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| jackie14 (787hp) | Well, the car looks 100% blue to me, my wife and the dealer that sold it to me. LOL! This is incredibly funny! I don't even know what color my car is! I just looked at a few images on Google Images and I can see some that look like mine and others that look black. Wow. I guess I have Carbon Black! Ha-Ha!
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| qg9543bh7 (738hp) | LOL, my previous E60 550 was Carbon Black and I love that color. When I wanted to buy it, the dealer listed it as “Jet Black”. I had my doubts about a pitch black car, but when I saw it shining in the sun and blue, I immediately knew it was soot. Any doubts about the purchase vanished
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| 151182 (816hp) | In any case, you need to get rid of it. I mean, now that you've learned it's not what you thought. That's pretty funny. Enjoy your Carbon Black F10, unless you tell us it's jet black next week.
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| JimmyChesh (439hp) | To avoid further personal confusion, I'm having it painted a signature color: fire engine red.
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| horse7 (717hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Fro826 To avoid further personal confusion, I'm having it painted a distinctive color: fire engine red. To me it looks even in the photo in your signature (very dark blue).
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| harley9 (487hp) | I love Carbon Black, my previous E70 was this color. F10s are also rarely seen in this color
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| erroldo (58hp) | I have seen a Carbon Black in every BMW showroom. I think it's a beautiful color. It's great that you have a sense of humor.
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| karen15 (157hp) | I have a Carbon Black 2014 F10. Last winter I had to drive it through a car wash (Wisconsin winter, you know...). Gent behind me was driving an Audi A6 and doing the same. We chatted a little about the cars and when we walked to the other one, our cars were parked next to each other. He commented, "I swear your car was black." But now I see it's actually blue. Fast color change.
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| teddie (562hp) | Thanks Alma, and damn, that's a fun buddy! I'm serious, never in a million years would I have said that the word "black" was in the official color of this car. I can easily see how anyone, myself included, can see how it looks black in certain lighting or from certain angles, but on the whole the Mo-Fo is blue! Anyway, I love the color and I don't care what it's called! Ha-Ha!!!!
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| 18081985 (705hp) | I think it looks gold and blue, just like the dress picture. Actually, it looks great no matter the color.
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| jorge12 (803hp) | The car was painted.
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| architecture (987hp) | Quote: Originally written by raleedy The car was painted. Cons: If the paint tag under the hood says Carbon Shwartz 416, then Carbon Black is what you have. You can also check a VIN decoder. Either way, Carbon Black is a beautiful color. My previous E60 was carbon black, I loved it, very unique.
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| joey01 (814hp) | They sold a lot because they built an exceptionally well-balanced car. Comfortable, spacious, great looking, luxurious cruiser with decent mileage and ultimately still sporty handling for the size. Choosing options wisely goes a long way toward achieving the best possible F10 handling. Not perfect, but damn good, without a doubt one of the best looking and handling vehicles in its class.
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| eric1234 (994hp) | Congratulations to BMW! This was my first “new BMW”, a 2012 F10 535i Sport Black Sapphire on Black! It's the best all-rounder 5 Series ever, ... has tons of style, ... lots of driving fun, ... gets more than 32 mpg (... yes, it does), ... .. very quiet and rock solid!
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| dani12 (456hp) | Quote: Originally written by Bbb34. They sold a lot because they built an exceptionally well-balanced car. Comfortable, spacious, great looking, luxurious cruiser with decent mileage and ultimately still sporty handling for the size. Choosing options wisely goes a long way toward achieving the best possible F10 handling. Not perfect, but damn good, without a doubt one of the best looking and handling vehicles in its class. Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax Yes, the artificial exhaust blasting through the speakers is way better than the natural symphony the V10 gave you. ...once you drive an F10 Fighter M5...you'll welcome this fake exhaust at every opportunity,...and if that doesn't convince you 100%...the jet like everywhere/everywhere/every transmission torque curve becomes. In my opinion... and no one asks about it! The F10 M5 is the best supercar in the world! Bar none! It's not a sports car, a convertible or a two-seat kidney engine! It's an executive sleeper with BIG BALLS!
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| 668668 (648hp) | Quote: Originally posted by JMD Quote: Originally posted by Bbb34 They sold a lot because they built an exceptionally balanced car. Comfortable, spacious, great looking, luxurious cruiser with decent mileage and ultimately still sporty handling for the size. Choosing options wisely goes a long way toward achieving the best possible F10 handling. Not perfect, but damn good, without a doubt one of the best looking and handling vehicles in its class. Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax Yes, the artificial exhaust blasting through the speakers is way better than the natural symphony the V10 gave you. ...once you drive an F10 Fighter M5...you'll welcome this fake exhaust at every opportunity,...and if that doesn't convince you 100%...the jet like everywhere/everywhere/every transmission torque curve becomes. In my opinion... and no one asks about it! The F10 M5 is the best supercar in the world! Bar none! It's not a sports car, a convertible or a two-seat kidney engine! It's an executive sleeper with BIG BALLS! I've been driving it almost every day for four years now. I hated and still hate Active Sound. I think it's a stupid system. The torque didn't convince me either. Traction is a problem. What I liked about the Exx generation was that the engine was linear. Torque built up as the rev range increased and stopped falling after 5,500 rpm. In wet conditions it drives very well on the race track. I admit that much.
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| manish123 (19hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax Yes, the artificial exhaust blasting through the speakers is way better than the natural symphony the V10 gave you. Even if this fake exhaust sounds through the speakers, the actual exhaust on the outside has a nice sound when you replace the exhaust system. But I have to say that the V10 exhaust note is the winner for me.
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| EliteAutoImports (545hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax I've been driving it almost daily for four years now. I hated and still hate Active Sound. I think it's a stupid system. The torque didn't convince me either. Traction is a problem. What I liked about the Exx generation was that the engine was linear. Torque built up as the rev range increased and stopped falling after 5,500 rpm. In wet conditions it drives very well on the race track. I admit that much. Well,...some things change,...some things stay the same. Have fun driving... and so on
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| 250392 (225hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax I've been driving it almost daily for four years now. I hated and still hate Active Sound. I think it's a stupid system. The torque didn't convince me either. Traction is a problem. What I liked about the Exx generation was that the engine was linear. Torque built up as the rev range increased and stopped falling after 5,500 rpm. In wet conditions it drives very well on the race track. I admit that much. The active sound is definitely annoying, we agree. What I don't agree with you on is the performance of the F10 M5. The V10 is nothing less than a good performing car, but the F10 does much more and controls it much better. No matter what rear-wheel drive car you drive, traction will always be an issue. That was a bad comparison, lol
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| vanessa10 (773hp) | also my first BMW! I knew what I wanted from the start! Now if I can get my hands on an M5!
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| leonie1 (298hp) | The best square design on body panels to date.
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| lbyjpfdh (504hp) | Quote: Originally posted by JMD ...gets over 32 mpg on the highway (...yes, it does),! Goodness, and I was happy with 25 on the highway. I have to drive it differently.
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| 1188 (725hp) | Quote: Originally posted by PJinCA This is both good and bad. As a BMW enthusiast and owner of two previous E60s, I know that the F10 was a departure from BMW. They have evolved from a car for true enthusiasts to a more comfortable and quiet car that appeals to more people. This resulted in record sales figures, but also a car that was significantly less capable as a driver's car than the previous E60, the E39 and the cars that preceded them. Don't get me wrong, I have an F10 and I enjoy it. It meets the needs of me and my family better than the E60 it replaced. It's bigger and more comfortable for everyone. However, it doesn't give me the thrill in the corners that the E60 had. Exactly
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| fantastic1 (103hp) | Quote: Originally written by PJinCA. For everyday driving the DCT is fantastic as it performs very well in traffic and when overtaking the car. While the SMG was terrible in city traffic, combined with the trans tuning and pedaling it was great on the track (emphasis added). That's exactly right. Once the S85+SMG III no longer needs stop-and-go in the suburbs, it is a unique and almost brutal force for a sedan. Quote: Originally written by PJinCA. The E60 seemed more responsive, definitely gave better feedback through the steering wheel and rear, and was correct too. Driving back-to-back, comparing the E60 to the F10 is pretty drastic: the former is like grabbing the neck of a wild stallion - thereby exerting direct control over the intimidating force - while the latter is like taking the reins of a trained show horse - performing various controlled actions. The size and weight differences alone guarantee that the two models are significantly different from each other.
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| 03121986 (893hp) | To some extent I understand the problem you have with performance. I'd also like to see more steering feel and DHP sport mode standard on all F10 models, but you forget that it's a very large sedan, not necessarily intended to be a race car. The E60, on the other hand, lacked space, especially in the back, and didn't look nearly as good as the F10 (subjective, I know - that's just my opinion). Which car do you think drives better today than the F10 of the same class???
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| amerika1 (48hp) | For me the E60 was the best 5 Series
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| singer12 (261hp) | Quote: Originally written by aman27 For me the E60 was the best 5 Series?? Personally, I loved my E60, but my favorite 5 Series is still the E39. Things still look good to me to this day. Overall, the E60s had a unique look. The best thing about the Exx cars was that they didn't look identical. These days it's hard to tell the difference between a 3/5/7 series. As for the Exx cars, the E90 didn't look identical to the E60, and the E60 didn't look identical to the E65. They were intentionally completely different looking cars. That disappeared with the Fxx cars, which is kind of sad. LOL, I know I have to sound like I'm pressing F10, but I'm not. It suits my current needs well, I like the comfort, the space and the technology. However, I miss a few things that made the E60 and previous generations special compared to comparable cars in their segments.
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| cracker12 (732hp) | I have a 2011 CPO...kind of tempted to get a newer one...if I hadn't modified this one...I love the F10.
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| juelz1 (832hp) | Quote: Originally posted by PJinCA This is both good and bad. As a BMW enthusiast and owner of two previous E60s, I know that the F10 was a departure from BMW. They have evolved from a car for true enthusiasts to a more comfortable and quiet car that appeals to more people. This resulted in record sales figures, but also a car that was significantly less capable as a driver's car than the previous E60, the E39 and the cars that preceded them. Don't get me wrong, I have an F10 and I enjoy it. It meets the needs of me and my family better than the E60 it replaced. It's bigger and more comfortable for everyone. However, it doesn't give me the thrill in the corners that the E60 had. And that's why I simply bought a 2010 E60 instead of a 2011 F10. The price difference between the models I looked at was minimal, less than $4,000, so I could have bought either generation. While the F10 is much more luxurious on the inside (and looks better on the outside), I just couldn't get over how different it drives and how much more anesthetized the F car feels. Stupid or inspired, time will tell I guess.
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| doodie1 (174hp) | Quote: Originally written by adc And that's why I simply bought a 2010 E60 instead of a 2011 F10. The price difference between the models I looked at was minimal, less than $4,000, so I could have bought either generation. While the F10 is much more luxurious on the inside (and looks better on the outside), I just couldn't get over how different it drives and how much more anesthetized the F car feels. Stupid or inspired, time will tell I guess. Did you buy the M??5?
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| jesus (591hp) | Quote: Originally written by Royce Martin Did you buy the M5? No, a 535xi as a DC and family runabout. I already have an M3 for hardcore thrills and before that the E90 M3 with the high-revving V8. I've experienced both sides of the power/torque argument, so to speak. The E60 M5 scares me a little in terms of reliability.
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| avsbmw (186hp) | Quote: Originally written by Bbb34 Which car do you think drives better today than the F10 in the same class? Audi A6/S6 and Lexus GS350. Possibly also Cadillac CTS – I haven’t driven the newest one.
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| hughes1 (558hp) | Quote: Originally written by adc No, a 535xi as a DC and family runabout. I already have an M3 for hardcore thrills and before that the E90 M3 with the high-revving V8. I've experienced both sides of the power/torque argument, so to speak. The E60 M5 scares me a little in terms of reliability. The E60 5-series is cool, but the F10 is exponentially better. Just my opinion.
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| angel1989 (920hp) | Quote: Originally written by PJinCA Except for the fact that the M5 is no longer the standout sports sedan. Thanks to the bean counters in the M division, the current M5 may be in third place among super sedans, trailing both the AMG E63 and the Cadillac CTS-V. This is sad for me as I have loved BMWs since I was a child and they have always been a bit better than the competition. For example, the E39 M5 had less power than the E55 AMG. However, it was slightly better in all performance aspects tested. Better cornering, better track times, better braking. That's gone. That's not true, when the F10 M5 came out it killed the competition after Caddy and AMG discontinued their new models. The new M5 has to be better than them then the new AMG will come out and beat the M5 With the new V it's an endless cycle either way. I believe that the F90 M5 will be king again more than 600 hp (which the next M5 will have). The next-generation E63 and CTS-V will certainly have more. And both have on-par braking performance and better handling than the current M5. This means that M needs to catch up with the M5/M6 as it seems they are solely focused on the M3/M4. Both the V and AMG have everything better, as both were seen testing against the current M5. It would be a waste to drop a car that is weaker than the competition's current models. I also think they put way too much effort into the M3/4, but that's their bread and butter for the M division. Quote: Originally posted by goj The F10 is In its seventh and final model year, the Caddy One did improve on the M5, but if it wasn't possible it would have been a failure considering the 5 Series is reaching the end of its lifespan has. I'm sure the new 5 Series will perform quite well compared to the competition. Remember: as technology advances so quickly, the ebb and flow of product life cycles has an ever-increasing impact on how attractive a brand can be compared to its competitors' older models. I agree that the current generation will stop production in October this year, then the G30 5 will be released, the M5 will be released in 2018 or 2019 and the king will return.....
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| 160178 (871hp) | They sold a lot because they built an exceptionally well-balanced car. Comfortable, spacious, great looking, luxurious cruiser with decent mileage and ultimately still sporty handling for the size. Choosing options wisely goes a long way toward achieving the best possible F10 handling. Not perfect, but damn good, without a doubt one of the best looking and handling vehicles in its class.
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| 171092 (76hp) | Congratulations to BMW! This was my first “new BMW”, a 2012 F10 535i Sport Black Sapphire on Black! It's the best all-rounder 5 Series ever, ... has tons of style, ... lots of driving fun, ... gets more than 32 mpg (... yes, it does), ... .. very quiet and rock solid!
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| czonias (559hp) | Quote: Originally written by Bbb34. They sold a lot because they built an exceptionally well-balanced car. Comfortable, spacious, great looking, luxurious cruiser with decent mileage and ultimately still sporty handling for the size. Choosing options wisely goes a long way toward achieving the best possible F10 handling. Not perfect, but damn good, without a doubt one of the best looking and handling vehicles in its class. Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax Yes, the artificial exhaust blasting through the speakers is way better than the natural symphony the V10 gave you. ...once you drive an F10 Fighter M5...you'll welcome this fake exhaust at every opportunity,...and if that doesn't convince you 100%...the jet like everywhere/everywhere/every transmission torque curve becomes. In my opinion... and no one asks about it! The F10 M5 is the best supercar in the world! Bar none! It's not a sports car, a convertible or a two-seat kidney engine! It's an executive sleeper with BIG BALLS!
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| baby123456 (76hp) | Quote: Originally posted by JMD Quote: Originally posted by Bbb34 They sold a lot because they built an exceptionally balanced car. Comfortable, spacious, great looking, luxurious cruiser with decent mileage and ultimately still sporty handling for the size. Choosing options wisely goes a long way toward achieving the best possible F10 handling. Not perfect, but damn good, without a doubt one of the best looking and handling vehicles in its class. Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax Yes, the artificial exhaust blasting through the speakers is way better than the natural symphony the V10 gave you. ...once you drive an F10 Fighter M5...you'll welcome this fake exhaust at every opportunity,...and if that doesn't convince you 100%...the jet like everywhere/everywhere/every transmission torque curve becomes. In my opinion... and no one asks about it! The F10 M5 is the best supercar in the world! Bar none! It's not a sports car, a convertible or a two-seat kidney engine! It's an executive sleeper with BIG BALLS! I've been driving it almost every day for four years now. I hated and still hate Active Sound. I think it's a stupid system. The torque didn't convince me either. Traction is a problem. What I liked about the Exx generation was that the engine was linear. Torque built up as the rev range increased and stopped falling after 5,500 rpm. In wet conditions it drives very well on the race track. I admit that much.
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| enamorada1 (831hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax Yes, the artificial exhaust blasting through the speakers is way better than the natural symphony the V10 gave you. Even if this fake exhaust sounds through the speakers, the actual exhaust on the outside has a nice sound when you replace the exhaust system. But I have to say that the V10 exhaust note is the winner for me.
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| olqa_motosova (520hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax I've been driving it almost daily for four years now. I hated and still hate Active Sound. I think it's a stupid system. The torque didn't convince me either. Traction is a problem. What I liked about the Exx generation was that the engine was linear. Torque built up as the rev range increased and stopped falling after 5,500 rpm. In wet conditions it drives very well on the race track. I admit that much. Well,...some things change,...some things stay the same. Have fun driving... and so on
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| 29101986 (623hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax I've been driving it almost daily for four years now. I hated and still hate Active Sound. I think it's a stupid system. The torque didn't convince me either. Traction is a problem. What I liked about the Exx generation was that the engine was linear. Torque built up as the rev range increased and stopped falling after 5,500 rpm. In wet conditions it drives very well on the race track. I admit that much. The active sound is definitely annoying, we agree. What I don't agree with you on is the performance of the F10 M5. The V10 is nothing less than a good performing car, but the F10 does much more and controls it much better. No matter what rear-wheel drive car you drive, traction will always be an issue. That was a bad comparison, lol
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| annachet (260hp) | also my first BMW! I knew what I wanted from the start! Now if I can get my hands on an M5!
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| 20092008 (220hp) | The best square design on body panels to date.
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| afbic (610hp) | Quote: Originally posted by JMD ...gets over 32 mpg on the highway (...yes, it does),! Goodness, and I was happy with 25 on the highway. I have to drive it differently.
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| jimmy14 (30hp) | Quote: Originally posted by PJinCA This is both good and bad. As a BMW enthusiast and owner of two previous E60s, I know that the F10 was a departure from BMW. They have evolved from a car for true enthusiasts to a more comfortable and quiet car that appeals to more people. This resulted in record sales figures, but also a car that was significantly less capable as a driver's car than the previous E60, the E39 and the cars that preceded them. Don't get me wrong, I have an F10 and I enjoy it. It meets the needs of me and my family better than the E60 it replaced. It's bigger and more comfortable for everyone. However, it doesn't give me the thrill in the corners that the E60 had. Exactly
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| assmonkey1 (916hp) | Quote: Originally written by PJinCA. For everyday driving the DCT is fantastic as it performs very well in traffic and when overtaking the car. While the SMG was terrible in city traffic, combined with the trans tuning and pedaling it was great on the track (emphasis added). That's exactly right. Once the S85+SMG III no longer needs stop-and-go in the suburbs, it is a unique and almost brutal force for a sedan. Quote: Originally written by PJinCA. The E60 seemed more responsive, definitely gave better feedback through the steering wheel and rear, and was correct too. Driving back-to-back, comparing the E60 to the F10 is pretty drastic: the former is like grabbing the neck of a wild stallion - thereby exerting direct control over the intimidating force - while the latter is like taking the reins of a trained show horse - performing various controlled actions. The size and weight differences alone guarantee that the two models are significantly different from each other.
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| nosmoking (369hp) | To some extent I understand the problem you have with performance. I'd also like to see more steering feel and DHP sport mode standard on all F10 models, but you forget that it's a very large sedan, not necessarily intended to be a race car. The E60, on the other hand, lacked space, especially in the back, and didn't look nearly as good as the F10 (subjective, I know - that's just my opinion). Which car do you think drives better today than the F10 of the same class???
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| blitzkrieg (981hp) | For me the E60 was the best 5 Series
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| 130691 (73hp) | Quote: Originally written by aman27 For me the E60 was the best 5 Series?? Personally, I loved my E60, but my favorite 5 Series is still the E39. Things still look good to me to this day. Overall, the E60s had a unique look. The best thing about the Exx cars was that they didn't look identical. These days it's hard to tell the difference between a 3/5/7 series. As for the Exx cars, the E90 didn't look identical to the E60, and the E60 didn't look identical to the E65. They were intentionally completely different looking cars. That disappeared with the Fxx cars, which is kind of sad. LOL, I know I have to sound like I'm pressing F10, but I'm not. It suits my current needs well, I like the comfort, the space and the technology. However, I miss a few things that made the E60 and previous generations special compared to comparable cars in their segments.
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| summer25 (670hp) | I have a 2011 CPO...kind of tempted to get a newer one...if I hadn't modified this one...I love the F10.
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| raman (605hp) | Quote: Originally posted by PJinCA This is both good and bad. As a BMW enthusiast and owner of two previous E60s, I know that the F10 was a departure from BMW. They have evolved from a car for true enthusiasts to a more comfortable and quiet car that appeals to more people. This resulted in record sales figures, but also a car that was significantly less capable as a driver's car than the previous E60, the E39 and the cars that preceded them. Don't get me wrong, I have an F10 and I enjoy it. It meets the needs of me and my family better than the E60 it replaced. It's bigger and more comfortable for everyone. However, it doesn't give me the thrill in the corners that the E60 had. And that's why I simply bought a 2010 E60 instead of a 2011 F10. The price difference between the models I looked at was minimal, less than $4,000, so I could have bought either generation. While the F10 is much more luxurious on the inside (and looks better on the outside), I just couldn't get over how different it drives and how much more anesthetized the F car feels. Stupid or inspired, time will tell I guess.
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| Linked1 (341hp) | Quote: Originally written by adc And that's why I simply bought a 2010 E60 instead of a 2011 F10. The price difference between the models I looked at was minimal, less than $4,000, so I could have bought either generation. While the F10 is much more luxurious on the inside (and looks better on the outside), I just couldn't get over how different it drives and how much more anesthetized the F car feels. Stupid or inspired, time will tell I guess. Did you buy the M??5?
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| 1dancer (651hp) | Quote: Originally written by Royce Martin Did you buy the M5? No, a 535xi as a DC and family runabout. I already have an M3 for hardcore thrills and before that the E90 M3 with the high-revving V8. I've experienced both sides of the power/torque argument, so to speak. The E60 M5 scares me a little in terms of reliability.
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| dbrnjhjdbx (336hp) | Quote: Originally written by Bbb34 Which car do you think drives better today than the F10 in the same class? Audi A6/S6 and Lexus GS350. Possibly also Cadillac CTS – I haven’t driven the newest one.
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| sophie08 (590hp) | Quote: Originally written by adc No, a 535xi as a DC and family runabout. I already have an M3 for hardcore thrills and before that the E90 M3 with the high-revving V8. I've experienced both sides of the power/torque argument, so to speak. The E60 M5 scares me a little in terms of reliability. The E60 5-series is cool, but the F10 is exponentially better. Just my opinion.
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| kucing123 (778hp) | Quote: Originally written by PJinCA Except for the fact that the M5 is no longer the standout sports sedan. Thanks to the bean counters in the M division, the current M5 may be in third place among super sedans, trailing both the AMG E63 and the Cadillac CTS-V. This is sad for me as I have loved BMWs since I was a child and they have always been a bit better than the competition. For example, the E39 M5 had less power than the E55 AMG. However, it was slightly better in all performance aspects tested. Better cornering, better track times, better braking. That's gone. That's not true, when the F10 M5 came out it killed the competition after Caddy and AMG discontinued their new models. The new M5 has to be better than them then the new AMG will come out and beat the M5 With the new V it's an endless cycle either way. I believe that the F90 M5 will be king again more than 600 hp (which the next M5 will have). The next-generation E63 and CTS-V will certainly have more. And both have on-par braking performance and better handling than the current M5. This means that M needs to catch up with the M5/M6 as it seems they are solely focused on the M3/M4. Both the V and AMG have everything better, as both were seen testing against the current M5. It would be a waste to drop a car that is weaker than the competition's current models. I also think they put way too much effort into the M3/4, but that's their bread and butter for the M division. Quote: Originally posted by goj The F10 is in its 7th and final model year, yes Caddy 1 improved on the M5 but if that wasn't possible it would have been a failure considering the 5 series was the end of its Lifespan has been reached. I'm sure the new 5 Series will perform quite well compared to the competition. Remember: as technology advances so quickly, the ebb and flow of product life cycles has an ever-increasing impact on how attractive a brand can be compared to its competitors' older models. I agree that the current generation will stop production in October this year, then the G30 5 will be released, the M5 will be released in 2018 or 2019 and the king will return.....
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| property1 (348hp) | Hello everyone, just introducing myself to the crew of 5. Recently I purchased a 2011 535 xDrive M Sport as my DD. I definitely have a BMW problem as this is my fourth BMW in three years. I've wanted a 5 Series for some time and I'm glad to have finally found the one that I think is right for me. I'm a real DIYer and have no problem stripping something down to the last washer to maintain it. I plan on keeping this bad boy for many, many years. We look forward to the great forum interactions that we are all used to!
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| nfbcbz (155hp) | Welcome. WOW, I thought I was bad with my third 5 Series in 10 years. My 535 is my 41st car and I'm enjoying it so far. If you do DIY stuff, please post it if you can. I'm also a big DIYer, and while I'm familiar with the E60, the F10 is pretty new to me (I got mine a little over a month ago). Where in CO are you from? I grew up in Denver, in Cherry Creek across from the Denver Country Club.
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| 197412 (467hp) | Some spoiled people here lol! I didn't get my first BMW until I was 40, haha! Probably because I was more interested in imports and high-lift trucks before the Euro scene? Welcome to the forums!
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| brittany01 (541hp) | As they say: welcome aboard and congratulations!!!
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| 123520 (512hp) | Thank you everyone! I also didn't get my first BMW until I was 40, so I totally agree with you! I made the mistake three years ago of telling my boss at work that I was looking for a new DD. His answer was: Why don't you think about an E90? I didn't even know what it was back then. Then my next mistake was driving a 2007 328i. I had never felt like this car had any part of the road. So that ruined me. Ha! They were always used cars with over 70,000 miles and no warranty, I never bought a new car. My first was a 2006 330xi that I sold two years ago after purchasing an E46 M3 with 100,000 miles that I still have and use almost exclusively for autocross and track events. Then last fall I bought another 2006 330xi. I was really thinking about the 335 or 535, but when I came across the E90 with 6 speed, I couldn't pass it up because I liked the previous E90, except that it didn't have a manual transmission. After that I left the “Search” active on “cars.com”, which was the next error and led me to the F10. Now I have another E90 330xi for sale. Once I find a place to post an image online, I'll update this thread.
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| shadrach (157hp) | Image in signature, I believe
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| toptop (430hp) | Very nice, Carbon Black? My previous car was an E60 550 in Carbon Black, I love that color
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| 211278 (403hp) | Actually it's Deep Sea Blue Metallic and not a bad feeling, when I saw it in certain lighting I thought it was black. And even the dealer I bought it from had a little information tag on the key ring and it said black! I also love the Carbon Black. I like this blue. My first 330xi was Monaco Blue and I loved that color too. Oh, and PJ, I live east of Longmont, in Mead.
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| TheGr8Swami (184hp) | Welcome to the F10 and the DIY attitude. I have my 2011 535i and love the challenge of working on it myself and learning everything about it. You will love this car.
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| 554433 (703hp) | Congratulations ! I like the DIY attitude, that's pretty cool to see. For me, and admittedly I don't work on my own cars, complexity and electronics are a bit intimidating.
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| raymond7 (330hp) | Welcome new guy, always buys pizza
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| theblues (426hp) | Quote: Originally written by EL Jeffe 5 Welcome, the new guy always buys pizza, I get mine from Filippi...
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| cowboy7 (372hp) | Welcome aboard. Another 5 modders are needed.
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| pepsi01 (331hp) | Thanks guys! I love the car so far. 1000 miles in one week of ownership. I better back out or I'll hit six figures later this year. Lol!
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| 10101978 (402hp) | When I picked up my F10 535 I knew nothing about the car. I just looked at YarkBMW's CPO list and chose based on looks, lol! It was only after I purchased the car that I learned about the engine, package and all the aftermarket extras. I have never regretted buying it or wanting a 550 or M5. But I know my next BMW after I pick up my wife's X5 will be an M5, any plans for upgrades or anything?
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| jck1974 (191hp) | I'm planning on getting a JB4, a trunk lid spoiler, an exhaust system, CAI and maybe some M5 or 550 bits to go with the 535. But I have a lot of maintenance to take care of first, so it'll be a while before I start spending $ on upgrades/mods.
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| 20091996 (77hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Fro826 I'm planning on getting a JB4, trunk lid spoiler, exhaust system, CAI and maybe some M5 or 550 bits to go with the 535. But I have a lot of maintenance to take care of first so it will be a while before I start spending $ on upgrades/mods. Just don't put M5 logos on your car... you'll be crucified and your car set on fire!
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| feefee (633hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg, just don't put M5 logos on your car... you'll be crucified and your car set on fire! Why not? Will people actually point this out to you??
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| andi123 (392hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Phoenix759 Why not? Will people actually point this out to you? If you look at the M5 boards you'll see what I mean
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| 223456789 (459hp) | Isturbo – yes, I knew about that a long time ago. The word poser seems to be a common word used to describe someone with M logos and/or the M stripe on a non-M logo. I have the M Sport package on my 535 and the M and stripes are all on the inside of the car, not the outside. Think of it as things you should never say to your wife or girlfriend, like to calm down....
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| roderic (593hp) | I'll just get a Maserati
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| june04 (758hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg, just don't put M5 logos on your car... you'll be crucified and your car set on fire! Yes, there's nothing that gets you more excited in a BMW forum than putting M badging on a non-M car. That and adding chrome to your car will definitely set you on fire (see: 5 series.net envy thread - it's many years old but you'll get the idea) This is what happens when you doing stupid things to your car: http://5series.net/forums/e60-parts-...g-today-52172/ ^^Best forum thread in history
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| 132313 (38hp) | Hello everyone, just introducing myself to the crew of 5. Recently I purchased a 2011 535 xDrive M Sport as my DD. I definitely have a BMW problem as this is my fourth BMW in three years. I've wanted a 5 Series for some time and I'm glad to have finally found the one that I think is right for me. I'm a real DIYer and have no problem stripping something down to the last washer to maintain it. I plan on keeping this bad boy for many, many years. We look forward to the great forum interactions that we are all used to!
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| 211200 (44hp) | Welcome. WOW, I thought I was bad with my third 5 Series in 10 years. My 535 is my 41st car and I'm enjoying it so far. If you do DIY stuff, please post it if you can. I'm also a big DIYer, and while I'm familiar with the E60, the F10 is pretty new to me (I got mine a little over a month ago). Where in CO are you from? I grew up in Denver, in Cherry Creek across from the Denver Country Club.
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| badromance (596hp) | Some spoiled people here lol! I didn't get my first BMW until I was 40, haha! Probably because I was more interested in imports and high-lift trucks before the Euro scene? Welcome to the forums!
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| 3grandkids (772hp) | As they say: welcome aboard and congratulations!!!
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| 56785678 (290hp) | Thank you everyone! I also didn't get my first BMW until I was 40, so I totally agree with you! I made the mistake three years ago of telling my boss at work that I was looking for a new DD. His answer was: Why don't you think about an E90? I didn't even know what it was back then. Then my next mistake was driving a 2007 328i. I had never felt like this car had any part of the road. So that ruined me. Ha! They were always used cars with over 70,000 miles and no warranty, I never bought a new car. My first was a 2006 330xi that I sold two years ago after purchasing an E46 M3 with 100,000 miles that I still have and use almost exclusively for autocross and track events. Then last fall I bought another 2006 330xi. I was really thinking about the 335 or 535, but when I came across the E90 with 6 speed, I couldn't pass it up because I liked the previous E90, except that it didn't have a manual transmission. After that I left the “Search” active on “cars.com”, which was the next error and led me to the F10. Now I have another E90 330xi for sale. Once I find a place to post an image online, I'll update this thread.
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| 02081978 (748hp) | Image in signature, I believe
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| 301094 (909hp) | Very nice, Carbon Black? My previous car was an E60 550 in Carbon Black, I love that color
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| dancehall (815hp) | Actually it's Deep Sea Blue Metallic and not a bad feeling, when I saw it in certain lighting I thought it was black. And even the dealer I bought it from had a little information tag on the key ring and it said black! I also love the Carbon Black. I like this blue. My first 330xi was Monaco Blue and I loved that color too. Oh, and PJ, I live east of Longmont, in Mead.
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| spongbob (108hp) | Welcome to the F10 and the DIY attitude. I have my 2011 535i and love the challenge of working on it myself and learning everything about it. You will love this car.
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| pajarito (242hp) | Congratulations ! I like the DIY attitude, that's pretty cool to see. For me, and admittedly I don't work on my own cars, complexity and electronics are a bit intimidating.
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| murano (440hp) | Welcome new guy, always buys pizza
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| tecate1 (189hp) | Quote: Originally written by EL Jeffe 5 Welcome, the new guy always buys pizza, I get mine from Filippi...
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| E92BSM10 (652hp) | Welcome aboard. Another 5 modders are needed.
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| arsenal5 (975hp) | Thanks guys! I love the car so far. 1000 miles in one week of ownership. I better back out or I'll hit six figures later this year. Lol!
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| bigboy! (769hp) | When I picked up my F10 535 I knew nothing about the car. I just looked at YarkBMW's CPO list and chose based on looks, lol! It was only after I purchased the car that I learned about the engine, package and all the aftermarket extras. I have never regretted buying it or wanting a 550 or M5. But I know my next BMW after I pick up my wife's X5 will be an M5, any plans for upgrades or anything?
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| ganesha1 (935hp) | I'm planning on getting a JB4, a trunk lid spoiler, an exhaust system, CAI and maybe some M5 or 550 bits to go with the 535. But I have a lot of maintenance to take care of first, so it'll be a while before I start spending $ on upgrades/mods.
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| fhvfutljy (435hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Fro826 I'm planning on getting a JB4, trunk lid spoiler, exhaust system, CAI and maybe some M5 or 550 bits to go with the 535. But I have a lot of maintenance to take care of first so it will be a while before I start spending $ on upgrades/mods. Just don't put M5 logos on your car... you'll be crucified and your car set on fire!
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| cheer6 (48hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg, just don't put M5 logos on your car... you'll be crucified and your car set on fire! Why not? Will people actually point this out to you??
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| buddy16 (766hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Phoenix759 Why not? Will people actually point this out to you? If you look at the M5 boards you'll see what I mean
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| renee22 (317hp) | Isturbo – yes, I knew about that a long time ago. The word poser seems to be a common word used to describe someone with M logos and/or the M stripe on a non-M logo. I have the M Sport package on my 535 and the M and stripes are all on the inside of the car, not the outside. Think of it as things you should never say to your wife or girlfriend, like to calm down....
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| manutd12 (881hp) | I'll just get a Maserati
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| dylan5 (458hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg, just don't put M5 logos on your car... you'll be crucified and your car set on fire! Yes, there's nothing that gets you more excited in a BMW forum than putting M badging on a non-M car. That and adding chrome to your car will definitely set you on fire (see: 5 series.net envy thread - it's many years old but you'll get the idea) This is what happens when you doing stupid things to your car: http://5series.net/forums/e60-parts-...g-today-52172/ ^^Best forum thread in history
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| Acadia550i (980hp) | I was at the Berlin Raceway today and as I was driving home I felt a very unusual bouncing feeling while driving. I still have no idea what it was at the moment, but when I got out to inspect the car, my lip was completely hanging off and was only held on by two screws (all the others fell off). So that was my day today!
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| 180293 (745hp) | Always use screws and nuts for fastening. If you only use self-tapping screws, use a lot of double-sided tape. Hopefully the lip is still intact.
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| EnzoCali (723hp) | You should have taken photos so we could see it! As Simple3 said, use nuts and bolts to attach it. I also added 3m of tape. Remember that there was probably some downforce on the spoiler and that's why the screws didn't hold
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| arsenal13 (632hp) | +1 Nuts, bolts and as a bonus a lock washer. I did my lip like this and have bumped, scratched and smashed it everywhere and it still fits perfectly.
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| lukinhas (785hp) | Look at this even though it is damaged and still remains strong.
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| pretty15 (170hp) | I've never had a problem, I used 6 3m double sided car strips and a few screws so I'm not sure if I might hit the ground somewhere but it sucks
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| lost4ever (735hp) | That's a lot of junk! How deep are you???
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| pcp1234 (114hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg You should have taken photos so we could see! As Simple3 said, use nuts and bolts to attach it. I also added 3m of tape. Remember that there was probably some downforce on the spoiler and that's why the screws didn't hold. I'll post the picture later!
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| caballo (709hp) | I was at the Berlin Raceway today and as I was driving home I felt a very unusual bouncing feeling while driving. I still have no idea what it was at the moment, but when I got out to inspect the car, my lip was completely hanging off and was only held on by two screws (all the others fell off). So that was my day today!
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| duc (503hp) | Always use screws and nuts for fastening. If you only use self-tapping screws, use a lot of double-sided tape. Hopefully the lip is still intact.
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| audixbmw (911hp) | You should have taken photos so we could see it! As Simple3 said, use nuts and bolts to attach it. I also added 3m of tape. Remember that there was probably some downforce on the spoiler and that's why the screws didn't hold
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| junglist (923hp) | +1 Nuts, bolts and as a bonus a lock washer. I did my lip like this and have bumped, scratched and smashed it everywhere and it still fits perfectly.
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| fred20 (388hp) | Look at this even though it is damaged and still remains strong.
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| 280707 (35hp) | I've never had a problem, I used 6 3m double sided car strips and a few screws so I'm not sure if I might hit the ground somewhere but it sucks
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| babygirl23 (412hp) | Is the 5 Series equipped with the active sound for the exhaust? I doubt it, but could it be coded? Does the module already exist to make this possible???
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| peg (389hp) | That's a lot of junk! How deep are you???
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| 700084 (165hp) | It has ASD, but not for the exhaust.
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| 26041984 (896hp) | Quote: Originally posted by lsturbointeg You should have taken photos so we could see! As Simple3 said, use nuts and bolts to attach it. I also added 3m of tape. Remember that there was probably some downforce on the spoiler and that's why the screws didn't hold. I'll post the picture later!
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| 011082 (728hp) | I thought it was M5 only so I never looked into the coding, but recently read about some 4 owners playing around with ASD.
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| pacman123 (936hp) | Quote: Originally written by Almaretto. I thought it was M5 only so I never looked into the coding, but recently read about some 4 owners playing around with ASD. I looked for replacement parts at Realoem and found that the module is not present in my car. You can see it clearly on the M5 and also on the M550d
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