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| poopie12 (278hp) | Quote: Originally written by Carlos528i krautmeister, Where did you go in the car? If you live in Atlanta, PM me
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| sendit (887hp) | Santa Monica BMW has always provided a rental car.
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| 290388 (121hp) | Hello, I'm posting this for my friend since he is so confused about this. He has the 2011 528i and doesn't have HID or Bi-Xenon headlights from the factory (now he does after installing a HID kit) but he is confused about Angel Eyes, they don't light up when you turn the headlights on , they only work when you turn them on. Toggle the button once. So my question is: Can you program them to be on while driving or will it not work anyway since it is not a bixenon light (regular halogen)? Thanks in advance
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| spring01 (172hp) | Quote: Originally posted by belarus27 Hello, I'm posting this for my friend since he is so confused about this. He has the 2011 528i and doesn't have HID or Bi-Xenon headlights from the factory (now he does after installing a HID kit) but he is confused about Angel Eyes, they don't light up when you turn the headlights on , they only work when you turn them on. Toggle the button once. So my question is: Can you program them to be on while driving or will it not work anyway since it is not a bixenon light (regular halogen)? Thank you in advance. Isn't there an option for daytime running lights in iDrive under Settings>Lighting>Daytime running lights???
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| victoria. (97hp) | He had the car fully coded for the lights??
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| charm1 (260hp) | Quote: Originally written by ezaircon4jc Isn't there an option for daytime running lights in iDrive under Settings>,Lighting>,Daytime running lights? From what I understand he was looking for this option but he said he didn't even have it. Could it be because his lights come with halogen from the factory? And I would think that only those with xenon would turn on these angel lights while driving, but I'll check again myself when I get to his car and maybe take a photo.
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| darren123 (902hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SchillerM Did he fully code the car for the lights? He never programmed anything on it, it was purchased about a year ago. Maybe the previous owner did something?
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| shizzle (970hp) | Quote: Originally posted by belarus27, he never programmed anything on it, it was bought like a year ago. Maybe the previous owner did something? I think he needs to have the car coded for the lighting upgrade so everything works properly. I would search the coding section or the Google BMW coding forum for someone local. There are some people who are willing to code for free. Frosted
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| vinny123 (166hp) | If the car was originally equipped with halogens, the angel eyes are very weak compared to the angel eyes of the xenon lamps. Since this is a hardware difference, the problem cannot be solved through programming. Even if you replace the main headlights with HID headlights, the angel eyes will still be the weak angel eyes. The dazzling white angels only have xenons. I hope this answers your question.
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| 090978 (615hp) | In addition, my car is equipped with xenon headlights from the factory, so I will explain to you when they are on. In the idrive light settings...if you activate the daytime running lights option. Then your Angel Eyes are on when the button is in the middle position (i.e. 12 o'clock position) or in the automatic position (10 o'clock position). When the headlights are on, the angel eyes become a little darker, but with coding it is possible to bring them to full brightness. The same applies here: All of this only applies to vehicles that are equipped with xenon ex works.
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| numero10 (524hp) | Quote: Originally written by SchillerM. I think he needs to have the car coded for retrofitting lights so everything works properly. I would search the coding section or the Google BMW coding forum for someone local. There are some people who are willing to code for free. Quote from Matt: Originally written by BMW FOREVER. Just to add: My car has the xenon headlights from the factory, so I'll explain when they are on. In the idrive light settings...if you activate the daytime running lights option. Then your Angel Eyes are on when the button is in the middle position (i.e. 12 o'clock position) or in the automatic position (10 o'clock position). When the headlights are on, the angel eyes become a little darker, but with coding it is possible to bring them to full brightness. The same applies here: All of this only applies to vehicles with xenon ex works. Yes, that's what I thought, it must be xenon so it's bright and stays on while driving. Because they work, but they are very dark and only when you turn them on by yourself, without dipped headlights. So I don't think coding will help him, but I'll let him know. And unfortunately it doesn't have an option for angel lights to appear in iDrive. It looks like it's because it doesn't have HID/Xenon headlights from the factory, just halogen. That's what I told him (I kind of know this because I've had E39 and E60 Bimmers), so there's no real way to code them to turn on with his current hidden kit he has installed. Everything depends on the headlights themselves. Thanks guys.
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| monster99 (290hp) | Sorry, I misunderstood, I assumed he installed factory HID/Xenon headlights and not an aftermarket HID kit in his base headlights.
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| ilovegreg (882hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SchillerM Sorry, I misunderstood, I assumed he installed factory HID/Xenon headlights in his base headlights, not an aftermarket HID kit. No problem. I guess I'm the one who can't explain it well anyway lol, thanks
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| 02041981 (112hp) | Hello, I'm posting this for my friend since he is so confused about this. He has the 2011 528i and doesn't have HID or Bi-Xenon headlights from the factory (now he does after installing a HID kit) but he is confused about Angel Eyes, they don't light up when you turn the headlights on , they only work when you turn them on. Toggle the button once. So my question is: Can you program them to be on while driving or will it not work anyway since it is not a bixenon light (regular halogen)? Thanks in advance
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| star02 (514hp) | Quote: Originally posted by belarus27 Hello, I'm posting this for my friend since he is so confused about this. He has the 2011 528i and doesn't have HID or Bi-Xenon headlights from the factory (now he does after installing a HID kit) but he is confused about Angel Eyes, they don't light up when you turn the headlights on , they only work when you turn them on. Toggle the button once. So my question is: Can you program them to be on while driving or will it not work anyway since it is not a bixenon light (regular halogen)? Thank you in advance. Isn't there an option for daytime running lights in iDrive under Settings>Lighting>Daytime running lights???
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| nygiants (649hp) | He had the car fully coded for the lights??
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| stroppygoblin (81hp) | Quote: Originally written by ezaircon4jc Isn't there an option for daytime running lights in iDrive under Settings>,Lighting>,Daytime running lights? From what I understand he was looking for this option but he said he didn't even have it. Could it be because his lights come with halogen from the factory? And I would think that only those with xenon would turn on these angel lights while driving, but I'll check again myself when I get to his car and maybe take a photo.
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| Stinkyxy (331hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SchillerM Did he fully code the car for the lights? He never programmed anything on it, it was purchased about a year ago. Maybe the previous owner did something?
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| tvd75 (417hp) | Quote: Originally posted by belarus27, he never programmed anything on it, it was bought like a year ago. Maybe the previous owner did something? I think he needs to have the car coded for the lighting upgrade so everything works properly. I would search the coding section or the Google BMW coding forum for someone local. There are some people who are willing to code for free. Frosted
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| honeycomb (130hp) | If the car was originally equipped with halogens, the angel eyes are very weak compared to the angel eyes of the xenon lamps. Since this is a hardware difference, the problem cannot be solved through programming. Even if you replace the main headlights with HID headlights, the angel eyes will still be the weak angel eyes. The dazzling white angels only have xenons. I hope this answers your question.
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| 090985 (114hp) | In addition, my car is equipped with xenon headlights from the factory, so I will explain to you when they are on. In the idrive light settings...if you activate the daytime running lights option. Then your Angel Eyes are on when the button is in the middle position (i.e. 12 o'clock position) or in the automatic position (10 o'clock position). When the headlights are on, the angel eyes become a little darker, but with coding it is possible to bring them to full brightness. The same applies here: All of this only applies to vehicles that are equipped with xenon ex works.
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| jason15 (672hp) | Quote: Originally written by SchillerM. I think he needs to have the car coded for retrofitting lights so everything works properly. I would search the coding section or the Google BMW coding forum for someone local. There are some people who are willing to code for free. Quote from Matt: Originally written by BMW FOREVER. Just to add: My car has the xenon headlights from the factory, so I'll explain when they are on. In the idrive light settings...if you activate the daytime running lights option. Then your Angel Eyes are on when the button is in the middle position (i.e. 12 o'clock position) or in the automatic position (10 o'clock position). When the headlights are on, the angel eyes become a little darker, but with coding it is possible to bring them to full brightness. The same applies here: All of this only applies to vehicles with xenon ex works. Yes, that's what I thought, it must be xenon so it's bright and stays on while driving. Because they work, but they are very dark and only when you turn them on by yourself, without dipped headlights. So I don't think coding will help him, but I'll let him know. And unfortunately it doesn't have an option for angel lights to appear in iDrive. It looks like it's because it doesn't have HID/Xenon headlights from the factory, just halogen. That's what I told him (I kind of know this because I've had E39 and E60 Bimmers), so there's no real way to code them to turn on with his current hidden kit he has installed. Everything depends on the headlights themselves. Thanks guys.
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| cola123 (54hp) | Sorry, I misunderstood, I assumed he installed factory HID/Xenon headlights and not an aftermarket HID kit in his base headlights.
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| nails1 (952hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SchillerM Sorry, I misunderstood, I assumed he installed factory HID/Xenon headlights in his base headlights, not an aftermarket HID kit. No problem. I guess I'm the one who can't explain it well anyway lol, thanks
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| sound1 (374hp) | Sorry for the late intro, I'm Derek and I've been a lurker for a while. After buying my wife the first BMW we ever owned, a 16 328xi/Lighting/Nav, about four months ago, I caught the bug. I privately sold my 12 VW GLI 6MT (Bolt-Ons, APR STG 2 v2.0) and started looking for an F10. I focused on a 14-15 550xi for a while after driving one and was blown away by the early power availability. At a dealer in Northern New Jersey I found a fully loaded 16 550xi demo model with all options except rear entertainment for a crazy deal, essentially 90k with 6k demo miles. In the time it took me to call my wife, talk to her about it for 30 minutes, and call the dealer back, the car was sold...just like that!! That kind of sucked, so I broadened my search and added a 535xi that fit what I was looking for. I finally found a Glacier Silver 535xi with luxury seats in Cape Cod! I immediately put down a deposit, signed the papers while my family and I were on a Disney vacation, and when we got back I flew up to pick up the car and drive it back and I've been in love ever since!!! The car features: Black Nappa Leather/Cold Weather/Luxury/Premium/Ceramic Controls/Sun Visors/Soft Close Doors/Harman Kardon
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| BMW-GT (646hp) | Congratulations, have fun. I bet you'll love it even more as time goes on.
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| yomama123 (293hp) | Congratulations on a beautiful F10!
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| 200394 (822hp) | This is too funny, let me just say you're lucky I chose a dark car! Actually, I almost bought this exact car, but in the end I decided on the Space Gray/Mocha demo car that they had at the Cape dealer. I was very close, but I waited too long because I wasn't sure if I wanted silver again. The sales representative made it clear that if I waited you would get it. There were some great deals on demo cars there, right? But congrats on the purchase, I'm glad I didn't steal this one from you, it's a great car!
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| 198319 (467hp) | Welcome!
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| 041290 (481hp) | congratulations
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| digitalnoah (261hp) | Congratulations. I've had my 535 for just over 6 months and still enjoy driving it. Great car
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| garnett (786hp) | Congratulations! Nice car and welcome to the forum.
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| 110299 (656hp) | Welcome! Any changes to the plan? (PS: Remove the ugly orange page markers ASAP)
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| cock12 (335hp) | Quote: Originally posted by thebmwjunkiee This is too funny. I just want to say you're lucky I chose a dark car! Actually, I almost bought this exact car, but in the end I decided on the Space Gray/Mocha demo car that they had at the Cape dealer. I was very close, but I waited too long because I wasn't sure if I wanted silver again. The sales representative made it clear that if I waited you would get it. There were some great deals on demo cars there, right? But congrats on the purchase, I'm glad I didn't steal this one from you, it's a great car! This is hilarious because I was thinking about calling back about the 535d!! Their demo deals were absolutely insane. If you had bought this you probably would have gotten the Mineral Gray 535 with lighting that they had. The car stayed parked there for a while until we figured out how to get it to me. I told my SA that if you are in the same position as the G30, we could do the same.
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| Raymond (962hp) | Thanks guys! As far as mods go, the JB4 or BMS Stage 1 is stuck in my head, but I don't think I want to do any exhaust mods. I'll most likely fit a few PS2s at the OEMs next summer, remove the badging and perhaps upgraded roll and intake protection. These runflat characteristics are really unsettling when driving over bumpy roads at highway speeds. So far I'm just enjoying how quiet and smooth the car is, and when I want to have a little fun I tighten the upholstery, open the windows a little and put it in Sport mode!
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| philaroo (296hp) | Congratulations on the new car. Looks great. Hopefully they have provided you with the missing rear wheel hub cap.
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| year2008 (135hp) | Congratulations and have fun, great car! I also just got a 2016 535i xdrive demo... I had my dealer's CPO as part of the negotiations. There are currently extreme offers for F'10.
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| NICONEX (407hp) | Quote: Originally written by TTG. Congratulations on the new car. Looks great. Hopefully they have provided you with the missing rear wheel hub cap. Thanks! Yes, they replaced the center cap. I was told that some kids were going around stealing them from all the cars in their parking lot...that sucks.
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| blowme (432hp) | Quote: Originally written by SilverRevlis. This is hilarious because I was thinking about calling back about the 535d!! Their demo deals were absolutely insane. If you had bought this you probably would have gotten the Mineral Gray 535 with lighting that they had. The car stayed parked there for a while until we figured out how to get it to me. I told my SA that if you are in the same position as the G30, we could do the same. Yes, the mineral gray was very nice too, but the one I swapped was that color and I wanted a switch. I also had the silver so I chose space gray! Plus it's my first diesel so I wanted to see how they work. But the offers were just too good to pass up. I'm glad we both got the cars we wanted because the 5 Series sold like crazy at this dealer. They care about getting cars with great options (lots of MSports, etc.). I'll definitely go back in three years to see what kind of deal I can get on the G30. It should be almost ready for the LCI version
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| tits69 (678hp) | congratulations!
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| ipodtouch1 (504hp) | Sorry for the late intro, I'm Derek and I've been a lurker for a while. After buying my wife the first BMW we ever owned, a 16 328xi/Lighting/Nav, about four months ago, I caught the bug. I privately sold my 12 VW GLI 6MT (Bolt-Ons, APR STG 2 v2.0) and started looking for an F10. I focused on a 14-15 550xi for a while after driving one and was blown away by the early power availability. At a dealer in Northern New Jersey I found a fully loaded 16 550xi demo model with all options except rear entertainment for a crazy deal, essentially 90k with 6k demo miles. In the time it took me to call my wife, talk to her about it for 30 minutes, and call the dealer back, the car was sold...just like that!! That kind of sucked, so I broadened my search and added a 535xi that fit what I was looking for. I finally found a Glacier Silver 535xi with luxury seats in Cape Cod! I immediately put down a deposit, signed the papers while my family and I were on a Disney vacation, and when we got back I flew up to pick up the car and drive it back and I've been in love ever since!!! The car features: Black Nappa Leather/Cold Weather/Luxury/Premium/Ceramic Controls/Sun Visors/Soft Close Doors/Harman Kardon
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| 131288 (330hp) | Congratulations, have fun. I bet you'll love it even more as time goes on.
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| simplegirl (442hp) | Congratulations on a beautiful F10!
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| izzy123 (425hp) | This is too funny, let me just say you're lucky I chose a dark car! Actually, I almost bought this exact car, but in the end I decided on the Space Gray/Mocha demo car that they had at the Cape dealer. I was very close, but I waited too long because I wasn't sure if I wanted silver again. The sales representative made it clear that if I waited you would get it. There were some great deals on demo cars there, right? But congrats on the purchase, I'm glad I didn't steal this one from you, it's a great car!
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| 02091981 (690hp) | Welcome!
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| 091087 (620hp) | congratulations
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| pumpkin3 (975hp) | Congratulations. I've had my 535 for just over 6 months and still enjoy driving it. Great car
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| 100482 (390hp) | Congratulations! Nice car and welcome to the forum.
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| august6 (724hp) | Welcome! Any changes to the plan? (PS: Remove the ugly orange page markers ASAP)
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| 123kdd (670hp) | Quote: Originally posted by thebmwjunkiee This is too funny. I just want to say you're lucky I chose a dark car! Actually, I almost bought this exact car, but in the end I decided on the Space Gray/Mocha demo car that they had at the Cape dealer. I was very close, but I waited too long because I wasn't sure if I wanted silver again. The sales representative made it clear that if I waited you would get it. There were some great deals on demo cars there, right? But congrats on the purchase, I'm glad I didn't steal this one from you, it's a great car! This is hilarious because I was thinking about calling back about the 535d!! Their demo deals were absolutely insane. If you had bought this you probably would have gotten the Mineral Gray 535 with lighting that they had. The car stayed parked there for a while until we figured out how to get it to me. I told my SA that if you are in the same position as the G30, we could do the same.
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| run2yoo (268hp) | Thanks guys! As far as mods go, the JB4 or BMS Stage 1 is stuck in my head, but I don't think I want to do any exhaust mods. I'll most likely fit a few PS2s at the OEMs next summer, remove the badging and perhaps upgraded roll and intake protection. These runflat characteristics are really unsettling when driving over bumpy roads at highway speeds. So far I'm just enjoying how quiet and smooth the car is, and when I want to have a little fun I tighten the upholstery, open the windows a little and put it in Sport mode!
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| 0666 (105hp) | Congratulations on the new car. Looks great. Hopefully they have provided you with the missing rear wheel hub cap.
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| sweettea (190hp) | Congratulations and have fun, great car! I also just got a 2016 535i xdrive demo... I had my dealer's CPO as part of the negotiations. There are currently extreme offers for F'10.
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| swiss (838hp) | Quote: Originally written by TTG. Congratulations on the new car. Looks great. Hopefully they have provided you with the missing rear wheel hub cap. Thanks! Yes, they replaced the center cap. I was told that some kids were going around stealing them from all the cars in their parking lot...that sucks.
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| anne123 (288hp) | Quote: Originally written by SilverRevlis. This is hilarious because I was thinking about calling back about the 535d!! Their demo deals were absolutely insane. If you had bought this you probably would have gotten the Mineral Gray 535 with lighting that they had. The car stayed parked there for a while until we figured out how to get it to me. I told my SA that if you are in the same position as the G30, we could do the same. Yes, the mineral gray was very nice too, but the one I swapped was that color and I wanted a switch. I also had the silver so I chose space gray! Plus it's my first diesel so I wanted to see how they work. But the offers were just too good to pass up. I'm glad we both got the cars we wanted because the 5 Series sold like crazy at this dealer. They care about getting cars with great options (lots of MSports, etc.). I'll definitely go back in three years to see what kind of deal I can get on the G30. It should be almost ready for the LCI version
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| peggysue (343hp) | congratulations!
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| nicole77 (699hp) | http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-acceleration/ Nice gap to fill until the new M5 comes out. I'm surprised there wasn't an M650i made. What do you all mean? Worth buying??
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| 151275 (610hp) | Tier!
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| furniture1 (188hp) | Man, BMW needs to bring the M550d Touring to the States... but yeah, I would totally understand that!
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| SDC (115hp) | Quote: Originally posted by xxpanipuri Man, BMW needs to bring the M550d Touring to the States...but yeah, I would totally understand that! Man, I totally agree. I'm not sure I'm a diesel guy (never had one... not against one), but I would LOVE an M550i/d Wagon/Touring - whatever you want to call it. It may sound silly, but I like the look of BMW station wagons. What I don't understand: Assuming the 5 Series wagon is available in other markets, is it really such a big deal to make it available in the US market? Maybe even make it an order-only item, since retailers aren't required to keep it in stock. Saves you the problem of it being a low volume item and still makes it available to those who want it.
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| phattbam (367hp) | Quote: Originally written by TreyWaters Man, I totally agree. I'm not sure I'm a diesel guy (never had one... not against one), but I would LOVE an M550i/d Wagon/Touring - whatever you want to call it. It may sound silly, but I like the look of BMW station wagons. What I don't understand: Assuming the 5 Series wagon is available in other markets, is it really such a big deal to make it available in the US market? Maybe even make it an order-only item, since retailers aren't required to keep it in stock. Saves you the problem of it being a low volume item and still makes it available to those who want it. There are not enough buyers to pass all the required crash tests. I read that less than 10,000 E61 Touring models were built in 5 years. But I agree, I would love a 550i/d touring. Frosted
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| broncos07 (784hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 1LegitM235i http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-acceleration/ Nice gap to fill until the new M5 comes out. I'm surprised there wasn't an M650i made. What do you all mean? Is it worth buying? Apparently the 6 Series will be discontinued soon
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| 080874 (124hp) | Quote: Originally written by TreyWaters Man, I totally agree. I'm not sure I'm a diesel guy (never had one... not against one), but I would LOVE an M550i/d Wagon/Touring - whatever you want to call it. It may sound silly, but I like the look of BMW station wagons. What I don't understand: Assuming the 5 Series wagon is available in other markets, is it really such a big deal to make it available in the US market? Maybe even make it an order-only item, since retailers aren't required to keep it in stock. Saves you the problem of it being a low volume item and still makes it available to those who want it. I also love the look of station wagons and I love unassuming cars that are fast! The M550d Touring meets all of these criteria. And since it's a diesel, you can get great MPG compared to a 550i! and that diesel torque...damn! Win/Win/Win if you ask me....
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| scott7 (237hp) | Quote: Originally written by SchillerM. There are not enough buyers to pass all the required crash tests. I read that less than 10,000 E61 Touring models were built in 5 years. Ah, good point. I just thought it should be somehow different from the sedan in terms of powertrain and emissions. But with a different body you would need the crash test data. I didn't think about this aspect.
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| lori (792hp) | Quote: Originally written by SchillerM. There are not enough buyers to pass all the required crash tests. I read that less than 10,000 E61 Touring models were built in 5 years. But I agree, I would like a 550i/d touring. Matt Volvo MB BMW Audi Subaru VW has either 1-3 station wagons that they sell.
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| nathan07 (558hp) | Quote: Originally posted by xxpanipuri Win/Win/Win if you ask me... Until you have to listen to it!
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| matthew08 (824hp) | http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-acceleration/ Nice gap to fill until the new M5 comes out. I'm surprised there wasn't an M650i made. What do you all mean? Worth buying??
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| intouch (16hp) | Tier!
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| furious1 (721hp) | Man, BMW needs to bring the M550d Touring to the States... but yeah, I would totally understand that!
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| june11 (580hp) | Quote: Originally posted by xxpanipuri Man, BMW needs to bring the M550d Touring to the States...but yeah, I would totally understand that! Man, I totally agree. I'm not sure I'm a diesel guy (never had one... not against one), but I would LOVE an M550i/d Wagon/Touring - whatever you want to call it. It may sound silly, but I like the look of BMW station wagons. What I don't understand: Assuming the 5 Series wagon is available in other markets, is it really such a big deal to make it available in the US market? Maybe even make it an order-only item, since retailers aren't required to keep it in stock. Saves you the problem of it being a low volume item and still makes it available to those who want it.
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| mokk76 (642hp) | Quote: Originally written by TreyWaters Man, I totally agree. I'm not sure I'm a diesel guy (never had one... not against one), but I would LOVE an M550i/d Wagon/Touring - whatever you want to call it. It may sound silly, but I like the look of BMW station wagons. What I don't understand: Assuming the 5 Series wagon is available in other markets, is it really such a big deal to make it available in the US market? Maybe even make it an order-only item, since retailers aren't required to keep it in stock. Saves you the problem of it being a low volume item and still makes it available to those who want it. There are not enough buyers to pass all the required crash tests. I read that less than 10,000 E61 Touring models were built in 5 years. But I agree, I would love a 550i/d touring. Frosted
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| rf (453hp) | Quote: Originally posted by 1LegitM235i http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-acceleration/ Nice gap to fill until the new M5 comes out. I'm surprised there wasn't an M650i made. What do you all mean? Is it worth buying? Apparently the 6 Series will be discontinued soon
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| pompino (43hp) | Quote: Originally written by TreyWaters Man, I totally agree. I'm not sure I'm a diesel guy (never had one... not against one), but I would LOVE an M550i/d Wagon/Touring - whatever you want to call it. It may sound silly, but I like the look of BMW station wagons. What I don't understand: Assuming the 5 Series wagon is available in other markets, is it really such a big deal to make it available in the US market? Maybe even make it an order-only item, since retailers aren't required to keep it in stock. Saves you the problem of it being a low volume item and still makes it available to those who want it. I also love the look of station wagons and I love unassuming cars that are fast! The M550d Touring meets all of these criteria. And since it's a diesel, you can get great MPG compared to a 550i! and that diesel torque...damn! Win/Win/Win if you ask me....
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| atkins (252hp) | Quote: Originally written by SchillerM. There are not enough buyers to pass all the required crash tests. I read that less than 10,000 E61 Touring models were made in 5 years. Ah, good point. I just thought it should be somehow different from the sedan in terms of powertrain and emissions. But with a different body you would need the crash test data. I didn't think about this aspect.
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| fuckyou90 (456hp) | Quote: Originally written by SchillerM. There are not enough buyers to pass all the required crash tests. I read that less than 10,000 E61 Touring models were made in 5 years. But I agree, I would like a 550i/d touring. Matt Volvo MB BMW Audi Subaru VW has either 1-3 station wagons that they sell.
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| wolfdog (30hp) | Quote: Originally posted by xxpanipuri Win/Win/Win if you ask me... Until you have to listen to it!
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| 22121979 (814hp) | So I'm not sure if this is wastegate chatter or not, but just a poll for the N63 owners out there: Is metallic chatter on cold start normal? It disappears once the engine reaches the correct temperature.
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| 120909 (372hp) | After disengaging the starter, you will hear a rattling sound for one to two seconds during cold start. Doesn't work if I park the car for, say, an hour or less. Could be oil pumps, dry lifters, waste gates or an exhaust tip valve.
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| CyclePath (532hp) | Yes, that's the noise. It must be the starter.
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| 24051986 (195hp) | Quote: Originally written by krautmeister Yes, that's the noise. It must be the starter. It's not the starter. The dealer replaced my engine because it made a high-pitched screeching sound when it started. The original rattle we're talking about didn't fix that.
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| shitbag (167hp) | Oh, so we have the exact same noise but no resolution? I'm now wondering if it's actually the wastegate. I watched the videos on YouTube but mostly all I found was N54 noise.
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| kocka (531hp) | Lol. I actually had both turbos replaced for other reasons, but the noise is still there. It must have something to do with the oil. Because as soon as you start and stop the engine, the rattling will disappear when you start it again immediately. The noise returns if you leave it off for a while. Somehow oil is running back from the pump or the chain tensioner. I'm not an engineer, but every engine has the same concept. The rattling sound of the wastegate can be heard every time you start it. Even the service foreman is at a loss for a solution. They had to compare another N63 that was on the lot and also had the same noise. When I got a 535 as a loaner car, the car started so smoothly and quietly that I wanted to trade in my car for an N55. But the N63's acceleration performance is holding me back. Sigh!!
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| 080190 (209hp) | I don't mind if it's an inherent feature of N63, as long as it's not a sign that something more serious is in the works. Someone has to know the noise. Anyone else have the exact same chatter? I'll try to record a video when I get home on Friday. If all people have the same noise, I'll attribute it to N63 eccentricity, but if it's just a few, maybe it's a series problem?
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| 14121993 (937hp) | This sometimes happens with my car too, especially when it's cold outside. I was told that the starter motor sucks. I took my car in for service, they couldn't reproduce the problem, but the service advisor told me that they were having problems with the starter motors getting stuck.
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| pasta1 (933hp) | So I'm not sure if this is wastegate chatter or not, but just a poll for the N63 owners out there: Is metallic chatter on cold start normal? It disappears once the engine reaches the correct temperature.
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| vladka (340hp) | After disengaging the starter, you will hear a rattling sound for one to two seconds during cold start. Doesn't work if I park the car for, say, an hour or less. Could be oil pumps, dry lifters, wastegate or an exhaust tip valve.
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| Will Pwr (536hp) | Yes, that's the noise. It must be the starter.
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| maitrimk (897hp) | Quote: Originally written by krautmeister Yes, that's the noise. It must be the starter. It's not the starter. The dealer replaced my engine because it made a high-pitched screeching sound when it started. The original rattle we're talking about didn't fix that.
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| eskimo1 (457hp) | Oh, so we have the exact same noise but no resolution? I'm now wondering if it's actually the wastegate. I watched the videos on YouTube but mostly all I found was N54 noise.
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| philosophy (454hp) | Lol. I actually had both turbos replaced for other reasons, but the noise is still there. It must have something to do with the oil. Because as soon as you start the engine and stop it again, the rattling will disappear when you start it again straight away. The noise returns if you leave it off for a while. Somehow oil is running back from the pump or the chain tensioner. I'm not an engineer, but every engine has the same concept. The rattling sound of the wastegate can be heard every time you start it. Even the service foreman is at a loss for a solution. They had to compare another N63 that was on the lot and also had the same noise. When I got a 535 as a loaner car, the car started so smoothly and quietly that I wanted to trade in my car for an N55. But the N63's acceleration performance is holding me back. Sigh!!
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| karina10 (541hp) | I don't mind if it's an inherent feature of N63, as long as it's not a sign that something more serious is in the works. Someone has to know the noise. Anyone else have the exact same chatter? I'll try to record a video when I get home on Friday. If all people have the same noise, I'll attribute it to N63 eccentricity, but if it's just a few, maybe it's a series problem?
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| raptor660 (886hp) | This sometimes happens with my car too, especially when it's cold outside. I was told that the starter motor sucks. I took my car in for service, they couldn't reproduce the problem, but the service advisor told me that they were having problems with the starter motors getting stuck.
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| cchase (778hp) | I hope everyone is doing well. I have been constantly looking for an F10 and just recently came across this white 535i If we could narrow everything down for this one, here is the link http://aclassautos.com/mobile/Vehicl...d-e940cb35ab2c
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| 1366 (345hp) | Non-mobile link for anyone who doesn't have a phone. http://aclassautos.com/2011-BMW-5Ser...9/Details.aspx Seems incredibly cheap! About $7.5k-$10k less than I would expect... A few quick things, what's going on with the lower trunk color? Not a real M-Sport, but at least it seems to be a sport. When I was looking for a car, I saw a few websites in New York that had prices that were too good to be true. Most required a deposit which was not disclosed in advance...Matt
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| SAMW98SO (519hp) | OK, there are only a few local private dealers in New York and New Jersey that sell super cheap cars. Typically this is an accident and a rebuilt title. I bet if you pull the Carfax it will report an accident. If Carfax comes clean. I would seriously have a trustworthy shop take a look at it. Edit: Also, most of these dealers are very shady and have bad reviews. Just do a simple search on their history. Avoid it, save up and buy something more reputable. Check out the CL ad: You must have a credit score of 780+ to qualify for the ad rate.
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| sandoval1 (838hp) | If the CarFax remains clean, check the AutoCheck. We ended up getting burned by CarMax on a VW because they claimed the CarFax was clean when we found out months later that the car was in an accident before CarMax sold it. As others have said, the small car dealerships always make me feel uneasy, and they usually don't pay fees or lure cars to sell until the last minute. I would look for cars that are at least at one brand dealer (Chevrolet, Audi, Honda, etc.)..)
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| cooper23 (749hp) | Why don't the headlight washer doors sit flush? The paint on the wheels looks strange... Old Plasti-Dip? It looks like it was a base 5X with some changes made to it. They seem to be purchasing higher end cars...6 Series and Caddy in the background. Their location also looks pretty unstable...
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| 28081980 (725hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezaircon4jc Why don't the headlight washer doors sit flush? The paint on the wheels looks strange... Old Plasti-Dip? It looks like it was a base 5X with some changes made to it. They seem to be purchasing higher end cars...6 Series and Caddy in the background. Their situation also seems pretty volatile...Lots of obviously low quality modifications, wouldn't surprise me if there was an accident. But I've never been one to trust small brand retailers. I would much rather have them know all the details and be there if something goes wrong. The F10 market is currently very cheap, BMW dealers are currently giving these away with the upcoming G30.
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| 231291 (17hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezaircon4jc Why don't the headlight washer doors sit flush? The paint on the wheels looks strange... Old Plasti-Dip? It looks like it was a base 5X with some changes made to it. They seem to be purchasing higher end cars...6 Series and Caddy in the background. Its location looks pretty inconsistent too... It's an aftermarket front bumper from MSport. My car has the same thing, it is not OEM fit and finish. I forget the brand, but the original owner got it from a forum provider/sponsor that everyone likes. I'm not saying he should get involved in this, but note that this alone isn't the end of the world. Frosted
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| 23021992 (294hp) | Wow. See you great, I also found this https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6613/overview/
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| 31071982 (916hp) | Quote: Originally written by Hatem3 Wow. See you great, I found that too Https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6613/overview/ And it gets worse. The previous owner clearly didn't care that the car was fitted with the wannabe M5 front bumper that doesn't fit nearly right and then adorned it with an M5 emblem on the grill! Since this car was built in June 2010, it lacks the important combox system, so you'll be sorely lacking on the technology front if it's not upgraded. I would keep looking.
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| Rick Hunter (195hp) | Thanks, I'll skip that
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| palangga (116hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Hatem3 Thanks, I'll skip that. And it's RWD. It's snowing in New Jersey. I'm looking for xdrive.
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| 160194 (33hp) | Quote: Originally posted by vpatel867 OK, there are only a few local private dealers in New York and New Jersey that sell super cheap cars. Typically this is an accident and a rebuilt title. I bet if you pull the Carfax it will report an accident. If Carfax comes clean. I would seriously have a trustworthy shop take a look at it. Edit: Also, most of these dealers are very shady and have bad reviews. Just do a simple search on their history. Avoid it, save up and buy something more reputable. Check out the CL ad: You must have a credit score of 780+ to qualify for the ad rate. If we cannot approve you, the car is free. But seriously, buying a car with this mileage (the second one you posted has 90,000) is a big risk, especially since it comes from a dealer that doesn't specialize in BMW cars. Also, the Craigslist ad says you need a score of 780 and the price doesn't even include a 15-30% deposit. These appear to be the typical shady dealers who target people looking for a nice ride at a cheap price. With all the fees and hidden costs (plus the rate you get approved for) this 17k car will be well into the mid to high 20s
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| iloveweed (705hp) | Quote: Originally posted by thebmwjunkiee If we can't give you a permit, the car is free. But seriously, buying a car with that mileage (the second one you posted has 90,000) is a big risk, especially since it's from a dealer that doesn't specialize in BMW vehicles. Also, the Craigslist ad says you need a score of 780 and the price doesn't even include a 15-30% deposit. These appear to be the typical shady dealers who target people looking for a nice ride at a cheap price. With all the fees and hidden costs (plus the rate you get approved for) this 17k car will be well into the mid to high 20s. Yes. As SilverRevlis said, look at Honda, AUDI and other car dealers. You will experience good and bad things before you buy the car. You can browse Vin history and get the details. You pay more, but get a good car. You can always negotiate. Don't give your money to these dirty little private traders. They are looking for people and will do anything to get you a car.
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| ph0enix (318hp) | I hope everyone is doing well. I have been constantly looking for an F10 and just recently came across this white 535i If we could narrow everything down for this one, here is the link http://aclassautos.com/mobile/Vehicl...d-e940cb35ab2c
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| herrera1 (292hp) | Non-mobile link for anyone who doesn't have a phone. http://aclassautos.com/2011-BMW-5Ser...9/Details.aspx Seems incredibly cheap! About $7.5k-$10k less than I would expect... A few quick things, what's going on with the lower trunk color? Not a real M-Sport, but at least it seems to be a sport. When I was looking for a car, I saw a few websites in New York that had prices that were too good to be true. Most required a deposit which was not disclosed in advance...Matt
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| 123a (799hp) | OK, there are only a few local private dealers in New York and New Jersey that sell super cheap cars. Typically this is an accident and a rebuilt title. I bet if you pull the Carfax it will report an accident. If Carfax comes clean. I would seriously have a trustworthy shop take a look at it. Edit: Also, most of these dealers are very shady and have bad reviews. Just do a simple search on their history. Avoid it, save up and buy something more reputable. Check out the CL ad: You must have a credit score of 780+ to qualify for the ad rate.
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| cowboys01 (556hp) | If the CarFax remains clean, check the AutoCheck. We ended up getting burned by CarMax on a VW because they claimed the CarFax was clean when we found out months later that the car was in an accident before CarMax sold it. As others have said, the small car dealerships always make me feel uneasy, and they usually don't pay fees or lure cars to sell until the last minute. I would look for cars that are at least at one brand dealer (Chevrolet, Audi, Honda, etc.)..)
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| hannah11 (139hp) | Why don't the headlight washer doors sit flush? The paint on the wheels looks strange... Old Plasti-Dip? It looks like it was a base 5X with some changes made to it. They seem to be purchasing higher end cars...6 Series and Caddy in the background. Their location also looks pretty unstable...
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| 303303 (791hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezaircon4jc Why don't the headlight washer doors sit flush? The paint on the wheels looks strange... Old Plasti-Dip? It looks like it was a base 5X with some changes made to it. They seem to be purchasing higher end cars...6 Series and Caddy in the background. Their situation also seems pretty volatile...Lots of obviously low quality modifications, wouldn't surprise me if there was an accident. But I've never been one to trust small brand retailers. I would much rather have them know all the details and be there if something goes wrong. The F10 market is currently very cheap, BMW dealers are currently giving these away with the upcoming G30.
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| 241992 (462hp) | Quote: Originally posted by ezaircon4jc Why don't the headlight washer doors sit flush? The paint on the wheels looks strange... Old Plasti-Dip? It looks like it was a base 5X with some changes made to it. They seem to be purchasing higher end cars...6 Series and Caddy in the background. Its location looks pretty inconsistent too... It's an aftermarket front bumper from MSport. My car has the same thing, it is not OEM fit and finish. I forget the brand, but the original owner got it from a forum provider/sponsor that everyone likes. I'm not saying he should get involved in this, but note that this alone isn't the end of the world. Frosted
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| ashley97 (244hp) | Wow. See you great, I also found this https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6613/overview/
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| sassari (750hp) | Quote: Originally written by Hatem3 Wow. See you great, I found that too Https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6613/overview/ And it gets worse. The previous owner clearly didn't care that the car was fitted with the wannabe M5 front bumper that doesn't fit nearly right and then adorned it with an M5 emblem on the grill! Since this car was built in June 2010, it lacks the important combox system, so you'll be sorely lacking on the technology front if it's not upgraded. I would keep looking.
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| 181093 (453hp) | Thanks, I'll skip that
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| chef (191hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Hatem3 Thanks, I'll skip that. And it's RWD. It's snowing in New Jersey. I'm looking for xdrive.
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| molly06 (820hp) | Quote: Originally posted by vpatel867 OK, there are only a few local private dealers in New York and New Jersey that sell super cheap cars. Typically this is an accident and a rebuilt title. I bet if you pull the Carfax it will report an accident. If Carfax comes clean. I would seriously have a trustworthy shop take a look at it. Edit: Also, most of these dealers are very shady and have bad reviews. Just do a simple search on their history. Avoid it, save up and buy something more reputable. Check out the CL ad: You must have a credit score of 780+ to qualify for the ad rate. If we cannot approve you, the car is free. But seriously, buying a car with this mileage (the second one you posted has 90,000) is a big risk, especially since it comes from a dealer that doesn't specialize in BMW cars. Also, the Craigslist ad says you need a score of 780 and the price doesn't even include a 15-30% deposit. These appear to be the typical shady dealers who target people looking for a nice ride at a cheap price. With all the fees and hidden costs (plus the rate you get approved for) this 17k car will be well into the mid to high 20s
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| iloveandy (301hp) | Quote: Originally posted by thebmwjunkiee If we can't give you a permit, the car is free. But seriously, buying a car with that mileage (the second one you posted has 90,000) is a big risk, especially since it's from a dealer that doesn't specialize in BMW vehicles. Also, the Craigslist ad says you need a score of 780 and the price doesn't even include a 15-30% deposit. These appear to be the typical shady dealers who target people looking for a nice ride at a cheap price. With all the fees and hidden costs (plus the rate you get approved for) this 17k car will be well into the mid to high 20s. Yes. As SilverRevlis said, look at Honda, AUDI and other car dealers. You will experience good and bad things before you buy the car. You can browse Vin history and get the details. You pay more, but get a good car. You can always negotiate. Don't give your money to these dirty little private traders. They are looking for people and will do anything to get you a car.
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| horizon (111hp) | Has anyone purchased the carbon fiber diffusers available on eBay/Amazon? If so, the quality and fit was good??
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| jungelkanin (733hp) | Which...sides...back? and what style specifically
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