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| robert0 (411hp) | I just deleted them like in the video, it took less than a minute. I can't believe how well flossing works. I bet most BMW dealers don't know this trick
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| ES_TRADER (631hp) | I'm just curious being afraid that a 550 could be stolen sooner than a 528 (price value I guess) what would be the reason? I mean I know the models and I can tell what you drive just by looking at your exhaust pipes.?
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| Stella (891hp) | Sieben, I am with you on this topic and it has been discussed amazingly on this forum and others and after reading literally all the reasons (and without being rude) I realized that it all comes down to different strokes for different friends, stay there, lol.
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| blowme (107hp) | Quote: Posted by sieben1973 I'm just curious being afraid that a 550 could be stolen sooner than a 528 (price value I guess), what would be the reason? I mean, I know the models and can tell what you drive just by looking at your exhaust? Sieben, I can only speak for myself, I think it's just about having a clean look with nothing on the trunk. I doubt it's to hide which model everyone has, but you never know... in the end it just depends on your personal taste..
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| fkm (35hp) | Quote: Posted by sieben1973 I'm just curious being afraid that a 550 could be stolen sooner than a 528 (price value I guess), what would be the reason? I mean, I know the models and can tell what you drive just by looking at your exhaust? For my part, I debadged because I like the look much better... Clean it IMO
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| robert15 (40hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Delvek Sieben I am with you on this topic and it has been discussed incredibly on this forum and others and after reading literally all the reasons (and without being rude), I I realized that everything was in turmoil. up to different shots for different people and leave it at that, lol. Well said
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| stupidbitc (250hp) | Well I had my car factory debugged just because I saw the option when ordering and I was afraid of getting dirt around the model number which wouldn't be not good for clear coat (there was corrosion around the VW logo on my previous car). I don't think I would go so far as to argue... then again I have a 520d so my opinion is probably hypocritical by default ,-)
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| scooby6 (502hp) | Quote: Posted by Breach...then again, I have a 520d so my opinion is probably hypocritical by default. Not at all, but it's generously frank of you to say it. As others have said, it all depends on your personal taste. In my case, I removed the badge as I prefer a clean, understated look - less is more.
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| wonda (311hp) | +1 I don't like the chrome look on the back, especially on an alpine white
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| emmalou (865hp) | I will never understand the rambling..... One man's humble opinion. I appreciate others having different points of view. I noticed a lot of debadged cars in Europe last year. Less here in Canada.
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| fylh.if (788hp) | Quote: Posted by polly +1 I don't like the chrome look at the rear, especially on an AW alpine white which looks much cleaner and debadged. I actually debadged mine before leaving my dealership and heading home. I was going to think about not debadging if the badge matched the shadow line (glossy black?).
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| a12345b (20hp) | as my car is jet black, I ordered a set of 535i in gloss black from one of our suppliers, 1. using painters tape (blue tape), line them up to the edges, so your new badge doesn't get warped, 2. using Method above, stripping, but I used a heat gun (hair dryer) as it has been there for a few months, sticky stuff is usually easy to remove when it's hot. 3. Using adhesive tapes, line up your new badge, make sure it's the same size as the original one, and stick it on!! as you can barely see in the photos, they are stealthy
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| 290587 (679hp) | Hey, by the way, will wd40 help remove bird droppings? Quote: Originally posted by Jon D If the badge has been on for a while and flossing isn't working, use a hair dryer set to hot and remove it with a credit card. Any sticky residue can be removed with WD40, citrus degreaser or alcohol..
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| gigante (453hp) | Quote: Originally posted by aznevoviii the car looks tight
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| stang (602hp) | Quote: Posted by polly +1 I don't like the chrome look on the back, especially on an alpine white Agree with a/w. Gives the car a very clean look. People debadge for various reasons, mostly for a clean look, some to hide a cheaper model, however, for the US I can't imagine a self-respecting BMW owner who wouldn't know the model because the badge is missing... My next M6 will be debadged
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| bean123 (545hp) | I read the first bit of the title and was getting ready to blame you if it was a 520d. Especially if you stuck an M badge on it. Look, I have two exhausts like a 25i/d or a 30i/d and M Sport means it's a ///M5. Why did BMW ditch the single exhaust for the 20d? I liked the one big exhaust! Anyway, that's off topic - nice car - good luck with your ride! You could sell the 550i badge to a selfish 520d owner and make a nice profit while you're at it. .
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| 280277 (409hp) | Can anyone advise me on how to remove the 550 badge from the car. I would hate to scratch the paint. THANKS
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| ginger. (401hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Polly, can anyone advise me on how to remove the 550 badge from the car. I would hate to scratch the paint. thank you dental floss
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| 15251525 (904hp) | Backing your car into a guardrail should clean things up a bit!
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| 040509 (708hp) | thank you inny, I will get started immediately
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| barney13 (782hp) | If the badge has been in place for a while and flossing isn't working, use a hair dryer set to hot and remove it with a credit card. Any sticky residue can be removed with WD40, citrus degreaser or alcohol..
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| onefastdoc (247hp) | I want to remove the xdrive from my wings
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| 080584 (952hp) | I just deleted them like in the video, it took less than a minute. I can't believe how well flossing works. I bet most BMW dealers don't know this trick
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| unable (764hp) | I'm just curious being afraid that a 550 could be stolen sooner than a 528 (price value I guess) what would be the reason? I mean I know the models and I can tell what you drive just by looking at your exhaust pipes.?
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| Roxnii (365hp) | Sieben, I am with you on this topic and it has been discussed amazingly on this forum and others and after reading literally all the reasons (and without being rude) I realized that it all comes down to different strokes for different friends, stay there, lol.
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| 03041986 (324hp) | Quote: Posted by sieben1973 I'm just curious being afraid that a 550 could be stolen sooner than a 528 (price value I guess), what would be the reason? I mean, I know the models and can tell what you drive just by looking at your exhaust? Sieben, I can only speak for myself, I think it's just about having a clean look with nothing on the trunk. I doubt it's to hide which model everyone has, but you never know... in the end it just depends on your personal taste..
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| 100189 (527hp) | Quote: Posted by sieben1973 I'm just curious being afraid that a 550 could be stolen sooner than a 528 (price value I guess), what would be the reason? I mean, I know the models and can tell what you drive just by looking at your exhaust? For my part, I debadged because I like the look much better... Clean it IMO
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| drummerboy (852hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Delvek Sieben I am with you on this topic and it has been discussed incredibly on this forum and others and after reading literally all the reasons (and without being rude), I I realized that everything was in turmoil. up to different shots for different people and leave it at that, lol. Well said
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| hilda (173hp) | Well I had my car factory debugged just because I saw the option when ordering and I was afraid of getting dirt around the model number which wouldn't be not good for clear coat (there was corrosion around the VW logo on my previous car). I don't think I would go so far as to argue... then again I have a 520d so my opinion is probably hypocritical by default ,-)
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| police9 (983hp) | Quote: Posted by Breach...then again, I have a 520d so my opinion is probably hypocritical by default. Not at all, but it's generously frank of you to say it. As others have said, it all depends on your personal taste. In my case, I removed the badge as I prefer a clean, understated look - less is more.
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| montego (586hp) | +1 I don't like the chrome look on the back, especially on an alpine white
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| amberlynn (4hp) | I will never understand the rambling..... One man's humble opinion. I appreciate that others have different points of view. I noticed a lot of debadged cars in Europe last year. Less here in Canada.
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| 030985 (354hp) | Quote: Posted by polly +1 I don't like the chrome look at the rear, especially on an AW alpine white which looks much cleaner and debadged. I actually debadged mine before leaving my dealership and heading home. I was going to think about not debadging if the badge matched the shadow line (glossy black?).
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| dixiedog (37hp) | as my car is jet black I ordered a set of 535i in gloss black from one of our suppliers, 1. using painters tape (blue tape) line them up to the edges, so that your new badge is not warped, 2. using Method above, stripping, but I used a heat gun (hair dryer) as it has been there for a few months, sticky stuff is usually easy to remove When it's hot. 3. Using adhesive tapes, line up your new badge, make sure it's the same size as the original one, and stick it on!! as you can barely see in the photos, they are stealthy
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| tdws011286 (473hp) | Hey, by the way, will wd40 help remove bird droppings? Quote: Originally posted by Jon D If the badge has been on for a while and flossing isn't working, use a hair dryer set to hot and remove it with a credit card. Any sticky residue can be removed with WD40, citrus degreaser or alcohol..
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| burnish (370hp) | Quote: Originally posted by aznevoviii the car looks tight
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| nobelium (902hp) | Quote: Posted by polly +1 I don't like the chrome look on the back, especially on an alpine white Agree with a/w. Gives the car a very clean look. People debadge for various reasons, mostly for a clean look, some to hide a cheaper model, however, for the US I can't imagine a self-respecting BMW owner who wouldn't know the model because the badge is missing... My next M6 will be debadged
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| 777555 (182hp) | I read the first bit of the title and was getting ready to blame you if it was a 520d. Especially if you stuck an M badge on it. Look, I have dual exhausts like a 25i/d or a 30i/d and M Sport means it's a ///M5. Why did BMW abandon the single exhaust for the 20d? I liked the one big exhaust! Anyway, that's off topic - nice car - good luck with your ride! You could sell the 550i badge to a selfish 520d owner and make a nice profit while you're at it. .
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| fatimah (265hp) | On Monday October 10, we test a manual 520d. That's because our 330d is going for service, so we have the F10 for the day. So, coming from an E90, what should I look for/notice in the 5er? This includes pros and cons, small cons and small advantages. If we get a 5 (most likely) it will be the 2012 i4 525d with lots of toys. I'm just looking for your thoughts and opinions and, more importantly, WILL THIS PULL TO THE RIGHT?! Very excited to discover the new generation F differently...
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| hobbit1 (303hp) | In almost every way, it's a fantastic car. I've had my 535d for a year, but I've also driven the 520d and, while it may lack the punch of a 6 cylinder car, it's very impressive for 2 liters. My only reservation concerns the steering which, on the F10/11, has gone from hydraulic to electric. It's fine as long as you make positive input to the steering wheel through a series of corners and if you opt for the adaptive control/variable damper and set it to sport or sport+ it handles remarkably well for such a big car. However, it feels somewhat numb when upright and lacks feedback from the road, which can result in a tendency for the car to veer off the line if you pay more than a cursory glance at the steering wheel. satellite navigation system. In March 2011, BMW replaced the rack/motor/control assembly with the one fitted to the new F12 6 series and significantly improved the steering, but there is no escaping the very slight delay inherent in an electrical system. All my own thoughts of course, but having moved from hydraulics, I and many others on the forum are very aware of this drawback. I suggest you do as many miles as possible on all types of road surfaces and conditions, that's the only way to evaluate the car and, despite my negative comments on the steering, it's obviously not a problem so serious as I will. I will be getting the F12 640d next spring and it has virtually the same steering system.
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| 110674 (686hp) | Going from an E60 to the F10 (520D) makes quite a difference, despite reading almost all of your responses Jon about the steering wheel I'm not that worried anymore (after about a week of driving my 520D - 700km). Of course, you don't feel the steering in the corners as much as the hydraulics, but you really get used to it. Really, depending on what car you were driving before you should really check that turning the car, to me it seems a lot longer than an E60 for some reason and sometimes I see myself very close to other cars when turning, can -maybe it comes down to electric. direction after all. Another thing you might want to check out is run flat tires if they suit your taste. I also drove my brother's E82 and the flat tires on that model sometimes make you feel like there is no suspension at all on this car, not supple at all and you can feel every little imperfection on the road. My F10, on the other hand, does not pull to the right for the moment and has no problems with hesitation or jerking at the moment. Why are you considering manual transmission? I am on the side that the automatic transmission is more economical and more luxurious.
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| hartford (831hp) | Thanks for your points - the direction will be noted and I will provide feedback here afterwards. I should have clarified that we will have Sport Auto and VDC on the 525d (or maybe even the 520d), they just didn't have a car to test... I don't understand why BMW abandoned the 'hydraulic. the steering went with the electric setup (apparently worse). Most likely we'll option for the 19 331 alloys on SE - will this noticeably disrupt the ride compared to the standard 17 236 alloys or does the 5 handle it well ??
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| hunter00 (717hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SomeRandomer123 Thanks for your points - the direction will be noted and I will provide feedback here afterwards. I should have clarified that we will have Sport Auto and VDC on the 525d (or maybe even the 520d), they just didn't have a car to test... I don't understand why BMW abandoned the 'hydraulic. the steering went with the electric setup (apparently worse). It's very likely we'll option for the 19 331 alloys on the SE - will this noticeably disrupt the ride compared to the standard 17 236 alloys or does the 5 handle it well? If you get VDC, I highly recommend including the adaptive transmission as well - this changes the stiffness of the front and rear anti-roll bars, resulting in a bump-free ride on cobblestones in comfort mode, up to a practically flat height. fast turns in sport/sport+. I have 18 wheels on my 535d and they fit fine, I tried a set of 19 rims for a week and didn't notice much difference so I decided to save my money. As for why BMW ditched hydraulic steering in all but the M cars, I can only assume it's to boost their eco credentials to the extent that it translates into better mpg figures, which, in turn, reduces carbon emissions..
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| jeannie1 (265hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Jon D If you get a VDC, I highly recommend including the adaptive transmission as well - this changes the stiffness of the front and rear anti-roll bars, allowing for a bump-free ride on the pavers in comfort. mode, right down to virtually flat high speed corners in sport/sport+.... I haven't seen the latest brochure/website, but when I ordered my F10 in June, the adaptive transmission was not available only for cars with larger engines, not for 520. /525. I'm still waiting for delivery in the next few days (but at least that gives me a MY2012 car!) to feel for myself the steering differences compared to my current E60 530i. This is the one aspect of the new car I'm not looking forward to, but time and experience will tell....
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| parmarharsh (143hp) | Glad to hear about the wheels! Adaptive driving, eh? I can't find this on the UK configurator. Do you mean performance monitoring? This is the standard on the 5.
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| resistance (954hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SomeRandomer123 Glad to hear about the wheels! Adaptive driving, eh? I can't find this on the UK configurator. Do you mean performance monitoring? This is standard on the 5. Sorry for any confusion, I just checked the configurator and, as "Islandnipper" correctly says, AD is only available on larger engined cars. Are you sure you can't upgrade to a 530d? You wouldn't regret it.
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| 04041993 (400hp) | Daymiam! I'm afraid it won't be feasible, but I'll do my best when it comes to final decisions at the end of the year.
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| ass111 (27hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SomeRandomer123 Dayyum! Don't think it's feasible, I'm afraid, but I'll do my best when it comes to the final decisions at the end of the year. You originally mentioned you were looking at a 525d with lots of toys. The base price difference between a 525d and a 530d is £3645 and although that only buys you two extra cylinders, the difference between 4 and 6 is like chalk and cheese. Drive them both back to back and you'll see what I mean: the 4-cylinder engine, while quite remarkable for 2-liter, still sounds and feels a bit like a tractor at idle and lacks that extra punch just when you want it, while the 6-cylinder is silky smooth and delivers as much torque as you are capable of using while still retaining your driver's license. Over the last year and 12,000 miles with my 535d I have averaged 39 mpg total and this was compiled from a low of 35ish, but with huge levels of satisfaction that 600 provides Nm of torque, up to a very boring 47 maximum over long distances - not bad for 0-60 in under 6 seconds!
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| arnold123 (397hp) | I see what you mean - it's a joy to start the 330d each morning and give it the beans with an impressive noise as well as brutal acceleration, but we were coming from an E60 520d and it was not not that bad although the sound wasn't that bad. it doesn't turn heads for all the right reasons like the i6 does... Oh, and 45mpg!! A 530d could be done in one go, but that would mean no toys. I will also give my opinion on the i4 on Monday!
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| 12play (496hp) | BMW just rang and told us we had a choice of an F10 520d 6mt or an F11 520d 8spd Step, so we opted for the F11. So I will come back on Monday. I can't wait to be there!
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| 040285 (502hp) | Quote: Posted by SomeRandomer123 BMW just rang and told us we had a choice of an F10 520d 6mt or an F11 520d 8spd Step, so we opted for the F11. So I will come back on Monday. I can't wait to be there! Good choice, the automatic gearbox is sublime and it offers you the added bonus of maintaining preset speeds in the cruise control, whatever the gear changes and without having to select restart. A very minor point for many I can well imagine, but I find it a blessing in built up areas as I don't have to worry about breaking speed limits and losing my license..
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| pocholo (804hp) | I'm in love!!! WHAT A CAR!!! I just returned the F11 and am very impressed. Like: Luxurious interior - absolutely stunning right down to the door pockets - I love that the ride is sublime. It had VDC and in the Normal setting it drove like a limousine and still cornered like a BMW! Sport and Sport are excellent and even the 520d had a tendency to oversteer with DSC off. It looks great - it was the SE in a dark blue and it just looked the part. The 8 speed step is great! A seemingly smooth move and always ready to go! On the highway, the car is extremely quiet, refined and comfortable. The comfort seats are really comfortable. The engine - in a word, good. Despite sounding agricultural at idle, it sounds good on the move (although not a patch on the i6) and has surprising power. I'm not going to pretend it's fast, but it doesn't drag... If you look at all the cars around you (UK) on the motorway, you could burn over 90% of the cars if you wanted to . coming from a 30d it still made me smile even though the MPG was 35 as opposed to the easily achievable 45mpg the 330d offers, but it only had 2.5k miles on the odometer so I didn't I won't read too much into it. The steering is good - although there isn't as much feedback as the E90, it's still brilliant and I feel like these electric steering horror stories are blown out of proportion. So yes, I love the car! I think it will be the next one in 6 months, even if the F10 with the 25d under the hood. What I don't like: Expensive optional extras. Um... Oyster leather - shows mud. Hmm... Obviously, we're far from the sportiness of the E90 but I wasn't expecting that and it's still great! Pfft.... No, I'm going out!! Oh wait, this is MASSIVE! Getting the F11 to the gas station wasn't easy and it was stuck behind someone where the 330d could have passed but I'm a bit nitpicking - that was their crappy driving... Oh yeah, I added that I loved it?
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| 151184 (558hp) | Throttle lag and jerky transmission are a big problem to look for when test driving the F 8-speed auto.10.
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| 30111981 (937hp) | None of this happened.
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| kris12 (742hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DuneMan Throttle lag and jerky transmission are a big problem to look for when test driving the F10 8-speed automatic. Not in my case - 535d/sport auto.
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| amazon1 (255hp) | Quote: Posted by Jon D Not in my case - 535d/sport auto. That's right... not all F10s have it. But it's a big deal for many 8-speed F10s and one should definitely look for it on their test drive..
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| 311088 (263hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SomeRandomer123 None of these events happened. Good....but I noticed you didn't test the F10 8 speed...only the F11 8 speed. If you're considering getting an AT F10, I suggest you give it a try...and not just assume it will act like the F11. Good luck!
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| sammy77 (870hp) | I highly doubt the mechanics were changed from the F10 to the F11 - just the rear bodywork. Software version 43 will surely eliminate this anyway...
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| labirint (211hp) | On Monday October 10, we test a 520d manual. That's because our 330d is going in for service, so we have the F10 for the day. So, coming from an E90, what should I look for/notice in the 5er? This includes pros and cons, small cons and small advantages. If we get a 5 (most likely) it will be the 2012 i4 525d with lots of toys. I'm just looking for your thoughts and opinions and, more importantly, WILL THIS PULL TO THE RIGHT?! Very excited to discover the new generation F differently...
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| azteca13 (234hp) | In almost every way, it's a fantastic car. I've had my 535d for a year, but I've also driven the 520d and, while it may lack the punch of a 6-cylinder car, it's very impressive for 2 liters. My only reservation concerns the steering which, on the F10/11, has gone from hydraulic to electric. It's fine as long as you make positive input to the steering wheel through a series of corners and if you opt for the adaptive control/variable damper and set it to sport or sport+ it handles remarkably well for such a big car. However, it feels somewhat numb when upright and lacks feedback from the road, which can result in a tendency for the car to veer off the line if you pay more than a cursory glance at the steering wheel. satellite navigation system. In March 2011, BMW replaced the rack/motor/control assembly with the one fitted to the new F12 6 series and significantly improved the steering, but there is no escaping the very slight delay inherent in an electrical system. All my own thoughts of course, but having moved from hydraulics, I and many others on the forum are very aware of this drawback. I suggest you do as many miles as possible on all types of road surfaces and conditions, that's the only way to evaluate the car and, despite my negative comments on the steering, it's obviously not a problem so serious as I will do it. I will be getting the F12 640d next spring and it has almost the same steering system.
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| placement (76hp) | Going from an E60 to the F10 (520D) makes quite a difference, despite reading almost all of your responses Jon about the steering wheel I'm not that worried anymore (after about a week of driving my 520D - 700km). Of course, you don't feel the steering in the corners as much as the hydraulics, but you really get used to it. Really, depending on what car you were driving before you should really check that turning the car, to me it seems a lot longer than an E60 for some reason and sometimes I see myself very close to other cars when turning, can -maybe it comes down to electric. direction after all. Another thing you might want to check out is run flat tires if they suit your taste. I also drove my brother's E82 and the flat tires on that model sometimes make you feel like there is no suspension at all on that car, not supple at all and you can feel every little imperfection on the road. My F10, on the other hand, does not pull to the right for the moment and has no problems with hesitation or jerking at the moment. Why are you considering manual transmission? I am on the side that the automatic transmission is more economical and more luxurious.
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| richelle (614hp) | Thanks for your points - the direction will be noted and I will provide feedback here afterwards. I should have clarified that we will have Sport Auto and VDC on the 525d (or maybe even the 520d), they just didn't have a car to test... I don't understand why BMW abandoned the 'hydraulic. the steering went with the electric setup (apparently worse). It's very likely we'll opt for 19,331 alloys on the SE; will this noticeably disrupt the ride compared to the standard 17 236 alloys or does the 5 handle it well ??
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| psicologa (78hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SomeRandomer123 Thanks for your points - the direction will be noted and I will provide feedback here afterwards. I should have clarified that we will have Sport Auto and VDC on the 525d (or maybe even the 520d), they just didn't have a car to test... I don't understand why BMW abandoned the 'hydraulic. the steering went with the electric setup (apparently worse). It's very likely we'll option for the 19 331 alloys on the SE - will this noticeably disrupt the ride compared to the standard 17 236 alloys or does the 5 handle it well? If you get VDC, I highly recommend including the adaptive transmission as well - this changes the stiffness of the front and rear anti-roll bars, resulting in a bump-free ride on cobblestones in comfort mode, up to a practically flat height. fast turns in sport/sport+. I have 18 wheels on my 535d and they fit fine, I tried a set of 19 rims for a week and didn't notice much difference so I decided to save my money. As for why BMW ditched hydraulic steering in all but the M cars, I can only assume it's to boost their eco credentials to the extent that it translates into better mpg figures, which, in turn, reduces carbon emissions..
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| bruno01 (861hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Jon D If you get a VDC, I highly recommend including the adaptive transmission as well - this changes the stiffness of the front and rear anti-roll bars, allowing for a bump-free ride on the pavers in comfort. mode, right down to virtually flat high speed corners in sport/sport+.... I haven't seen the latest brochure/website, but when I ordered my F10 in June, the adaptive transmission was not available only for cars with larger engines, not for 520. /525. I'm still waiting for delivery in the next few days (but at least that gives me a MY2012 car!) to feel for myself the steering differences compared to my current E60 530i. This is the one aspect of the new car I'm not looking forward to, but time and experience will tell....
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| 04031990 (441hp) | Glad to hear about the wheels! Adaptive driving, huh? I can't find this on the UK configurator. Do you mean performance monitoring? This is the standard on the 5.
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| moncheri (289hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SomeRandomer123 Glad to hear about the wheels! Adaptive driving, huh? I can't find this on the UK configurator. Do you mean performance monitoring? This is standard on the 5. Sorry for any confusion, I just checked the configurator and, as "Islandnipper" correctly says, AD is only available on larger engined cars. Are you sure you can't upgrade to a 530d? You wouldn't regret it.
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| chapin (475hp) | Daymiam! I'm afraid it won't be feasible, but I'll do my best when it comes to final decisions at the end of the year.
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| 19031996 (701hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SomeRandomer123 Dayyum! Don't think it's feasible, I'm afraid, but I'll do my best when it comes to the final decisions at the end of the year. You originally mentioned you were looking at a 525d with lots of toys. The base price difference between a 525d and a 530d is £3645 and although that only buys you two extra cylinders, the difference between 4 and 6 is like chalk and cheese. Drive them both back to back and you'll see what I mean: the 4-cylinder engine, while quite remarkable for 2-liter, still sounds and feels a bit like a tractor at idle and lacks that extra punch just when you want it, while the 6-cylinder is silky smooth and delivers as much torque as you are capable of using while still retaining your driver's license. Over the last year and 12,000 miles with my 535d I have averaged 39 mpg total and this was compiled from a low of 35ish, but with huge levels of satisfaction that 600 provides Nm of torque, up to a very boring 47 maximum over long distances - not bad for 0-60 in under 6 seconds!
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| discovery1 (446hp) | I see what you mean - it's a joy to start the 330d each morning and give it the beans with an impressive noise as well as brutal acceleration, but we were coming from an E60 520d and it was not not that bad although the sound wasn't that bad. it doesn't turn heads for all the right reasons like the i6 does... Oh, and 45mpg!! A 530d could be done in one go, but that would mean no toys. I will also give my opinion on the i4 on Monday!
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| dragon07 (505hp) | BMW just rang and told us we had a choice of an F10 520d 6mt or an F11 520d 8spd Step, so we opted for the F11. So I will come back on Monday. I can't wait to be there!
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| vyjujnjxbt (203hp) | Quote: Posted by SomeRandomer123 BMW just rang and told us we had a choice of an F10 520d 6mt or an F11 520d 8spd Step, so we opted for the F11. So I will come back on Monday. I can't wait to be there! Good choice, the automatic gearbox is sublime and it offers you the added bonus of maintaining preset speeds in the cruise control, whatever the gear changes and without having to select restart. A very minor point for many I can well imagine, but I find it a blessing in built up areas as I don't have to worry about breaking speed limits and losing my license..
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| sarah101 (215hp) | I'm in love!!! WHAT A CAR!!! I just returned the F11 and am very impressed. Like: Luxurious interior - absolutely stunning right down to the door pockets - I love that the ride is sublime. It had VDC and in the Normal setting it drove like a limousine and still cornered like a BMW! Sport and Sport are excellent and even the 520d had a tendency to oversteer with DSC off. It looks great - it was the SE in a dark blue and it just looked the part. The 8 speed step is great! A seemingly smooth move and always ready to go! On the highway, the car is extremely quiet, refined and comfortable. The comfort seats are really comfortable. The engine - in a word, good. Despite sounding agricultural at idle, it sounds good on the move (although not a patch on the i6) and has surprising power. I'm not going to pretend it's fast, but it doesn't drag... If you look at all the cars around you (UK) on the motorway, you could burn over 90% of the cars if you wanted to . coming from a 30d it still made me smile even though the MPG was 35 as opposed to the easily achievable 45mpg the 330d offers, but it only had 2.5k miles on the odometer so I didn't I won't read too much into it. The steering is good - although there isn't as much feedback as in the E90, it's still brilliant and I feel like these electric steering horror stories are blown out of proportion. So yes, I love the car! I think it will be the next one in 6 months, even if the F10 with the 25d under the hood. What I don't like: Expensive optional extras. Um... Oyster leather - shows mud. Hmm... Obviously, we're far from the sportiness of the E90 but I wasn't expecting that and it's still great! Pfft.... No, I'm going out!! Oh wait, this is MASSIVE! Getting the F11 to the gas station wasn't easy and it was stuck behind someone where the 330d could have passed but I'm a bit nitpicking - that was their crappy driving... Oh yeah, I added that I loved it?
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| pancha (945hp) | Throttle lag and jerky transmission are a big problem to look for when test driving the F 8-speed auto.10.
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| honda8 (319hp) | None of this happened.
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| 230675 (415hp) | Quote: Originally posted by DuneMan Throttle lag and jerky transmission are a big problem to look for when test driving the F10 8-speed automatic. Not in my case - 535d/sport auto.
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| jmorgan911 (29hp) | Quote: Posted by Jon D Not in my case - 535d/sport auto. That's right... not all F10s have it. But it's a big deal for many 8-speed F10s and one should definitely look for it on their test drive..
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| lovemenow (333hp) | Quote: Originally posted by SomeRandomer123 None of these events happened. Good....but I noticed you didn't test the F10 8 speed...only the F11 8 speed. If you're considering getting an AT F10, I suggest you give it a try...and not just assume it will act like the F11. Good luck!
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| camacho1 (325hp) | I highly doubt the mechanics were changed from the F10 to the F11 - just the rear bodywork. Software version 43 will surely eliminate this anyway...
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| 010491 (123hp) | hi, How can I turn off the tail light when using daylight. THANKS
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| loko12 (224hp) | Not sure, but try turning off the daytime running lights in iDrive.
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| qwert2 (342hp) | Not possible AFAIK. The taillights are configured to illuminate when the DRL is used.
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| Chad20 (969hp) | Quote: Originally posted by mrcamp Not possible AFAIK. The taillights are configured to illuminate when the DRL is used. Hence my suggestion to turn off the DRLs. OFF as in DRLs are NOT used.
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| oliver00 (139hp) | Only with xenon headlights does the front angel light come on and the rear lights are off when the DRL is selected. This matches what the dealer told me, which is why I went with the Xenon option..
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| squeaker (559hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Martin Mustang Only with the xenon light you turn on the front angel light with the tail lights off when the DRL is selected, depends on what the dealer told me, that's it is why I opted for the Xenon option. This could be an EU matter.
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| mohambus (252hp) | Quote: Originally posted by remmib This could be an EU thing. software updated Tuesday but dealer says it's not possible
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| TF_F10-520d (84hp) | Out of curiosity, why do you want them turned off? ??
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| toby11 (966hp) | Quote: Posted by Jon D Out of curiosity, why do you want them turned off? When you have the angel eye on in daylight, I would like to turn off the tail light so it doesn't appear that I'm turning on the headlights.
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| 24061991 (584hp) | hi, How can I turn off the tail light when using daylight. THANKS
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| 021088 (814hp) | Not sure, but try turning off the daytime running lights in iDrive.
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| helives (762hp) | Not possible AFAIK. The taillights are configured to illuminate when the DRL is used.
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| 20304050 (785hp) | Quote: Originally posted by mrcamp Not possible AFAIK. The taillights are configured to illuminate when the DRL is used. Hence my suggestion to turn off the DRLs. OFF as in DRLs are NOT used.
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| smoke (628hp) | Only with xenon headlights do you have the front headlight on and the rear lights off when the DRL is selected. This matches what the dealer told me, which is why I went with the Xenon option..
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| 5151 (47hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Martin Mustang Only with the xenon light you turn on the front angel light with the tail lights off when the DRL is selected, depends on what the dealer told me, that's it is why I opted for the Xenon option. This could be an EU matter.
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| 123456ff (151hp) | Quote: Originally posted by remmib This could be an EU thing. software updated Tuesday but dealer says it's not possible
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| jackhammer (266hp) | Out of curiosity, why do you want them turned off? ??
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| edurden (904hp) | Quote: Posted by Jon D Out of curiosity, why do you want them turned off? When you have the angel eye on in daylight, I would like to turn off the tail light so it doesn't appear that I'm turning on the headlights.
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| caraculo (181hp) | hey people! Do all 520d 8 speed automatics have the sport and normal buttons as standard? I tested it and read some reviews afterward. I noticed these buttons in the video reviews, but I didn't notice them when I test drove the car....
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| ilovejess1 (956hp) | If there are sport and normal buttons, there is 8 speed sports car..
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| franzi (600hp) | Exactly. With the standard 8-speed automatic transmission, you don't have this button. If you choose the "sport" automatic transmission, you have this button which allows you to change the steering, throttle response and gear changes, as well as paddles behind the steering wheel. In Belgium this option costs only 150,-, so don't hesitate and opt for this option.
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| stevenash (147hp) | thanks for the answers guys. I've heard it's a must for the 5 series if you want it to handle well or have the right sensations when driving the car quickly on winding roads. hehe BMWMB, they should just add it as standard in Belgium! It would be stupid to buy such an expensive car and not add such a feature when it only costs 150 euros..
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| Gateway1 (193hp) | The Sport/Comfort button is now standard on all 5 Series I think (at least it is in the UK), whether or not they have a manual/auto/sport auto. It's now called Drive Performance Control and on my manual 520d there are three modes: Eco Pro, Comfort and Sport. Throttle response becomes noticeably sharper in Sport mode, but I can't tell much difference with the steering. Maybe I have to drive fast in some corners...
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| 31121992 (391hp) | You'll need to spec VDC on the 520d or Adaptive Drive on larger engine models to get better handling. Without these options, the Dynamic Drive Control button puts the transmission into sport mode so that revs are held longer in each gear and only the first 7 gears are used. The steering is slightly heavier, which gives a little more feedback. I have to say my 530d F11 is generally quick, but put it in sport mode, floor it and the car becomes a very different and faster beast. (Up to legal speed limits of course.) Quote: Originally posted by exo-ak-dk thanks for the replies guys. I've heard it's a must for the 5 series if you want it to handle well or have the right sensations when driving the car quickly on winding roads. hehe BMWMB, they should just add it as standard in Belgium! It would be stupid to buy such an expensive car and not add such a feature when it only costs 150 euros..
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| stirling (533hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Albert R The Sport/Comfort button is now standard on all 5 Series I think (at least in the UK), whether or not it's equipped with manual/auto/sport auto. It's now called Drive Performance Control and on my manual 520d there are three modes: Eco Pro, Comfort and Sport. Throttle response becomes noticeably sharper in Sport mode, but I can't tell much difference with the steering. Maybe I have to drive fast in some corners... Remember that there are two different buttons, sport/normal if you only have the sports car, and sport/comfort if you have VDC or Adaptive Drive..
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| ruby13 (184hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Albert R The Sport/Comfort button is now standard on all 5 Series I think (at least in the UK), whether or not it's equipped with manual/auto/sport auto. It's now called Drive Performance Control and on my manual 520d there are three modes: Eco Pro, Comfort and Sport. Throttle response becomes noticeably sharper in Sport mode, but I can't tell much difference with the steering. Maybe I have to go fast in some corners... OK, but this button doesn't do anything with the suspension.
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| 777555666 (504hp) | Quote: Originally posted by exo-ak-dk thanks for the replies guys. I've heard it's a must for the 5 series if you want it to handle well or have the right sensations when driving the car quickly on winding roads. hehe BMWMB, they should just add it as standard in Belgium! It would be stupid to buy such an expensive car and not add such a feature when it only costs 150 euros. As I already mentioned in my last post, this button does nothing with the suspension. You need to order an “Adaptive Drive” to also have “Dynamic Damping Control”. Then you have everything, but this option costs much more than Ђ150,-.
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| 280394 (616hp) | Quote: Originally posted by remmib Remember there are two different buttons, sport/normal if you only have auto sport, and sport/comfort if you have VDC or Adaptive Drive. This is not strictly the case for the 2012 models. My manual 520d has sport/comfort mode (+ Eco Pro) and does not have VDC or Adaptive Drive. As for whether 2012 sports cars without VDC/AD will now have sport/comfort instead of sport/normal, I don't know. I'll tell you tomorrow. Quote: Originally posted by BMWMB OK, but this button doesn't do anything with the suspension. Yes, I'm aware of that, that's why I only mentioned the steering and throttle..
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| orange08 (921hp) | Quote: Originally published by Albert R This is not strictly the case for 2012 models. My 520d manual has sport/comfort mode (+Eco Pro) and does not have VDC or Adaptive Drive. As for whether 2012 sports cars without VDC/AD will now have sport/comfort instead of sport/normal, I don't know. I'll tell you tomorrow. Looking at the configurator and the 2012 price list, it seems you are right. All F10s except the 550i get Driving Experience Control.
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| lietuva (730hp) | hey people! Do all 520d 8 speed automatics have the sport and normal buttons as standard? I tested it and read some reviews afterward. I noticed these buttons in the video reviews, but I didn't notice them when I test drove the car....
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| alan11 (223hp) | If there are sport and normal buttons, there is 8 speed sports car..
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| hghghg (631hp) | Exactly. With the standard 8-speed automatic transmission, you don't have this button. If you choose the "sport" automatic transmission, you have this button which allows you to change the steering, throttle response and gear changes, as well as paddles behind the steering wheel. In Belgium this option costs only 150,-, so don't hesitate and opt for this option.
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| poop33 (590hp) | thanks for the answers guys. I've heard it's a must for the 5 series if you want it to handle well or have the right sensations when driving the car quickly on winding roads. hehe BMWMB, they should just add it as standard in Belgium! It would be stupid to buy such an expensive car and not add such a feature when it only costs 150 euros..
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| camping1 (628hp) | The Sport/Comfort button is now standard on all 5 Series I think (at least it is in the UK), whether or not they have a manual/auto/sport auto. It's now called Drive Performance Control and on my manual 520d there are three modes: Eco Pro, Comfort and Sport. Throttle response becomes noticeably sharper in Sport mode, but I can't tell much difference with the steering. Maybe I have to drive fast in some corners...
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| BimmerMark2014 (66hp) | You'll need to spec VDC on the 520d or Adaptive Drive on larger engine models to get better handling. Without these options, the Dynamic Drive Control button puts the transmission into sport mode so that revs are held longer in each gear and only the first 7 gears are used. The steering is slightly heavier, which gives a little more feedback. I have to say my 530d F11 is generally quick, but put it in sport mode, floor it and the car becomes a very different and faster beast. (Up to legal speed limits of course.) Quote: Originally posted by exo-ak-dk thanks for the replies guys. I've heard it's a must for the 5 series if you want it to handle well or have the right sensations when driving the car quickly on winding roads. hehe BMWMB, they should just add it as standard in Belgium! It would be stupid to buy such an expensive car and not add such a feature when it only costs 150 euros..
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| 198102 (249hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Albert R The Sport/Comfort button is now standard on all 5 Series I think (at least in the UK), whether or not it's equipped with manual/auto/sport auto. It's now called Drive Performance Control and on my manual 520d there are three modes: Eco Pro, Comfort and Sport. Throttle response becomes noticeably sharper in Sport mode, but I can't tell much difference with the steering. Maybe I have to drive fast in some corners... Remember that there are two different buttons, sport/normal if you only have the sports car, and sport/comfort if you have VDC or Adaptive Drive..
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| benhays98 (13hp) | Quote: Originally posted by Albert R The Sport/Comfort button is now standard on all 5 Series I think (at least in the UK), whether or not it's equipped with manual/auto/sport auto. It's now called Drive Performance Control and on my manual 520d there are three modes: Eco Pro, Comfort and Sport. Throttle response becomes noticeably sharper in Sport mode, but I can't tell much difference with the steering. Maybe I have to go fast in some corners... OK, but this button doesn't do anything with the suspension.
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| cdtnkzxjr (912hp) | Quote: Originally posted by exo-ak-dk thanks for the replies guys. I've heard it's a must for the 5 series if you want it to handle well or have the right sensations when driving the car quickly on winding roads. hehe BMWMB, they should just add it as standard in Belgium! It would be stupid to buy such an expensive car and not add such a feature when it only costs 150 euros. As I already mentioned in my last post, this button does nothing with the suspension. You need to order an “Adaptive Drive” to also have “Dynamic Damping Control”. Then you have everything, but this option costs much more than Ђ150,-.
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| floortje (292hp) | Quote: Originally posted by remmib Remember there are two different buttons, sport/normal if you only have auto sport, and sport/comfort if you have VDC or Adaptive Drive. This is not strictly the case for the 2012 models. My manual 520d has sport/comfort mode (+ Eco Pro) and does not have VDC or Adaptive Drive. As for whether 2012 sports cars without VDC/AD will now have sport/comfort instead of sport/normal, I don't know. I'll tell you tomorrow. Quote: Originally posted by BMWMB OK, but this button doesn't do anything with the suspension. Yes, I'm aware of that, that's why I only mentioned the steering and throttle..
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| fairfax (579hp) | Quote: Originally published by Albert R This is not strictly the case for 2012 models. My 520d manual has sport/comfort mode (+Eco Pro) and does not have VDC or Adaptive Drive. As for whether 2012 sports cars without VDC/AD will now have sport/comfort instead of sport/normal, I don't know. I'll tell you tomorrow. Looking at the configurator and the 2012 price list, it seems you are right. All F10s except the 550i get Driving Experience Control.
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| 14131413 (338hp) | Hello everyone! New to the forum, but not new to BMW. My current Bimmer is an E70 X5 and I decided to change it up a bit. I can't wait to be part of the F10 family! Build: 2012 535xi M-Sport Black Carbon, Black Dakota Leather, Dark Wood Trim, Technology, Cold Weather, Premium Package and Premium Sound. See you soon on the forums. Cheers! X5er_Driver
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| 240191 (614hp) | Congratulations, you will love it
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