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| delinage (271hp) | Yes, M_Bimmer said it all
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| killer19 (847hp) | Quote: Originally written by M_Bimmer. So for $29,000 you can get another, newer, lower mileage F10...100% complete. But if you love your current 2011 so much, then a new short block from BMW is $15,000 with no labor... but even with +$2,000 of labor you're still under $20,000, so sounds like $29,000 US Dollars A $10,000 rip-off. Assuming the clicking is due to a spun main bearing, the engine block with new pistons, rods and crankshaft from BMW would cost $5,000... and $2,000 to install would cost $7,000... pretty much reasonable... And if you want to be a little more fuel efficient, replacing a crankshaft and main bearings without removing the engine should cost $4,000. Unless the engine is completely hosed down, BMW has parts to repair an engine. So there's no good reason to replace the whole thing for $29,000. BUT I would want a full written appraisal from the dealer that proves a $29,000 bill is justified. Plus, if your car is running, the dealer would fetch more than $1,000 at auction. Check out some auction sites $29,000...pay for towing and get a second opinion...and for a 9 year old car the dealer should really be the last resort for an out of warranty repair. Depending on your situation, this would be a great project car, but you could also get a complete engine from an auto recycler or engine rebuilder, or sell the car yourself to someone who can repair the car... you'll still get over $1000 for it . For your 9 year old car, even if the interior is excellent, I would get a used engine (with a warranty) for $1,200 (everything in it - belts, etc.) and have it swapped for about $700. .There is risk in this option, but the least expensive option would be the best in your case... Reason? If you buy a new engine that lasts longer than the rest of your car, you're simply wasting money. [Note] The dollar values above are for reference only and are not real quotes. First of all... THANK YOU SO MUCH. This is exactly the type of information I was looking for. And your post is also helpful to better understand that my dealer is charging way too much and to trade in the other direction. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. More information about the specific problem with the engine and the explanation I received from the dealer. They say that the connecting rod bearings are very worn and causing the clicking noise and are on the verge of breaking or seizing, so the engine needs to be completely replaced. Does this change any of the answers above? I'm assuming this isn't the case, and getting a used engine to get it running again would still be a primary option. I will take it to a private BMW mechanic to look into this option. Seems like investing 2-3k on the car to preserve value for resale or simply extend the life of the car for my own use is the way to go. Or at least if I decide to get a new BMW, it sounds like, as you mentioned, I could sell the car even in its current condition to someone who might want to repair it/use it for a project for more to achieve 1k trade-in than the specified trader. Any advice on where to start to find a buyer? It's been 9 years since I sold a car,.
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| Kevin123 (699hp) | I buy it for 1,000, obviously the dealer's offer is stupid. The only logical option is to leave the Find Used and Install Indy option. But is a repair that costs almost 10,000 worth it for you? Why do everyone have engine failures in 2011, very strange??
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| 190787 (924hp) | Quote: Originally written by OnlyGerman. I buy it for 1,000, obviously the dealer offer is stupid. The only logical option is to leave the Find Used and Install Indy option. But is a repair that costs almost 10,000 worth it for you? Why do all 2011s have engine failures, very strange? Scheduled an Indy appointment in two Fridays (they must be busy given the outrageous dealer prices, ha). If the price ends up being 10,000, then the work wouldn't be worth it at 11,000. Of course, it's better to just sell it as is than the 1,000 trade-in offer
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| leave (53hp) | I'm not a mechanic, but isn't it possible to fix connecting rod bearing problems without buying a completely new engine??
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| 010475 (984hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Kmmitchct 2011 535i xDrive 83,000 miles Engine clicks. Took it to the dealer. Suppose the engine is ready. I quote a price of 29,000 for a new engine. When asked about a used car I was told it wasn't worth it given the value of my car. I asked them to give me an exchange value and told me that with a working engine they would have given me 11.5k but can only give me 1k as they can't sell at auction without an engine. Admittedly I'm uneducated in this area, but some of the above feels like bullshit. I come here hoping to get some advice. 1. 29k seems extreme. I read on here and saw offers for 4-24k. What am I missing? 29,000 are in labor and they say it will last a week. That's a crazy quote, right? Why do I see such a wide range of estimates? What would that do? 2. Can I exchange the engine for a used one if it's worth it? If my car's value is 11,000 with the engine but 1,000 without the engine (more on that below), then it would definitely be worth it if I could get a 4,000 used engine installed. Right? Is this possible? 3. Do you want to pressure me with a trade-in value of 1,000 euros for a 2011 535i xDrive with a non-functioning engine? Seems like the rest of the car is worth over 1k. I can't find a place to get a value without a motor. Amy, any advice you all can give is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Have you recently done the oil filter housing seal? Some workshops do not carry out the oil suction procedure properly or dirt gets into the oil passage, causing the engine to stall. Quote: Originally written by OnlyGerman. I buy it for 1,000, obviously the dealer offer is stupid. The only logical option is to leave the Find Used and Install Indy option. But is a repair that costs almost 10,000 worth it for you? Why do all 2011s have engine failures, very strange? I wouldn't say the 2011 engines are junk. It could be that the early 535i cars now cost less than 10,000 euros and the people who buy them are taking them to a scrap dealer or simply don't care for them like the first or second owners did.
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| ts3prueba (947hp) | Early 535i had the N54 engine, LCI were all N55
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| vinvin (305hp) | Quote: Originally written by Snakle535i. The early 535i had the N54 engine. LCI were all N55, er. NO. I think this is the E90 335i, which has a bit of both. The early F10 535i did get PWG instead of EWG, but I believe the switch to EWG also happened late before LCI. I'm very interested in the rise of stories in 2011. Especially where OFHG has nothing to do with it, that's what's coming to me too.
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| 131088 (746hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Nickco43 Quote: Originally posted by Kmmitchct 2011 535i xDrive 83,000 miles Engine clicks. Took it to the dealer. Suppose the engine is ready. I quote a price of 29,000 for a new engine. When asked about a used car I was told it wasn't worth it given the value of my car. I asked them to give me an exchange value and told me that with a working engine they would have given me 11.5k but can only give me 1k as they can't sell at auction without an engine. Admittedly I'm uneducated in this area, but some of the above feels like bullshit. I come here hoping to get some advice. 1. 29k seems extreme. I read on here and saw offers for 4-24k. What am I missing? 29,000 are in labor and they say it will last a week. That's a crazy quote, right? Why do I see such a wide range of estimates? What would that do? 2. Can I exchange the engine for a used one if it's worth it? If my car's value is 11,000 with the engine but 1,000 without the engine (more on that below), then it would definitely be worth it if I could get a 4,000 used engine installed. Right? Is this possible? 3. Do you want to pressure me with a trade-in value of 1,000 euros for a 2011 535i xDrive with a non-functioning engine? Seems like the rest of the car is worth over 1k. I can't find a place to get a value without a motor. Amy, any advice you all can give is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Have you recently done the oil filter housing seal? Some workshops do not carry out the oil suction procedure properly or dirt gets into the oil passage, causing the engine to stall. Quote: Originally written by OnlyGerman. I will buy it for 1,000, obviously the dealer offer is stupid. The only logical option is to leave the Find Used and Install Indy option. But is a repair that costs almost 10,000 worth it for you? Why do all 2011s have engine failures, very strange? I wouldn't say the 2011 engines are junk. It could be that the early 535i cars now cost less than 10,000 euros and the people who buy them are taking them to a scrap dealer or simply don't care for them like the first or second owners did. Most of the issues we see on this 535 forum are from 2011... first year, too many issues. Second person to report engine failure, both 2011.
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| farscape1 (793hp) | Quote: Originally posted by philipm785 I'm not a mechanic, but isn't it possible to fix connecting rod bearing problems without buying a whole new engine? It depends on whether a bearing has spun and the bearing material has contaminated the block. But yes, connecting rod bearings can be proactively replaced to save an otherwise good engine. OP, find a reputable independent BMW or Euro Car mechanic who will easily rebuild the engine, replace the rod bearings, or trade in a used engine, depending on what the car needs.
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| vatomis (192hp) | Quote: Originally written by beegeezy. It depends on whether a bearing has spun and the bearing material has contaminated the block. But yes, connecting rod bearings can be proactively replaced to save an otherwise good engine. OP, find a reputable independent BMW or Euro Car mechanic who will easily rebuild the engine, replace the rod bearings, or trade in a used engine, depending on what the car needs. That's exactly what supposedly happened. "A bearing spun and the bearing material contaminated the block." What's frustrating is that a year ago under extreme acceleration I faintly heard the clicking and turned it on and they couldn't figure out what was going on. Said they couldn't hear it and it was probably nothing. In hindsight, I should have insisted that something was wrong. Thanks. I have an appointment for next Friday. In the meantime, I'm looking at the 2020 540i xDrives, just in case. Better check this forum to see if there are any warning signs you should pay attention to with this engine
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| joseph20 (157hp) | Quote: Originally written by Kmmitchct. That's exactly what supposedly happened. A bearing has spun and material from bearing E has contaminated the block. What's frustrating is that a year ago I faintly heard the clicking under extreme acceleration and turned it on and they couldn't figure out what was going on. Said they couldn't hear it and it was probably nothing. In hindsight, I should have insisted that something was wrong. Thanks. I have an appointment for next Friday. In the meantime, I'm looking at the 2020 540i xDrives, just in case. Better check this forum to see if there are any warning signs you need to pay attention to with this engine. Unfortunately, you are faced with a complete engine replacement and need to replace anything that might be contaminated by bearing material (e.g. turbo, oil cooler, etc.) lines etc.)
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| 240886 (815hp) | I bought a broken 2011 535i at auction thinking it might be an easy fix. No. It threw the rod. I don't know the story of it. But I've seen far too many of these failures. So many, in fact, that there should probably be a class action lawsuit over it.
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| 1080 (709hp) | Let's look at the data: N55B30A P/N: 11002210427 01/2009 - 12/2011 = 24 month production N55B30A P/N: 11002218257 01/2011 - 03/2012 = 13 month production N55B30A P/N: 11002249005 04/2012 - 07 /2014 = 28 month production N55B30A P/N: 11002413122 07/2014 - 10/2016 = 28 month production So every F10 had 535 that had the N55 engine and based on the data had the F10 from 2011 and the early 2012 F10, an engine with a problem deemed necessary by BMW, resulted in this version of the engine being shortened so that it remained on the production line for only half as long as the other N55 variants. That's pretty revealing. ...so if your N55B30A P/N: 11002218257 fails, it should be replaced with N55B30A P/N: 11002413122. I would say BMW agrees with previous posts that the 2011 vintage has a problem that would have a higher failure rate than any of the other variations. Note: I couldn't find any data showing that the F10s in the US were ever equipped with an N54 engine. Maybe someone can point me to this information for just the short block (head + block only). There is much more variation and a much larger number of part numbers when it comes to part numbers for fully assembled engines.....
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| tw (453hp) | Quote: Originally written by M_Bimmer Let's look at the data: N55B30A P/N: 11002210427 01/2009 - 12/2011 = 24-month production N55B30A P/N: 11002218257 01/2011 - 03/2012 = 13-month production production N55B30A P/N: 11002249005 04/2012 - 07/2014 = 28 months production N55B30A P/N: 11002413122 07/2014 - 10/2016 = 28 months production So any F10 535 that had the N55 engine and based on the data , The 2011 F10 and early 2012 0s had an engine that experienced a problem deemed necessary by BMW, which resulted in this version of the engine remaining on the production line for only half as long as the other N55 variants. That's pretty revealing. ...so if your N55B30A P/N: 11002218257 fails, it should be replaced with N55B30A P/N: 11002413122. I would say BMW agrees with previous posts that the 2011 vintage has a problem that would have a higher failure rate than any of the other variations. Note: I couldn't find any data showing that the F10s in the US were ever equipped with an N54 engine. Maybe someone can point me to this information for just the short block (head + block only). When it comes to part numbers for fully assembled engines, there are many more variations and number of part numbers... I don't think an F10 anywhere had the N54.
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| manutd10 (978hp) | Take the car to a BMW specialist. You can repair it without replacing the entire engine! The subframe and oil pan as well as the cylinder head must be removed. From down under you should be able to replace the rod bearing, and from above (after the piston is removed) you can replace all of the main bearings
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| raif.21 (162hp) | Quote: Originally written by M_Bimmer Let's look at the data: N55B30A P/N: 11002210427 01/2009 - 12/2011 = 24-month production N55B30A P/N: 11002218257 01/2011 - 03/2012 = 13-month production Production N55B30A P/N: 11002249005 04/2012 - 07/2014 = 28 months Production N55B30A P/N: 11002413122 07/2014 - 10/2016 = 28 months production So any F10 535 that had the N55 engine and based on the Data, 2011 F10 and early 2012 0s had an engine that experienced a problem deemed necessary by BMW, which resulted in this version of the engine remaining on the assembly line for only half as long as the other N55 variants. That's pretty revealing. ...so if your N55B30A P/N: 11002218257 fails, it should be replaced with N55B30A P/N: 11002413122. I would say BMW agrees with previous posts that the 2011 vintage has a problem that would have a higher failure rate than any of the other variations. Note: I couldn't find any data showing that the F10s in the US were ever equipped with an N54 engine. Maybe someone can point me to this information for just the short block (head + block only). There is much more variation and a much larger number of part numbers when it comes to part numbers for fully assembled engines... As an owner of a 2011 model year 3/2011, I am following this closely. When I look around my vehicle's parts system, I don't see the chain of these part numbers. Apparently my short engine PN is 11002218263 or 11002218264 for a replacement. In fact, realOEM says that none of these part numbers can be found anywhere in the parts diagrams for my car. Starting with 11002218257 as a search term, I see that it was used in: 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (FR71): short engine 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (FR72): short engine 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, USA, (FR73): Short Engine Mine is a type FU73. Continuing somewhat: Part 11002210427 was found in the following F10 vehicles: 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (FR71): Short Engine 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (FR72): Short Engine 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, USA, (FR73): Short Engine Part 11002249005 has been found in the following F10 vehicles: 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (FR71): Short Engine 5' F10 , 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (FR72): Short engine 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, USA, (FR73): Short engine 5' F10 LCI, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (5B11) : Short engine 5 ' F10 LCI, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (5B12) : Short engine 5' F10 LCI, 535i, Sedan, N55, USA, (5B13): Short engine part 11002413122 has been found in the following F10 vehicles : 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (FR71) : Short engine 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (FR72) : Short engine 5' F10, 535i, Sedan, N55, USA, ( FR73): Short engine 5' F10 LCI, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (5B11): Short engine 5' F10 LCI, 535i, Sedan, N55, EUR, (5B12): Short engine 5' F10 LCI, 535i, Sedan, N55, USA , (5B13): Short engine. Therefore none of your engine numbers match my vehicle type. Skip through from the “Select Vehicle” screen. The FRs all appear to be RWD and the FUs are AWD. So the AWD engines are different? Or is it just a few different threaded holes that mean a different part number? (Surprised that a car manufacturer would do that for efficiency reasons). Anyway, it might be even more complicated than presented above. You'd think that with all of BMW's document leaks, we'd have found a rundown from N55 engineers about how the oil passages were changed in later revisions and the like. realOEM only seems to say that one of these part numbers was actually TERMINATED (as in DO NOT USE) and that was the 11002249005. All others were simply replaced and have no end date. It's time to get those used oil samples....
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| jello123 (581hp) | Give me your full vin that I can check for you
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| miranda9 (445hp) | I have a build date of 11/2010 and this is what I got out of it:
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| O.S. (510hp) | Post #9 stated that the early F10 535s came with N54 and I was asking if anyone could provide supporting data. RealOEM doesn't show any F10 535 variant that came with anything other than an N55. Anyway, a few things... I don't claim to have included the part numbers of any short block engines that came with any car. There are just too many part numbers. I ONLY looked at the replacement short blocks that were available in the BMW parts bin for replacing your factory engine. This shortens the part number list. The data shows that 2011 engines that were available for replacement were offered for half as long as other versions of the N55 engines... which suggests to me that the 2011 engines that were installed on the production line or Such products offered for replacement by the band were prone to failures within the short block. Too many data points in this situation dilutes the point. My next look will be at engine blocks, then main shafts, then main bearings. I bet one or more caused the short lifespan of the 2011 short block. .I'm just saying it. Cheers.
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| hemi (64hp) | Has anyone noticed the stack of their metal flaps on the tank neck filler neck? I can't fill my gas tank with gas because the metal flap doesn't open when I plug in the fuel nozzle. I took my car to the BMW dealer and was told that they would have to order the defective part from Germany. It will take a few weeks. I have to pay a $200 deductible. The remaining $1,000 is covered by the guarantee. The dealer gave me a loaner of two. 🥲,🥲,🥲,
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| kaitlyn (555hp) | Why do you want to put gas in a 535D??? The reason the hatch doesn't open is because the diesel fuel nozzle is a different size to prevent someone from accidentally putting gasoline in it.
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| bb12345 (722hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BMW FOREVER Why do you want to put gas in a 535D??? The reason the hatch doesn't open is because the diesel fuel nozzle is a different size to prevent someone from accidentally putting gasoline in it. I stand corrected. What I mean by gasoline is diesel. excuse me
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| 198425 (5hp) | go to another gas station. It happened to me once and that was it (wrong nozzle size). I also ordered the emergency filler funnel in case I was on a road trip and needed something.
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| 1christoph (673hp) | Quote: Quote from Zenski: Go to another gas station. It happened to me once and that was it (wrong nozzle size). I also ordered the emergency filler funnel in case I was on a road trip and needed something. I visited two gas stations and tried to use two diesel pumps at each gas station. The metal flap still didn't open. Anyway, I took it to the dealer and confirmed that the flap was defective. You ordered the part from Germany. It will take a few weeks to arrive. 😀,😀,🥲,🥲,
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| steelhead1 (841hp) | Quote: Quote from Zenski: Go to another gas station. It happened to me once and that was it (wrong nozzle size). I also ordered the emergency filler funnel in case I was on a road trip and needed something. May I ask where you bought the filling funnel? Thanks in advance.
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| 090493 (457hp) | Has anyone ever seen a stack of metal flaps on the tank neck filler neck? I can't fill my gas tank with gas because the metal flap doesn't open when I plug in the fuel nozzle. I took my car to the BMW dealer and was told that they would have to order the defective part from Germany. It will take a few weeks. I have to pay a $200 deductible. The remaining $1,000 is covered by the guarantee. The dealer gave me a loaner of two. 🥲,🥲,🥲,
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| spring08 (597hp) | Why do you want to put gas in a 535D??? The reason the hatch doesn't open is because the diesel fuel nozzle is a different size to prevent someone from accidentally putting gasoline in it.
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| 600002 (98hp) | Quote: Originally posted by BMW FOREVER Why do you want to put gas in a 535D??? The reason the hatch doesn't open is because the diesel fuel nozzle is a different size to prevent someone from accidentally putting gasoline in it. I stand corrected. What I mean by gasoline is diesel. excuse me
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| callista (334hp) | go to another gas station. It happened to me once and that was it (wrong nozzle size). I also ordered the emergency filler funnel in case I was on a road trip and needed something.
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| 090187 (483hp) | Quote: Quote from Zenski: Go to another gas station. It happened to me once and that was it (wrong nozzle size). I also ordered the emergency filler funnel in case I was on a road trip and needed something. I visited two gas stations and tried to use two diesel pumps at each gas station. The metal flap still didn't open. Anyway, I took it to the dealer and confirmed that the flap was defective. You ordered the part from Germany. It will take a few weeks to arrive. 😀,😀,🥲,🥲,
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| babydog (367hp) | Quote: Quote from Zenski: Go to another gas station. It happened to me once and that was it (wrong nozzle size). I also ordered the emergency filler funnel in case I was on a road trip and needed something. May I ask where you bought the filling funnel? Thanks in advance.
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| 161982 (583hp) | Hello everyone, I introduce myself and my new F11 535D with the following options: • Color - Xirallic Sophisto Gray • Upholstery - Dakota Leather, Black • Active Cruise Control (ACC) with "Stop and Go" function • Adaptive LED Headlights - including high-beam assistant • Extended parking package - folding exterior mirrors, automatic dimming/reversing camera/parking assistant/all-round visibility • Air conditioning - automatically included Four-zone control • Light alloy wheels - 19 inch M double-spoke design 351M • Bang & Olufsen Advanced Audio system • Comfort package - electric front seat adjustment with driver memory/comfort access/lumbar support driver and front passenger • ConnectedDrive Services package - BMW Online Services/Remote Services/Information Plus • Advanced Bluetooth phone preparation with USB audio interface and voice control • Expanded storage space • Head-up display – includes all-black display • Multifunction instrument panel (only available when head-up display is selected) • Panoramic glass sunroof (not available with BMW Individual reading lights) • Power sockets - 12V • Rear seat heating • Speed limit display (not available with gray band windscreen) • Sport Automatic transmission • Heated steering wheel • Sun protection glass • Tire pressure monitoring
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| 18061984 (139hp) | Very nice. I love the color but then I would. I think mine will look something like this. At least you have the roof rails in the right color (another story) and the B&O system, very nice. Do you think the cost was worth it? This is not a cheap option. What other subtleties did you specify??
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| lazyboy1 (131hp) | Nice car man! My favorite color! And these headlights are great! I wish my 13' could have these headlights upgraded.
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| peterbuilt (948hp) | Quote: Originally written by xs2man Very nice. I love the color but then I would. I think mine will look something like this. At least you have the roof rails in the right color (another story) and the B&O system, very nice. Do you think the cost was worth it? This is not a cheap option. What other subtleties did you specify? I've updated the original post to list the options. The B&O system is pretty good. But I'll still add one of these to boost the low frequencies. http://www.jlaudio.co.uk/product_lis...8189.0.0/TW5v2 I'm trying to install it under the floor in the boot but there isn't much space. Before I had a 2011 Mercedes E class wagon with the Harmon Kardon system and additional 2 #8 JL subs. In my opinion the staging sounded better, but I will evaluate the system again once I have the sub installed.
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| pho (471hp) | Nice looking engine, you must have most of the option boxes ticked. I almost chose this color, but decided on space gray and oxyster leather for contrast. I'm also looking forward to my HK stereo system. I love the LED headlights, but 1500 euros was too much for me, even with leasing! Have fun with it, week by Saturday for my delivery
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| DrRockSalt (938hp) | Quote: Originally written by Piers. Nice looking engine, you must have most of the option boxes ticked. I almost chose this color, but decided on space gray and oxyster leather for contrast. I'm also looking for an HK stereo system. I love the LED headlights, but 1,500 euros was too much for me, even with leasing! Have fun with it, week by Saturday for my delivery. Yes, I was a little crazy about the options, but the dealer gave me a good discount that “paid for” most of them! This is how I justify it in my head
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| chris31 (174hp) | Quote: Originally posted by nsa100 Yes, I was a little crazy about the options, but the dealer gave me a good discount that "paid for" most of them! This is how I justify it in my head. Maybe I did a little math with my specification
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| zorglub (114hp) | I just wanted to say that you must have checked almost every option. I would love this spec but just couldn't justify it. But played well. Must be an epic engine...
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| kpmunchkin28 (104hp) | Beautiful, mine is like the placebo version of you. At least I have the one option you can't have, the xDrive. And some of our US friends will envy the Touring version.
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| Hbimmer (648hp) | Great looking F11 with great engine. I like the LCI's LED headlights.
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| chivas16 (707hp) | That's hawt.
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| eminem! (826hp) | I'm so glad I chose the Sophisto gray too! Looks fantastic. Nice looking car and wow, great options list!
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| 060809 (213hp) | congratulations!
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| lauren08 (668hp) | Nice. Mega specification.
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| 050782 (85hp) | Great car – congratulations – what happened to the LCI grill??
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| BMW3FXD (202hp) | Congratulations, dude. You must be loaded
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| lorrie (973hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Seattle335 Great car - congrats - what happened to the LCI grill? Looks like a pre-LCI M Performance grille.
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| willow12 (679hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Stormbitch, congratulations dude. You must be loaded. Sold my right arm to pay for it. Thank you for all your great comments
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| Unikarl (731hp) | Congratulations, buddy... Looks really great, although I personally prefer the sedan type. I'll post pictures of my 530d next week... will pick it up on Saturday :-)
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| battlefield2 (125hp) | Phwoarrr, what madness! You simply don't need or want more car!!
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| 03111992 (913hp) | Congratulations! I wish we could get the F11 here in the US.
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| laughter1 (737hp) | A very nice F11, nice color and great features, lots of fun
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| brandy7 (371hp) | Hello everyone, I introduce myself and my new F11 535D with the following options: • Color - Xirallic Sophisto Gray • Upholstery - Dakota Leather, Black • Active Cruise Control (ACC) with "Stop and Go" function • Adaptive LED Headlights - including high-beam assistant • Extended parking package - folding exterior mirrors, automatic dimming/reversing camera/parking assistant/all-round visibility • Air conditioning - automatically included Four-zone control • Light alloy wheels - 19 inch M double-spoke design 351M • Bang & Olufsen Advanced Audio system • Comfort package - electric front seat adjustment with driver memory/comfort access/lumbar support driver and front passenger • ConnectedDrive Services package - BMW Online Services/Remote Services/Information Plus • Advanced Bluetooth phone preparation with USB audio interface and voice control • Expanded storage space • Head-up display – includes all-black display • Multifunction instrument panel (only available when head-up display is selected) • Panoramic glass sunroof (not available with BMW Individual reading lights) • Power sockets - 12V • Rear seat heating • Speed limit display (not available with gray band windscreen) • Sport Automatic transmission • Heated steering wheel • Sun protection glass • Tire pressure monitoring
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| aaaaaaaaaaaa (342hp) | Very nice. I love the color but then I would. I think mine will look something like this. At least you have the roof rails in the right color (another story) and the B&O system, very nice. Do you think the cost was worth it? This is not a cheap option. What other subtleties did you specify??
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| 100871 (381hp) | Nice car man! My favorite color! And these headlights are great! I wish my 13' could have these headlights upgraded.
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| pipi (176hp) | Quote: Originally written by xs2man Very nice. I love the color but then I would. I think mine will look something like this. At least you have the roof rails in the right color (another story) and the B&O system, very nice. Do you think the cost was worth it? This is not a cheap option. What other subtleties did you specify? I've updated the original post to list the options. The B&O system is pretty good. But I'll still add one of these to boost the low frequencies. http://www.jlaudio.co.uk/product_lis...8189.0.0/TW5v2 I'm trying to install it under the floor in the boot but there isn't much space. Before I had a 2011 Mercedes E class wagon with the Harmon Kardon system and additional 2 #8 JL subs. In my opinion the staging sounded better, but I will evaluate the system again once I have the sub installed.
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| fashion101 (589hp) | Nice looking engine, you must have most of the option boxes ticked. I almost chose this color, but decided on space gray and oxyster leather for contrast. I'm also looking forward to my HK stereo system. I love the LED headlights, but 1500 euros was too much for me, even with leasing! Have fun with it, week by Saturday for my delivery
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| lokaloka (522hp) | Quote: Originally written by Piers. Nice looking engine, you must have most of the option boxes ticked. I almost chose this color, but decided on space gray and oxyster leather for contrast. I'm also looking for an HK stereo system. I love the LED headlights, but 1,500 euros was too much for me, even with leasing! Have fun with it, week by Saturday for my delivery. Yes, I was a little crazy about the options, but the dealer gave me a good discount that “paid for” most of them! This is how I justify it in my head
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| o1234567 (723hp) | Quote: Originally posted by nsa100 Yes, I was a little crazy about the options, but the dealer gave me a good discount that "paid for" most of them! This is how I justify it in my head. Maybe I did a little math with my specification
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| melissa! (766hp) | I just wanted to say that you must have checked almost every option. I would love this spec but just couldn't justify it. But played well. Must be an epic engine...
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| 1denise (827hp) | Beautiful, mine is like the placebo version of you. At least I have the one option you can't have, the xDrive. And some of our US friends will envy the Touring version.
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| feefee1 (386hp) | Great looking F11 with great engine. I like the LCI's LED headlights.
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| 15081988 (626hp) | That's hawt.
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| cmd (141hp) | I'm so glad I chose the Sophisto gray too! Looks fantastic. Nice looking car and wow, great options list!
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| vasanth (367hp) | congratulations!
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| lilj123 (965hp) | Nice. Mega specification.
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| samsung10 (578hp) | Great car – congratulations – what happened to the LCI grill??
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| 23031981 (632hp) | Congratulations, dude. You must be loaded
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| johncena11 (471hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Seattle335 Great car - congrats - what happened to the LCI grill? Looks like a pre-LCI M Performance grille.
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| cassandre (937hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Stormbitch, congratulations dude. You must be loaded. Sold my right arm to pay for it. Thank you for all your great comments
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| 11031992 (44hp) | Congratulations, buddy... Looks really great, although I personally prefer the sedan type. I'll post pictures of my 530d next week... will pick it up on Saturday :-)
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| 123eee (279hp) | Phwoarrr, what madness! You simply don't need or want more car!!
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| jerry12 (318hp) | Congratulations! I wish we could get the F11 here in the US.
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| crockett (314hp) | A very nice F11, nice color and great features, lots of fun
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| hottie15 (725hp) | So I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing about N55s and their connecting rod bearings. I recently bought a N55 car and within a week the bearing went crazy. But the question is why? Everyone always says that the EEC N55 bearings barely spin. This raises the question of why PWG cars fail more frequently. Something needs to be updated, right? And in case anyone has noticed, 2011 cars spin more bearings than any other. Why hasn't anyone addressed this? What has been changed? If the engines are almost the same, why does this happen so rarely with EEG cars? I need answers, people! I've heard that the Vanos camshaft adjuster bolts come loose and cause a low pressure zone due to the new volume created, but is there any proof of this? I heard the newer cars have different screws to fix the problem. But I can't be sure if this is causing the problem. Why does everyone seem to be walking around blindly? If it's such a common problem with the PWG (especially the 2011), then why haven't engineers addressed it? I feel like if I rebuild my engine I'll just spin a different bearing because the engine is a 2011 and is obviously a flawed design.
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| scot (674hp) | Much has already been written on this topic. Based on your post, it seems like you haven't really looked into this matter. There is tons of information and teardown videos. It's the same as claiming that every N63 is doomed, ignoring the fact that the engines receive updates over the years. Different bearings were used in later N55 IIRC models. There was a recall regarding the Vanos screws in the early years of production, so this has now largely been resolved. BMW oil intervals everywhere are stupidly long, which doesn't help, and then there's the way the car is driven by its owner(s). I've never seen anyone combine the fact that the Vanos motor's worm wheel eats away at the teeth of the eccentric shaft, causing metal to pass through the motor and potentially cause damage. However, these are just guesses about what can go wrong. If there is a clear technical problem with the N55 that is causing the bearings to spin, it has been known for a long time. Don't forget that this is a mass-produced product. Considering the total number of cars equipped with the N55, it's only a small percentage that have problems. In addition, it is usually a sporty model, so it probably wasn't mainly grandma who operated the vehicle.
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| casa1234 (644hp) | Quote: Originally posted by B-Buster A lot has been written about this topic, based on your post it seems you haven't really looked into this matter. There is tons of information and teardown videos. It's the same as claiming that every N63 is doomed, ignoring the fact that the engines receive updates over the years. Different bearings were used in later N55 IIRC models. There was a recall regarding the Vanos screws in the early years of production, so this has now largely been resolved. BMW oil intervals everywhere are stupidly long, which doesn't help, and then there's the way the car is driven by its owner(s). I've never seen anyone combine the fact that the Vanos motor's worm wheel eats away at the teeth of the eccentric shaft, causing metal to pass through the motor and potentially cause damage. However, these are just guesses about what can go wrong. If there is a clear technical problem with the N55 that is causing the bearings to spin, it has been known for a long time. Don't forget that this is a mass-produced product. Considering the total number of cars equipped with the N55, it's only a small percentage that have problems. In addition, it is usually a sporty model, so it probably wasn't mainly grandma who operated the vehicle. Every single post I see has people arguing about the information you provided. Some believe it is wrong and others argue it is right. So how am I supposed to get any good information from this when people are just arguing back and forth about information that doesn't seem to have any basis in TSB or anything? I've read a lot about it. Especially after rotating my camp after a week of ownership. And yes, my car belonged to someone who took care of it and changed the oil before the break. So mine wasn't damaged. And almost every N55 owner does connecting rod bearings at some point, right? Anyone who modifies them and wants them to last definitely does. That doesn't seem like a small percentage. Especially when most people pull on them and they end up with scars after 100,000 miles. And one more thing: A large proportion of the failed N55s were SUVs. I don't want to argue about this because others do on this topic too, but treating me like I have no basis for my information isn't going to help either. However, I was pleased with the reaction. I'm hoping my car will get about 50,000 miles left after replacing the bearing.
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| 250375 (973hp) | Quote: Originally posted by LoganN55 Every single post I see has people arguing about the information you provided. Some believe it is wrong and others argue it is right. So how am I supposed to get any good information from this when people are just arguing back and forth about information that doesn't seem to have any basis in TSB or anything? First of all, don't listen to those who argue. Quote: And yes, my car was owned by someone who took care of it and did an oil change before the interval. So mine wasn't damaged. Frequent oil changes will not prevent it from continuing to drive. Keep an eye on the oil temperature gauge and leave it nice and warm before turning on the power. Quote: And almost every N55 owner does connecting rod bearings at some point, right? Is that so? For years, it has been one of the most commonly denied service items for most N55 owners. Of course, except for the enthusiasts who go the extra mile. Most owners don't know that this is the case, many cars are not affected by it. Quote: And something else is that a large proportion of the failed N55 models were SUVs. Source? Actual stats? If you go to the 2 series forum you will find turned bearings, same for 3 series, 5/6/7 series, X3/4/5. Some of these are due to oil pressure not building up after replacing the OFHG, others are due to spirited driving without a clogged oil pan causing the oil pump to run dry, another is due to a faulty cooling system causing the engine to run hot, etc. My conclusion is that What I've been following for years is that there are several reasons why this can happen. Mileage varies from low mileage with turned bearings to early 300,000 N55 models with original bearings. Now you want a definitive answer to what's going wrong. If there was a concrete problem with the N55 killing those you think fail, there would have been a class action lawsuit (and we in the EU would have been fed up anyway). Quote: I don't want to argue about this because others do on this topic too, but treating me like I have no basis for my information isn't going to help either. We can have a discussion based on facts. So far all I've read is frustration and an opinion based on input from what you describe as arguing people, which is not a basis for discussion.
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| scales (438hp) | I never go above 2500 RPM until I know my N55 is nice and warm (close to 250°F). When I start the engine, I always wait until the engine speed drops below 1,000 rpm and settles at around 750-800 rpm before driving off. It's cold here in the Great Basin at the moment and I love my N55. I just want to be careful and take good care of my engine and hope to enjoy it for many, many years to come, like I have over the last 6 months since I got mine
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| asd123123 (303hp) | Quote: Originally written by B-Buster Some of these were caused by oil pressure not building up after replacing the OFHG, others from spirited driving without a clogged oil pan causing the oil pump to run dry, another from a failed cooling system, so the engine ran hot, etc. @B-Buster is right. Failures due to failure to follow the oil pickup procedure following OFHG and other repairs will be documented in a BMW TSB.
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| 130591 (119hp) | So I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing about N55s and their connecting rod bearings. I recently bought a N55 car and within a week the bearing went crazy. But the question is why? Everyone always says that the EEC N55 bearings barely spin. This raises the question of why PWG cars fail more frequently. Something needs to be updated, right? And in case anyone has noticed, 2011 cars spin more bearings than any other. Why hasn't anyone addressed this? What has been changed? If the engines are almost the same, why does this happen so rarely with EEG cars? I need answers, people! I've heard that the Vanos camshaft adjuster bolts come loose and cause a low pressure zone due to the new volume created, but is there any proof of this? I heard the newer cars have different screws to fix the problem. But I can't be sure if this is causing the problem. Why does everyone seem to be walking around blindly? If it's such a common problem with the PWG (especially the 2011), then why haven't engineers addressed it? I feel like if I rebuild my engine I'll just spin a different bearing because the engine is a 2011 and is obviously a flawed design.
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| passerotto (225hp) | Much has already been written on this topic. Based on your post, it seems like you haven't really looked into this matter. There is tons of information and teardown videos. It's the same as claiming that every N63 is doomed, ignoring the fact that the engines receive updates over the years. Different bearings were used in later N55 IIRC models. There was a recall regarding the Vanos screws in the early years of production, so this has now largely been resolved. BMW oil intervals everywhere are stupidly long, which doesn't help, and then there's the way the car is driven by its owner(s). I've never seen anyone combine the fact that the Vanos motor's worm wheel eats away at the teeth of the eccentric shaft, causing metal to pass through the motor and potentially cause damage. However, these are just guesses about what can go wrong. If there is a clear technical problem with the N55 that is causing the bearings to spin, it has been known for a long time. Don't forget that this is a mass-produced product. Considering the total number of cars equipped with the N55, it's only a small percentage that have problems. In addition, it is usually a sporty model, so it probably wasn't mainly grandma who operated the vehicle.
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| ibiza1 (927hp) | Quote: Originally posted by B-Buster A lot has been written about this topic, based on your post it seems you haven't really looked into this matter. There is tons of information and teardown videos. It's the same as claiming that every N63 is doomed, ignoring the fact that the engines receive updates over the years. Different bearings were used in later N55 IIRC models. There was a recall regarding the Vanos screws in the early years of production, so this has now largely been resolved. BMW oil intervals everywhere are stupidly long, which doesn't help, and then there's the way the car is driven by its owner(s). I've never seen anyone combine the fact that the Vanos motor's worm wheel eats away at the teeth of the eccentric shaft, causing metal to pass through the motor and potentially cause damage. However, these are just guesses about what can go wrong. If there is a clear technical problem with the N55 that is causing the bearings to spin, it has been known for a long time. Don't forget that this is a mass-produced product. Considering the total number of cars equipped with the N55, it's only a small percentage that have problems. In addition, it is usually a sporty model, so it probably wasn't mainly grandma who operated the vehicle. Every single post I see has people arguing about the information you provided. Some believe it is wrong and others argue it is right. So how am I supposed to get any good information from this when people are just arguing back and forth about information that doesn't seem to have any basis in TSB or anything? I've read a lot about it. Especially after rotating my camp after a week of ownership. And yes, my car belonged to someone who took care of it and changed the oil before the break. So mine wasn't damaged. And almost every N55 owner does connecting rod bearings at some point, right? Anyone who modifies them and wants them to last definitely does. That doesn't seem like a small percentage. Especially when most people pull on them and they end up with scars after 100,000 miles. And one more thing: A large proportion of the failed N55s were SUVs. I don't want to argue about this because others do on this topic too, but treating me like I have no basis for my information isn't going to help either. However, I was pleased with the reaction. I'm hoping my car will get about 50,000 miles left after replacing the bearing.
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| GreekboyD (543hp) | Quote: Originally posted by LoganN55 Every single post I see has people arguing about the information you provided. Some believe it is wrong and others argue it is right. So how am I supposed to get any good information from this when people are just arguing back and forth about information that doesn't seem to have any basis in TSB or anything? First of all, don't listen to those who argue. Quote: And yes, my car was owned by someone who took care of it and did an oil change before the interval. So mine wasn't damaged. Frequent oil changes will not prevent it from continuing to drive. Keep an eye on the oil temperature gauge and leave it nice and warm before turning on the power. Quote: And almost every N55 owner does connecting rod bearings at some point, right? Is that so? For years, it has been one of the most commonly denied service items for most N55 owners. Of course, except for the enthusiasts who go the extra mile. Most owners don't know that this is the case, many cars are not affected by it. Quote: And something else is that a large proportion of the failed N55 models were SUVs. Source? Actual stats? If you go to the 2 series forum you will find turned bearings, same for 3 series, 5/6/7 series, X3/4/5. Some of these are due to oil pressure not building up after replacing the OFHG, others are due to spirited driving without a clogged oil pan causing the oil pump to run dry, another is due to a faulty cooling system causing the engine to run hot, etc. My conclusion is that What I've been following for years is that there are several reasons why this can happen. Mileage varies from low mileage with turned bearings to early 300,000 N55 models with original bearings. Now you want a definitive answer to what's going wrong. If there was a concrete problem with the N55 killing those you think fail, there would have been a class action lawsuit (and we in the EU would have been fed up anyway). Quote: I don't want to argue about this because others do on this topic too, but treating me like I have no basis for my information isn't going to help either. We can have a discussion based on facts. So far all I've read is frustration and an opinion based on input from what you describe as arguing people, which is not a basis for discussion.
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| angela5 (231hp) | I never go above 2500 RPM until I know my N55 is nice and warm (close to 250°F). When I start the engine, I always wait until the engine speed drops below 1,000 rpm and settles at around 750-800 rpm before driving off. It's cold here in the Great Basin at the moment and I love my N55. I just want to be careful and take good care of my engine and hope to enjoy it for many, many years to come, like I have over the last 6 months since I got mine
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| roslyn (451hp) | Quote: Originally written by B-Buster Some of these were caused by oil pressure not building up after replacing the OFHG, others from spirited driving without a clogged oil pan causing the oil pump to run dry, another from a failed cooling system, so the engine ran hot, etc. @B-Buster is right. Failures due to failure to follow the oil pickup procedure following OFHG and other repairs will be documented in a BMW TSB.
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| 271982 (171hp) | Nice to see them doing that. I work at an independent dealer here in Portland and we had four individual 2011 550s direct from BMW Financial and after about 50,000 miles we had major problems on three out of four within a few days of driving them. They did injectors, pumps and programming, all of nine meters. Luckily we were still under warranty, but that seems pretty bad for a $60,000+ top of the line car to suddenly misfire, go into limp mode and be stuck at the dealer for weeks. I thought we had just gotten a broken unit, but after it happened to two others it was clear it was a BMW problem. It's good that they worked to make things right. I hope they work with people who have sunk thousands into their out-of-warranty N63s to fix theirs too.
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| @gmail.com.mx (577hp) | I feel like these ridiculously long (planet-saving) oil change intervals keep driving BMW crazy!!! Recently they reduced the OCI on another engine (I forgot that one). Anyone who.........the value of this car will drop like a stone!!! I mean, come on, who's going to run out and pick up one of these cars? I just feel bad for the unsuspecting buyers who buy these cars and at the used car lots nearby. I will change my oil every 3,000 to 4,000 miles. Thank you.
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| inhuman (280hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Roadkiller Quote: Originally posted by Ghetto2315 I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but there is an Owner Loyalty Recognition allowance for this N63 bulletin. The N63 Owner Loyalty Recognition Allowance: In addition to the Customer Care Package, we offer another benefit exclusively for owners of these vehicles. Should an owner wish to trade in his/her current N63-equipped vehicle listed above for a new BMW, a special Owner Loyalty Recognition Grant of up to $2,500 is available, available in conjunction with any current sales assistance programs for cash, lease or Financing customers for the purchase of the following new BMWs: 2 Series, 3 Series, 4 Series, X1, X3, X4, Z4, i3 = $1,000 5 Series, X5, Or is it in addition to the normal $1,000 you receive? That would be nice. It is in addition to any other discounts/incentives.
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| 21111989 (649hp) | As already mentioned several times - THIS IS NOT A RECALL. In fact, they don't replace all of these things - they check them and replace them when necessary. So unless there is reason to believe your timing chain is stretched, I don't think anything is being done to your car. So don't expect your dealer to dismantle your engine for no reason. Now for the real news: the battery is now a maintenance item. The battery is replaced every other oil change during your vehicle's warranty period. This applies to the N63 and N63tu and I suspect the S63 variants too. Apparently running the cooling pumps/fans after turning off the car drains the battery over time.
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| Kgare (961hp) | Quote: Originally written by doug_999 As already mentioned several times - THIS IS NOT A RECALL. In fact, they don't replace all of these things - they check them and replace them when necessary. So unless there is reason to believe your timing chain is stretched, I don't think anything is being done to your car. So don't expect your dealer to dismantle your engine for no reason. Now for the real news: the battery is now a maintenance item. The battery is replaced every other oil change during your vehicle's warranty period. This applies to the N63 and N63tu and I suspect the S63 variants too. Apparently running the cooling pumps/fans after turning off the car drains the battery over time. The technician I spoke to told me that some items will definitely be replaced. Some items are tested and only replaced if testing reveals a fault
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| langston (436hp) | Rally BMW here on Long Island was unaware of the N63 customer service package or any recalls related to the N63. I gave the bulletin to the woman and she found it. She told me that they were waiting for the parts from BMW and as soon as they had them the letters would be sent out. I have had my injectors and battery replaced once since 2011. Good luck everyone! Rich
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| earny99 (659hp) | They didn't do any customer support for the N54, they just extended the warranty. It appears that there are many of the same issues with both engines. The N63 problems seem to encourage a more proactive approach
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| 08031977 (387hp) | Our vehicle happened to be at the dealer when this popped up on my phone yesterday. I forwarded this link to the SA and they hadn't even received any official communication from BMW on the matter. There were several customers asking about it, but no documentation from BMW.
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| kitty1234 (774hp) | The N62 engines all suffer from various oil leaks and defective valve stem seals. I suspect that as time goes on and the performance of this N63 increases, the same problems will arise. BUT since the N63s are turbocharged engines, owners will also get all the crappy problems that come from FI like carbon deposits, along with the problems mentioned in this service bulletin (injectors, etc.). I feel terrible for anyone who owns a higher millage N63 out of warranty. Sure, these engines produce great power and are fun to drive, but all that FI technology combined with long OCIs and advanced electronics negates the reliability/longevity of these engines. EDIT: Where the hell was BMW with such a service bulletin for the N54?!?!?!?
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| 13579q (87hp) | Quote: Originally posted by sworks335i Our vehicle happened to be at the dealer when this showed up on my phone yesterday. I forwarded this link to the SA and they hadn't even received any official communication from BMW on the matter. Several customers came asking about it, but no documentation from BMW. Your SA is lying or doesn't know anything. Even I saw the documents and videos sent to all US dealers in December and I'm not even in the US or working for a dealer. They are also all available online to any US-based dealer via their usual SIB system login and have been featured in the monthly December Dealer News, which is also available to all dealer technical staff. Some SAs really shouldn't have their jobs
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| psp71835 (838hp) | I welcome comments and appreciate your advice on the following: My 2010 X6M currently has 125,000 miles on it and has had repeated problems during the extended warranty period. I remember the following was done (there are more things but I don't remember): - Complete software of all modules was renewed - All injectors replaced (low power indicator) - Battery replaced - Turbo cooler - Head unit for Nav - Spark plugs Now I read that this is part of the service bulletin and I'm wondering if my expenses will be reimbursed. Yes, I'll definitely ask, but has anyone here spent money and have you done anything to get a refund? I still love this car and appreciate any experience you can share. Jim
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| silenthill (424hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Sa3064 Now I read that this is part of the service bulletin and I'm wondering if my expenses will be reimbursed. Yes, I'll definitely ask, but has anyone here spent money and have you done anything to get a refund? All parts and work already performed that also occur as part of this service measure will be reimbursed. It's up to the service action. If the payment was made at another merchant, you will need to provide proof of payment. However, these are not included in the service bulletin on your list. - The complete software of all modules has been renewed. - Turbo cooler. - Head unit for Nav. - Spark plugs
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| natanata (2hp) | Quote: Originally posted by E90Fleet All parts and labor already performed that are also covered by this service measure will be reimbursed. It's up to the service action. If the payment was made at another merchant, you will need to provide proof of payment. However, these are not included in the service bulletin on your list. - The complete software of all modules has been renewed. I spoke to my dealer yesterday who contacted their BMW representative and was confirmed that the S63 engine is not currently part of this contract. Seems crazy considering most of the affected items are identical to the N63 and also have problem areas on the X5/6M.
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| ethel (171hp) | I have a 2012 X5M and would expect similar if not better treatment as there are also documented issues. Maybe it's the first time I'm getting rid of a car that I'd actually rather keep. Really disappointing from BMW for 100k truck buyers.
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| Paul C (490hp) | My battery is currently showing a battery discharge indicator. Is this covered by this recall? They told me to come to work in early February and check everything. I don't know if my battery will last that long.
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| p3avbwjw (770hp) | Interesting, battery drain has been happening since last month. (Daily now) Immediately after turning off the engine, my accessories also die. The lights (outside and inside) don't stay on when the alarm is unlocked, etc. A few things have happened recently regarding electronics. The fan speed in both zones does not increase even though the fan is spinning up. That corrected itself. Additionally, the top and rear cameras malfunctioned, although both appear to be working fine. I've already had the injectors and spark plugs replaced once. My 2011 Dinan S3 has now covered about 60,000 miles and drives flawlessly. I am NOT a hard driver. Time for a check-up! I won't let anything pass after reading what BMW says may need attention.
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| dsjoffice123 (809hp) | Quote: Originally written by CJPatel. My battery is currently showing a battery discharge indicator. Does this fall under this recall? They told me to come to work in early February and check everything. I don't know if my battery will last that long. Do you usually only drive short distances? Battery replacement is actually subject to a separate service bulletin SIB 61 30 14, which gives N55, N57, N63T, S63 or N74 engines a new battery every other oil service. (during the warranty period) N63 receives one with every oil service. (during the warranty period) So please ask the dealer to check. Or connect a good charger to the car for a few hours (e.g. Ctek charger) if you regularly drive short distances.
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| kroger (295hp) | Just dropped off my 2012 550i for service. The SA called it a recall, but on the printout it appears as two separate service campaign actions. It looks like they end up reviewing everything on the list and replacing what is necessary. The SA said it could take at least 3 to 4 days. My car is on a lease that will be paid back to them in six months (actually a few weeks since they waived my last six payments), so I suspect they will replace everything. In the meantime they were out of cars so they referred me to Enterprise for a car of the same or higher class as stated in the bulletin. When I came to the Enterprise, they offered me this red thing. Needless to say, I called back and got approval for a 328i. Still not remotely comparable to a 550i, but at least I don't lose any of my daily functionality. I'm 1.80 m tall - really a red beetle?
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| EzequielR (695hp) | Quote: Originally written by E90Fleet Your SA is lying or doesn't know anything. Even I saw the documents and videos sent to all US dealers in December and I'm not even in the US or working for a dealer. They are also all available online to any US-based dealer via their usual SIB system login and have been featured in the monthly December Dealer News, which is also available to all dealer technical staff. Some SAs really shouldn't have their jobs. That was my thought too. I didn't really think BMW would be picky about who received the notice....
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| markie1 (921hp) | Quote: Originally written by E90Fleet Do you usually only drive short distances? Battery replacement is actually subject to a separate service bulletin SIB 61 30 14, which gives N55, N57, N63T, S63 or N74 engines a new battery every other oil service. (during the warranty period) N63 receives one with every oil service. (during the warranty period) So please ask the dealer to check. Or connect a good charger to the car for a few hours (e.g. Ctek charger) if you regularly drive short distances. Great suggestion, but I don't drive short distances, I usually drive very long distances. Ironically, this happened today after I left the BMW dealer (the car was there for 5 days due to unrelated issues). When I left I took the car to another repair shop and they traded me a broken wheel and when I left there I got the first sign. I didn't think anything of it until it continued. I called BMW. They said the reason for this was that it was cold and the battery could go bad. I also called BMWNA and they said if I replace the battery and pay out of pocket they would refund me after the recall is complete. As far as maintenance goes, I've been screwed since I'm no longer in the warranty or maintenance phase. Hopefully it will be addressed as part of the recall considering there is clearly a problem. I actually have a CTEK charger, it's plugged into the Ferrari that's parked at my parents' house for the winter. I'll have to see if I can park the BMW in there and swap out the charger... I'll get back to you when I can.
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| buffie (2hp) | A $50 fuel card should be given as a courtesy after your respective N63 car is registered for this bulletin.
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| luv4life (100hp) | Mine is due to be up and running soon, but so much for the promise of a lender of equal or better quality, as all the press releases indicate. They do NOT have rentals valued at 550 or higher. The best I'll do is get a loaner worth 528. What nonsense.
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| vinod (741hp) | Nice to see them doing that. I work at an independent dealer here in Portland and we had four individual 2011 550s direct from BMW Financial and after about 50,000 miles we had major problems on three out of four within a few days of driving them. They did injectors, pumps and programming, all of nine meters. Luckily we were still under warranty, but that seems pretty bad for a $60,000+ top of the line car to suddenly misfire, go into limp mode and be stuck at the dealer for weeks. I thought we had just gotten a broken unit, but after it happened to two others it was clear it was a BMW problem. It's good that they worked to make things right. I hope they work with people who have sunk thousands into their out-of-warranty N63s to fix theirs too.
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| dudedude1 (693hp) | I feel like these ridiculously long (planet-saving) oil change intervals keep driving BMW crazy!!! Recently they reduced the OCI on another engine (I forgot that one). Anyone who.........the value of this car will drop like a stone!!! I mean, come on, who's going to run out and pick up one of these cars? I just feel bad for the unsuspecting buyers who buy these cars and at the used car lots nearby. I will change my oil every 3,000 to 4,000 miles. Thank you.
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| 191980 (672hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Roadkiller Quote: Originally posted by Ghetto2315 I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but there is an Owner Loyalty Recognition allowance for this N63 bulletin. The N63 Owner Loyalty Recognition Allowance: In addition to the Customer Care Package, we offer another benefit exclusively for owners of these vehicles. Should an owner wish to trade in his/her current N63-equipped vehicle listed above for a new BMW, a special Owner Loyalty Recognition Grant of up to $2,500 is available, available in conjunction with any current sales assistance programs for cash, lease or Financing customers to purchase the following new BMWs: 2 Series, 3 Series, 4 Series, X1, X3, X4, Z4, i3 = $1,000 5 Series, X5, X6 = $1,500 6 Series and 7 Series = $2,500 How is this different from the regular loyalty program? Or is it in addition to the normal $1,000 you receive? That would be nice. It is in addition to any other discounts/incentives.
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| 151176 (958hp) | As already mentioned several times - THIS IS NOT A RECALL. In fact, they don't replace all of these things - they check them and replace them when necessary. So unless there is reason to believe your timing chain is stretched, I don't think anything is being done to your car. So don't expect your dealer to dismantle your engine for no reason. Now for the real news: the battery is now a maintenance item. The battery is replaced every other oil change during your vehicle's warranty period. This applies to the N63 and N63tu and I suspect the S63 variants too. Apparently running the cooling pumps/fans after turning off the car drains the battery over time.
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| aventura1 (788hp) | Quote: Originally written by doug_999 As already mentioned several times - THIS IS NOT A RECALL. In fact, they don't replace all of these things - they check them and replace them when necessary. So unless there is reason to believe your timing chain is stretched, I don't think anything is being done to your car. So don't expect your dealer to dismantle your engine for no reason. Now for the real news: the battery is now a maintenance item. The battery is replaced every other oil change during your vehicle's warranty period. This applies to the N63 and N63tu and I suspect the S63 variants too. Apparently running the cooling pumps/fans after turning off the car drains the battery over time. The technician I spoke to told me that some items will definitely be replaced. Some items are tested and only replaced if testing reveals a fault
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| 123456789789 (911hp) | Rally BMW here on Long Island was unaware of the N63 customer service package or any recalls related to the N63. I gave the bulletin to the woman and she found it. She told me that they were waiting for the parts from BMW and as soon as they had them the letters would be sent out. I have had my injectors and battery replaced once since 2011. Good luck everyone! Rich
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| Alpine300zhp (371hp) | They didn't do any customer support for the N54, they just extended the warranty. It appears that there are many of the same issues with both engines. The N63 problems seem to encourage a more proactive approach
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| 281293 (952hp) | Our vehicle happened to be at the dealer when this popped up on my phone yesterday. I forwarded this link to the SA and they hadn't even received any official communication from BMW on the matter. There were several customers asking about it, but no documentation from BMW.
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| pimp19 (168hp) | The N62 engines all suffer from various oil leaks and defective valve stem seals. I suspect that as time goes on and the performance of this N63 increases, the same problems will arise. BUT since the N63s are turbocharged engines, owners will also get all the crappy problems that come from FI like carbon deposits, along with the problems mentioned in this service bulletin (injectors, etc.). I feel terrible for anyone who owns a higher millage N63 out of warranty. Sure, these engines produce great power and are fun to drive, but all that FI technology combined with long OCIs and advanced electronics negates the reliability/longevity of these engines. EDIT: Where the hell was BMW with such a service bulletin for the N54?!?!?!?
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| makarena (224hp) | Quote: Originally posted by sworks335i Our vehicle happened to be at the dealer when this showed up on my phone yesterday. I forwarded this link to the SA and they hadn't even received any official communication from BMW on the matter. Several customers came asking about it, but no documentation from BMW. Your SA is lying or doesn't know anything. Even I saw the documents and videos sent to all US dealers in December and I'm not even in the US or working for a dealer. They are also all available online to any US-based dealer via their usual SIB system login and have been featured in the monthly December Dealer News, which is also available to all dealer technical staff. Some SAs really shouldn't have their jobs
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