActiveHybrid 5, which is essentially a 535i, averages 26 MPG, but my longest single trips are usually only about 12 miles mixed city/highway. on a rare 50 mile trip it did 30 MPG. I don't use Eco Pro mode, I drive it normally and use regular gasoline.
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| loserface (185hp) | I just finished a 1550 mile weekend trip to Troy MI from New Jersey. Averaged 29.8 mpg. The maximum was 31.6. And it was with the diluted trash gas on the road 80.
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| tribal1 (392hp) | 25.2 MPG in mixed driving, 6MT
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| random! (53hp) | The first tank of gas averaged 23.5 mpg while I average 15 mpg with my Infiniti and 13.4 mpg with my S550 under the same driving conditions..
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| sussex (139hp) | 24 mpg mixed driving
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| blessed123 (850hp) | 24.5 MPG, 70% highway and 30% city on my 535i
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| newyork07 (901hp) | Poor guys... My 535 averages 30 mpg (US) with sporty driving..
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| 14121989 (470hp) | Quote: Originally posted by rhinosaur Poor guys... My 535 averages 30 mpg (US) with spirited driving. My long-term average for the 535i wagon is 29.8 mpg (UK gallons). I note that the UK user figures on Honest John's Real MPG table indicate that the F11 535d is only 3 mpg better than the F11 535i, for the "best" reported mpg averages (34 versus 31 mpg). Current actual MPG average: 535d 31.4 mpg, 535i 30.3 mpg. HighlandPete
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| TT3 iN NyC (573hp) | Quote: Originally posted by steve-p I hope you don't trust the car's MPG display, because mine is 10% optimistic about the actual number. Mine showed a high level of 4.5%. I found the procedure below worked to reset the Gas MPG computer. 1. Press and hold the odometer reset button and turn the ignition on by pressing the start/stop button. 2. Release the odometer reset button and you should see a 4-item menu on the dashboard. From there, use the odo-reset button to move to the next input with a short press and to select with a long press. 3. Choose the one that says Unlock via the above, which will take you to a password screen. Your password is the sum of the last 5 digits of your VIN. Increment the two-digit number until you get there, and by pressing and holding the odo button, select it. 4. Then scroll down to the correction factor and change it from 1000 to what you need. My car claimed more mpg than it actually delivered, by about 4.5%. I changed the 1000 to 1045 and it now looks correct. If your on-board computer shows values higher than the actual calculated numbers, make a correction greater than 1000. If your trip is under, enter the correction number under 1,000.
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| ramify (453hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Chuck W. Mine says a high of 4.5%. I found the procedure below worked to reset the Gas MPG computer. 1. Press and hold the odometer reset button and turn the ignition on by pressing the start/stop button. 2. Release the odometer reset button and you should see a 4-item menu on the dashboard. From there, use the odo-reset button to move to the next input with a short press and to select with a long press. 3. Choose the one that says Unlock via the above, which will take you to a password screen. Your password is the sum of the last 5 digits of your VIN. Increment the two-digit number until you get there, and by pressing and holding the odo button, select it. 4. Then scroll down to the correction factor and change it from 1000 to what you need. My car claimed more mpg than it actually delivered, by about 4.5%. I changed the 1000 to 1045 and it now looks correct. If your on-board computer shows values higher than the actual calculated numbers, make a correction greater than 1000. If your trip is less than, give the correction number less than 1000. Thanks, I'll try that later. I'm going to try 1100 and see where that takes me.
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| mark11 (84hp) | Quote: Originally posted by HighlandPete My long-term average for the 535i wagon is 29.8 mpg (UK gallons). I note that the UK user figures on Honest John's Real MPG table indicate that the F11 535d is only 3 mpg better than the F11 535i, for the "best" reported mpg averages (34 versus 31 mpg). Current actual MPG average: 535d 31.4 mpg, 535i 30.3 mpg. HighlandPete These 535i numbers are quite different from Fuelly.com's 2011-2013 averages for 9 cars and 99 fill-ups, however. They give 26 MPG (imperial). The problem with the Honest John site is that it asks for nothing more than MPG and doesn't back it up with actual fuel measurements, so an owner might just assume the car's onboard computer is correct and use it. Unfortunately, fuelly.com does not have any recent 535d vehicles for comparison..
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| nvr_admin (936hp) | Quote: Originally posted by steve-p These 535i numbers are quite different from fuelly.com's 2011-2013 averages for 9 cars and 99 tanks, however. They give 26 MPG (imperial). The problem with the Honest John site is that it asks for nothing more than MPG and doesn't back it up with actual fuel measurements, so an owner might just assume the car's onboard computer is correct and use it. Unfortunately, fuelly.com does not offer recent 535d vehicles for comparison. I know that the figures published on most sites are not easy to interpret, let alone compare with our own experience. I'm not sure I'd prefer to compare with US-based 535i cars rather than UK users. Fuelly has no 535i users in the UK. Honest John comments on the accuracy of their figures. True mpg is a mixture of meters and correctly recorded mpg, therefore an average. We don't have the number of users for a particular model, that would be helpful, but as more numbers are added, the better the mix and the more realistic the real world numbers reported. For me personally, I compare all the cars I have available to drive with the official numbers. I used to exceed the official combined figures, the latest cars are a different story. Nowadays, it is more difficult to reach the cumulative figure. The official numbers look better, but the reality for users is a larger mpg deficit. HighlandPete
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| cellphone3 (901hp) | Well, I finally decided to order a 2012 M-Sport 535i with special order paint for an additional fee. I found a dealer in Los Angeles who was willing to knock $1,000 off the normal $5,000 cost, which pushed me over the limit. My F10 will be pretty well equipped with the Premium Pack, Premium Sound, Technology Pack, Active Roll Stabilization, Topview, etc. So here's the question: should I go with Le Mans Blue (what I specified) or upgrade to Alpina Blue (assuming I can get that color, NA rep checks). Out of all the multitude of BMW blues, I like Le Mans Blue because it's a true, pure blue, with minimal metallic glitter. Alpina Blue is of course lighter, with more shine and looks a little more luxurious. Either color will be exceptional and certainly exclusive on a 5 Series. One of the advantages of Alpina Blue is that this color is only available on the Alpina B7, the top of the range car of the current range of BMW. Le Mans Blue, on the other hand, while exclusive to the M3 and M Sport equipped 3 and 1 Series, is somewhat less exclusive, and on cars below the 5 Series, rather than above like Alpina Blue on on 7. So which blue should I choose for my $4,000 special order paint charge? (related article: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546454 )
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| drache (923hp) | Is there a way to enable the rear view camera when cruising at higher speeds ?..
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| 070687 (432hp) | BMW BLUES 1. Biarritz Blue (7 series, my original favorite BMW blue) 2. Orient Blue (7 series, too dark, almost black) 3. Steel Blue (2001 7 series, my 2001 740i, great color, 3 series and 5 '01-'03) 4. Blue Water (very light blue, series 5 only, 2002 – 2010) 5. Toledo Blue (2002 – 2005 745, sort of faded, purplish blue) 6. Michigan Blue (2002 – Series 7 2008, very similar to Steel Blue) 7. Monaco Blue (series 7 2005 – 2008, like Orient Blue , very dark. Wife's '08 750i) 8. Imperial Blue (series 7 2009 – 2012, similar to Monaco Blue, very dark) 9. Deep Sea Blue (series 5 from 2008 to 2012, series 7 from 2009 to 2012, beautiful, like Biarritz blue) 10. Interlagos Blue ( M5, not bad, but too “electric”) 11. Monte Carlo Bleu (2012 M5, 2010 . Mystic Blue (2004 – 2007 M3, 3 series, E60 5 series. On the darker side) 15. Topaz Blue (2002. E39. Excellent color, similar to Le Mans Blue, not very metallic) 16. Velvet Blue (2002 Series 3, Paintscratch.com only) 17. Laser Blue (2002 Series 3, Paintscratch.com only) 18. Avus Blue (1995, 2002 M3 , 2000 M5 Excellent color, similar to Le Mans blue) 19. Montreal blue. 20. Atlanta Blue (nice blue, my 1998 Z3) 21. Maldives Blue (very similar to Atlantic Blue, 2003 – 2005 Z4) 22. Carbon Black (M Sport exclusive 5 and 7 Series, much too dark, mostly black) 23. Azurite Black (new 7 series, individual color, too dark, but better than Carbon) 24. Jerez Black (M3 Coupe 2011, no sedan, much too dark, mostly black) 25. Alpina Blue (2007-08 & 2011 Alpina B7, very nice lighter blue. Touch of purple.) 26. Tansanite Blue Metallic (650i Individual Color in Europe) 27 . Laguna Seca Blue (E46 M3, 2001 -2003?) Light blue 28. Estoril blue (M3) Another very nice BMW Blue, similar to Laguna Seca Blue 29. Liquid Blue (2012 E92 3 Series Coupe and 2012 F20 1 Series Sedan, light blue) 30. Indigo Blue (My 2005 K1200S, nice blue) 31. Capri Blue (K1200RS, beautiful blue, similar to Z3 Atlanta Blue, a little darker) 32. Dolphin Blue (K1200RS, dark, sort of blue gray) 33. Lupine Blue (2011 K1300S) aka Lupine Blue (2012 K1300S HP)
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| rip2pac (565hp) | Yes, there are. You have to code it.
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| spielnicht (633hp) | Hmm, no offense, but if I spent 4k (or you) on a paint upgrade, I would definitely love this color, so much so that my house was painted it. As far as colors go, I'm not a huge fan of blue and both look good as far as blue goes. When I bought my Carbon Black I was really worried that there would be too much blue, which it isn't, it just depends on the day and time, have you seen Carbon Black? Since you are going for a Msport you should check it out, it is also an exclusive. I get more comments on the Carbon Black than any other car I've owned. I say #22 and spend 4k to have your house painted Le Mans blue, ewww .
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| tony18 (132hp) | ^_+1~
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| bassoon1 (272hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Delvek Hmm, no offense, but if I spent 4k (or you) on a paint upgrade, I would definitely love this color, so much so that my house was painted it . As far as colors go, I'm not a huge fan of blue and both look good as far as blue goes. When I bought my Carbon Black I was really worried that there would be too much blue, which it isn't, it just depends on the day and time, have you seen Carbon Black? Since you are going for a Msport you should check it out, it is also an exclusive. I get more comments on the Carbon Black than any other car I've owned. I say #22 and spend 4k to have your house painted Le Mans blue, ewww. Lol. Color is obviously as personal a thing as any aspect of buying a new car, and I happen to like blue. Carbon black is so dark it might as well be black. Actually, I have to ask if you were worried about there being too much blue when you ordered your Carbon Black 550i, then why not just order black. ???
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| coelho (979hp) | does it still not turn off after a while?
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| 1299 (629hp) | Quote: Originally Posted by TunedIn Well I finally decided to order a 2012 M-Sport 535i with special order paint for an additional fee. I found a dealer in Los Angeles who was willing to knock $1,000 off the normal $5,000 cost, which pushed me over the limit. My F10 will be quite well equipped with the Premium Pack, Premium Sound, Technology Pack, active roll stabilization, Topview, etc. So here's the question: should I go with Le Mans Blue (what I specified) or upgrade to Alpina Blue (assuming I can get that color, NA rep checks). Out of all the multitude of BMW blues, I like Le Mans Blue because it's a true, pure blue, with minimal metallic glitter. Alpina Blue is of course lighter, with more shine and looks a little more luxurious. Either color will be exceptional and certainly exclusive on a 5 Series. One of the advantages of Alpina Blue is that this color is only available on the Alpina B7, the top of the range car of the current range of BMW. Le Mans Blue, on the other hand, while exclusive to the M3 and M Sport equipped 3 and 1 Series, is somewhat less exclusive, and on cars below the 5 Series, rather than above like Alpina Blue on on 7. So which blue should I choose for my $4,000 special order paint charge? (related article: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546454) you can't go wrong with either one. they are very close. I have never seen a 5 in Lake Geneva blue. I'm going to Lemans but I'm biased of course
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| knulla (438hp) | I coded mine to stay on but it turns off after about 20 seconds. I can't figure out how to keep it on at all times or all times
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| spring (310hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TunedIn Lol. Color is obviously as personal a thing as any aspect of buying a new car, and I happen to like blue. Carbon black is so dark it might as well be black. Actually, I have to ask you, if you were worried about there being too much blue when you ordered your Carbon Black 550i, then why not just order black??? Well asked question. I wanted Black Sapphire but it is not available in Msport. More important than the color, I knew I wanted the M-sport and was confident I could find a replacement for the Black Sapphire, the search was on. I actually had some tough times, but in the end my dealer suggested me to come see the Jerez Blue M3 in their showroom. When I did, I thought it was the best color and went with its close relative, Carbon Black. What I like about Carbon Black is that most of the time it's black, but it gets these vibrant pops of blue when the sunlight hits it and that creates a lot of comments in parking lots etc...
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| 200776 (756hp) | Assuming that you have coded it, you can activate it at any time. Simply press the button on your parking sensors then turn idrive 1/4 click on the camera icon and press down..
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| dickface (480hp) | Quote: Posted by delvek Well asked question. I wanted Black Sapphire but it is not available in Msport. More important than the color, I knew I wanted the M-sport and was confident I could find a replacement for the Black Sapphire, the search was on. I actually had some tough times, but in the end my dealer suggested me to come see the Jerez Blue M3 in their showroom. When I did, I thought it was the best color and went with its close relative, Carbon Black. What I like about Carbon Black is that most of the time it's black, but it gets these vibrant pops of blue when the sunlight hits it and that creates a lot of commentary in parking lots etc. Okay, but I'm sure you have I anticipated my next question...why not Jet Black?? Personally, I would never buy a black car, but if I absolutely had to buy black, I would definitely buy the Carbon Black. !
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| 3141 (106hp) | Here is a video I took of it in action.
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| RACHEL (973hp) | Sorry for going slightly off topic, but a friend told me that the individual package was discontinued after 2011. I guess since we're talking about special order, one color isn't true.?
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| ellison (962hp) | Is there a way to enable the rear view camera when cruising at higher speeds ?..
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| 140881 (218hp) | Quote: Posted by vdubturbo Sorry to go slightly off topic, but a friend told me that the individual package was discontinued after 2011. I guess since we're talking about special order, one color isn't true? I don't believe BMW offered the Individual program for the 2011 or 2012 5 Series, as it does for the 7 Series, but you can still special order a paint color if it's offered on any BMW current production (although this is not the case). but I'm sure of Alpina Blue). The same goes for the interior. Go to BMWUSA.com to see that BMW Individual options are clearly listed for the 7, but not the 5, like last year. Are you considering getting a special color on a 5 ?
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| sitaram (484hp) | Yes, there are. You have to code it.
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| 246246 (380hp) | I really like Alpina Bleu. However, it is quite dark – closer to Imperial than to Le Mans. If I had the choice, I think I would go with Alpina. If I went for a lighter blue, I would have Monte Carlo. The Mans Blue is overkill on the 3 series models I think, I wouldn't want it on my 5.
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| satelite (810hp) | ^_+1~
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| melissa24 (458hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Stealth.pilot I really like Alpina Blue. However, it is quite dark – closer to Imperial than to Le Mans. If I had the choice, I think I would go with Alpina. If I went for a lighter blue, I would have Monte Carlo. The Mans Blue is overkill on the 3 series models I think, I wouldn't want it on my 5. Thanks for your input, Stealth Pilot. However, I disagree with your statement that Alpina Blue is quite dark and closer to Imperial Blue than Le Mans. There is no doubt that Alpina Blue is lighter than Le Mans Blue. Check out the following links to cars currently on sale to see for yourself: 2011 Alpina B7 in Alpina Blue (Buy it now on eBay for $129,995, MSRP was $145,325!): http://cgi .ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-7 ...t_49086wt_1134 2011 Alpina B7, also in Alpina Blue, on AutoTrader, for just $109,980. I'm amazed how these two B7s, both 2011 in Alpina Blue, look so different from each other in these photos: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js. ..standard=false 2010 BMW M Sport Coupe 328i in Le Mans Blue. Absolutely stunning color, but there is no doubt (at least to me) that Le Mans blue is significantly darker than Alpina blue. At night, Le Mans Blue probably looks like Dark Imperial Blue, but I think Alpina Blue would still look blue at night: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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| jellybean2 (693hp) | does it still not turn off after a while?
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| taylor11 (473hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TunedIn Okay, but I'm sure you anticipated my next question...why not Jet Black?? Personally, I would never buy a black car, but if I absolutely had to buy black, I would definitely buy the Carbon Black! I didn't really want to go for a non-metallic model and when I saw the Jerez Blue I was sold..
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| caliban (203hp) | I coded mine to stay on but it turns off after about 20 seconds. I can't figure out how to keep it on at all times or all times
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| ulrike (30hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TunedIn Are you considering getting a special color on a 5? I was thinking about something in the Sepang Bronze family (sample), but ended up buying a leftover from 2011. I got more for my limited budget. Sorry, continue. I like this topic
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| iQuacker (580hp) | Assuming that you have coded it, you can activate it at any time. Simply press the button on your parking sensors then turn idrive 1/4 click on the camera icon and press down..
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| gomez (218hp) | Alpina Blue and Alpina Green are NOT BMW Individual colors, they are exclusive to Alpina. I really doubt you can order a regular BMW with any of the Alpina colors..
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| fly123 (130hp) | Here is a video I took of it in action.
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| hussar (967hp) | Good morning. As far as I know there was an attempt in Europe to buy an E60 M5 in Alpina Blue and this request was refused. The owner eventually purchased an Alpina B5 (S). The chances of BMW painting your car Alpina Blue are, more realistically, zero. Sure, it might seem far-fetched, but from my perspective, if I'm going to spend 4k on a color, I'd like the whole world to know about it. my car looks special. I would feel pretty stupid spending that much money on a color that only I know is special and also wouldn't have a positive impact on the resale value of the car (no points bonus on color). There is the other side of the coin: you like the color, you want your car to be special, for no one to notice it, etc. My advice: there is this pretty matte trend that is on the rise. Why not have your car in matte blue? It's special and it would stand out. Ultimately, if you don't want a color to stand out, why pay 4k for it? Why not go for a shade of purple? Velvet Blue is a pretty color. There was/is an E60 M5 (RHD) in this color. In the photos there were 21 Hartge wheels. Here are some examples: More details on you know which card...
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| yoyoyo2 (426hp) | Quote: Posted by FadeToBlack Hello. As far as I know there was an attempt in Europe to buy an E60 M5 in Alpina Blue and this request was refused. The owner eventually purchased an Alpina B5 (S). The chances of BMW painting your car Alpina Blue are, more realistically, zero. Sure, it might seem far-fetched, but from my perspective, if I'm going to spend 4k on a color, I'd like the whole world to know about it. my car looks special. I would feel pretty stupid spending that much money on a color that only I know is special and also wouldn't have a positive impact on the resale value of the car (no points bonus on color). There is the other side of the coin: you like the color, you want your car to be special, for no one to notice it, etc. My advice: there is this pretty matte trend that is on the rise. Why not have your car in matte blue? It's special and it would stand out. Ultimately, if you don't want a color to stand out, why pay 4k for it? Why not go for a shade of purple? Velvet Blue is a pretty color. There was/is an E60 M5 (RHD) in this color. In the photos there were 21 Hartge wheels. More details on you know which card... Thanks for your contribution. I'll have to look on the forums for photos of matte blue, an interesting idea. Any blue with purple or violet is not a starter for me. I like masculine colors, not feminine ones. (just kidding, just kidding!). This is why velvet blue won't work, and even Montego blue is a no-go, because it has a purple sheen in certain lighting. In fact, even Alpina Blue sometimes has a hint of purple, but it's barely noticeable. I'm still waiting to hear from my BMW rep/NA rep regarding the Alpina Blue order, but based on recent posts (including yours) it looks bleak. too bad.
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| 230688 (717hp) | There is always BLURPLE! http://www.clublexus.com/forums/digi...y-because.html
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| 030487 (121hp) | I know from experience that Alpina does not paint normal BMWs in Alpina exclusive colors because they are Alpina's reserve. Also, I don't think BMW will allow the car to be painted in Alpina's paint shop and then sent back to production in Dingolfing. What surprises me is that someone at BMW NA thinks it's possible..
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| 05021988 (846hp) | Quote: Posted by SCOTT26 I know from experience that Alpina does not paint normal BMWs in exclusive Alpina colors because they are Alpina's reserve. Also, I don't think BMW will allow the car to be painted in Alpina's paint shop and then sent back to production in Dingolfing. What surprises me is that someone at BMW NA thinks this is possible. Resume. I was hoping that the Alpina Blue paint would be done in the paint booths at the BMW manufacturing site. It actually seems to make real sense when you consider all the standard Series 7 colors available on the B7. Does Alpina really paint the cars at its facility, given that the paint colors mostly come from regular production ? ??
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| 26061986 (390hp) | Quote: Originally posted by FadeToBlack My tip: There's this cute matte trend. Why not have your car in matte blue? It's special and it would stand out. Ultimately, if you don't want a color to stand out, why pay 4k for it? Well, I looked at the matte blue, and while it's a gorgeous look, it's too dark. Might as well opt for Imperial Blue and save the $4,000. Plus, I wonder how well a matte finish will hold up over the years. If it already seems to have lost its new car shine, what will it look like in 5 years? ? ?
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| TrenkVZ (437hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TunedIn Does Alpina really paint the cars at their facility, given that the paint colors are mostly regular production?? AFAIK they had their own paint shop (contractor) for Alpina colors in a nearby town years ago. But today, every Alpina is painted and almost entirely assembled in Dingolfing. What is currently being done at their Buchloe facility is final assembly of some engine peripherals such as oil coolers and (if ordered) custom leather interiors..
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| celeron1 (30hp) | Quote: Originally published by Gran Turismo AFAIK they had their own paint shop (contractor) for Alpina colors in a nearby town years ago. But today, every Alpina is painted and almost entirely assembled in Dingolfing. What is currently being done at their Buchloe facility is the final assembly of certain engine peripherals such as oil coolers and (if ordered) custom leather interiors. Okay, so that sounds like a marketing decision, not a manufacturing issue. I'm still waiting to hear if I can get Alpina Blue, I'll post the answer as soon as I get it..
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| axel (140hp) | Well, I finally decided to order a 2012 M-Sport 535i with special order paint for an additional fee. I found a dealer in Los Angeles who was willing to knock $1,000 off the normal $5,000 cost, which pushed me over the limit. My F10 will be quite well equipped with the Premium Pack, Premium Sound, Technology Pack, active roll stabilization, Topview, etc. So here's the question: should I go with Le Mans Blue (what I specified) or upgrade to Alpina Blue (assuming I can get that color, NA rep checks). Out of all the multitude of BMW blues, I like Le Mans Blue because it's a true, pure blue, with minimal metallic glitter. Alpina Blue is of course lighter, with more shine and looks a little more luxurious. Either color will be exceptional and certainly exclusive on a 5 Series. One of the advantages of Alpina Blue is that this color is only available on the Alpina B7, the top of the range car of the current range of BMW. Le Mans Blue, on the other hand, while exclusive to the M3 and M Sport equipped 3 and 1 Series, is somewhat less exclusive, and on cars below the 5 Series, rather than above like Alpina Blue on on 7. So which blue should I choose for my $4,000 special order paint charge? (related article: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546454 )
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| qwertyasdfg (965hp) | BMW BLUES 1. Biarritz Blue (7 series, my original favorite BMW blue) 2. Orient Blue (7 series, too dark, almost black) 3. Steel Blue (2001 7 series, my 2001 740i, great color, 3 series and 5 '01-'03) 4. Blue Water (very light blue, series 5 only, 2002 – 2010) 5. Toledo Blue (2002 – 2005 745, sort of faded purplish blue) 6. Michigan Blue (series 7 2002 – 2008, very similar to steel blue) 7. Monaco Blue (series 7 2005 – 2008, like Orient blue , very dark). Wife's '08 750i) 8. Imperial Blue (2009 – 2012 7 Series, similar to Monaco). Blue, very dark) 9. Deep Sea Blue (series 5 '08 – '12, series 7 '09-'12, beautiful, like Biarritz blue) 10. Interlagos Blue (M5, not bad, but too “electric”) 11. Monte Carlo Blue (2012 M5, 2010 exclusive M Sport package Pure Blue) 14. Mystic Blue (2004 – 2007 M3, 3 Series, E60 5 Series. On the darker side) 15. Topaz Blue (2002. E39. Excellent color, similar to Le Mans Blue, not very metallic) 16. Velvet Blue (2002 Series 3, Paintscratch.com only) 17. Laser Blue (2002 Series 3, Paintscratch.com only) 18. Bleu Avus (1995, 2002 M3, 2000 M5. Excellent color, similar to Le Mans Blue) 19. Montreal Blue 20. Atlanta Blue (nice blue, my 1998 Z3) 21. Maldives Blue (very similar to Atlantic Blue, 2003 – 2005 Z4) 22. Carbon Black (series 5 and 7 exclusive to M Sport, much too dark, mostly black) 23. Azurite Black (new 7 series, individual color, too dark, but better than Carbon) 24. Jerez Black (2011 M3 Coupe, not sedan, way too dark, mostly black) 25. Alpina Blue (2007-08 and 2011 Alpina B7, very nice lighter blue. Touch of purple.) 26. Tansanite Blue Metallic (650i individual color in Europe) 27. Laguna Seca Blue (E46 M3, 2001-2003?) Light Blue 28. Estoril Blue (M3) Another very nice BMW blue, similar to the Laguna Seca Blue 29. Liquid Blue (2012 E92 Series 3 Coupe and F20 Series 1 Sedan 2012, light blue) 30. Indigo Blue (my 2005 K1200S, nice blue) 31. Capri Blue (K1200RS, nice blue, similar to Atlanta Blue Z3, a little darker) 32. Dolphin Blue (K1200RS, dark, kind of blue gray) 33. Lupine Blue (2011 K1300S) aka Lupine Blue (2012 K1300S HP)
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| bree (324hp) | Hmm, no offense, but if I spent 4k (or you) on a paint upgrade, I would definitely love this color, so much so that my house was painted it. As far as colors go, I'm not a huge fan of blue and both look good as far as blue goes. When I bought my Carbon Black I was really worried that there would be too much blue, which it isn't, it just depends on the day and time, have you seen Carbon Black? Since you are going for a Msport you should check it out, it is also an exclusive. I get more comments on the Carbon Black than any other car I've owned. I say #22 and spend 4k to have your house painted Le Mans blue, ewww .
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| jajaja1 (709hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Delvek Hmm, no offense, but if I spent 4k (or you) on a paint upgrade, I would definitely love this color, so much so that my house was painted it . As far as colors go, I'm not a huge fan of blue and both look good as far as blue goes. When I bought my Carbon Black I was really worried that there would be too much blue, which it isn't, it just depends on the day and time, have you seen Carbon Black? Since you are going for a Msport you should check it out, it is also an exclusive. I get more comments on the Carbon Black than any other car I've owned. I say #22 and spend 4k to have your house painted Le Mans blue, ewww. Lol. Color is obviously as personal a thing as any aspect of buying a new car, and I happen to like blue. Carbon black is so dark it might as well be black. Actually, I have to ask if you were worried about there being too much blue when you ordered your Carbon Black 550i, then why not just order black. ???
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| mygodisgood (39hp) | Quote: Originally Posted by TunedIn Well, I finally decided to order a 2012 M-Sport 535i with special order paint for an additional fee. I found a dealer in Los Angeles who was willing to knock $1,000 off the normal $5,000 cost, which pushed me over the limit. My F10 will be pretty well equipped with the Premium Pack, Premium Sound, Technology Pack, Active Roll Stabilization, Topview, etc. So here's the question: should I go with Le Mans Blue (what I specified) or upgrade to Alpina Blue (assuming I can get that color, NA rep checks). Out of all the multitude of BMW blues, I like Le Mans Blue because it's a true, pure blue, with minimal metallic glitter. Alpina Blue is of course lighter, with more shine and looks a little more luxurious. Either color will be exceptional and certainly exclusive on a 5 Series. One of the advantages of Alpina Blue is that this color is only available on the Alpina B7, the top of the range car of the current range of BMW. Le Mans Blue, on the other hand, while exclusive to the M3 and M Sport equipped 3 and 1 Series, is somewhat less exclusive, and on cars below the 5 Series, rather than above like Alpina Blue on on 7. So which blue should I choose for my $4,000 special order paint charge? (related article: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546454) you can't go wrong with either one. they are very close. I have never seen a 5 in Lake Geneva blue. I'm going to Lemans but I'm biased of course
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| 130881 (398hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TunedIn Lol. Color is obviously as personal a thing as any aspect of buying a new car, and I happen to like blue. Carbon black is so dark it might as well be black. Actually, I have to ask you, if you were worried about there being too much blue when you ordered your Carbon Black 550i, then why not just order black??? Well asked question. I wanted Black Sapphire but it is not available in Msport. More important than the color, I knew I wanted the M-sport and was confident I could find a replacement for the Black Sapphire, the search was on. I actually had some tough times, but in the end my dealer suggested me to come see the Jerez Blue M3 in their showroom. When I did, I thought it was the best color and went with its close relative, Carbon Black. What I like about Carbon Black is that most of the time it's black, but it gets these vibrant pops of blue when the sunlight hits it and that creates a lot of comments in parking lots etc...
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| camaleon (271hp) | I have a 2011 550i Msport with 10 months left on my lease. I was planning on replacing it with a 2014 535d, but BMW will be bringing the 530d labeled 535d to the US, which is not what I had hoped for. So now the big decision, 535i or 530d 2014? Which would you choose?
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| ezaircon4jc (451hp) | Quote: Posted by delvek Well asked question. I wanted Black Sapphire but it is not available in Msport. More important than the color, I knew I wanted the M-sport and was confident I could find a replacement for the Black Sapphire, the search was on. I actually had some tough times, but in the end my dealer suggested me to come see the Jerez Blue M3 in their showroom. When I did, I thought it was the best color and went with its close relative, Carbon Black. What I like about Carbon Black is that most of the time it's black, but it gets these vibrant pops of blue when the sunlight hits it and that creates a lot of commentary in parking lots etc. Okay, but I'm sure you have I anticipated my next question...why not Jet Black?? Personally, I would never buy a black car, but if I absolutely had to buy black, I would definitely buy the Carbon Black. !
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| 03210321 (71hp) | 535I. The 535d is a monster and the 530d is far from it. That's my 2 cents. (I own a 2013 535i and have driven 530d and 535d in Europe).
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| johnny9 (394hp) | Sorry for going slightly off topic, but a friend told me that the individual package was discontinued after 2011. I guess since we're talking about special order, one color isn't true.?
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| x7BktntLEz (515hp) | The 535d is indeed a monster but the 530d does pretty well. IRL slightly slower than a 535i. If you cover a lot of miles during the year you may want to consider diesel, otherwise stick to gasoline.!
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| chamber1 (485hp) | Quote: Posted by vdubturbo Sorry to go slightly off topic, but a friend told me that the individual package was discontinued after 2011. I guess since we're talking about special order, one color isn't true? I don't believe BMW offered the Individual program for the 2011 or 2012 5 Series, as it does for the 7 Series, but you can still special order a paint color if it's offered on any BMW current production (but not but sure for Alpina Blue). The same goes for the interior. Go to BMWUSA.com to see that BMW Individual options are clearly listed for the 7, but not the 5, like last year. Are you considering getting a special color on a 5 ?
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| 120399 (166hp) | I can only suggest you try both, only you will know which one you prefer. I have a 530d and was so impressed with it that I upgraded from an E39 530i petrol to diesel. I have no regrets. It's faster and 50% more economical. I like how all that low torque means you don't need to rev it to get around traffic, all the power is available straight away. It's very smooth and once in motion you really wouldn't know it's a diesel. Like I said, try both and see what you think, they both have their pros and cons..
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| 140278 (353hp) | I really like Alpina Bleu. However, it is quite dark – closer to Imperial than to Le Mans. If I had the choice, I think I would go with Alpina. If I went for a lighter blue, I would have Monte Carlo. The Mans Blue is overkill on the 3 series models I think, I wouldn't want it on my 5.
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| ana123456 (171hp) | BMW has not yet released the MPG for the US 530d model. What do you say?
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| 199019 (403hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Stealth.pilot I really like Alpina Blue. However, it is quite dark – closer to Imperial than to Le Mans. If I had the choice, I think I would go with Alpina. If I went for a lighter blue, I would have Monte Carlo. The Mans Blue is overkill on the 3 series models I think, I wouldn't want it on my 5. Thanks for your input, Stealth Pilot. However, I disagree with your statement that Alpina Blue is quite dark and closer to Imperial Blue than Le Mans. There is no doubt that Alpina Blue is lighter than Le Mans Blue. Check out the following links to cars currently on sale to see for yourself: 2011 Alpina B7 in Alpina Blue (Buy it now on eBay for $129,995, MSRP was $145,325!): http://cgi .ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-7 ...t_49086wt_1134 2011 Alpina B7, also in Alpina Blue, on AutoTrader, for just $109,980. I'm amazed how these two B7s, both 2011 in Alpina Blue, look so different from each other in these photos: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js. ..standard=false 2010 BMW M Sport Coupe 328i in Le Mans Blue. Absolutely stunning color, but there is no doubt (at least to me) that Le Mans blue is significantly darker than Alpina blue. At night, Le Mans Blue probably looks like Dark Imperial Blue, but I think Alpina Blue would still look blue at night: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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| 050508 (226hp) | Quote: Originally posted by paulbazo I have a 2011 550i Msport with 10 months left on my lease. I was planning on replacing it with a 2014 535d, but BMW will be bringing the 530d labeled 535d to the US, which is not what I had hoped for. So now the big decision, 535i or 530d 2014? Which would you choose? I bought a 530D and kept it for 6 months, the engine was good and the car drove well, but......it was boring to drive with just its turbo. Having previously owned a 335D, I knew what a twin-turbocharged car could be like. I lost money, but ordered a new 535D and never regretted the decision to change cars. My advice is to go for the 535i if you can't afford the twin-turbo diesel.
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| blackangel09021 (409hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TunedIn Okay, but I'm sure you anticipated my next question... why not Jet Black?? Personally, I would never buy a black car, but if I absolutely had to buy black, I would definitely buy the Carbon Black! I didn't really want to go for a non-metallic model and when I saw the Jerez Blue I was sold..
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| 020586 (349hp) | The BMW 535d is now available in North America. The BMW Advanced Diesel inline-6 engine with BMW TwinPower Turbo technology produces 255 horsepower at 4,000 rpm and 413 lb-ft of torque between 1,500 and 3,000 rpm (preliminary figures). It is expected to show substantial gains in fuel efficiency compared to its gasoline counterpart. US EPA figures will be available closer to the on-sale date. BMW's xDrive intelligent all-wheel drive system is also available on the new 535d sedan.
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| koko11 (925hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TunedIn Are you considering getting a special color on a 5? I was thinking about something in the Sepang Bronze family (sample), but ended up buying a leftover from 2011. I got more for my limited budget. Sorry, continue. I like this topic
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| lollypop2 (529hp) | Quote: Originally posted by paulbazo I have a 2011 550i Msport with 10 months left on my lease. I was planning on replacing it with a 2014 535d, but BMW will be bringing the 530d labeled 535d to the US, which is not what I had hoped for. So now the big decision, 535i or 530d 2014? Which would you choose? It all depends on what type of driver you are. Since you live in Miami, I'm guessing that's the couple you need and then you'll do a wonderful job. When you're happy with the i at low revs, the 535d won't disappoint you at all. When you're progressing at high revs (like when you dream of a hot lap on a closed course), the 535i is what you need. But then this will not be enough to replace the 50i. Best to test the 535d first in my opinion, it's your only option for satisfaction and efficiency I guess.
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| qwertyuiop12345 (686hp) | Alpina Blue and Alpina Green are NOT BMW Individual colors, they are exclusive to Alpina. I really doubt you can order a regular BMW with any of the Alpina colors..
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| hammerfall (262hp) | Quote: Originally posted by igom3 •BMW 535d now available in North America Advanced BMW inline 6-cylinder diesel engine with BMW TwinPower Turbo technology delivers 255 horsepower at 4,000 rpm and 413 lb-ft of torque between 1,500 and 3,000 rpm (preliminary figures). It is expected to show substantial gains in fuel efficiency compared to its gasoline counterpart. US EPA figures will be available closer to the on-sale date. BMW's xDrive intelligent all-wheel drive system is also available on the new 535d sedan. I wish the US would get the real 535d and not a rebadged 530d..
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| monster. (68hp) | Good morning. As far as I know there was an attempt in Europe to buy an E60 M5 in Alpina Blue and this request was refused. The owner eventually purchased an Alpina B5 (S). The chances of BMW painting your car Alpina Blue are, more realistically, zero. Sure, it might seem far-fetched, but from my perspective, if I'm going to spend 4k on a color, I'd like the whole world to know about it. my car looks special. I would feel pretty stupid spending that much money on a color that only I know is special and also wouldn't have a positive impact on the resale value of the car (no points bonus on color). There is the other side of the coin: you like the color, you want your car to be special, for no one to notice it, etc. My advice: there is this pretty matte trend that is on the rise. Why not have your car in matte blue? It's special and it would stand out. Ultimately, if you don't want a color to stand out, why pay 4k for it? Why not go for a shade of purple? Velvet Blue is a pretty color. There was/is an E60 M5 (RHD) in this color. In the photos there were 21 Hartge wheels. Here are some examples: More details on you know which card...
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| jelly123 (124hp) | Why are you going from a 550 to a 530/535? For better fuel economy?
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| 251981 (891hp) | Quote: Posted by FadeToBlack Hello. As far as I know there was an attempt in Europe to buy an E60 M5 in Alpina Blue and this request was refused. The owner eventually purchased an Alpina B5 (S). The chances of BMW painting your car Alpina Blue are, more realistically, zero. Sure, it might seem far-fetched, but from my perspective, if I'm going to spend 4k on a color, I'd like the whole world to know about it. my car looks special. I would feel pretty stupid spending that much money on a color that only I know is special and also wouldn't have a positive impact on the resale value of the car (no points bonus on color). There is the other side of the coin: you like the color, you want your car to be special, for no one to notice it, etc. My advice: there is this pretty matte trend that is on the rise. Why not have your car in matte blue? It's special and it would stand out. Ultimately, if you don't want a color to stand out, why pay 4k for it? Why not go for a shade of purple? Velvet Blue is a pretty color. There was/is an E60 M5 (RHD) in this color. In the photos there were 21 Hartge wheels. More details on you know which card... Thank you for your contribution. I'll have to look on the forums for photos of matte blue, an interesting idea. Any blue with purple or purple is not a starter for me. I like masculine colors, not feminine ones. (just kidding, just kidding!). This is why velvet blue won't work, and even Montego blue is a no-go, because it has a purple sheen in certain lighting. In fact, even Alpina Blue sometimes has a hint of purple, but it's barely noticeable. I'm still waiting to hear from my BMW rep/NA rep regarding the Alpina Blue order, but based on recent posts (including yours) it looks bleak. too bad.
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| 123e456 (889hp) | Quote: Posted by Thud I wish the US would get the real 535d and not a rebadged 530d. it's not a rebadged 530d, it's a 535d (because twin turbo - the 530d is a single turbo). just that US fuel specs and emissions requirements cause changes to the engine's ECU, resulting in lower power than Europe. the 313 hp twin-turbo is a pleasure to drive. power in all regimes...
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| softball16 (59hp) | There is always BLURPLE! http://www.clublexus.com/forums/digi...y-because.html
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| alexis05 (471hp) | From the May 18 BMW NA press release: The BMW 535d has been added as BMW's latest diesel variant in North America. Its BMW Advanced Diesel inline-6 engine with BMW TwinPower Turbo technology produces 255 horsepower at 4,000 rpm and 413 lb-ft of torque between 1,500 and 3,000 rpm (preliminary figures). At the same time, the new BMW 535d Sedan is expected to show substantial gains in fuel efficiency compared to its gasoline counterpart..
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| chienne (619hp) | I know from experience that Alpina does not paint normal BMWs in Alpina exclusive colors because they are Alpina's reserve. Also, I don't think BMW will allow the car to be painted in Alpina's paint shop and then sent back to production in Dingolfing. What surprises me is that someone at BMW NA thinks it's possible..
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| jayne (626hp) | If I were in your shoes, it would have been difficult to go from 550 to 535/530, unless you didn't like the extra power. And with an extra 45 hp, the new 550 wouldn't be any smarter to me. Just my $0.02.
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| 061982 (11hp) | Quote: Posted by SCOTT26 I know from experience that Alpina does not paint normal BMWs in exclusive Alpina colors because they are Alpina's reserve. Also, I don't think BMW will allow the car to be painted in Alpina's paint shop and then sent back to production in Dingolfing. What surprises me is that someone at BMW NA thinks this is possible. Resume. I was hoping that the Alpina Blue paint would be done in the paint booths at the BMW manufacturing site. It actually seems to make real sense when you consider all the standard Series 7 colors available on the B7. Does Alpina really paint the cars at its facility, given that the paint colors mostly come from regular production ? ??
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| golden12 (495hp) | Quote: Originally posted by pittx52011 If I were in your shoes, it would have been difficult to go from 550 to 535/530, unless you didn't like the extra power. And with an extra 45 hp, the new 550 wouldn't be any smarter to me. Just my $0.02. I'm pretty sure many 550i drivers never exploit the engine's power, but just ride the waves of torque. Never be frantic, always cool, but always accelerate with authority. Many 550i drivers use their cars this way. In this case, a 535d is a perfect substitute, feeling pretty equal in daily use, but only consuming 50% of what the 550i would consume. Experience: Add about 100 hp to every 550i today in the world, and 20% of owners won't notice it tomorrow or anytime soon because they never tap into full power..
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| 271172 (856hp) | Quote: Originally posted by FadeToBlack My tip: There's this cute matte trend. Why not have your car in matte blue? It's special and it would stand out. Ultimately, if you don't want a color to stand out, why pay 4k for it? Well, I looked at the matte blue, and while it's a gorgeous look, it's too dark. Might as well opt for Imperial Blue and save the $4,000. Plus, I wonder how well a matte finish will hold up over the years. If it already seems to have lost its new car shine, what will it look like in 5 years? ? ?
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| d1i2m3a4 (767hp) | Quote: Originally posted by KoenG I'm pretty sure many 550i drivers never exploit the engine's power, but just ride the waves of torque. Never be frantic, always cool, but always accelerate with authority. Many 550i drivers use their cars this way. In this case, a 535d is a perfect substitute, feeling pretty equal in daily use, but consuming only 50% of what the 550i would. Experience: Add about 100 hp to every 550i in the world today, and 20% of owners won't notice it tomorrow or anytime soon because they never tap into full power. This is entirely plausible for the US, as we have ridiculous speed limits here..
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| 2ndBimmer (510hp) | Quote: Originally posted by TunedIn Does Alpina really paint the cars at their facility, given that the paint colors are mostly regular production?? AFAIK they had their own paint shop (contractor) for Alpina colors in a nearby town years ago. But today, every Alpina is painted and almost entirely assembled in Dingolfing. What is currently being done at their Buchloe facility is final assembly of some engine peripherals such as oil coolers and (if ordered) custom leather interiors..
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| 280285 (175hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 45ACP Why are you upgrading from a 550 to a 530/535? For better fuel economy? Yes, that's the idea.
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| 030478 (274hp) | Quote: Originally published by Gran Turismo AFAIK they had their own paint shop (contractor) for Alpina colors in a nearby town years ago. But today, every Alpina is painted and almost entirely assembled in Dingolfing. What is currently being done at their Buchloe facility is the final assembly of certain engine peripherals such as oil coolers and (if ordered) custom leather interiors. Okay, so that sounds like a marketing decision, not a manufacturing issue. I'm still waiting to hear if I can get Alpina Blue, I'll post the answer as soon as I get it..
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| @123456 (531hp) | Quote: Originally posted by rsyed, it's not a rebadged 530d, it's a 535d (because the twin turbo - the 530d is a single turbo). just that US fuel specs and emissions requirements cause changes to the engine's ECU, resulting in lower power than Europe. the 313 hp twin-turbo is a pleasure to drive. power all over the revs... I think it is indeed a single-turbo engine and they keep the TwinTurbo designation for marketing and branding reasons (but I could be wrong). Can anyone confirm if the 530d in Europe also has the TwinTurbo lettering on the engine cover? Otherwise, it would be quite a coincidence that they tweaked the NA-spec 535d to have exactly the same horsepower and torque as the Euro-spec 530d....
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| wwwksenechkawww (959hp) | Quote: Originally posted by hufington This is entirely plausible for the US since we have ridiculous speed limits here. Unless you live in Montana! (or am I wrong?)
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| pintura (151hp) | Quote: Originally posted by rhinosaur I believe this is indeed a single turbo engine and they are keeping the TwinTurbo designation for marketing and branding reasons (but I could be wrong). Can anyone confirm if the 530d in Europe also has the TwinTurbo lettering on the engine cover? Otherwise it would be quite a coincidence that they tweaked the NA spec 535d to have the exact same power and torque as the Euro spec 530d... You're right, BMW went the marketing route of calling the two 'Twin Turbo' engines. I have attached a photo of the actual specs. It says both engines are "Twin Turbos", but the 535D has a multi-stage turbo, unlike the 530D. The US will likely rename the 530D to the 535D….
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| 290878 (529hp) | Quote: Originally posted by gspannu The US will probably rename the 530D to the 535D…. I think it's a safe call. The 530d, however, remains a very attractive engine. If BMW also offers its EcoCredit, it will likely be cheaper than the 535i. Identical performance (the difference from 0 to 62 mph is 0.2 seconds slower on the diesel - negligible) but a significant MPG advantage. If I had to choose between the two, I would go for the diesel. Especially if BMW decides to offer an EcoCredit.
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| 25051985 (203hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 760Lifan I think it's a safe call. The 530d, however, remains a very attractive engine. If BMW also offers its EcoCredit, it will likely be cheaper than the 535i. Identical performance (the difference from 0 to 62 mph is 0.2 seconds slower on the diesel - negligible) but a significant MPG advantage. If I had to choose between the two, I would go for the diesel. Especially if BMW decides to offer an EcoCredit. How many dollars is a typical EcoCredit??
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| carlos15 (461hp) | An idea of when we will know about the eco-credit. I'm sitting on the fence deciding whether to order the 535i or the 535d. If there is an eco-credit, my decision is easy
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| 25011982 (485hp) | I have a 2011 550i Msport with 10 months left on my lease. I was planning on replacing it with a 2014 535d, but BMW will be bringing the 530d labeled 535d to the US, which is not what I had hoped for. So now the big decision, 535i or 530d 2014? Which would you choose?
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| kissit (84hp) | 535I. The 535d is a monster and the 530d is far from it. That's my 2 cents. (I own a 2013 535i and have driven 530d and 535d in Europe).
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