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| happy777 (349hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan But isn't the full black panel (6WA on BMW UK) the new MFID? The instrument of the 2012 F10 does not match the UK description of the 6WA. Are you guys sure? No, 6WA is not the new MFID. The MFID is 6 WB. 100% safe. Initially at launch, the F10 only has one type of instrument cluster, i.e. the standard one you see now (i.e. no display below the speedometer ). I believe as of 3/11 the production 6WA became available and it comes free with HUD or navigation (also available as a standalone option in some markets). 6WA is essentially the same cluster you see in the F01/02, with an additional display below the speedometer. 6WA is also called an all-black panel in some markets. For MY2013 comes 6WB, which is the new MFID. Note that no one has ever called it a completely black panel. So, 3 cluster types for MY2013: standard, 6WA & 6WB.
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| cupcake8 (974hp) | Ok, just to make things clear. Standard cluster 6WA 6WB
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| ms.dolgikh (44hp) | Interesting - what is the difference between standard cluster and 6WA?
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| may2007 (503hp) | The standard looks like any other cluster from previous BMWs with a small LCD box in the middle. It does not turn off when the car is turned off. The 6WA turns off completely when the car is turned off, which looks like a black screen. The entire bottom half of the cluster is like an LCD screen showing you different content that is not available on the standard cluster. LCD starts where the rings are cut.
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| 15101993 (886hp) | Oh, I see. Do they even make a 5 Series with an instrument cluster that doesn't have an LCD on the bottom half? I've never seen one at a dealership.
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| 123498765 (449hp) | Quote: Posted by DitrasetMan Oh, I see. Do they even make a 5 Series with an instrument cluster that doesn't have an LCD on the bottom half? I've never seen one at a dealership. Standard package: LCD screen on lower half of tachometer only 6WA: LCD screen on lower half of speedometer and tachometer
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| slim12 (503hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Clarence Standard cluster: LCD screen on lower half of tachometer only 6WA: LCD screen on lower half of speedometer and tachometer What packages for F10s come with the cluster standard and which ones come with the 6WA? Does anyone have any further updates on the inclusion of the new Advanced MFID in the 2013 releases which will debut in July ??
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| mememe123 (345hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan Which packages for the F10s come with the standard cluster and which come with the 6WA? Does anyone have any further updates on the inclusion of the new Advanced MFID in the 2013 releases which will debut in July? I think for US market the 6WA only comes with HUD, but for MY13 it will be included in tech package because it includes HUD. MFID will not come to the US on versions 7/12.
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| 121214 (398hp) | MFID will not be available in North America for July releases. It's pretty much confirmed at this point. 6WA is 6WA is not 6WB MFID. Dealers are already placing build orders for July 2013, so if it were to become available it would already be in the ordering guides. The ordering guide Jason posted on this forum was exactly the same as the one my dealer printed from his system. The new navigation system will be available on all 2013 F10s for North America, including the M5 which is built on the same assembly line. When we'll get the 6WB option in NA, no one knows, but it's definite. not the July constructions. Alan
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| gertie1 (925hp) | Does anyone have an update for 6wb mfid in the US? Thanks Jesse
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| waterlily (706hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Clarence Ok, just to clear things up. Standard cluster 6WA 6WB Yes. Absolutely correct. The 6WB option is available here in OZ for 5ers starting November 1st and the BOM in the photo above is also what is used here..
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| ginger77 (149hp) | I have 6WA, all information is hidden when the car is off, but the four open rings and the hands are still visible, these are physical parts on the cluster.
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| 14081979 (981hp) | Hello everyone. Can anyone confirm for me what technological changes will be implemented in the 2013 F10? First of all, according to the official 2013 5 Series price guide (I got a printed copy from my dealer), the Technology Package for 2013 includes (for $2,800): (609) navigation, (610) ) head-up display, (615) online. Information services, smartphone integration (6NF), BMW apps (6NR), real-time traffic information (6UH) and instrument cluster (6WA) with expanded content. I have read the various posts on this forum and the sites which explain the updates (http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691429), however, I have not seen any real confirmation on some of them. these updates, and I don't understand the importance of them either. Here are my questions: 1) How different will the navigation system on the 2013 F10 be from the 2012 F10? 2) How different will iDrive be in the 2013 F10 compared to the 2012 F10? Does it even change, or just the navigation? 3) Are BMW apps (and smartphone integration) evolving? 4) I have read all the documents online about the revised multi-function instrument display (http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690544) which will be available on the 2013 F10 as an option. As you see above, the 2013 Technology Pack now includes the instrument cluster with expanded content. Is it the same thing? If not, what is it? I don't see any other options available on the pricing guide that says instrument.
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| cruiser1 (530hp) | anyone?
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| 03021986 (754hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan Hello everyone. Can anyone confirm for me what technological changes will be implemented in the 2013 F10? First of all, according to the official 2013 5 Series price guide (I got a printed copy from my dealer), the Technology Package for 2013 includes (for $2,800): (609) navigation, (610) ) head-up display, (615) online. Information services, smartphone integration (6NF), BMW apps (6NR), real-time traffic information (6UH) and instrument cluster (6WA) with expanded content. (…) 4) I have read all the documents online about the revised multi-function instrument display (http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690544) which will be available on the 2013 F10 as an option. As you see above, the 2013 Technology Pack now includes the instrument cluster with expanded content. Is it the same thing? If not, what is it? I don't see any other options available on the pricing guide listing the instrument. 6WA is the standard cluster with the extended content under the speed and tach arches. The new MFID is 6 WB and costs an extra 300 euros in Germany.
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| varistor (732hp) | Interesting - so if this is the standard instrument display, how do I get the new TFT screen instrument display mentioned in the sites? I don't see an option on BMWconfig.com
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| chivas19 (237hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan Interesting - so if this is the standard instrument display, how do I get the new TFT screen instrument display mentioned in the sites? I don't see an option on BMWconfig.com. 6WA is the all-black panel (i.e. the same as the standard cluster installed on the F01 and GT), which comes free with the HUD or navigation. 6WB is the new MID, offered at a reduced price if equipped with a HUD or navigation system. This is intended for EU/ROW markets, maybe it is not approved for US market yet.
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| sunnyUK (710hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan 1) How different will the 2013 F10's navigation system be from the 2012 F10? 2) How different will iDrive be in the 2013 F10 compared to the 2012 F10? Does it even change, or just the navigation? Navigation is significantly faster, with a few different animations. You can see some of the differences for the 2013 model year nav/iDrive (Navigation Professional). Here's a look at some of the new features: Screenshots: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691510 Video: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05 /bmw-idrive-4x/
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| giuseppe1 (57hp) | Jason, I know we all talk about this on http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthre...1#post12121626 but I wish there was a way to see if the 6WA for a 2013 F10 on the American market is the equivalent of 6WB (new MFID) in European markets. Maybe the new MFID won't be available for another year in the US... As I said in the other article: I'm hesitant to be so certain that the 6WA of the Tech Package for the 2013 F10 is not the new MFID. , and I'll tell you why - If you're trying to build a new 5 Series on the BMW UK website you can add on as an option, for £115, the Black Panel Display, which is described as a: Full Black panel technology, as described on the left, but additionally with a high-resolution 9.2 information screen below. This displays information such as current fuel consumption, range, on-board computer functions and trip and odometer, alongside navigation prompts. The screen features Black Panel technology, when the ignition is turned off it appears as a flat, matte black surface. The only three-dimensional elements are the chrome rings, open at the bottom, which surround the display dials. As soon as the vehicle is opened, the chrome rings transform into full circles and the dials and displays appear. (Only in combination with head-up display). And here's the kicker: guess what the BMW code is for the UK black panel display? 6WA. Are we sure this is not the same 6WA in the US technology package? Thoughts?
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| true (434hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan I'm hesitant to be so certain that the 6WA in the 2013 F10 Tech Pack isn't the new MFID, and I'll tell you why - If you're trying to build a new 5 Series on On the BMW UK website you can add as an option, for £115, the Black Panel Display, which is described as: Full Black panel technology, as described on the left, but additionally with high resolution 9.2 Information Display below. This displays information such as current fuel consumption, range, on-board computer functions and trip and odometer, alongside navigation prompts. The screen features Black Panel technology, when the ignition is turned off it appears as a flat, matte black surface. The only three-dimensional elements are the chrome rings, open at the bottom, which surround the screen dials. As soon as the vehicle is opened, the chrome rings transform into full circles and the dials and displays appear. (Only in combination with head-up display). And here's the kicker: guess what the BMW code is for the UK black panel display? 6WA. Are we sure this is not the same 6WA in the US technology package? Thoughts? This is actually the 6WA instrument cluster with extended content, not the 6WB multifunction display. 6WB has the chrome rings that open inwards, not down, and has more features than you listed, namely the different dials for different riding settings..
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| onlyone1 (215hp) | 6WA is full black panel, 6WB is MFID.
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| indie1 (830hp) | But isn’t the Full Black Panel (6WA on BMW UK) the new MFID? The instrument of the 2012 F10 does not match the UK description of the 6WA. Are you guys sure? Also, everyone on (http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthre...1#post12137443) leaves me perplexed as to whether the new Navi/IDrive will actually be present on the July production F10 2013..
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| 23111992 (808hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan But isn't the full black panel (6WA on BMW UK) the new MFID? The instrument of the 2012 F10 does not match the UK description of the 6WA. Are you guys sure? No, 6WA is not the new MFID. The MFID is 6 WB. 100% safe. Initially at launch, the F10 only has one type of instrument cluster, i.e. the standard one you see now (i.e. no display below the speedometer ). I believe as of 3/11 the production 6WA became available and it comes free with HUD or navigation (also available as a standalone option in some markets). 6WA is essentially the same cluster you see in the F01/02, with an additional display below the speedometer. 6WA is also called an all-black panel in some markets. For MY2013 comes 6WB, which is the new MFID. Note that no one has ever called the panel completely black. So, 3 cluster types for MY2013: standard, 6WA & 6WB.
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| doodoo (817hp) | Ok, just to make things clear. Standard cluster 6WA 6WB
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| 11061979 (122hp) | Interesting - what is the difference between standard cluster and 6WA?
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| margareth (203hp) | The standard looks like any other cluster from previous BMWs with a small LCD box in the middle. It does not turn off when the car is turned off. The 6WA turns off completely when the car is turned off, which looks like a black screen. The entire bottom half of the cluster is like an LCD screen showing you different content that is not available on the standard cluster. LCD starts where the rings are cut.
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| 115511 (509hp) | Oh, I see. Do they even make a 5 Series with an instrument cluster that doesn't have an LCD on the bottom half? I've never seen one at a dealership.
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| blondie101 (603hp) | Quote: Posted by DitrasetMan Oh, I see. Do they even make a 5 Series with an instrument cluster that doesn't have an LCD on the bottom half? I've never seen one at a dealership. Standard package: LCD screen on lower half of tachometer only 6WA: LCD screen on lower half of speedometer and tachometer
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| 27011978 (835hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Clarence Standard cluster: LCD screen on lower half of tachometer only 6WA: LCD screen on lower half of speedometer and tachometer What packages for F10s come with the cluster standard and which ones come with the 6WA? Does anyone have any further updates on the inclusion of the new Advanced MFID in the 2013 releases which will debut in July ??
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| rubin (653hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DitrasetMan Which packages for the F10s come with the standard cluster and which come with the 6WA? Does anyone have any further updates on the inclusion of the new Advanced MFID in the 2013 releases which will debut in July? I think for US market the 6WA only comes with HUD, but for MY13 it will be included in tech package because it includes HUD. MFID will not come to the US on versions 7/12.
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| 123786 (378hp) | MFID will not be available in North America for July releases. It's pretty much confirmed at this point. 6WA is 6WA is not 6WB MFID. Dealers are already placing build orders for July 2013, so if it were to become available it would already be in the ordering guides. The ordering guide Jason posted on this forum was exactly the same as the one my dealer printed from his system. The new navigation system will be available on all 2013 F10s for North America, including the M5 which is built on the same assembly line. When we'll get the 6WB option in NA is anyone's guess, but it's definite. not the July constructions. Alan
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| qwe111 (447hp) | Does anyone have an update for 6wb mfid in the US? Thanks Jesse
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| Grizz456 (973hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Clarence Ok, just to clear things up. Standard cluster 6WA 6WB Yes. Absolutely correct. The 6WB option is available here in OZ for 5ers starting November 1st and the BOM in the photo above is also the one used here..
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| 08121984 (529hp) | I have 6WA, all information is hidden when the car is off, but the four open rings and the hands are still visible, these are physical parts on the cluster.
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| printemps (328hp) | I have a question, my 535 has adaptive HID lights, I think they are called, I noticed that when I turn the wheels to the right they (light beam) turn right as they should, but when I turn the wheel to the left the beam moves just a little to the left, not as much to the right? any idea if this is how it works? THANKS
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| joseph24 (375hp) | Quote: Originally posted by valcor535 I received a question, my 535 has adaptive HID lights I think they are called, I noticed that when I turn the wheels to the right they (the beam lights) turn to the right as they should, but when I turn the wheel to the left, the beam moves just a little to the left, not as much as to the right? any idea if this is how it works? Thanks They are designed this way to keep the beam out of the eyes of oncoming drivers when turning and such when the steering wheel is turned. It’s the opposite of overseas. But there's nothing wrong with them.
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| Chicken1 (584hp) | that makes sense... Thanks
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| sara2000 (328hp) | I have a question, my 535 has adaptive HID lights, I think they are called, I noticed that when I turn the wheels to the right they (light beam) turn right as they should, but when I turn the wheel to the left the beam moves just a little to the left, not as much to the right? any idea if this is how it works? THANKS
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| a1234b (612hp) | Quote: Originally posted by valcor535 I received a question, my 535 has adaptive HID lights I think they are called, I noticed that when I turn the wheels to the right they (the beam lights) turn to the right as they should, but when I turn the wheel to the left, the beam moves just a little to the left, not as much as to the right? any idea if this is how it works? Thanks They are designed this way to keep the beam out of the eyes of oncoming drivers when turning and such when the steering wheel is turned. It’s the opposite of overseas. But there's nothing wrong with them.
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| jesus06 (163hp) | that makes sense... Thanks
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| JKing3 (328hp) | I have noticed that when my car is parked in my garage but unlocked, it makes high-pitched noises, very faint, but fairly constant. And this, even after a few hours spent in the car. This happens even when my keys are not on me. The keys are usually in my cocktail pocket or on my entry table, just on the other side of the house door, so maybe 30 feet away. Am I the only one?
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| chanel12 (827hp) | It may be the gas vapor pressure purge motor in your emissions system..
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| basspro1 (151hp) | I have noticed that when my car is parked in my garage but unlocked, it makes high-pitched noises, very faint, but fairly constant. And this, even after a few hours spent in the car. This happens even when my keys are not on me. The keys are usually in my cocktail pocket or on my entry table, just on the other side of the house door, so maybe 30 feet away. Am I the only one?
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| thomas26 (173hp) | It may be the gas vapor pressure purge motor in your emissions system..
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| gato (832hp) | Hello everyone, I raised this issue before when I had Gingerbread 2.34, had ICS 4.0+ for a while, had new Spotify updates but still no graphics info or songs text messages when playing over Bluetooth. Has anyone managed to get this to work? Note: I also tried with other radio applications and still without success (my iPod works 100%)
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| pescara (4hp) | Quote: Originally posted by stevem12t2 Hello everyone! I'm proud to say that with the help of the guys at BimmerTech [email protected] we managed to retrofit my 2011 F10 (built late September 2011) with full 6NR integration. I do NOT have an iPhone. I use an iPod Touch 4th generation 64 GB. The device is jailbroken to allow Cydia to purchase the iBluever application for 4.99 with On Demand. The Blackberry Torch 9800 I own uses PDANET enabling Bluetooth DUN, disabling Bluetooth on the iPod and using iBluever to connect to the Blackberry using its own Bluetooth communication. When not in a Wi-Fi zone, iBluever takes over and automatically jumps to the 3G-enabled Blackberry for Internet connectivity. The BlackBerry will say Modem Enabled at the top and will be fully connected to the iPod without pressing any buttons on either device. Once they are paired and the request is activated in iBluever, the rest is automatic. The connection is also interrupted if the iPod automatically detects or reaches a Wi-Fi zone. The apps below (which even require Internet connectivity such as Pandora) never skip a beat when switching from Wi-Fi to 3G from the Berry and back to Wi-Fi. Turning off the car pauses the iPod on whatever it's playing, then getting out of the car and taking the BlackBerry with me the Bluetooth connection will eventually fall from the iPod, then returning to the car, BT is automatically connected and iBluever On Demand brings back the 3G connection to the iPod. Then, when you start the car, the iPod picks up where it left off. I also have this Blackberry connected to the car for audio and phone capabilities. A call pauses the iPod and the call resumes as expected. The Blackberry can also handle the DUN Bluetooth connection to the iPod and car at the same time for different services, of course. Blackberry car services include audio sync, email, phone book, calls, and more. while the DUN Bluetooth connection simply enables modem capabilities for the iPod. Both Bluetooth devices can therefore be connected to the Berry at the same time. For those of you who want the flexibility of Full Office integration in the car, Blackberry is the way to go. It also runs your SlackerRadio, iHeartRadio, YouTube videos, Nobex radio, etc. via Bluetooth audio. The iPod then handles BMW apps, web radio, music collections, video collections, and fully iDrive-enabled Pandora streaming without having to constantly plug and unplug your iPhone as you get in and out of the car every day. Just leave the iPod connected. Grab your Berry and go, then come back for more!!! A quick email to Patryk with the VIN allowed him to generate a quote and provide me with the information needed to complete this renovation. I visited the dealer for a software update (**BUT THE BimmerTech GUYS CAN DO IT REMOTELY NOW TOO!!!**) as my current CIC software was as built in mid-September 2010. An upgrade request around March 2011 was requested because it was thought that my car's basic iPod integration would be fixed. (If you are playing an iPod playlist, turn off the car, leave, return to the car, the playlist continues to the last song played, but reviewing the music list gives incorrect results for names and track list. Jogging to the current playlist brings up the appropriate information is complete but this was a bug I explained that a CIC software update to the.!!!
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| babushka (779hp) | For this to work, you need to find a phone that supports AVRCP 1.3 or higher. I only found iPhone and Windows Phone 7 +.
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| tribes (897hp) | bon
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| 210986 (650hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mobileum For this to work, you need to find a phone that supports AVRCP 1.3 or higher. I only found iPhone and Windows Phone 7+. Thanks: I have the Galaxy S2: On the XDA site http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?t=1363480 :- From http://www.bluetooth.org/tpg /EPL_Det...roductID=16371 and http://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_PRD...roductID=16371 it has this capability....but still doesn't work not... ... frustrating
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| 120670 (779hp) | Hi, this weekend I did the live activation by bimmertech. Great experience and I'm happy Thanks to the guys at bimmertech! They always have a solution! Freude Am fahren
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| sanandres (856hp) | @jedpause Try with the built-in music player. Then I think you will see what you are looking for. But Spotify, no...
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| mike2007 (522hp) | Hi guys, this article is awesome, please anyone who can give me USB flash drive video playback and iPhone 5s video output from YouTube app on iPhone, send me a message or send me a private message. Any idea of the costs? Thanks in advance Matt UK
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| 29081993 (372hp) | ... tried with a family member's iPhone 4 this week, and Spotify works (shows song info), so at least I know the car is capable... just need to know if I can upgrade the AVRCP version on my Galaxy S2 (or get an S3 !)
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| 031092 (707hp) | Has anyone actually figured this out for F10s from 2011 to present and can provide detailed information on things like cost, fitment, coding and installation ??
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| abaybay1 (689hp) | Hello everyone, I raised this issue before when I had Gingerbread 2.34, had ICS 4.0+ for a while, had new Spotify updates but still no graphics info or songs text messages when playing over Bluetooth. Has anyone managed to get this to work? Note: I also tried with other radio applications and still without success (my iPod works 100%)
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| 20071994 (615hp) | Excellent article. THANKS.
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| love2live (34hp) | For this to work, you need to find a phone that supports AVRCP 1.3 or higher. I only found one for iPhone and Windows Phone 7 +.
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| fishin (303hp) | Quote: Originally posted by stevem12t2 Hello everyone! I'm proud to say that with the help of the guys at BimmerTech [email protected] we managed to retrofit my 2011 F10 (built late September 2011) with full 6NR integration. I do NOT have an iPhone. I use an iPod Touch 4th generation 64 GB. The device is jailbroken to allow Cydia to purchase the iBluever application for 4.99 with On Demand. The Blackberry Torch 9800 I own uses PDANET enabling Bluetooth DUN, disabling Bluetooth on the iPod and using iBluever to connect to the Blackberry using its own Bluetooth communication. When not in a Wi-Fi zone, iBluever takes over and automatically jumps to the 3G-enabled Blackberry for Internet connectivity. The BlackBerry will say Modem Enabled at the top and will be fully connected to the iPod without pressing any buttons on either device. Once they are paired and the request is activated in iBluever, the rest is automatic. The connection is also interrupted if the iPod automatically detects or reaches a Wi-Fi zone. The apps below (which even require Internet connectivity such as Pandora) never skip a beat when switching from Wi-Fi to 3G from the Berry and back to Wi-Fi. Turning off the car pauses the iPod on whatever it's playing, then getting out of the car and taking the BlackBerry with me the Bluetooth connection will eventually fall from the iPod, then returning to the car, BT is automatically connected and iBluever On Demand brings back the 3G connection to the iPod. Then, when you start the car, the iPod picks up where it left off. I also have this Blackberry connected to the car for audio and phone capabilities. A call pauses the iPod and the call resumes as expected. The Blackberry can also handle the DUN Bluetooth connection to the iPod and car at the same time for different services, of course. Blackberry car services include audio sync, email, phone book, calls, and more. while the DUN Bluetooth connection simply enables modem capabilities for the iPod. Both Bluetooth devices can therefore be connected to the Berry at the same time. For those of you who want the flexibility of Full Office integration in the car, Blackberry is the way to go. It also runs your SlackerRadio, iHeartRadio, YouTube videos, Nobex radio, etc. via Bluetooth audio. The iPod then handles BMW apps, web radio, music collections, video collections, and fully iDrive-enabled Pandora streaming without having to constantly plug and unplug your iPhone as you get in and out of the car every day. Just leave the iPod connected. Grab your Berry and go, then come back for more!!! A quick email to Patryk with the VIN allowed him to generate a quote and provide me with the information needed to complete this renovation. I visited the dealer for a software update (**BUT THE BimmerTech GUYS CAN DO IT REMOTELY NOW TOO!!!**) as my current CIC software was as built in mid-September 2010. An upgrade request around March 2011 was requested because it was thought that my car's basic iPod integration would be fixed. (If you are playing an iPod playlist, turn off the car, leave, return to the car, the playlist continues to the last song played, but reviewing the music list gives incorrect results for names and track list. Jogging to the current playlist brings up the appropriate information is complete but this was a bug I explained that a CIC software update to the.!!!
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| 260580 (974hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mobileum For this to work, you need to find a phone that supports AVRCP 1.3 or higher. I only found iPhone and Windows Phone 7+. Thanks: I have the Galaxy S2: On the XDA site http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?t=1363480 :- From http://www.bluetooth.org/tpg /EPL_Det...roductID=16371 and http://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_PRD...roductID=16371 it has this capability....but still doesn't work.. ...frustrating
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| 11051977 (635hp) | bon
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| teddy11 (56hp) | @jedpause Try with the built-in music player. Then I think you will see what you are looking for. But Spotify, no...
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| marvin123 (713hp) | Hi, this weekend I did the live activation by bimmertech. Great experience and I'm happy Thanks to the guys at bimmertech! They always have a solution! Freude Am fahren
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| cynthiab (790hp) | ... tried with a family member's iPhone 4 this week, and Spotify works (shows song info), so at least I know the car is capable... just need to know if I can upgrade the AVRCP version on my Galaxy S2 (or get an S3 !)
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| vanilla123 (442hp) | Hi guys, this article is awesome, please anyone who can give me USB flash drive video playback and iPhone 5s video output from YouTube app on iPhone, send me a message or send me a private message. Any idea of the costs? Thanks in advance Matt UK
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| gsmith999 (125hp) | Has anyone actually figured this out for F10s from 2011 to present and be able to provide detailed information on things like cost, equipment, coding and installation.?
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| postit (262hp) | Excellent article. THANKS.
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| 26081991 (426hp) | On 10/30/12 I customized a 528 that my dealer had put into production - they started production on 11/5/12 and the vehicle investigation report shows the 6WA. I am disappointed!!!! I thought it was going to go to 6WB on 11/1/12?
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| bassplayer (449hp) | On 10/30/12 I customized a 528 that my dealer had put into production - they started production on 11/5/12 and the vehicle investigation report shows the 6WA. I am disappointed!!!! I thought it was going to go to 6WB on 11/1/12?
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| 010477 (75hp) | Does anyone have the original BMW sun visors? I would like to have some opinions. They are sold in 2 references. One for the rear window and one for the left and right rear windows. I did not order tinted windows. Alternatively you have the shades from Privacy Shades/Sonniboy and they also fit the F10 and F11. Does anyone have them and please post some photos. I haven't seen them on an F10, thanks in advance!
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| monkey32 (581hp) | Does anyone have the original BMW sun visors? I would like to have some opinions. They are sold in 2 references. One for the rear window and one for the left and right rear windows. I did not order tinted windows. Alternatively you have the shades from Privacy Shades/Sonniboy and they also fit the F10 and F11. Does anyone have them and please post some photos. I haven't seen them on an F10, thanks in advance!
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| chocha (996hp) | How many kilometers do you do with your BMW 535i? I'm thinking of buying one to replace my gas guzzler 745i which barely covers 500 km on a 23 gallon tank.....
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| andrey1997 (939hp) | Relapse, it depends on your driving habits and whether you drive in the city or on the highway. I have had my car for over 2 years now. In urban driving in Toronto, I would travel between 400 and 500 km on a tank (70 liters I think). On the highway, I can easily travel 800 km between Ottawa and Toronto. Obviously, the more spirited you drive, the fewer miles you will cover on a tank. Hope this helps. MBA
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| arsene (239hp) | I bet 330-350 in mainly city driving
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| jpmckenna (5hp) | Quote: Originally posted by aman27, I'll bet 330-350 in mostly city driving Here in Atlanta, 32 minutes on a good day of commuting, 23 mpg 6-speed manual and 400 mpg jumping on it....
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| e46e92love (682hp) | 85% city 250 miles away
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| halliwell1 (930hp) | I have had my 535xi for 2 years. I drive 90% in the city, not stop and go, but in the city. I average 17 mpg, I usually get about 400 miles per tank. The most I could achieve on the highway is 26 mpg. Yes I know I mix mpg and km, but my brain works in mpg not in l/100km.
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| korn69 (244hp) | I get about 220 miles per tank, or about 15 mpg...85% city
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| brewer1 (407hp) | I usually get 370-420 per tank.
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| notime (70hp) | Quote: Originally posted by UAM951 I usually get $370-$420 per tank. It's very impressive. I have about 340 max in D and about 310 in DS and that's 75% highway and 25% local streets..
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| runrun (717hp) | Quote: Originally posted by dr.mba Relapse, it depends on your driving habits and whether you are driving in the city or on the highway. I have had my car for over 2 years now. In urban driving in Toronto, I would travel between 400 and 500 km on a tank (70 liters I think). On the highway, I can easily travel 800 km between Ottawa and Toronto. Obviously, the more spirited you drive, the fewer miles you will cover on a tank. Hope this helps. MBA Same here. A city with a highway or an entire city is not good at all. I consume on average 13 to 14 L/100 KM. I went to DC a few weeks ago and even cruising at 130-140 KM/H through some pretty hilly countryside I still managed about 8.6L which showed about 750 KM on a full tank..
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| soccer94 (889hp) | Quote: Posted by LACSTER Quote: Posted by UAM951 I usually get 370-420 per tank. It's very impressive. I got about 340 max in D and about 310 in DS and that's 75% highway and 25% local streets. Do you have the jb4? Are you driving in sport mode? I ride in sport mode and barely got 350 with my jb4
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| Muhammad (663hp) | I usually get about 400 miles to the tank by driving a little aggressively. 430 ish if I take things easier. 80% of travel on motorways with sometimes heavy traffic.
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| kombat (841hp) | I traveled 320 to 400 km depending on driving style. traffic is very bad in Indonesia.
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| aladdin1 (895hp) | Average 380-420 miles per tank
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| morbid1 (628hp) | Is something wrong with my miles? I just completed 260 miles. I drive 95% in the city and 15% on the highway. I live in Seattle
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| Kristoph (274hp) | by the way, it's a 528i 2013
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| deimos (352hp) | I get 24 mpg mostly in the city and an easy 29 mpg highway. 2013 535i xDrive with a JB4 S2. Mileage has also increased as the car enters break-in.
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| mybabe1 (799hp) | ooh I see, yeah you're right. the break-in is still in progress. do you know what happens once the break-in is complete? by the way, it's 5% highway. I wrote the wrong number
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| chiodos1 (155hp) | 350 - 390miles 60% highway 40% city normal driving 280 - 340 miles aggressive driving
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| spicegirls (939hp) | Quote: Posted by EdwardK oohh I see, yeah you're right. the break-in is still in progress. do you know what happens once the break-in is complete? by the way, it's 5% highway. I wrote the wrong number. Your driving situation is one of the worst in terms of fuel consumption, so probably reflect that in the numbers you get. Very difficult to compare, as we all have variables in our driving mix. After a burglary it's not a miracle thing either, usually consumption gradually improves, but don't expect big things if conditions remain the same. It takes regular highway driving to see decent MPG figures. HighlandPete
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| hack123 (582hp) | I travel about 450 km per tank in 80% urban driving. The average speed is around 30 to 40 km/h. With a little more highway mileage I can do 500-520 km and average speed around 50-60 km/h..
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| dance16 (365hp) | My absolute maximum on a full tank of fuel was 1,086 km, this was with the current F11. I don't remember exactly how much was left/in, it took about 67 liters I guess. Going to a maximum rev of 1,700 rpm will allow this car to easily travel 1,200 km on a single tank.!
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| fleming1 (95hp) | How many kilometers do you do with your BMW 535i? I'm thinking of buying one to replace my gas guzzler 745i which barely covers 500 km on a 23 gallon tank.....
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| pr1nc3ss (136hp) | Relapse, it depends on your driving habits and whether you drive in the city or on the highway. I have had my car for over 2 years now. In urban driving in Toronto, I would travel between 400 and 500 km on a tank (70 liters I think). On the highway, I can easily travel 800 km between Ottawa and Toronto. Obviously, the more spirited you drive, the fewer miles you will cover on a tank. Hope this helps. MBA
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| sammie123 (586hp) | I bet 330-350 in mainly city driving
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| brunette (262hp) | Quote: Originally posted by aman27, I'll bet 330-350 in mostly city driving Here in Atlanta, 32 minutes on a good day of commuting, 23 mpg 6-speed manual and 400 mpg jumping on it....
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| shadow25 (831hp) | 85% city 250 miles away
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| andrey-1983_08 (32hp) | I've had my 535xi for 2 years. I drive 90% in the city, not stop and go, but in the city. I average 17 mpg, I usually get about 400 miles per tank. The most I could achieve on the highway is 26 mpg. Yes I know I mix mpg and km, but my brain works in mpg not in l/100km.
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| panther12 (937hp) | I get about 220 miles per tank, or about 15 mpg...85% city
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| 19841023 (908hp) | I usually get 370-420 per tank.
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| morenaza (639hp) | Quote: Originally posted by UAM951 I usually get $370-$420 per tank. It's very impressive. I have about 340 max in D and about 310 in DS and that's 75% highway and 25% local streets..
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| rockrock (291hp) | Quote: Originally posted by dr.mba Relapse, it depends on your driving habits and whether you are driving in the city or on the highway. I have had my car for over 2 years now. In urban driving in Toronto, I would travel between 400 and 500 km on a tank (70 liters I think). On the highway, I can easily travel 800 km between Ottawa and Toronto. Obviously, the more spirited you drive, the fewer miles you will cover on a tank. Hope this helps. MBA Same here. A city with a highway or an entire city is not good at all. I consume on average 13 to 14 L/100 KM. I went to DC a few weeks ago and even cruising at 130-140 KM/H through some pretty hilly countryside I still managed about 8.6L which showed about 750 KM on a full tank..
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| blandine (88hp) | Quote: Posted by LACSTER Quote: Posted by UAM951 I usually get 370-420 per tank. It's very impressive. I got about 340 max in D and about 310 in DS and that's 75% highway and 25% local streets. Do you have the jb4? Do you drive in sport mode? I ride in sport mode and barely got 350 with my jb4
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| walking1 (900hp) | I usually get about 400 miles to the tank by driving a little aggressively. 430 ish if I take things easier. 80% of travel on motorways with sometimes heavy traffic.
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| 290578 (763hp) | I traveled 320 to 400 km depending on driving style. traffic is very bad in Indonesia.
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| 101073 (315hp) | Average 380-420 miles per tank
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| 101096 (292hp) | Is something wrong with my miles? I just completed 260 miles. I drive 95% in the city and 15% on the highway. I live in Seattle
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| zarafeh (335hp) | by the way, it's a 528i 2013
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| beauty12 (74hp) | I get 24 mpg mostly in the city and an easy 29 mpg highway. 2013 535i xDrive with a JB4 S2. Mileage has also increased as the car enters break-in.
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| jason26 (760hp) | ooh I see, yeah you're right. the break-in is still in progress. do you know what happens once the break-in is complete? by the way, it's 5% highway. I wrote the wrong number
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| 1910 (33hp) | 350 - 390miles 60% highway 40% city normal driving 280 - 340 miles aggressive driving
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| coocoo1 (231hp) | Quote: Posted by EdwardK oohh I see, yeah you're right. the break-in is still in progress. do you know what happens once the break-in is complete? by the way, it's 5% highway. I wrote the wrong number. Your driving situation is one of the worst in terms of fuel consumption, so probably reflect that in the numbers you get. Very difficult to compare, as we all have variables in our driving mix. After a burglary it's not a miracle thing either, usually consumption gradually improves, but don't expect big things if conditions remain the same. It takes regular highway driving to see decent MPG figures. HighlandPete
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| 210980 (422hp) | I travel about 450 km per tank in 80% urban driving. The average speed is around 30 to 40 km/h. With a little more highway mileage I can do 500-520 km and average speed around 50-60 km/h..
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| aj1234 (473hp) | My absolute maximum on a full tank of fuel was 1,086 km, this was with the current F11. I don't remember exactly how much was left/in, it took about 67 liters I guess. Going to a maximum rev of 1,700 rpm will allow this car to easily travel 1,200 km on a single tank.!
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| 198420 (493hp) | A postcard sent to my father, owner of a BMW Series 5
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| guwahati (30hp) | That's funny. Does your dad live somewhere where BMW sells the 525i?
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| � (985hp) | Quote: Posted by dunderhi It's funny. Does your father live somewhere where BMW sells the 525i? Haha no, New England
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| 120889 (281hp) | A small modification to make VW's message more correct...
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| stooge (767hp) | Good. Was it a 1988 525i they were using ??
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